are writers at Marvel changing guard?

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dami wilson
Today's writers are changing with the signs of the Times. Fair and square but has old Peter Parker gone better or worse?

Thanks. I dont mean to bash people, it's just that when you read comics these days and check the story lines, it's like ............ nough said. I do like both wolverine and spidey n feel this sadness for the hulk. I'm a part time body builder and have had people scared of my size when I meant no harm at all. Over the years, certain characters have gotten bigger and in the superhero sense it's the super human powers that make us want to read about them. Sure spiderman is more human by having his fair share of human problems but it seems he's getting too many too much. He's marraige's broken down! He lost a good job at a lab, he gets vertulos or whatever that allows him to go giddy at the worst possible times (like in the middle of a fight). He keeps meeting super villains that can touch him. OH YEAH, AFTER ALL HE DOES TO FIND HE'S WIFE AFTER HAVING THAT SUPERNATURAL FAITH THAT SHE WAS STILL ALIVE AFTER THE PLANE CRASH, SHE LEAVES HIM!!!!! DOH, yeah, he's got this responsibility problem but hey, when you make a commitment to get married, then you cant keep letting your greatest love down no matter who you are!!!!!!!!!!!

WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY COMES GREAT POWERS, same for marriage cos you're commiting yourself to one person more than anybody else.

I hope this doesn't mean I'm putting down the writers cos they're doing a good job. it's just man, the story telliing's gone wicked!!!!!!!! The green goblin coming back into Peter's life and finding out about his identity stuff. Then the alien stuff that looked like MEN IN BLACK. I
just wanted to let it be known READING ABOUT MY FAVORITE SUPER HERO TAKING SO MANY HITS CAN AFFECT PEOPLE LIKE ME!!!!!
SADNESS UPON SADNESS UPON? Comics are to be fun you know!
Hope I'm not sounding melodramatic here but comics are supposed to be feel good factors like when you go to the movies, it's an escape route to the world of fantasy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, when I read stuff that's a bit too sad about my favorite super hero, it gets to people like me and that's where the writers dont get it! I'm not out to discredit them but hey
there are some of us out there where life's a bit bitchy at times and when you want to buy a comic which I do regularly apart from novels, the story can lift you up or get you down more. Am I getting through to you? Not out to diss anybody but I thought this was a chat line about superheros.

Some people think it's childish to read Marvel comic at my age, in my 30's and thats ok. I'm a writer and actore and love staying with Marvel dom as they are a great bunch of people!!!! Now making superb films that make DC films look very childish. I always thought DC was for kids anyway cus the story point. I wish evrybody a good year and thanks for taking time out to read my mail. It's biz nothing personal! Word Up!

lukester
Don't worry I'm 19 and I read comics.

Anyway, I have noticed that JMS has/will use alot more supernatural beings, rather than old school villains. Howard Mackie was an ok writer, but got silly towards the end of this run. JMS had been writing for about 4 years now, and in England we've only just started getting his work (via ASTONISHING SPIDER-MAN). Basically, with the exception of the GWEN STACY CHILDREN saga, JMS's work is based on the supernatural.

Spider-Devil
yeh but you should be able to find a comic book shop somewhere nearby? to be honest i dont know of any in oxford.

fatcat22
i know a great place in leeds near the Headrow where they sell great comics of all sorts! it's cool for comic lovers of all ages. True writers change and all things rearrange but life moves on! Wouldn't it be cool for spiderman to have a child witrh Mary J who (GUESS WHAT?) develops spiderman's powers and all of a sudden, spiderman has more responsibilities (looking after his kid and keeping him from trouble since the kid can swing man!) HEY THAT WOULS BE SO COOL!

jango fatt
That already happened in the spidergirl series.

BlackC@t
Yeah, Peter and MJ do have a daughter called May Parker and around her teenage years she begins to develope Peter abilities, thus becoming Spider-Girl.

dami wilson what are you getting at? confused

Spider-Devil
technically, but we never did find what happened to her in the regular marvel universe

BlackC@t
Yeah, I'd like to know that.

dami wilson
what am I getting at? I want spidey to be a loverman! Its missing in his life and man he needs MJ so much. Why cant a love scene be put in? We need a change like love and basically just thinking he needs more wack story lines and maybe twins would do.
Yeah, come to think of it, I have read that story where he has a daugther but thats in the future, way in the future. I want it to like happen now, maybe MJ finds she's pregnant and that makes her return to Peter and then we can have more story angles like Pete being predatory to anyone trying to hurt his kids!!!

Maybe the new film could do that. Bring something animalistic out of Spiderman where he says 'screw this, I'm gonna bust arse if some dude tries to iinfringe on my kids' yuk yuk yuk!!!!! WE NEED A NEW SPIDEY!

fatcat22
I dont think they want spidey to be a cat! You know a swinging cat like most cool cats are! Hey blackcat, are you really female? I'd like us to swing on the roof tops and shout our vocals off till day break!

Dazzler619
Yes Marvel is changing Peter/Spidey a lot these days

dami wilson
ALOT IS AN UNDERESTIMATE! They're still keeping him as a teenager while other heros have aged! Even Thor has a huge beard and seems to have aged 20 or 30 years. Everyboy except Peter as if he will never develop! Hence, this teenage adolecense stuff which makes him take a lot of stick.

Why do they have to be perfect though? Hmmm, he's so much in love, they'd have had a baby by now or something of the sort.

pr1983
marvel knights have changed him... he's older now...

fatcat22
well thats good. How about making him get rich and fat? FAT CATS RULE!

Spiderman_RJ
i know exactlty what u mean, that why i quit reading spiderman, its like old movies, that if i see again ill think they are crap, i dont see anymore, and keep of it my sweet memorys...
spiderman is the man...........and the gwen /~norman stuff to me never happened, thats all cool

dami wilson
dude that was a cool thread you posted as a reply! Keep it up and more guys will come back! That's for sure, when you shell out this much for comics per year it's good to have writers know its not just business when they turn out just any kind of story! It can be personal too!

Spidey's like my best friend in comic books!

MKL93
I don't think what you said about sadness upon sadness for Peter is true. Sure, Howard Mackie did it his cringe-worthy run on the Spidey comics but now that JMS hs taken over Amazing and Millar is writing Marvel Knights, Spidey is fun again! He's not extremely depressed anymore. I'm loving the Spidey books at the moment.

Spiderman_RJ
youre lucky, then, marvel knight dont ships on my contry due to some stupid contract..........

dami wilson
I just wish they'd stop trying to make peter this sad freak who has more troubles than even the Hulk has ever had! Is that supposed to make me like him more? Duh, I dont think so! Please stop making him the jackass of all villains! Like the point where he developed vertigo just when he was about to fall of an edge or fighting his best enemy or some sh.t like that! Darn! Give the dude a piece of mind! He rescues his wife who in the end leaves him? Cus she got to sort her life out?

How many heroes go thru that? Maybe superman but why hasn't Richard Reeds, mr stretch go thru that with susan (invincible woman) or any of the other heroes? Trying to make peter human to us all isn't to always make him feel oppressed! Beaten up to a pulp or some stuff like that! It's so common whenever I buy the comic I know he's gonna get his butt whooped and flip to the back page to know if he survives! Gosh, its like buying a rocky or rambo comic knowing 80% of the comic is how the dude gets wiped on the floor . gees!

doctorstrongbad
Hey spiderman is a great hero no matter who writes him, and that is saying a lot with his writers.

#1Rupert_Lover
I know what you mean! Spidey has gotten beaten up a lot, lately. though I think it gives it more suspense. it took me a while to figure out what you meant by the word 'wicked'. for a second I thought it meant wicked as in cool. then i realized it was the real meaning of wicked. laughing out loud and don't worry about what other people think about reading comics at your age. I have an uncle who has a whole collection of comicbooks. that just proves that you can never be too old for kids stuff. big grin

doctorstrongbad
Yeah anybody can read comics there is no age restriction.

dami wilson
thanks guys! Its good to know there are people like you around! Gosh, I thought I was going nuts. Like going to look at Porn or buy them! Yeesh!

doctorstrongbad
I hope to be reading comics when I am older.

#1Rupert_Lover
Yeah, me too. big grin

doctorstrongbad
Yep yep if I ever get married and my wife doesn't like it its too bad. I'm still going to read them. I think it would be cool to be old and still hit the arcade and play video games. :0

#1Rupert_Lover
laughing out loud I agree with you on that one. That kind of stuff seems to never get old. big grin

BlackC@t
They've kept the essence of Peter true to the comics.

But they've changed him a little.

They would've had to, his character from the comics was designed to be a typical teenager of the 60's.

They would've had to have changed it to fit the times.

doctorstrongbad
Kids have to be able to relate to Peter. He will always be the classic nerd who gets the chance to stand up for himself.

dami wilson
well has anyone read the new spiderman mag? MJ's jealous of the crazy woman who accusses Peter on CNN of cheating on her and it seems they do read our emails!

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doctorstrongbad
Maybe they do. We should start making up crazy ideas and see if they copy us.

#1Rupert_Lover
Yeah, that would be enjoyable.

dami wilson
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
....no comment on that one! 'You dont want to make me angry, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...you wont like me when I get angry!'

I wish they'd make Peter Parker more likr the Hulk, where he freaks out at one stage and becomes insane and incredibly stronger than normal self! This freaks him out in the end and he decides to hang up his boots as spidey till he could sort his new powers out.

Th rampaging Incredible Spidey Hulk! That'd make a crazy four part series. i THOUGHT THAT STORY WOULD BLOW PEOPLE'S MIND OUT.
A peter Parker that actually freaks out and grows ten times stronger than normal!

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by dami wilson
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
....no comment on that one! 'You dont want to make me angry, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...you wont like me when I get angry!'

I wish they'd make Peter Parker more likr the Hulk, where he freaks out at one stage and becomes insane and incredibly stronger than normal self! This freaks him out in the end and he decides to hang up his boots as spidey till he could sort his new powers out.

Th rampaging Incredible Spidey Hulk! That'd make a crazy four part series. i THOUGHT THAT STORY WOULD BLOW PEOPLE'S MIND OUT.
A peter Parker that actually freaks out and grows ten times stronger than normal!

Okay now this is a crazy idea. Good job. smile I think he should become blind and start a new career as a lawyer. They could call him dare Spider. Okay I need to stop. lol

#1Rupert_Lover
laughing out loud

#1Rupert_Lover
I guess that's what they mean by Spider-Man being the 'Superhero who could be anyone.' big grin

doctorstrongbad
Its true. smile

#1Rupert_Lover
So he's DareSpider-Hulk, now. Wow. what a tongue twister. stick out tongue

dami wilson
gRRRRRRRR \or is that Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! Making me angry now!

doctorstrongbad
Wow at least we are keeping him on the marvel side of the street. The first person to say "bat- spider" is going to lose. hehe

#1Rupert_Lover
laughing out loud

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Wow at least we are keeping him on the marvel side of the street. The first person to say "bat- spider" is going to lose. hehe

Yeah that was funny. I'm surprised nobody thought of that before I did.

dami wilson
Super spider Hulk dare.............coming to you soon. Tha amazing super incredible hulky spiderman Dare angel. One heck of a super dude folks, faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a nuclear powered locomotive and blind because his mask wont let him see through it's eye patch. Incredible to believe? Try it!

Reborn Again
You've gotta change with the times, and listen to your readers, otherwise you'll lose them.

#1Rupert_Lover
blink um okay.

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by dami wilson
Super spider Hulk dare.............coming to you soon. Tha amazing super incredible hulky spiderman Dare angel. One heck of a super dude folks, faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a nuclear powered locomotive and blind because his mask wont let him see through it's eye patch. Incredible to believe? Try it!

Now do you think this would make spiderman too powerful? Well compare his the superman. Nope spiderman still needs more power to compare to that uber cheesy guy. smile

#1Rupert_Lover
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Now do you think this would make spiderman too powerful? Well compare his the superman. Nope spiderman still needs more power to compare to that uber cheesy guy. smile
laughing out loud

doctorstrongbad
Hey I calls it like i see it. smile

#1Rupert_Lover
Yeah. he especially has a cheesy costume.

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Yeah. he especially has a cheesy costume.

I heard he tried to make his costume out of cheese once. hehe smile

dami wilson
WHO ? WHAT? HOW? CHEESE COSTUME? Are we talking about Peter Parker in the films? I was joking about spidey being the hero that could be anybody. Basically, I just want him to have a mean attitude n develop!

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by dami wilson
WHO ? WHAT? HOW? CHEESE COSTUME? Are we talking about Peter Parker in the films? I was joking about spidey being the hero that could be anybody. Basically, I just want him to have a mean attitude n develop!

No we are making fun of Superman. We tried to give spiderman every power but superman was still stronger. lol

dami wilson
I see.......................me no speaka english, anglais, I see. Supaman!
Yeah, you're right , he too too strong but some dude (wolverine8888?)says wolverine can beat him to a pulp with adamantum! Me get adamantum soon!
Me then stronger than superman! Me no know! Me sorry!
eek! eek! eek! laughing out loud laughing rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing eek! me so sorry!

doctorstrongbad
Originally posted by dami wilson
I see.......................me no speaka english, anglais, I see. Supaman!
Yeah, you're right , he too too strong but some dude (wolverine8888?)says wolverine can beat him to a pulp with adamantum! Me get adamantum soon!
Me then stronger than superman! Me no know! Me sorry!
eek! eek! eek! laughing out loud laughing rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing eek! me so sorry!

That could work. hehe

dami wilson
I just wonder what the old writers would have written? Has it ever occured to Marvel and DC that they should tell the current writers to write stuff for the future and kep it locked up for like five or ten years and then other writers can pick it up.

It'd be diff but carry on with their thinking and writing direction. Any arguments?

fatcat22
who cares what they would have written, spidey's back with his gal!

fatcat22
that means his back with love and sunshine! Thats the beaut of Peter Parker! Go spidey go!

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