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I always hear you Brits yappin about our politicians, but never your own. How is Blair seen by his 'people'?

Please, don't give up some snide one sided remark, I really want to know. What do the people that like him think? What do the people that hate him think? What kind and how many parties do you guys have over there anyways?

He seems like a pretty cool cat to me, but then I know next to nothing about the man except what he says about us.

Edjimacate me!

well, i used to live there only 1 month ago, and i really didnt know anything about him either! only impression i get really is my mum and stepdad really really hated him, said he was running the country into the ground, probably a reason why im over here now!

probably not what you wanted to hear, im sure someone who knows what there talking about will post here soon!

I think he has been abysmal from the first instance, but so are all (or at least most) of the House of Commons MPs.

When our general election (which is sort of the equivalent to your presidential election) rolls up, we probably (particularly the 'MTV generation') won't be caught up in the passion we've seen on here over the last few days/weeks with the US one.

As for Blair i find him too intertwined with Bush, almost like the 'friend' of a bully who are only in that position out of fear.

Interestingly New Labour members were actively trying to disrupt proceedings in the US election which brought Bush into office. It's a turnabout for Blair to be Bush's personal friend (if that can be believed), but I wouldn't say he is "interwined" with Bush at all.

i like blair, on everything except the war in Iraq and his overfriendliness/obedience to Bush

things could be a lot worse and they were under Tory rule.

I would say that Blair's administration is fundamentally even worse than Bush's administration, but I have never lived under Bush's!

HE IS A TOTAL GOON!!!
sorry i just dont like him lol

he has the charisma to be prime minister.... but other than that hes not fit for the job.
the country's gone downhill since he came into power, but ppl wont vote him out because the opposition is a mess atm#

EDIT: the sad thing is, because theres no decent opposition.....parties like the BNP are gettin more and more votes, coupled with the fact that immigration is becoming a huge problem, and islamophobia

Basically he's the only person in the Labour party who trusts and likes George Bush so he has to convince the rest of his own cabinet that he's right or he'll be in trouble.

I think he needs to grow a back bone and stop buying houses with the taxpayers money.

-AC

Tony Blair is fundamentally a nice guy, is trying his level best to do the right thing for the people of Britain, He has a special interest in Africa and the Middle East crisis particularly Israel/Palestine, but he is very very naive in his approach to these very complex problems.
He has a huge need to be seen as a "statesman" for two reasons, he is obsessed with how history will remember him and he has little control over domestic affairs (google Gordon Brown the and granita deal for details).
He has brought a form of peace to where i live which is a damn site more than the previous Prime Ministers ever did, and for that I'm thankful.
As for Iraq, well its a mess, but Britain cannot walk away from the area now, we have a responsibility and an obligation to secure a stable and peaceful nation for the people of Iraq.

blair has been an alright leader, but has no real opposition in the country from the torrys or the lib dems, so he is the best person for the job at the moment i suppose, even though i am not a great fan!

df02, the BNP may be getting more votes, but they are still AGES (and i mean liek a million years) for been a valid opposition to blair or a labor gorenment. I am affraid we are stuck with him fora while until the torrys get there leader sorted out!

HE SUCKS EGGS

yeah i agree until the opponents sort out there leaders we are stuck with Blair.
Which is not bad thing entirely i think he is a good moral person and i think he is taking advantage his friendship with Bush to sort out the crisis in the middle east

I rather have Blair as a leader then any other opponent

blair rules....he's doin what is best..who else would u rather have as prime minister??

blair= dickhead

BRING BACK MAGGIE THATCHER!!!

she has alziemers

yep i agree, i would rather have blair than micheal howard or that ginger scot, who has no real chance of been the pm anyway!

Thanks for the insight. Seems like most of you hate Blair as much as a lot of Americans hate Dubs. What is it wiuth the citizenry commonly hating on their leaders? Theres something fundamentally wrong with that.

I don't get UK politics. You guys have royalty, but the elected officials seem to do all the work, get all the press, and take all the hate. What does the royal family even do?

the royal family dont do nething... they passed almost all their powers onto Parliament ages ago

i never said the BNP were a valid opposition, but because of the increased votes, theyre getting more seats in Parliament so have more of a voice.... which tbh is working out well, they act as an anti-PC voice and argue heavily for the strictening of Immigration laws, and are anti-europe.....all good things, but because they only have a few seats, they have no dangerous amount of power...because lets face it, if they ever got a decent amount of power, the country would go to hell!
theyre pretty much a white power movement in suits.

now, The UK Independence Party, theres a party to vote for....theyre all for the tightening of immigration, anti-europe, strict on crime...but arent white power neo-nazi scum

"blair rules....he's doin what is best..who else would u rather have as prime minister??"

There's not one actually better than him at the moment, just because the opposition is worse. He's doing what's best for him, not us.

-AC

ok, Blairs policy on Iraq pissed alot of people off
but the man is a god
he is the best PM we have had in a hell of a long time.

He called on bush for the peace process in the M:E to restart

What a guy

Tories have the better policies as far as im concerned...they just need a decent charismatic leader, rather than a bald man, a bedwetter or any number of other crap theyve come up with

the bald man comment is based on the fact that no matter how much we try and deny it, alot of our judgements are on the appearance and charisma of the party leader lol....hence why Tony Blair's in power

EDIT: we've not exactly had a decent run of PM's recently tho lol. hes ****ed up the NHS, ****ed up Petrol prices, ****ed up immigration, ****ed up education and has his nose in bush's ass-crack.... but theres no1 better to vote for sadly

they have kilroy as a member! they are as racist as they come!

the royal family are past it, they are a tourist attraction!

i think we should be tight on matters like illegal imigrants, they are like leachs on our society. i dont really mind joining europe fully, as long as keep control of ourselfs and we dont turn into the United States of Europe!

but the thing is, we cant join Europe and keep control of our own country....
Kilroy misworded a comment that was factually based, hes just said it the wrong way...hes admitted that and apologised, his comment just got blown out of proportion by the PC-brigade and now hes demonized... that doesnt mean the entire UKIP is racist, find me 1 of their policies thats even remotely racist

The only thing wrong with this is the fact that there are large portions of the population whose opinions and views are not taken into consideration by the government.

People have no duty to love their leaders, the leaders have a duty to represent the people who live in the area they are representing, whether they voted for them or not. When the leaders fail to do this, there is a lot of hate, frustration, and negative opinions of these people who are supposed to take into account all the angles that dont.



nothing, they are only ceremonial.

then i think we shouldnt join fully then. we need to keep control of OUR country for as long as possible, we already have lot of other country sappping money from our country! and god damn illegal imigrants, they really annoy me the fact they come to the country and they just take money in benifits and all the crap.

kilroy made a mistake, but he is known for been racist in general. the guys alright at the end of the day, but i would never vote for him! i think i would vote tory if i could, and if they had a stronger leader. They should bring back William Hauge, he was the last leader i ccan remeber the name of, lol

I wish Europe (not neccesarily the UK, but at least some of the continental nations) organize into a "United States of Europe"... having one world superpower sucks. I wish there was somebody there to keep the US in check.

and how would Europe "keep the US in check" ?

if all the country in europe, especially if russia got involved, it would easily be greater than any forces the US could come up with!

During the Cold War, neither the US or Russia had full liscence to do whatever, whenever, whereever... there was another majopr player that they had to take into consideration.

If there was a united Europe I think that there would possibly be a chance that instead of the US having free reign over the world that there would be someome there that could challenge what they do, and that would be a consideration that would have to be taken into account by the US. A united Europe could challenge the US technologically, economically, and financially.

Right now the US/European relationship isnt exactly perfect... as much as I hate to say it, I wish the US would do something that would piss off enough Europeans to make them organize against them. I think thats the only way that the US can really be "kept in check."

Sweet....so are you two like Nazi Germans or something?

Now you're talking about uniting an entire continent against the United States for invading Iraq....just to "keep them in check"

Further more, you've just set the rest of the entire world much, much farther back than any war in Iraq could possibly do. You DO realize that the United States is allies with most of Europe, and that if Europe were to suddenly gang up on America....Other countries would come to America's aid just because of their vested interest in the US. right?

You named Russia, the US, and Europe as super powers. What about the Asian side of the world. What would Japan, China, Australia, Indonesia...and all of the alike countries do while 15 countries gang up on the US?

What you guys are talking about is World War 3. There can be no uniting all of Europe to create an army just to "keep America in check" otherwise you'll have armagedon.

we are not talk about war, we are talking about a force in the world stronger than the US. Just cos this force is there, doesnt mean we have to use it!

Why would you need a force stronger than the US in order to keep them in check.

That would almost undoubtably be seen for what it is....a direct threat to the safety and security of the United States.

i take it you are american?!

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No I hold a lot of very socially egalitarian views. I support free enterprise, but would personally like to see greatly accountability and decentralization of multinational corporations. I support democratic government, and freedom of speech.

Im pretty liberal in my political views.

I am absolutely against any kind of neo-nazism or anti-semitism.

That has nothing to do with my view that I would like to see another superpower rise to challenge the US.

I am not saying that there should be war... I didnt even mention Europe's military capacity. I am saying that when you have one major player (the US) they could in theory do anything they please. The US 1 vs 1 could take out anyone on the planet. They could also be a military challenge if things deteriorated that badly, but thats not what I was saying. Thats not where I started this conversation out on though. That is not the point I was trying to make.

If there were a group of European countries who disagree with the United States policies (already exists) and they organized politically and economically they could be another "interest group" in the political decision making in the US. I know a lot of people dislike the EU now, but it would be nice if someone could influence US foreign policy decision making.

I dont think that there should be another Cold War type stand off, but I think that there should be organized political states which challenge the US unilateral foreign policy decisions.

They arent taking foreign opinion into their decisions now, they are using this retarded cowboy mentality the "your with us or your a terrorist" and to put it planely, if Europe firmly and unitedly challenged the US's logic here maybe things would work out better than things are now.

thats what im sayin...no one is better than him at the moment..so people might as well put up with him..even if they dont like him
i think he is doinwhats best for britain..not himself

"i think he is doinwhats best for britain..not himself"

Paying for his house with taxpayers money isn't best for Britain.

-AC

I think we can all safely rule out WW III involving United Sates of Eurpoe vs United States of America. lol
Europe is worse than the the united nations for agreement on policy, besides, the majority of the population of the British isles would rather have closer links to USA than USE even despite the Iraq war.

for a good reason as well, we are probably safer been on the side of the US in most situations! Apart from war cos they just use all OUR troops!

AC, I thin that as well! he shouldnt be able to claim for another house, thats just stupid, isnt it! Didn't some women claim about £30,000 on postage and packaging????? There was loads of stup[id figures in that thingie!

Tony Blair is yummy!

I think if a United Europe was created the US's allies in Europe would disappear. personally i have nothing against the US, its a great country but a lot of europe feels differently.

A united europe would not be created just to keep the US in check, it would have many other purposes as well like providing financial stability in Europe.

The reason people would like a United Europe to keep the US"in check" is because at the moment the US can make decisions which have a dramatic impact on the rest of the world but the rest of the world can have no say in them, like environmental policies. A united europe would just give europe some political clout to use when the US was embarking on policies which affect the rest of the world for the worse in the interests of the US.

www.threeworldwars.com

serious site about the possibility of a third world war

so no other leaders would do this?

this may be a little off topic but why DO americans hate the french and feel the need to lump europe into one country (which seems a little narrow minded as every country is very distinct)

Well about the french, about half the country hates it when people disagree with them or point out faults in policy.(Not all Americans hate the French, no need to generallize about them either)

And about lumping Europe together, a large number of people in America... a large number are absolutely horrible at geography and too ****ing stupid to look at a map. Has to do with the public education system not teach you shit here.

it seems that 90% of Americans are ignorant to anything that originates outside their borders

i dont see why the american hate the french cos the french are the reason the US is the way it is today. They played a pivital rople in the war of indipendence against the english!

they think the US is all thw orld has to offer, and that is the greatest nation in the world! which its not! they want to make the whole of europe one country so it is easier for them in geograhpy, cos they cant tell half the countrys apart, lol.

and they are not 'a little narrow minded' cermiestar, they are alot narrow minded when it comes to the world outside their own borders!

all of you are sitting here calling american's idiots and ignorant...

is it really any wonder why Americans have a less than stellar view of Europeans. You're all pricks....snobby pricks no less.

A Buncha shit talkers that can't teach what they preach.

i think tony blair is a little sheep who is too scared to disagree with george bush

I totally agree

"is it really any wonder why Americans have a less than stellar view of Europeans. You're all pricks....snobby pricks no less."

At least we by a majority take the time to know about your country and what goes on in it, being the ally that we are. I know Americans who are too ignorant to see outside their own state and still think that England is all tea, suits and James Bond.

I challenge you to find a Brit who still believes there's cowboys and indians running around the US. Never happen. Americans more often than not believe the English stereotype they are fed and actually take it as fact, which is why many Americans are surprised when they come here.

Anyone could argue that due to America's lack of will to evolve as a country and stay as a young, upstart nation, is the reason why it's strong but significantly smaller ally (Britain), is going down the drain. Coz instead of your country continuing to grow, you drag us down to your level.

-AC

I personaly don't have anything agaisn't the French or any other Nation in the world. But there are two sides to the coin. I heard many British hate the French and vise versa. Why is that? Is it a soccer thing?

Majority of US and UK, the world in general are idiots. That has something to do with it.

Also the fact that when many Britons go over to France it's said they're met with arrogance, ignorance and possibly hostility if you don't speak french. I've been and never experienced that but then again, when the whole world makes fun of you then wants to vacation in your country, can you blame them for getting their own back?

-AC

"it seems that 90% of Americans are ignorant to anything that originates outside their borders"

Thats because youre always yakkin about America! How bout talking about yourselves once in awhile?

No offence, but when our only solid ally is the biggest and arguably most powerful nation in the world with a leader who does nothing but exploit our leader, this in turn effects our country. The way our country is run does not effect you as much as the way yours run, effects us.

Sort your government out, or indeed 51% of the voting populace and a president who is willing to be closer to an equal than Bush and maybe both our countries can get back to normal. It isn't making us any more popular in the world when Bush keeps bending Blair over a desk is it?

Damn.

-AC

agreed

maybe cos of the war with napolean and other historic events

nothin to do with football...

i agree sometime americans can seem oblivious to what is goin on outside there country...sometimes its as if america live in there own little planet...thats the impression i get sometimes...no offence to anyone cos i know it dont apply to every american

I'm not applying what I said to all Americans either, just to clarify.

I just find it quite BS (and I'm not defending my country or it's people here) that Europe are gonna take the blame and be called snobby bastards who don't worry about our own country but America instead. If America tried living in the now and smarten up rather than putting Bush back in office, our relationship (politically) with the US might be more Friend-Friend rather than Bully-Sidekick. Wirh Blair it's the British peoples opinion VS George Bush, guess what? He aint backing us.

-AC

Would those historic events include the 100 year war, 7 year war, and the Spanish Succession?

Just in case you didn't see the US election... about 48% of America agrees with you.

It's that other 52% that we have to get rid of that's bogging down our country.

Religion is a MAJOR factor that's holding us down. 52% of Americans apparently don't know what "seperation of church and state" means. All religion does is bring back some old ass traditions and very notable bigotry.

Apart from religion, ignorant rednecked gun-humping hicks are holding this country back as well. They vote for someone who is like them because they are too insignificant to do anything important. They want to see someone similar to them be successful, when they never could be.

Yes, Americans are the most arrogant people on the planet.

Absolutely agreed! That's why the U.S. is so full of liberals. Our country wouldn't be free if it wasn't for those well educated and caring liberals. When in doubt ask the liberals they will tell you the truth about everything.

I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not...

There is nothing wrong with being liberal. In fact, if you take a look back, the only thing liberals have done is help the country. There are 3 major things the liberal have implemented. Civil rights, social security, and medicare. I dare someone to find anything morally wrong with any of the 3, OR find ONE republican who doesn't take advantage of any one of the three.

I actually like most americans. They're generally nice people. But it seems the US is still stuck in isolationism to a certain degree. This wouldnt be so much of a problem if the US wasnt the most influencial country. I have a real thing against the US environmental policy because there seems a distinct lack of it. Yet most of Europe (paricularly Germany) is working its arse off to try and bring an end to stuff like global warming, yet the impact is not enough because countries like the US will not play their part.

I dont know exactly what you mean by the "cowboys and indians" statement, but I have two good friends who are full blooded Dakota people, and there are people who could be classified as "cowboys" that, also still exist. If your meaning that they arent running around shooting each other, you arent familiar with the AIM during the 1970's.

Siege at Wounded Knee 1973

The United States is still imprisoning Leonard Peltier in connection to those events... shit like that still goes on.


I get you point, its a good point... but had to point that out.

All good, I didn't mean to generalise. But I mean our stereotypical heritages. More people in America actually believe ours is still upheld than vice versa because as someone said, the nations populace are rather ignorant to the world around them.

America, considering it's young compared to us, need to realise that it needs the world just as much as the world needs it. It has to much of a "Yeah we're fine on our own" standpoint with Bush at the helm.

-AC

anymore wars u would like to point out involving britain?

The English (as opposed to British) dislike of the French stems from the events of 1066, when William the Bastard killed the real King of England and took his place... since then we have been a subject race... I could point out that because of this, an animal in the field is English, but when killed for meat it becomes French... because we raised them, but our lords and masters got to eat them.. even our overlords have played on this dislike, saying at various times "We are as English as you... now fight for us so we can get our old lands in France back..." because the Norman and Angevin Kings in England had a claim to the French throne, and held onto that claim for centuries, France became our traditional enemy... down to two lots of French nobles who wanted what the others had... we just did the dirty work for them... this is also why it is seen as more socially acceptable in England to drink wine than it is to drink beer.... wine is French, beer English... but back on topic... Blair is a PM for the MTV generation... he governs by soundbite and has no substance.... the only English politicians worth anything were Enoch Powell, Oswald Mosely, Tony Benn, Ken Livingstone, Norman Tebbit, and David Taylor....

Tony Blair is beyond any words i can think of...that lying, cheating bastard...i dont think the words id like to use to describe what i think of him, are invented yet.

Yea Tony blair's an arse but there is no party that appeals to the majority. The lib dems are too pro europe, the tory's arent appealing because a lot of people think they're a shambles and they seem unable to choose a leader that appeals to the public, UKIP's considered too right wing, the green party too pro europe as well... So it looks like we're going to be stuck with TB for another 4/5 yrs.

"The English (as opposed to British) dislike of the French stems from the events of 1066"

I think it's time to let it go...

-AC

Tony Blair is a complete f**ker can't keep his nose away fro bush's ass, anything Bush wants to do (e.g. war) Blair follows!!!!!!

yeah, that's exactly what i think

i am with you that is exactly what is happening today!

i disagree

Are you gonna tell us why?

i like tony blair,thats all there is to say....all people can say about him on here is that he is up bushes ass....so if anyone can tell me another reason why u dislike him then thats please do...if u dont like him then vote for lib dems or the tory party......if u are stupid of course

I actually like Tony Blair. He likes music, plays guitar, likes footie and can be very witty in "normal" interviews ala his interview on the Chris Moyles show. I honestly believe he has the countries best intentions at heart but is easily bullied and perhaps works with one hand tied behind his back and tries to keep to many people happy ie Bush on one side and the British public on the other.

Blair is a spineless bastard who will agree with any of America's policies for fear of losing them as an allie.

I seriously hope you are taking the piss. Blair is sending out more and more young men to die in a pointless war, many of them with families; but lets all vote for him because the ****er can play the guitar and watches football!? Get real.

in the long run the war will be all worth it.....to make peace you sometimes have to go through war

i hate all this "he's sending them to war" bollocks now aswell....seriously, why do you think they joined the army? for the communal soaping up in the shower

they were trained for war, they joined the army to defend their country and its best interests, they joined the army expecting that, and their family did aswell.... sure its bad when some1 dies, but thats what comes with the package of joining the army!

and before any1 comments, im joining the RAF after college....and i will go to war if needs be.

No, not really there is no point in doing that. Here is something that interests me. Are there many Blair haters in the UK? Seems like that anyone that is involved with Bush gets bash around quite a lot.

I think the answer is pretty obvious, if you read this thread.

Some people do not have a choice about joining the forces.

I find it appalling that you suggest that just because people have joined the army they should be sent to war to die with no remorse because ''thats what they signed up to do''. Countries best interest? And what are Britains interests in going to war with iraq apart from Blair's head up Bush's ass?

All I'm reading is "BLAIR IS A FKER HE SUCKS". Aside from supporting Bush are there any reasons to not support Blair? Is England in bad shape? Is the economy that bad? Unemployment? Is it because Blair supports Bush that no one likes him?

Bush has remorse...not a lot, but he has some remorse.

It is the military's job to be sent to war...even if the result is death. That's the point of having a military....to have someone do the dirty work while other people can continue to live their lives unfettered.

Britains have no interests in going to war, and by all rights should not be in the war. The whole, "we're America's allies...we have to help them" arguement is utter crap. This is the one country that could have possibly talked Bush out of going to war with Iraq, if they had done similar to Germany and the French.

I'd say your country needs new leadership even worst than the United States. Atleast our leaders are dumb enough to make their own mistakes and follow through with them. Your country's leaders just blindly follow our poor leadership without thinking of what's best for their own people.



As for American's being dumb for re-electing Bush. I would stop to think of the other side of the arguement. Instead of thinking "anybody but Bush"....everyone should really take the time to think about how bad Kerry must have been in order to lose to Bush.

Yea there are probs. Like tuition fees and crap like that. Blairs really unpopular in rural areas as well. To be honest at the moment Ken livingstones the one rilli pissing me off.

I didnt have a problem with the war i think it was justified (maybe not for the reasons blair stated but thats a whole different thing). If the UK suddenly ended up in the situation Iraq was in I hope another country would step in and help us. What I had a problem with was the fact that Bush and Blair wasnt prepared to put any more effort into doing it with the UN's support.

Our country needs someone to oppose Blair. God, hes such a dick its unbeliavable.

The way he spoke to peoplein time of those petrol crisis, was just appalling. A leader, a good leader should not have adressed his people in the way he did. Lets not even go into him raising our tuition fees 200%.

No if we'd done the same as France and Germany, Bush would have gone to war 6 months earlier than he did and there would be serious problems now. Bush would have gone to war with or without our support. Us being in this war just increases its chances of suceeding.

Blair didnt follow Bush blindly, he knew exactly what he was doing. IMO he took part in the war to take the focus off of other problems in this country and buy himself more time to solve them. He's also managed to introduce new laws giving himself more power as a consequence.

O ye the petrol crisis... dont get me started.... Also - i love the way we have a congestion charge, an increase in bus and train fares and the petrol crisis all at the same time! Are they trying to make us all stay at home or something?

so is Blair in charge of tuition nation-wide? Or are there areas of the country that aren't affected by this larger fee?

who would be the people with no choice about joining the forces? as far as i know theres no conscription in the UK...

as for the "sent to war to die"....thats not the case at all, theyre sent to war to fight... dieing is a possibility, but its the last thing any1 wants. if they arent going to fight, what SHOULD the army do? id love an answer to that, since there isnt 1.... war happens, the army is there to fight it! ur so caught up in trying to oppose everything to do with the government that ur ignoring basic stuff.......like: the army is there to fight.....if its not fighting, what is it doing?

The british armed forces were told that the war was for the future safety of the surrounding countries of iraq, and ultimately...the world, argue that as much as you like... as sceptical as it is now, that was the reason they were sent into Iraq! and tbh, with that reason in mind, i, as i think most in the armed forces would be, would have been proud do do my part to secure the safety of our and their countries! even if it meant risking my life.... but with what we know now, theres no chance id have fought in iraq

scotland isnt. Wales is i think but i dont know bout N.Ireland.

Nation wide im afraid. Every University in Britain. 200% raise is a lot. Oh and also, the gap between rich and poor was at his higest in the time of Thatcher, however that all changed 2 years ago. Now Blair holds that record.

After giving Gray Davis the boot last year and replacing him with Arnold Schwarzennegar...community college units is California went from $11/per unit to $28/per unit.

I'd hate to think of what happened to Universities.


California has like the 5th largest economy in the world and then we kick out our governor....which never happens....and Bush did nothing to give California some sort of help. That's sad.

i thought the scottish were exempt from tuition fees? Cos loadsa people said that the scottish MP's shouldnt be allowed to vote on something that doesnt apply to them? maybe it was all changed. prob my mistake.

"In Scotland
The situation is different in Scotland, where universities don't charge tuition fees to Scottish students.

Instead, Scottish graduates pay a Graduate Endowment. Basically, this is a fixed amount (currently £2,000) which is payable in instalments after graduation. The money goes towards funding bursaries and grants for future students. " Ok so maybe they do its just called something else... and its less

I'm not taking the piss and I never said anything about voting for him. I'd rather drive a bolt through my penis than vote for labour. This thread is "What does the UK think of Tony Blair?" And in answer to that, as a UK citizen, I think he's a decent bloke. Do you really think he wants to send young guys to their dooms? Does he fu*k. Do you think he has sleepless nights over the fate of these kids? Yes he does.

exactly, do u think it is easy running a country??
if so then maybe some people in here should apply to the job

No actually, Voting liberal or conservative would NOT automatically make you stupid as suggested earlier. We all have a right to vote how we like with out any judgement/interference/intimidation from supporters of other parties.

Stupid would be putting up with 4 more years of rubbish from an arrogant, dictating spinmeister who doesnt seem to be able to answer any real questions about his extremely questionable track record in NHS, education, taxation (Also Brown's fault, granted..), border control, farming, false or inaccurate(Modified..?) reports of unemployment/crime figures, Iraq, The BBC/Dr.Kelly, tuition fees, strikes, the whole thing without pointing immediately at what he is doing abroad or even a lot of the time, just giving answers to completely different and irrelevent questions....or just ignoring the issues...

Stupid would be trusting a man now whose only reassurance to us in the past was- 'Trust me... Im Tony Blair' when in every instance he applied that to, he completely screwed us over to curry favour/power for himself...

How many times does it take a man to say"Im not going to hit you" only for him to hit you low and hard everytime before you start to say to yourself-"Hmm. I'd better put my guard up..."? Who would be the more stupid. The guy with all ribs intact- or the guy with a ribcage like mashed hamburger...?

I totally agree that indeed its got to be one tough job running this country but not so hard to run it into the ground though... Especially with his 'one-size-fits-all-nanny-state-'BS that smacks at times of quasi- communism. ('No dissent..! No criticism or we will unleash the spin on your ass...!')

The Tories get a lot of flak for Thatcher era conservatism and true,
Micheal Howard WAS on that cabinet. But I really do feel that they couldn't screw things up in this country anymore than this Labour,
And by the way.. before Thatcher, under Labour we had the winter of discontent(at the time of the petrol/fire service strikes, I thought we were back there again..) so while the Tories aren't perfect, Labour also have had a less-than-perfect history in other past/current terms too so it may be wise to remember that when considering track records before automatically condeming other parties based soley on that.

So in answer to the Blair question.. No I DON'T like his work"ethics" ..even if he does play guitar.

Happy voting... and peace.