Origin

I am finally getting around to reading this and i am sure many of u have read it. I am about 2 thirds of the way through and i just wanted to talk about it and hear other opinions.

It was a decent concept but could have been handled much better. In my opinion when dealing with characters who have a mysterious past it's always best to leave it that way. Especially when that clouded history brings a great deal of appeal to that character. I liked Wolverine because you had no idea WHO or where he was from. You just knew he was a bad mofo supposedly from Canada.

They pretty much gut everything it is I use to conceptualize about Logan. Especially when they gave him a " name ". That I could have done without. Now I see the blasted name everywhere and it's horrible that they've been trying to integrate it into continuity. Origin could've been a story without words or explanation. Just allowing you a small glimpse of what was occurring in his past and allowing you based on conjecture to determine what was going on. They did that somewhat but it wasn't appealing at all to me. I gave it a 6 out of 10.

i loved it, one of the best marvel comics. 9 out of 10.
the part where rose is reading a poem of the great WILLIAM BLAKE is beautiful.

we could talk about the story but first you got to finish reading it, i don´t want to spoil anything

I liked it very much.

It lets you see a side of Wolverine you never knew about, and didn't expect it (at least, I didn't)

A very 'tragic' past ✅

Originally posted by norrin radd
i loved it, one of the best marvel comics. 9 out of 10.
the part where rose is reading a poem of the great WILLIAM BLAKE is beautiful.

we could talk about the story but first you got to finish reading it, i don´t want to spoil anything

lol thanks, i am gonna finish it tomorrow. too tired now

hmm, well until "the end" came out, I was convinced that Dog was really Cyber. but now....
at least this one doesn't have as many contradictions as bullseye: greatest hits, course all of his origins are probably true from a certain point of view...

Okay i just finished reading it and i must say i was pleased with it! Does anyone know whether they are going to make a sequel to it... maybe showing what happens next and when he goes to Japan and so forth?

i dont know, but there is a wolverine comic named netsuke thats about his life in japan, i only got 2 issues and it wasnt what i expected but i thought it was a good comic

i think its great that they showed the life he doesnt remember, sure its cool to have a character with a mysterious past, but it's only so long till it really doesnt matter anymore, i mean he's been around so long in comics that before origins i considered his past as his first appearance and the whole weaponX story, but it was cool to finally explore his childhood and what it was like, the whole Logan thing was great imo

btw snakeeyes i love the achilles quote

i read netsuke, it´s about his past in japan, about one women he loved, i liked the comic and the draws are great.

Originally posted by Havoc470
btw snakeeyes i love the achilles quote

Thanks 😎

no problem 😮‍💨

Originally posted by norrin radd
i read netsuke, it´s about his past in japan, about one women he loved, i liked the comic and the draws are great.

about origin, i think we all agree that Thomas Logan is the real father of james howlett.

about sabretooth, i think he´s the older brother of james, they say he´s dead, remember when james (wolverine) kill thomas and his mother say; "Oh james not you to, i knew this would happen again" (don´t know the exact words since i have the comic in portuguese).

i think john howlet (james brother) isn´t really dead, he was probably kicked out of home like james after cuting is mother , remember the marks in her body? if this is true i doubt james howlet senior knows anything about this he probably believes his "son" to be dead (like i´ve stated before i think its obvios the mother had an affair with thomas thats why i put the " " when i said he was john howlet senior son).

in the story you get the impression that dog can also be sabretooth, but i don´t think so, since he has that marks in the face (the healing factor would heal that) unless his healing factor isn´t wotking at 100% yet.
but even so if he was james brother john howlett senior would recognize the son.

this is only my opinion of the story, what do you guys think?

I basically agree with what ur saying. Origin explained a LOT about Wolverine's history, but it also left a LOT a mystery, and maybe that was their intention. But i kinda hope they make another Origin that continues the story, because they could do some pretty neat things. Dog and Sabretooth are completely different i think. As for the John Howlett being Sabretooth, i think that is a possibility, because of the mother and her scars and so forth...

You mean Sabretooth being Wolverine's dad? They messed around with that possibility in the 90's I think, but it went nowhere so they did a DNA test confirming they weren't related.

no, he is saying sabretooth to be wolverine´s brother.

in origin john howlet is the name of the father and of the brother (who is supposedly dead), thats why i used the name john howlet senior, when i was referring to the father.

Originally posted by Nathaniel Grey
Origin could've been a story without words or explanation. Just allowing you a small glimpse of what was occurring in his past and allowing you based on conjecture to determine what was going on.

I doubt it would be effective if the story was completely without words as Albert Lamorisse's "The Red Balloon."

Originally posted by norrin radd
...in the story you get the impression that dog can also be sabretooth, but i don´t think so, since he has that marks in the face (the healing factor would heal that) unless his healing factor isn´t wotking at 100% yet.

At first, I also thought Dog was Sabertooth in the beginning, but the healing factor issue...

Beyond the Origins series, one of my favorite Wolverine flashbacks is the one with him fighting (beserk with only a knife) against the Germans in Normandy through the perspective of a Canadian private.

"i'll hunt him down like a dog"-that fits into Cyber's powers.

If Dog was Sabretooth, his healing factor might not kick in until later in life perhaps.

was it ever actually confirmed that james howletts real father was the groundskeeper?

it was never confirmed, but i think its obvious that Thomas logan had an affair with james mother, and the resemblances speak for themselves