What does it take to be a rapper?

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drunk_nazgul
Do you have to get shot a certain number of times?
Do you have to serve time?
Do you have to not give a care?

I just wanna know.

burlyman
you need a spade, YOU DIG?

HockeyHorror
man...i just look for intellectuality in a rapper.

drunk_nazgul
LMAO!
You'll need a lot of 'em.

HockeyHorror
there are alot^

trust me

just not on the tv

JKozzy
A very bad, bad taste in music.

HockeyHorror
please dont disrespect underground hip hop...or if u weren't my apologizes.

JKozzy
I didn't directly mean that, sorry I just don't like those styles of music erm
You're free to like it, I'm not someone that's going to go around and scream that rap sucks and anyone liking it should go sit in a corner, because that's theyre choice smile

drunk_nazgul
I don't listen to rap. Only if it says something I can understand. How can you hear what they're saying if they're going 90 mph?
And a drive-by shooting, and rape, and gangsta fights, and robbery...

You're right, HH, the good ones aren't on the news.

leatherface12
Things you need to be a rapper.

1 dew rag
2 a bunch of skanks to dance around
3 sagging cloths
4 a beat

And the most important thing to be a rapper is * drumroll * NO TALENT.

drunk_nazgul
That was mean.
eminem has some talent, even though I don't think many ppl like him.

And your sig creeps me out, L Face.

JKozzy
Your sig and avatar are gross What the f**k? I may report its vulgarness to Raz... sick

§pearhead
Yes...LF should defeinitely get rid of it.

leatherface12
Im not a racist or anything. But I just dont like rap. All you do is make a beat and make up rhymes. Rock takes real talent to play the instrumets. But yes eminem is the only rapper I like cause he says what he has to say and dosnt rap about sex or hos or rides ect.....

leatherface12
Sorry about the first post I made but I was just mad at that giiiiiant dude at the time.

OBloommyday
certain hip hop is poetic. Mostly girl rappers have better lyrics. I dont like that ganster rap or that mainstream rap.

JKozzy
You've been here for all of a *week*, how mad could you get at someone on a forum you haven't been at for long? Unless you don't have something... whistle

HockeyHorror
i second^

underground hip hop is underratted and underestimated.

HockeyHorror
you guyz should listen to Ras Kass then judge if hip hop sucks or not (well true hip hop)

drunk_nazgul
Um, leatherface's sig and av remind me of my friend's bf.
He also creeps me out.
Is it just me. or does all hip hop have to do with sex and drugs? I've never heard any that doesn't.
I'm sure HH is the one to answer that one.

HockeyHorror
yes i can answer...but im soo tired cuz of all argueings with SHIIIIT or BIIING i dont know wtf to call him/her LOL

if u guyz want ill post lyrics of artists that dont rap about those things...later on smile big grin

OBloommyday
Happy Dance i will be waiting hockey horror!

HockeyHorror

drunk_nazgul
So will I!

HockeyHorror
here's another song by Immortal Technique and his Crew. song title is Peruvian Cocaine...its about the Drug Industry and conspiracies...ill post more later


Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support
your government receives from the drug industry.

Guest: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that
this money, which is in the billions, is coming from
your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of
our national product, which is of course cocaine.

Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States
government is spending millions of dollars to
eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the
same time, we are doing business with the very same
goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine.

Guest: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other
characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.



*Two Men Speak in Spanish*


I'm on the border of Bolivia, working for pennies
Treated like a slave, the coke fields have to be ready
The spirit of my people is starving, broken and sweaty
Dreaming about revolution (REVOLUTION!) looking at my machete
But the workload is too heavy to rise up in arms
And if I ran away, I know they'd probably murder my moms
So I pray to "Heso Preisto" when I go to the mission
Process the cocaine, paced and play my position


Ok, listen while I'm out there, just give me my product
Before we chop off ya hands for worker's misconduct
I got the power to shoot a copper, and not get charged
And it would be sad to see your family in front of a firing squad
So to feed your kids, I need these bricks
40 tons in total, let me test it, indeed I (*sniff*)
Shit, this is good, pass me a tissue
And don't worry about them, I paid off the officials


Yo, it don't come as a challenge, I'm the son of some of the foulest
Elected by my people...the only one on the ballot
Born and bred to consult with feds, I laugh at fate
And assassinate my predecessor to have his place
In a third-world fashion state, lock the nation
With 90% of the wealth in 10% of the population
The Central Intelligence Agency takes weight faithfully
The finest type of China white and cocaine you'll see


Honey I'm home, nevermind why our bank account's suddenly grown
It's funny, we're so out of this debt from this money we owe
Woulda ya...mind if I told you I had two governments overthrown
To keep our son enrolled in a private school, and to keep ya tummy swollen
C'mon, our ****in' home was built on the foundation of bloody throats
The hungry stolen of they souls, of course this country's runnin' coke
I took a stunted oath to hush the one's who know
But CIA conducts the flow of these young hustlers who lust for dough


I don't work in the hood (Hit my connect)
Plus what's really good, they supply for the hood
These dudes ****ing crack me up, scrutinize like we inferior
Petrified when we meet in my area (calm down)
My dude's'll shoot until I say so, got the loot?
Give me the YAY YAY like Ice Cube, so don't play with my llello
We won't stop for you bastards
Must choose (?), chop it and bag it


Taking pictures and tapping phones
Debating snitches and cracking codes
Past a couple, blast the fo',
Want any hustler stacking dough with probably crack the blow
And my overtime is where your taxes go
I gain your trust
Get you to hand weight to us because we paid up front
On the low with cameras taping ya
Getting pop away? The prison sentence is going to
Make the officer leave with two ki's out the evidence room


Out the evidence room (*Said with Loucipher*)
Went my fame, truck, boat or plane, they watching you
You think you got work? They copping too
We control blocks, they lock countries
Ya own companies, we had nice cars and sneaker money
Now there's players out there, talking 'bout the holding
With bugs in they house like they down South with windows open
Your dough ain't long, you wrong, you take shorts and (?)
Feds will be up in your mouth...like forks and spoons
So enjoy the rush, live plush off Coke bread
Soon you'll be in a cell with me, like Jenny Lopez
In school, I was a bully, now life is fully a joke
I keep a flow on a boat for Peruvian Coke
Players do favors for governers and tax makers
Fat Quakers smoke crack and sex acts with bad mayors
The walls got ears, you big mouths probably scared
Not prepared to do years like Javier


The story just told is an example of the path that
drugs take on their way to every neighborhood, in
every state of this country. It's a lot deeper than
the niggas on your block. So when they point the
finger at you, brother men, this is what you've got to tell them:


I'm not guilty. YOU'RE the one that's guilty. The
lawmakers, the politicians, the Columbian drug lords,
all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just
like you did with alcohol during the prohibition.
You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick
the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem.
Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing
is bigger

Barf Heaven
1. You have to be black (or white but think you're black, that works too)
2. A tough-sounding name
3. The ability to speak very fast, even if every word out of your mouth is utterly incomprehensible and entirely nonsensical

And yes, it helps if you have been shot at least once.

And OH YEAH YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK LIKE A MORON WHEN NECESSARY, YA DIG??!!

I hate rap, except for some of the non-mainstream stuff like Hock listens to

HockeyHorror
100 percent agree^

HockeyHorror
ok guyz i posted lyrics and still no comments...i did what you wanted me to!

so answer!!!

VilleValo462
they some pretty deep lyrics man ..

Barf Heaven
^I agree with...(stinky?)

VilleValo462
yes
i am stinky .!

HockeyHorror
lol

HockeyHorror
well the last 2 lyrics were by Immortal Technique and he's a very deep rapper etc etc

now this guy right here...he is just PISSED. his name is Vinnie Paz. Smart guy but he is always angry. in all his songs he's sooo pissed. lol
his rhymes are ok but he's always ANGRY!

laughing out loud

Blood In Blood Out- Vinnie Paz (my mom actually likes this song cuz the background music was taken from an old Russian song)

Intro : Man Speaking]
If one does what God does enough times, he becomes as God is
If you put it together, you get what you wanted
what you desired, if you do it enough times
He believes, you become one who is desired, and wanted, and accepted
Because God has Power
And if one does what God does enough times, one will become as God is


Yeah.. Jedi Mind Baby..
Yeah.

Yeah we bringin you the hardcore, the real raw type shit
You ain't never seen nothing before like this
Its all real, all ill, and all natural
We all kill, all still, an blast at you
I like blood, I like tasting ya flesh
I like slugs, I like David Keresh
I like anything thats related to death
I like any king that can reign with his fist
Now back to the topic at hand
Steadily Shine, Shine Steadily with my fam
Im the one who put the nail in the cross
I'm the one who told the world about an alien corpse
I'm the one who brought the truth to the light
If you listening to me you couldn't lose in a fight
Abusing the mic, with the force of five lions
Anybody ****in with Paz can die trying


*Mixed Sound Clips*


I'm a caged lion, always dying to hurt you
Always a believer that my rhymings a virtue
You just a heathen, and you lie like the church do
I can't believe that Allah is a curse to
You too commercial, you still a disgrace
You like to sit around with women watching Will & Grace
I can't over-stand your sweetness
You should try hire a therapist to beat this
Im being facetious, you should heat this
Im the one who hammered the first nail in Jesus
Im the definition of Toxic
Anyone who ever got close to me got sick


*Mixed Sound Clips*

We like heavy metal, listening to Sepultura
Remain calm, study as long, and read Torahs
You can't fallow the paths of Mans Hill
You can't study the math and can't ill
You can't over-stand what I believe
You drown in an ocean of God and can't breath
It's like I've been involved with beef
Since the days of (??)
I learn how to worship Allah
I learn how to rhyme, and I teach it to yall
Im speakin to yall
Its hardcore, real rap
Real Slugs, Real Clips and Real Gats
You real wack, and thats how I feel
And thats the reason that I got a reason to kill

Yeah.. fallow me daddy
Jedi Mind
What's the ****in deal


*Mixed Sound Clips*

VilleValo462
blink
coolness..

HockeyHorror
lol

any more comments...

HockeyHorror
this is a very nice song by Aesop Rock. Its called Daylight. Its complex lyrics and has a deep meaning.


Yo...put one up shackle me, not clean logic procreation
I did not invent the wheel I was the crooked spoke adjacent
While the triple sixers lassos keep angels roped in the basement
I walk the block with a halo and a stick poking your patience
Ya'll catch a 30 second flash visual
Dirty cooperative Neptune blue head hurt splits
Ridiculous fathom the splicing of first generation
f**k up or trickle down anti hero smack (Cracking!)
I paste the game to zero all completion green (Splash!)
Took an early retirement pick a dream
American nightmare hogging the screen
I'll hold the door open so you can stumble in
and you would stop following me around the jungle gym
Now it's an honor and I spell it with the 'H' I stole from heritage
Marry crutch stolen wretched refuge refuse my teaming resonance
I promise temperance storm breed with a leaning conscious
In a credence relax responsive with my sports outsource the wattage
And I'm sleeping now (Wow!) And the settlers laugh
You won't be laughing when your covered wagons crash
You won't be laughing when the buses drag your brother's flags into rags
You won't be laughing when your front lawn is spangled with epitaphs
You won't be laughing
And I hang my boots to rest when I'm impressed
So I triple knot them then I forgot them
This origami dream is beautiful
but man those wings will never leave the ground
Without a feather and a lottery ticket, now settle down

All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.

Slacker bounded imitated tabloid headlined with the post
Shimmy cross the centerfold, and a dead time in ghosts

Giving crumbs for the better souls with seven deadly sins
To hear the plane to crystal conscious
To results a low life counting on one hand what he's accomplished
Ok, lift me to activism chain activate street sweep
Plug in deteriorating zenith pen dragging
I hack swords wars for the morbid spreading of mad men
Now he's got soul
Sitting there licking log cabin in Charlie Chaplin waddle
I could zig zag and zig 'em again for the bad dreams
Sparking my brick wall windows another thicket storm
And if one night in Gotham without the wretched
Houston we have a problem
Dispatch a task of infested patch of city goblins
Who split how many freaks with box cuts of a high road bellow
Heads ripped! Watch red bricks turn yellow
Sort of similar to most backbones at camp Icarus
Raw feelings start congregating at pamper for bickering
Life's not a ***** life is a beautiful woman
Your only call her a ***** because she won't let you get that pussy
Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests
Or maybe you're just an ******* who couldn't sweet talk the princess
Kiss the speaker wire or either pass it for some pagan thresh hold
Stomach full of halo kibbles
Wings span cast black of porn visuals hear the duck hunt ticker tape
Vision and pick apart the pixels
I got a friend of polar nature and it's all peace
When I seek similar stars but can't sit at the same feast
Metal Captain!
This cat is asking if I've seen his little lost passion
I told him: 'Yeah, but only when I pedaled past him'

All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.
All I ever wanted was to pick apart the day,
put the pieces back together my way.

OBloommyday
this is so cool thumb up

where can i find these artists? I love their lyrics! they sound very poetic yes

HockeyHorror
if you would like me to send you their songs just IM me. My temporary SN is

Ss Deaglers

OBloommyday
thanks hockyehorror! I just found them on insound!

http://www.insound.com/annex/search.cfm?query=aesop+rock

thanks to you I just found some good hip hop talen! big grin

HockeyHorror
np i guess big grin

madsci
hockeyhorror>whats happenin? it appears that you are still spreading the good news and fighting the fine fight. keep it up.

you (collectively) are absolutely right if you believe it requires no talent to be a rapper. what is really scary is that young children buy into this crap that is sold as "real hip hop." Unfortunately, too many influential "well known" artists are too scared to take a stand and speak out against the so called "evolution of rap music." the only one that does is krs-one.

to be an emcee it takes talent, intelligence, and a unselfish desire to contribute quality music to the hip hop culture. if you call yourself an emcee and can't honestly say these are your qualities and goals, you're only fooling yourself, because everyone else sees through you.

if anyone wants some real hip hop, turn off your radio and do some homework.

madsci
hip hop purist

HockeyHorror
man long time no talk^

good to see you here again big grin

man im wating for CHINO'S ALBUM!!!!

i found the lyrics for his song Wordsmith!

crazy man

MF D00m
great to see madsci back...

if u guys want to see some good lyrics i'll find some and post them when i can...

you guys talk all this shit about rappers but i bet u couldn't understand 1/3 of aesop rock's songs/lyrics.he's too complex for u rock heads.or whatever u listen to...

some of the best rappers out today are white,so stop this you gotta be black to rap because thats ignorant.and no i'm not talkin about eminem.people like slug(sean loves ugly girls),sage francis,aesop rock,pip skid,ect.

HockeyHorror
Aesop Rock is really complex. Excellent rapper.
True some best rappers are white...better than Eminem.
I think Slug is half white and half black.

yo MF D00m
im trying to find lyrics for the song by Chino Xl and Mexakinz called Provoke the Extreme. Can you help me find it?

metal face
hahaha, wow havnt been here in a bit

good to see madsci

dont know if its good to see hockey stealing my steez, haha, im a big fan of aesop rock so i started this ish, if it wasnt for me hockey would have nerver heard of aesop, he was a big fan of tupac, now he's on aesops nuts like lil kim, soooo...rekonize...

cuz i was the first person on here to ever like underground, well along with john smith which i dont see Hmmm

HockeyHorror
actually i wasn't a big fan of pac...just wanted to show people i like hip hop. thats y i used pac's avatar...during the time the only underground rapper i listented to was Ras kass

then you told me about Aesop Rock and i thought we was good...how am i on his nuts?

and y are you always against me man?!

madsci
gentlemen, please let's not argue amongst ourselves. we have bigger fish to fry. apparently the wackness is spreading like a disease on these forums. it is our job to provide the cure.

madsci
hip hop purist

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