The New Avengers

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SnakeEyes
i just bought/read issue one of this series and i am liking the way its going so far...

ScarletSpider
It's okay.

SnakeEyes
well, i am just really curious about Sentry and how Wolverine and Spidey will affect the team and all. I really have high hopes for it.

SpikeSpiegel
It just arrived, and compared to Dissassembled I thought it was really good.

ScarletSpider
Compared to Dissassembled how could it not be good?

Spidey has been an Avenger before, and with a new team that seems to have looser conotations, a revolving door to call in specialist superheros for missions that need it, I think he'll fit. With all the happenings in his life, he needs some stability anyways. For Wolverine, I'm hoping it's just about the next stage in his life. He's gotten no answers with the X-Men, why not try something else? The Sentry was the first and best hero in the Marvel Universe, he obviously has some problems to solve, but he's a good fit. I'm not concerned with how any of the characters fit in with the Avengers, I'm curious to see how the they interract with one another and make the team into the "World's Mightiest Heroes"

Blind-Enemy
i had the latest issue of Wizard magazine and Bendis said a couple of interesting things about how spidey will fit in the new avengers

Havoc470
yeah, i read that too, it sounds pretty interesting and i wonder how it'll come across in the comic

SnakeEyes
I love the way Spider-Man and Wolverine interact too, that should be interesting. I hope this series lives up to my expectations. It should though... I mean i am just so hyped up about the new lineup.

SnakeEyes
bump

SnakeEyes
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Mainstream
I think it's a great book.

SnakeEyes
Does anyone know anything about Sentry?

Ultimatespider
Not happy about spidey bein' on the team not at all!

Havoc470
you've probably checked this out already but its a good bio

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/sentry.htm

there was another good bio somewhere but i cant find it now

SnakeEyes
HOW COME?



And i actually forgot to check the marvel directory for sentry, thanks cool

Havoc470
no prob, i like the new avengers team, but i agree with some people on their dislike for certain members, mostly because bendis basically got HIS favorite characters and shoved them in there, i have a feeling that matt murdock is going to be the mysterious ninja guy....he has no eye holes, that would make way for a blind man

eleveninches
Nor me.

I HATE spiderman more than any other character.

I hate spiders, so with 2 of them on the new avengers team, i wont be reading it.

Nataku8188
Plus Bendis is gonna ruin Carnage, and pretty much do wahtever he wants. Because hes an ass.

K3VIL
Sentry

Another Superman like character.Superstrenght, Superspeed, invulnerability, light manipulation.His costume looks cool, but he reminds me too much to the Man Of Steel.I prefer Hyperion in that way.
He's a must for a team like this because he's the powerhouse, he's what Thor was when he was in life.

Capitan America

The veteran, the leader, the older, the one with more battle experience, how u cannot put him in an avengers formation?I hope they would make a little bastard as the Ultimate Universe Cap.Anyway boyscout or not a great character

Iron Man

Actually his armor grant him Class 100 Strenght, he's the second slugfest man in the group, and will all his device, his money, his intelligence Tony Stark is a must for the Avengers as Cap

Wolverine

He appears on hiw own comic book, on X-Men, on X-Treme X-Men, put him into Fantastic Four and Defenders and he has been in every Marvel group.How can he be an avenger, he that is the killer, the berserker?
Maybe Logan is going to become less enraged and and more quiet?Maybe he would become a great Avenger?Just check what will happen

Spider-Man

I was waiting for this, finally Spidey become totally an Avenger, with his battle experience, as his combat skill and powers he's a great addiction, yes only Class 10/15 but he has show that he's able to give a run for their money and even defeat strongest opponents.
I would like if he asks Stark to rebuilt the Spider-Armor he use VS the Enforcer second incarnation, cause wear spandex costume doesn't give protection.Wolverine regenerate, IM has great invulnerability, Sentry is in Thor resistance to injury level, Cap wears body Armor and

Luke Cage

The near invulnerable guy, the Power Man, he can regenarate, he possess Class 20 or more strenght, he has experience.He's a good choice, cause now they will show that Cage is also a hero not only a hero for hire

The guy with the green and yellow costume

Is he Iron Fist?

Spider Woman

Another being with Spider powers, maybe she would fall in love with the wall crawler?

Hercules

Why he's not in the team, a demigod character in absence of Thor and Wonderman would be a good choice, with his strenght he could be a great addiction and also he's fun to see someone that wipe the floor with criminals and create songs about that

Anyway this team looks nice, but the Busiek and Perez Avengers, with Thor, Cap, IM, Giant Man, Black Panther, Hercules, Wasp, etc. are unbeatable

P.S. With only Sentry and IM as powerhouses this team his less powerful, yes this would mean great battles with sacrifices and heroes that take their powers at the limit, but it would mean they get defeat more times.

KharmaDog
No Vision in the new avengers?

ScarletSpider
He went to the big harddrive in the sky.

Havoc470
i think you should really read about the character before you start judging

Havoc470
veteran? no, leader? yes, older? no, the most battle experience? no, but he is the obvious choice to lead the avengers team, and he is one great character...i mean this as in comparing him to other team members, but he does have all those characteristics to a certain extent


true, he is in alot of comics, definitely not the first character to be glorified to such an extent, but he is the first to be criticized for it, bendis stated in an interview that wolvie has a good reason to join the avengers, we'll just have to wait and see what that is


he's a mystery character, i think he's DD because matt was the only one in the first issue that wasnt stated to be on the avengers team, and the suit has no eye-holes so i think its murdock, unless bendis did it on purpose to misslead


not really, spiderman has fought a good number of his enemies at once and held his ground, wolvie has always fought characters stronger than him, luke and spiderwoman have seen some sh*t, sentry is the powerhouse of powerhouses and he could be used real well in this comic, DD (if he is the mystery character) has had his share of enemies and battles, cap and ironman.....'nuff said

ScarletSpider
He is certainly older an more experienced than most of them. As he's been around since the start of the modern super hero age, so he's been operating for roughly 10 years Marvel time. And served throughout WWII before that, he's seen more action and has more contacts than any of them. Though some people, writers, and even Rogers himself tries to pass off the image of "I've been fighting the good fight since the 40's" Which is why Thin Man is such a favorite of mine "Shut up Rogers, you spent more years on ice than you ever did fighting the good fight"



Citizen V's suit has no eye holes, yet he isn't a blind guy. It could just be some weird transparent mask/helmet thing. Or it could very well be Daredevil, this stuff can turn either way.

SnakeEyes
thought i'd post some pics cool

SnakeEyes
one more

eleveninches
He might have been active DURING ww2, but he was frozen in ice for decades, so he doesnt really have all that much experience, compared to wolverine who has been fighting for centuries

GreatMuta
Well i cannot wait for the new avengers to "officially" get underway.

I personally would like to see vision back.....they can re-build him better....stronger.....and faster....or something like that. Not so sure about Spiderman on the team (he screams Loner) Much like wolverine although i am almost sick of seeing him in EVERY DAMN COMIC! The banter between the two of them should prove intersting, much like in secret war. Sentry is a semi-fresh face, lots of potential there. Spider woman, well i always liked her for this team however....2 spiders seems a little redundant. Power man has been on the bench for far too long. I'm glad they are given a brother another chance cuz he is a complete bad ass!!! Iron man well ...it's Iron man. Captain America is the flag bearer (no pun intended) for the group and seems the most natural fit.

I would of liked to see:
Heracules, Vision, Dr. Strange or Wonderman on the squad. Well lets's all hope for a strong Avengers run this time around!!

K3VIL
Havoc you're right, Wolvie possess more experience, but about Sentry you're wrong, i know that he's not an alien and his cells were in a advanced time state, but he's anyway a Supes like guy.
Big Cape.
Super Strenght.
Super Speed.
Light Manipulation, that reminds solar energy storing abilities.

ScarletSpider
Next time, read my ENTIRE post, as I pointed that exact point out myself.

theflyxx
I'm liking the New Avengers. I want to see the team dynamic and see how guys like Spidey and Wolverine interact with Cap and Iron Man.

SnakeEyes
same here

Ultimatespider
I just think Spider-man works better when he's on his own. I hate the fact that he and wolverine are on the team!!!! I HATE THE FACT THAT THE ORGINAL AVENGERS DISBANDED !!!! I HATE THE FACT THAT BENDIS IS WRITING THIS BOOK!!!!! He's killing mad! everyone will be dead in 2 months!!!!! DAMN!

Havoc470
he's killed off vision, hawkeye, and ant-man......no others come to mind atm

Havoc470
light manipulation isnt one of supermans feats, the solar energy thing is...but just because he has super speed, super strength, and a cape doesnt make him a superman rip off....i mean, doesnt shazam have those exact same features? im differing from my point though, his history definitely makes him stand out of the crowd and thats what interests me the most

Ultimatespider
OH MY GOD!!!!!

BENDIS KILLED CARNAGE!!!! WHAT A FU CKER!!!! I CANNOT BELIVE THIS!!!!! AFTER KILLING GWEN BEAST ANT-MAN AND VISION WHERE DOSE THIS ASS HOLE GET THE GUTS TO KILL CARNAGE!!!!!! I WAS ENJOYING THE NEW AVENGERS BUT I WON'T BE READING IT NO-MORE!!!!! (I'm still gonna get Ultimate Spider-man tough i cant wait for hobby!!!)

Mainstream
Harry gonna be Hobby sounds interesting.

Ultimatespider
Yeah it dose sound cool! big grin

But what about carnage! Are you guys as pissed off as i am! and i'm PRETTY PISSED OFF!!!! mad mad mad mad mad

Tron
No, not really.no expression

I doubt Carnage is actually dead, or will stay dead, anyway.

Mainstream
Carnage will return..the dude never down for long.-

Ultimatespider
I hope.... OH GOD I HOPE! You guys are right. Besides carnage will live on in Toxin and the New venom is kinda cool. Maybe i will continue reading new avengers!

ScarletSpider
It's not like Carnage was really interesting anymore. A psychotic killer with an alien symbiote. We had enough of him in Maximum Carnage. I hope he does stay dead, after all he was ripped in half...in space, and his pieces thrown in opposite directions.

Draco69
Never liked Carnage. The Ultimate Carnage was interesting though.

K3VIL
Carnage got:
Ripped in half, throwed into deep space.How can he survive that?He can't.Onestly he was a failed character.Maximum Carnage as said above was fun, but that's all.The plots of his apperances are always the same.He escape from some prison and starts to kill civilians just for fun then the heroes come in and save the day.He's a sociopath with superpowers.Not like BullsEye, a freaking sociopath mercenary killer with great combat skills adamantium skeletons and a faboulus costume big grin

SnakeEyes
When does issue three come out and what exactly is the first story arc gonna be about, besides the new avengers forming.

Ultimatespider
Its about this Breakout thing, with electro. And the next issue is out now!!!

DIE SENTRY DIE!!!

Ultimatespider
KILL SENTRY chair

ScarletSpider
Why? He seems to be the only one on the team with any balls. "Can't kill the badguys, that would be bad! Can't grow facial hair, that would be bad!"

SnakeEyes
I would say that Wolvie has balls too though

DarkCrawler
And Luke Cage.

ScarletSpider
Luke does, but by the end of this run, he'll be a dead cyborg asian/phillipino woman. Wolverine's just a sack of overused shit.

Ultimatespider
I suppose i meant kill bendis, but didn't say it coz i enjoy USM (Ultimate Spider-man for anyone who don't understand abbreviations)

Ultimatespider
I loved Carnage!!! I suppose he was never used to his full potential by writers but i still liked him! He was a very scary charecter confused

SnakeEyes
Well, in issue three, which i just read, they did not talk about Sentry or the fate of Carnage, so in that aspect, i was somewhat dissapointed. I hope they will explain what happened to em. Good issue though...
Does anyone know when Wolverine joins the team, and will DD?

SnakeEyes
BUMP

SnakeEyes
Who do u guys think Spider-Woman is working for!?!?

Sentry
Carnage got what he deserved. Sentry is the man.!

Havoc470
i knew someone was gonna come in with a sentry s/n sooner or later....

snake-eyes, i have no clue who she could be working for....although it doesnt seem like she works for these people as much as its something else, thats one of the things i like about bendis bringing in these characters, theres nothing to suspect so youre left completely in the dark

as for murdock, he was talking about not joining the team because of his reputation as daredevil, so he probably changes his costume up (the mystery character) so he'll avoid having daredevil affiliated with the new avengers

SnakeEyes
^^^
Ahhh, i should have thought of that. I hope DD joins though...

Havoc470
as opposed to spiderman, captain america and ironman roll eyes (sarcastic)

ScarletSpider
Oh, those three are overused, but the only one who comes close to Wolverine's level is Spider-Man. Wolverine appears in 4 monthly books, now 5 with New Avengers. Spider-Man appears in 3, and Spectacular is ending in time for him to join NA so it stays at 3. Ironman appears in 2. Cap appeared in 3, but they ended Cap and Falcon.

SnakeEyes
BUMP

yahman
Has the Sentry saga thing happend yet?

Is he joining the New Avengers?

Has he done anything impressive, apart from the carnage thing? I mean in Neww Avengers?

Mainstream
Sentry storyline just started....I think I got part 1...but I think part 2 comes out weds. yous want I should steal ya a copy? mafia2

yahman
Originally posted by Mainstream
Sentry storyline just started....I think I got part 1...but I think part 2 comes out weds. yous want I should steal ya a copy? mafia2 big grin

Mainstream
well boss you want I should get yous a copy? mafia2

Scoobless
Originally posted by eleveninches
Nor me.

I HATE spiderman more than any other character.

I hate spiders, so with 2 of them on the new avengers team, i wont be reading it.

please explain why you hate Spider-Man... or are you just one of those "anti-fanboys" that use about as much logic as actual fanboys..... but for hating?
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Compared to Dissassembled how could it not be good?

you didn't like disassembled?.. i thought it was alright

willRules
Originally posted by Scoobless
please explain why you hate Spider-Man... or are you just one of those "anti-fanboys" that use about as much logic as actual fanboys..... but for hating?


you didn't like disassembled?.. i thought it was alright

Im probably one of the few who actually enjoyed it. "sigh" oh well...................

Spiderkid515
havnt read it but it looks cool nice team though

SnakeEyes
There seems to be tons of people on KMC who really dislike the New Avengers series so far, but I think its pretty cool.

ScarletSpider
I did not like Disassembled. It was shoddily constructed, poorly written and poorly edited, just crappily updating old storylines. Wanda going nuts? It's happened before. Bendis is a death monger, the losses in that book had no meaning.

Marvel should have paid Johns a little more to keep him on board. His run was off to a shaky start, but it was getting good, and he had a vested interest in the characters, unlike Bendis who's writing resembles an 8 year olds fanfiction.

"Mom! Mom! Don'tcha think it would be cool if one of the Avengers went all crazy? And then every Avenger ever had to come and stand around doing nothing? Then the Kree attacked! And Dr. Strange came! And then Magneto!"

I also don't like his New Avengers, either. Relying on shock and faux badass to hook readers. Oh, Spider-Woman...damn you fine, cuz I'm black, dats how I talk, get outta my grillll. OMGOMGOMG Paul Jenkins! He put the guy who created the Sentry into the story so now they don't know who the Sentry is, isn't that so cool!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMG.

Nataku8188
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
I did not like Disassembled. It was shoddily constructed, poorly written and poorly edited, just crappily updating old storylines. Wanda going nuts? It's happened before. Bendis is a death monger, the losses in that book had no meaning.

Marvel should have paid Johns a little more to keep him on board. His run was off to a shaky start, but it was getting good, and he had a vested interest in the characters, unlike Bendis who's writing resembles an 8 year olds fanfiction.

"Mom! Mom! Don'tcha think it would be cool if one of the Avengers went all crazy? And then every Avenger ever had to come and stand around doing nothing? Then the Kree attacked! And Dr. Strange came! And then Magneto!"

I also don't like his New Avengers, either. Relying on shock and faux badass to hook readers. Oh, Spider-Woman...damn you fine, cuz I'm black, dats how I talk, get outta my grillll. OMGOMGOMG Paul Jenkins! He put the guy who created the Sentry into the story so now they don't know who the Sentry is, isn't that so cool!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMG.

Bendis just got owned.

CorderaMitchell
Dont hate on carnage, and wolverine is overrated and overused.

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