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..ok, now there is a general conception that guys masterbaai, and girls dont. and girls will absoultly not ever admit to it, normally. why? thats my question. we all know that girls do it, but why wont they admit it?..i dunno kinda pisses me off.

by the way, i do know many girls that do, because well.....i wont get into it,.....haha!

but i have asked alot of girls and right off the start its a definite NO!
but sinse i know thier lying, i persist and eventually evey girl i talk to about it ends up admiting to it aftr a good amount of persuasion.

why dont girls just admit to it, it only makes u sound dumb...

(ps. i know guys dont admit either, but they admit more easily, because, well guys do it..lol)

Because they want to appear feminine, not like they are horny bitches looking for sex.

Guys do it because we're thickheaded and think with our lower brain...

We don't masturbate, because we have slumber parties.











You wish.

too lame of an excuse for me....women, common! just admit it and be done with it!

You will find that once you have actually had sex with a girl your fascination with this subject will fade.

what's the problem?
maybe girls don't do it, but after that persuation they say they do ,just to get rid of you?

Hmm.
Wonder why that didn't work for me?

Wait...are we talking about masturbation or masterbation? Because honestly, I've never heard of the latter. I know girls that do. I think there is a certain factor of sleaze that comes with the admittance to masturbating. If someone walked up to you and said "I masturbate." Your first reaction is "WTF??". Also, guys have a stronger sex drive than women. It's naturally installed so that they would actually want to reproduce.

In layman's terms: Girls aren't always horny like guys.

Whats the betting this gets a hell of alot of views.

Btw- why ph why do you ask a girl you have just met if they masturbate

I'm curious where you get this "fact" from... cos it sounds like made up horsecrap to me.

no offense.

Tell you what. Girls just won't admit it.

Nope- I'll NEVER EVER admit it.
AND I've got NO sex drive, compared to you menfolk.

Yes I masticate

and i like to debate.

would it make you feel better if girls were admiting what they don't do?

It's biological. It's apparent in ALL animals. If you want details on which chemicals in the brain cause it, look it up in psychology or neurology. General information on the behavior of the genders is in biology.

It's the only logical explanation to why (most of the time) guys have a stronger sex drive. I agree with AF. Its the natural order of genders in men and animals.

Mastication

damn now i am hungry

Agreeing with AF should be enough to convince me you are wrong, but Im willing to wait it out so see if you can back this up - rather that name a random statistic. I find that 90% of all posts with percentages in them are made up BS.

You just threw out you're whole argument with "It's the only logical explaination". You can't pull that with Mr. Zero.

Though, yes, the male sex drive is stronger than the female's. It's a fact. I don't have the source on me, but a simple search for an article on the internet should be more than enough to satisfy.

Besides innate sex drive, there may be other reasons why women would not profess a sexual interest. Actually, I recall a study where people of both genders were shown various "genres" of erotic material and porn. Women had a more marked discrepancy between their reports of sexual arousal and their physiological signs of arousal.
I'm sorry, I don't archive this kind of thing. I wouldn't know how to find it. Anyway, it was probably NOT large or definitive. It still has value, however, in that it encourages people to look from different angles at this.
Holy Sh!t! Did I just begin taking this seriously?
Back to wanking.

When I get serious, the foundations of reality crumble slightly...you guys feel the earth move, or was it only me?

Oh, my floor definitly sank 6 inches.

In the past minutes this has gone from 17 views to 84
I wonder why

I thought it was because I dropped my Axe.

Sh!t, I'm out of funnies. Could this be the end of the world?

The sky is falling!

No, we can still talk about tossing our salads??

Toss them at the next demon to come at you, along with the kitchen sink- this is the apocalypse!

You just made a funny!

And...we're back. Close one, hey?

Indeed.

I think the scariest part was when Satan saw my basement and suffered a coronary. I'm not good with those kinds of situations, and I got a busy signal from 911...
Let's discuss. What was scariest, for you?

hysterical

The scariest was when Michael Jackson showed up...in...my house. Umm...yeah pretty damn scary.

Mane, I'm sorry. I'll try not to be serious in more than one thread at a time.
Michael Jackson, good gosh. Did he...uh, did he... uh, Mane do you want the number of a Crisis Center?

Utter bullshit. Women are as sexual as are men - and women masterbate too.

The reason why women wont admit it is because its somehow shamefull - when in fact it isnt.

It would be shamefull if people stopped haking your hand

Yes women are as or more sexual than men, but women don't get as aroused as easily as men (most of the time). That's what he was saying.

And yes, alot of women masturbate, but like I said, alot don't admit it because upon admitting it, there is a certain factor of judgement by other people (and/or shame) invloved.

--- You will find that once you have actually had sex with a girl your fascination with this subject will fade. ---

ummm, im 18 and i have had sex with alot more then one girl....please dont assume things, it makes u look like an idiot

No, it isn't bullshit. And I never said women didn't masturbate, and I never said the female sex drive is non-existant.

Of course there are exceptions but generally, men have a stronger sex drive. I know plenty of women who are very sexual and are open about talking about sex and masturbation, but they aren't the majority. It really doesn't matter if you want to accept it or not.

I would like to know where exactly did this idea that men have higher sexual drive come from. Please link me to the source (an academic one preferably)

Untill you do, i am going to continue thinking you're talking crap.

hysterical as always Zman you have the best reply hysterical

Well, Milla, you happen to be quite an...electric girl. But some are different.

Please, Mane, I think it's disrespectful to assume Milla doesn't have a wide familiarity with women. I doubt she's proceding only from knowledge of herself or a handful of women she knows.
She isn't, actually, making any declarations- she's simply stating that she doubts other's sweeping declarations.

Understandable, I'd want prrof if someone refuted my beliefs too.

http://www.google.com/search?q=which+gender+has+the+greater+sex+drive&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N

Pages and pages of info just for you Lil B. Don't feel like going through all of it? Here, I'll take an exerpt from the first site:

Among those who reported previously engaging in sexual intercourse at least once, 55% of women and 35% of men reported consenting to unwanted sexual intercourse at least one time. In the marital context, Carlson (1976) found that 84% of wives and 64% of husbands reported that they usually or always participated in sexual activities when their partners wanted to and they did not.

This just shows that some women will have sex, not because they want to, but because their male partner wants too. Therefore, men want to have sex more often than women do. If you'll notice, the percentage of men who have sex only to please their female partners is 20% lower.

Both of these points support my initial argument. Generally men want sex more often than women do.

Oh no no! I didn't mean it as disrespectful! I just meant that she can be an exception, and there are others like her, but im just saying not all women are the same. Most of the time (probably 75%-85%) of the time, men have a greater sex drive. If you are a woman within that 15%-25%, I commend you.

You can make a different inference.
"...found that 84% of wives and 64% of husbands reported that they usually or always participated in sexual activities when their partners wanted to and they did not."
This discrepancy could explain why more women have "unwanted sex" than do men. It may only be because women are more likely to consent, and men, to say "Not now, baby." So men may be the recipient of just as many unwanted advances. They simply shut their honey down more effectively.

Mane, who would really know the minds of these women? Just because they do not/can not fully manifest their sex drive, nor own up to it, doesn't mean it isn't there- oh good Lord, I'm getting serious.

Hmm...ok there's been some misunderstanding in what I'm saying, so to clear it up:

Men and Women have sex drives. It's natural; innate since birth. Why? Reproduction. When people say men have stronger sex drives, they mean that men are more easily motivated. Saying men have stronger sex drives doesn't mean that women don't have them, it just means it takes longer for a woman to get warmed up. That's a fact.

I masturbate all the time. Some days, I get the urge to do it five or six times.

As for girls, I've never known one not to admit to it. Maybe I hang out with more liberated girls.

Hey, there's an idea, tell these girls you're gay. They won't have any issues being honest.

Oh and you were doing so well right up to "That's a fact." - almost as poor as AF quoting some random figures from a study about the frequency of consenting to unwanted sexual advances amongst married couples and saying this somehow backs up his argument.

Tho - perhaps Im doing him a disservice and he meant to post that in another thread where it's somehow relevant? Who knows....?

The only think you can say for certain (pay attention please) is that females experience sexual arousal in a different way to men. This might suggest that they are aroused by different types of stimulus than men - but it could equally be down to peer-group conditioning and other factors.

As a result of that* - statistically speaking men are more likely to over state answers when questioned about sex and women (generally) tend to understate them. It's called "response bias".

If thats the case women are FAR more sexual than men in a far more complicated way. IF thats the case.

Saying "men have stronger sex drives" isnt just misleading, it's fundamentally unprovable and thus incorrect*. Plus we have to remember we are generalising - and sexuality isnt about generalisation, its at its most important when its one-on-one.

Or five on one, but thats another story for another time.

*I thought I'd do AF a favour (and make it a little more interesting for me) by pointing out the weaker points in my post in advance - kinda like tying one hand behind my back.

So I take it your hand is your best friend then eh?

I bet his right arm is like Arnies and his left is like bill gates

Testosterone is a major part(not the ONLY part) in a person's sex drive, male or female. Females have significantly less amounts of testosterone, and therefore would have a lower sex drive. Logical isn't it?

If you want sources for that statement, just google it. I'm done with this thread, there is no point in arguing with someone who will never see that they're mistaken.

True.

"Though, yes, the male sex drive is stronger than the female's. It's a fact. I don't have the source on me, but a simple search for an article on the internet should be more than enough to satisfy."

The male sex drive is stronger between the ages of 18 - 25 or so, this is the males prime for sexual intercourse. They are generally more sexually obsessed them women during this time in their life, however.

A womans sexual prime occurs during their 30's. Generally 30-37 or so. During this time, women have a stronger sex drive and a want for sex then men of this age.

Of course, there are exceptions to both of these, as always. This shouldn't suggest that EVERY 18-25 year old man will have a better sex drive then EVERY 18-25 year old woman. This is just generally speaking.

There isnt a day that goes by that I dont masturbate, I did it 9 1/2 times one day

My record: 6 times in 25 minutes. Fast and effecient. flirt1

I blew one out in 46 seconds

Ohh I got one in 35! Beat that!

Danm, your the man

I learn it all from Han Solo.

did he give you a hands on demonstration?

Better believe it.

scared

Carmen Elektra helped meshifty

Actly guys will not admit to alot of stuff why girls do much easier.My boyfriend will not admit to anything even if I ask him.And what about that old saying that says man will not ask for diretion?
Which means that they will not admit that they got lose in a car and stop and ask for help,What do you say to that guys?JM

To be honest, I never have actually done it

If I have an urge, I just think and fantasies, never touch.

* pats on sholder* sure we believe you wink1

Depending on her(?) age, she might be telling the truth.

I started when I was 8

I was nine when i started. I was watching real sex. I was easily amused then...ok, still am.

You cant be serious, can you? So what are you going to be quoting random studies at me so it looks like you have a clue what you're talking about?

What you quoted, has absolutely nothing to do with the sex drive - it states how many people experineced unwanted sex - how in the world does that support anything you have said. Let me make it easy for you - it doesnt.
I also looked through the whole page of those websites and not one mentiones anyting about female sex drive being lower than male - thus your argument is still utter crap.

I thought this thread got shut down.. o well

I am a girl and I will admit to it -

what is the big deal - and most girls do masterbate--I dont know what the big deal is

that you make generalisations... it's not cause your dad doesn't that no one does

what the feck thats impossable

also i have sex with my girlfriend but i still masturbate.

i think most men do

My girl asked me if I ever masturbated while we were in a relationship. She said she's be offended if I looked at/thought of anyone else while doing it, I said I think of her if I ever have to do it because that's the truth.

I won't reveal my girls personal habits but I'll say that most girls have either masturbated or thought about doing it. I don't see what the big deal is to be perfectly honest.

-AC

EVERY girl, by the age of 18, has at least thought of it

unless she's been brought up proper strict, and not taught about sex and that kinda stuff

Well, I don't carry a picture of it in my wallet or anyting, but no. In reality, my boyfriend is my best friend. But, he can't always be there, can he?

Do you have any control over how bizzar you are?

That aside, I've never known any guy to deny he does it. But, then again...you're boyfriend is most likely a figment of your imagination, so.....

CF, i admire your honesty and i think its very cool.

Anyway, your comment about guys being gay makes girl more comftable, i think are somewhat true. My best friend is a metrosexual, and it could be because of the way he behaves that makes me comftable in talking about anything with him - and we do - especially sex. Sometimes when i relect back id think ''wow did we just talk about that'' He tells me what he does, and i do the same - its like - sex review sessions. Its great.

you're boyfriend is the exception, I have never known a guy who has any trouble saying "I jerk off 5 times a day". I know I have no trouble saying that, anyways.

i'm actually more of a cunning linguist

Clearly, not the point.

Thanks. I do not however think it's honesty. It's just reality.

Honesty would be me saying that I think of dick when I'm doing it.

actually, that was a shameless plug for my sig.

Ah! I got ya.

Cheers

Vagina is cool! If you're in to that sort of thing.

i am very much so... being a hetero-guy and all.

Excellent. Keep it up. The species depends on it.

We knew that though flirt1

i do my best

Knowledge is power though, you sexy bitc...

I squeezed one off at work today. It was a slow day, and that glamour magazine was very enticing. I feel sorry for the poor smoe who purchases that one. MAybe they will think it is just glue on page 17.

lol, i knew this would be a popular subject :P

Believe it CF! swank

And ragesRemorse, did you really have to share that with us - made me laugh though, i..dont know why. Maybe cos you decided to post that on the internet, or maybe cos you said it so calmly and openly and posted in on the internet.

No one has beaten my records! Slipknot couldn't even beat my second one. I feel special.

Did you know that the column, in ancient Greece, was a symbol of masculinity....a.k.a. the dick.....Dunno, thought that was interesting though....

Masturbation is a good thing. Well, thats as far as I can go. Can't make my comments go from rated X to rated PG13.

There's a darker side to masturbation, if you're a teenager. If you do it, you increase the amount of zits you have. Not sure exactly why, I just know that my biology teacher pointed to me after I confused the word masticate with masturbate and said that masturbation caused an increase in zits. So if you ever see a guy with a face covered in red blotches...

Could be that it increases the amount of hormones flowing through you. I'll ask to see what the cause is as soon as possible.

Yeah, and you also grow hair on your hands if you do it alot, and you could bo blind.

Yeah, Ytaker, I don't believe that for a second. They did however just release news saying if you masturbate more than 20 times a month you reduce your risk of prostate problems.

first sign right there, BF?

The worst thing that can happen to you from masterbating alot is getting really strong in one arm while staying relatively weak in the other.

Hell, I used to masterbate constantly (who am I kidding, I still do) and I never had a zit problem or anything.

Yeah zits depend more on your skin type and if you wash your fricking face.

I'm assuming when you say you "never had a zit problem" you mean that you were never self conscious about having zits because you were indoors jerking off 24/7 ?

Well....yeah, I was indoors wacking it 24/7...

But i never had zits.

I think this was the point this thread was somewhat ment to make - no girls are in here talking about how many times they do it and how often - its all guys.

Very true lil...well...break the trend.

Ermm... ok. Yep, I do it.

Psh, we already established that. We now need data, numbers, and a graph if at all possible.

"Shocking... Postively shocking "

James Bond, errrr... forgot the movie, but played by Sean Connery

Haha!!

It depends - sometimes i do it few days in a row, sometimes few times in a day, somemtimes i dont do it at all for few days. It depends really.

Well done.

Right on.

Never mind nonsense and claptrap. Post some stimuli.

I only wacked it 2 times today

Why oh why would you announce about....never mind.

k im a girl and i masturbate. and why would i say i dont when everyone would know im lying anyways. When u get older and start having sex tho girls dont really care anymore and dont lie about it.

I'll probably go 2 or 3 more times today

*violent twitching ensues*

What kind of twitching

the good kind droolio

*stands and clears throat* yes its true...im a woman and a masterbater......


*sits back down nervously*

clap sexeh shellie!!

wow, shellie I just cant picture you masturbating

....and if i put on an apron and go bake some cookies before i drive my daughters to Girl Scouts on Thursday nights.....


does that help any ?

I just wouldnt imagian you masturbating

interesting....can i ask why not ?

I dont know, you seem like such a proper person

Interesting - because I can't stop picturing her masturbating.

im feeling like singing all of a sudden....


... a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down....

I dont get it

edit, bitches!

Mary Poppins...
she's the queen of of "proper"...


oh...nevermind....

Seriously mane - post a chart on a website somewhere and link to it if you want people to know how often you manage to squeeze another dribble of fetid teenage goop into your hand - I dont want to hear it.

Shut the hell up for once, you shithead.

To us guys it's easier and quicker. We guys can pop out anywhere... ... while girls, well... need some extra space... if you get my handle on the issue. Most guys do it and don't admit it because some feel they're not MASTER OF THEIR DOMAIN if to quote Seinfeld. But I have to admit, "sex" is a stress reliever.

....... Not really sure I see the relevance, it may be a cultural thing but I must admit I can remember basically no conversation with guys or gals where it came up. But everyone is different. Some people are more comfortable talking about such things then others. Personally I don't think girls are dumb if they don't just blurt out they do it. In fact I don't expect it, and I don't really want to hear it from either sex, I guess some things should maybe be a bit more private or personal...

You're right, Imerial Samura. Masturbation is a very private thing between you and your hand. Sorry, I had to say that. But it's true. Some peopl are open and honest about it while others don't want it spoken. It's something personal you don't want strangers to know about you, and they might think you're a pervert for even doing such a thing. However, it's perfectly natural. Scientifically, it releases... tension. It's similar to hitting a punching bag, but instead you're releasing sexual tension. You just have to be responsible and be weary of where you do it.

Oh, I agree with what your saying, and I have no problem with it, I don't see it as unnatural or think its something terrible, or anything like that, just saying I can also understand how come people might deny it or just avoid it as a subject.

Awww...Mary poppins. thanks for the whacking material. she is so proper, it feels bad thinking about her gettin all dirty. I'll be right back

It's typical to experience a slowdown by the time you reach forty though boys.

there's a biological reason for it for men, it old semen in the prostate to be gotten rid of, including any carcinogens lurking around, and it is recognised if a guy ejaculates round 5 times a week there is a marked improvement in not getting prostate cancer later in life