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I just been watching Saving Private Ryan a excellent film filled with hope.

Even if i have seen the film alot of times this is the first time it made me cry cry

I would also like to thank all the men and women who are fighting for us in Iraq evn if i don't agree with the war my strenght goes out to them.

keep it about the movie, NOT iraq!

nope i just pointing out my views becaasuse the it effected the way i watched the movie.

go a problem so what tell a mod

it's a MOVIE DISCUSSION section, please stick to a movie than
as far as I wrong, there is not a movie made of the second gulf war

ok not your problem

first of THIS MOVIE brought out memories of Iraq

I was discussing my FEELINGS of how the movie went.

nice, but your feelings have no place here

yeah i bit where does it say on the rules that i can't express my feelings.

This thread was meant about the movie Saving Private Ryan and how people felt after watching the film.

yes, and with iraq you're getting too close to politics, and particulary that topic is very touchy

hey i was not talking about politics

and please yo uare not a mod

got a problem call a mod

I don't have a phonenumber of one

you weren't no, but you mentioned Iraq and sooner or later another member is bound to pick in on that and we're off to some trollingmatches again, I'm just trying to help out y'know

ok then i dont want to get into a fight with you mate i normally respect your views but this time i have to disagree with them

lets leave it at that

and i hope people can talk about the film now

sure; I disliked it

why

stupid story, just to make another warmovie, nothing really new.
just like there being numerous other less famous warmovies about the same

why is it stupid

i mean i loved the story

because WW2 actually happned and people died
so i think it remindined modern people about war and how its not a game and that people really do die

the story of getting a guy out of the war cause some brothers of his died

yes

Technically, the "Jessica Lynch" made for television movie. No need to rip him a new one, he was just saying thanks as an aside, and not to start a conversation in regards to the war.

Anywho. "Saving Private Ryan" is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's an original, superbly accurate war movie, filled with A-listers and cameos. I don't know of many people who enjoy war movies who didn't like this one. They are actually re-releasing the DVD in a set with 3 other WW2 Spielberg documentary movies.

I love all his war related work, and "Schindler's List" will be makng it to my DVD rack come Tuesday.

The movie is ok IMO, its has good moments but its waaaay to long for the story it has.Yes going in to the heat of the war to get 1 guy is pretty stupid

saving private ryan is one of the best and most created movie of all time. It had one of the best stories and most of all the most realistic movie of all time. If Lord of the Rings was not made into a movie this would be my favorite movie although its my second and yerrsot or whatever u dont no jack about war and its time. so i disagree with u there

kes u dont no ne war either

wow, that's pretty .... retarded to jump to such conclusions
I don't know anything about WWII? claiming that without having talked to me, good job mate, really

if you claim it has a good story, you obviously have watched the wrong movie

hte movie has good parts, but over all it is pretty standard

Why are so naive as to think that just because you have a differing opinion, that you're right? Honestly.

Ignorance is bliss, right?

SVP's story is actually very original. You claim to know about wars in general, correct, yet you say that a story about a platoon that is assigned to find one man is stupid?

You do know that it is standard G.I. tact to honorably discharge any enlisted Armed Forces member, should any member of their family be enlisted and reported as M.I.A., P.O.W., or K.I.A./K.I.C.?

How is this a "dumb story". It's original, it's played out masterfully, well cast, and it's without a doubt one of the most REALISTIC war movies ever made. Realism being the driving point here.

While I will respect the fact that you didn't enjoy the movie, I don't respect your reasoning, which to most of us, seems quite empty as a matter of fact.

you read me wrong... or I expressed myself wrong

Yes, I think the story behind it is completely retarded in the sense of making a movie for it. That's pretty standard and even dull and boring to me

I never claimed I'm quite the expert on wars or warmovies, I reacted to cgtuna's rather ...weird way of thinking. And I think that what you said with applies more to him

Well, the story is original and theres no disputing that because there are no other movies like it that can match neither the realism, the re-creational granduer, or the acting that's in SVP.

Platoon is actually more accurate and more truthful in it's showing of the war portrayed in the film. I think saving private ryan is vastly over rated, the only truley strong part of that film is the opening D-Day scene, everything else is basically mediocre and even bad (the storyline is too unbelievable for my tastes).

Plus, it glorifies the war it portrays, it makes it seem exciting and almost fun. I remember alot of my friends having a discussion a few years ago about what character they thing would be the most fun to live as and what not. Shows how the movie failed in portraying the war in a tragic light, which is how war should be portrayed, and only a couple of films has achieved this...SPR was not one of them.

Im sorry BackFire but I disagree with you. Saving private Ryan is not overrated. Spielbierg shot the film very good. He studied war documentaries of war for the movie shots. Like the battle in Omaha beach seem very well done. it gave the audience the feeling of being in battle front. Very similar to Black Hawk down with the moving of the camera.

I like Saving private Ryan because even though the storyline seems silly. You have to remenber that Ryan is the LAST of the brothers to survive. Im not sure but I think the military doesn not allowed surviving familily members to continue on battle. Since the other two die and Ryan is the last surviving member he has to live in order to continue his family blood line to continue. It sounds weird, but I felt for the storyline.

Besides I love Tom Hanks! He is just a great actor!

As I said, the first scene is outstanding, but the rest of the film is nothing special or new. It just failed to show the war in a tragic light, and ended up making it seem exciting. Also, Black Hawk Down is a terrible, repetitive, and boring film.

The storyline is indeed silly, and pretty much nonsense. Even if there was a situation like the one portrayed in the film, they would not risk the lives of 6 men to save one, it just wouldn't happen. They just used it as a cheesy way to portray "brotherhood" and "comradery". It was too unbelieveable and took alot away from the film in my eyes.

Like I said, SPR is a mediocre war film, it had good production values, good acting, and good directing with one scene that carried the whole film. There are better war films though.

that's the least he could do y'know

everyone knows that the opening scene -Landing at Omaha Beach- carries the entire movie.

exactly Fire i agree with you. but there a lot of good war movies, that portray real war. Fog of was is the good one. Black Hawk Down is ok but not good. and many many more.

I like Black Hawk Down, SVP, Platoon, Pearl Harbor, and We Were Soldiers all the same.

Windtalkers was garbage, and that said, I don't think there has been a better film in the past 2 decades than SVP.

You want real war movies, you have to go back a few decades. Sands of Iwo Jima, Patton, Tora!Tora!Tora!, Bridge over the River Kwai, Casablanca, Paths of Glory, Where Eagles Dare, etc.

My comment has absolutely nothing to do with my knowledge of war (which by the way I spend 12 years and some change learning).
The story is lame. The opening scene is awesome, its probably 1 of the best opening scenes ever, but the story is lame and the movie is way to long.
Oh and has for war movies it is rare the portuguese movie that is not about or involves in same way the colonial wars. Do you know what that is??

Yes, I think in time that the only thing this moviue will be really remembered for is the opening scene.

The Longest Day has a far more objective and timeless quality to it.

Platoon is a very very real war movie, the most realistic ever made.

It didn't do much for me personally. If anything, it would go down in history for the overabundance of the word "**********".

BTW, "Tigerland" is another one I'd like to add to my list.

It already went down in history for being the most accurate portrayal of the Vietnam war, every veteran you talk too will recognize this film as the most realisitic, probably because the director (oliver stone) was actually there, and experienced everything that happened in the movie.

It shows how war can turn a man into a beat like no other film has ever been able too.

But I would put Das Boot as more realistic than Platoon.

Well they deal with completely different aspects of war, Das Boot doesn't really have any man to man combat in the way that Platoon does.

But yeah, Das Boot is indeed very realistic in the aspects it does deal with. However, Platoon is equally realistic as well.

platoon was a good 80 film. but this is a saving private ryan thread

BackFire I see your point. But I dont think that Platton was a good illustration of Vietnam. Maybe in the battle front but not as a war as whole. For a better war film about Vietnam I think that Apocalyse now is much more better. Also The Killing Fields is a good movie that portrays the cruilty of the Vietnam war. The story is also much more captivating. After all it is based on true events that happen to those journalist during the war.

Apocolypse Now suffers from the same problem as SPR does, silly storiline. Platoon is the only film that is realistic in every possible way.

Well Ush The Longest Day is one of the best historical movies ever made about WW2.

I agree Windtalkers look so good, and so original, but that movie was a disaster! I was really looking forward to it. I blame Nicholas Cage for butchering what could been a great film. For me SPV was okay.

I much prefer war movies like The Dirty Dozen, The great Escape, Kelly's heroes, and Hamburger Hill.

Apocalypse Now was based on Heart of Darkness and so it was never meant to have a 100% realistic plot; it probably should not be compared as a pure war movie to others.

Of course, Platoon and Das Boot are realistic for the same reasons...

I liked Saving Private Ryan. I thought i was a really good film.
But thats just my opinion

The reason they went to get "Ryan" is purely a propaganda move. Once people found out that people died to save a brother from death, people would believe in the war...and it would make the United States Army look very good. And by the way, a group of brothers dying did actually happen.

That's true, but I still think it was general G.I. tact to go on search and rescues for last surviving enlistees of families.

I suppose I hope that it's(or was) general tact to go on special missions like that. I thought the movie did a nice job of portraying the soldiers' frustration of their mission while they were searching for Ryan. It must have been tough to complete a mission that really strayed from the real purpose of why they were there.

I actually liked the movie a lot.

I like platton alot BackFire. But didnt you think that Marlon Brandon and Martin Sheen performances were good? I love the dialogues they are good! And the suspence near the end was fantastic! dont you agree that both actors had great performance?

Lawrence fishburn, Duvall also had great performances dont you think those should count in as well? The performances made Apocolypse Now a great film.

the movie sucked, it made the germans seem like pussies. I would like for steven to explain to me how the germans conquered much of europe, much of north africa, and went all the way to the gates of Moscow but could not defeat 30 american soldiers when the germans had about 500 soldiers and tanks. His band of brothers show is equally retarded. He is racist towards germans, it is as simple as that.

exqueeze me?
you wanted the heros to be shot dead after two feet? than you wont have a movie

I am sorry, but Band of Brothers is awesome, pure cinematic genious... Watch it when it comes on TV this April if you don't have the DVD's, it is great

Well, they did conquer much of Europe, and did go to moscow, and north africa (which was pointless). But, at the time of Normandy where SVP takes place, the Germans were somewhat on the heels of thier feet. The allied forces were attacking and taking back land. and the soviets were doing the same. and also if you watch the movie again.. you would realize its just not 30 people or whatever the number you think it is, but actually alot more... Spielbergh gave importance to the characters of the film. and war is fought by individual man making a difference....a tad different than world war 1.

and how is he racist?
because he showed germans as the bad guys, or always killing them or what?? why is he?

In schindler's list, which is about the Holocaust. Nazi's did actually do that.. and to be realistic as possible, he had to somewhat make them bad.
and SVP, umm the movie is about allied forces against germany, because thats what happened.

I didn't think Saving Private Ryan was overrated at all, it was one of the best war movies I've ever seen, even though when you really think about it, the plot makes no sense. I don't understand how this movie didn't get the best picture award back in '98, the award went to Shakespeare in Love.

I agree...i love it....ive heard about it being on tv too, can't wait...it'll be like watching it all over again for the first time.

Howdy,

am currently watching Saving Private Ryan and have never stopped to question about why they had to go looking for Ryan due to his brothers dying

I do not know if this is a policy of the US Army or whatnot about getting the last remaining son back home?

Please enlighting me

I thought it was standard policy... rather dumb, but heck, ... americans huh

you basiclly just answered your own question .

they went in to get private ryan becuase all his brothers died in the war . they cant allow all offspring to parish so they have to bring him home to his parents .

does that help ?

It's called being considerate.

p.s. didn't know "howdy" was that widespread in Scotland. Learn something every day.

it's called stupid in other countries too

but yers we learn from the best , canadians right ?

or Inuits

Yes, they are.

so its policy and being considerate?

I just found it weird they sent 9 (think it was 9) men to save 1, weird thing though I must say,

but non the less the american generals and whatnot make it seem very important of this brother/offspring thing

and of course, they almost all died for one

....This just in....it's also a work of fiction!

yep,

perhaps the 2 which were left

Discos - or was it just the one? The interperator?

ITS A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!! people and its a pretty dumb yet sweet reason to send a bunch of guys to risk their lives to look for.

My only query with Saving Private Ryan was em, where were the Brits exactly?

Incidentally, my mate has a copy of a porn movie called "Shaving Ryans Privates" if anyone wants to borrow it.

picture this... you have four sons in the army. all of them decided to enlist. when the sh!t hit the fan, they got sent to iraq. three of them died within hours of each other's. wouldn't you want your last son back? imagine recieving four folded flags in ONE day.

the government felt grateful for the contributions of ryan's family and decided to bring the last remaining son back to his mother.

You got something there. I think that was the main reason why the Government did that. The Ryan family send all their males to fight and two got killed. It involves the family bloodline. If Ryan dies he is the last man to carry the family name with him. Therefore the family coulda held the goverment liable for ending the family line.

my thoughts exactly...

yeah, it's only logic to send a squad in to safe one guy instead of already kicking him cause they knew they enlisted them all
you don't send a squad behind enemy lines to safe one guy who's only a soldier

cause it's aboot boosting how great the americans were

what are some of your favorite quotes from this amazing movie? Mine, by far, is where the 7 guys are in the church and tom hanks and the rocket launcher guy are talking about vekio.

Why? because it just shows that these are normal people.

how about you?

thanx,
Justin

I did not see that movie.I can't watch something like that.But the lines sounds good!Should this be in the movie topic and not here through.JM

I like the part where that one guy goes up to Vin Diesel and says, 'Hey, what are you guys doing here?'

Then, Vin turns to him and says, 'We are saving Ryan's privates.'

I like the bit where i cant watch the film anymore because it was my coursework assignemtn and i studied every bit of it, now it bores me

yeah, i had to do that, we had to watch the start over and over again, and it was freaking all these girls out cos theyre only 14.

first four scenes?
Transition from present to past
instant chaos
cpt millers confusion
the end of the battle


Was spielberg succesful in creating INSTANT CHAOS?


Like i care

wasn't he talking to the sergeant in that conversation?

I love SPR. It has a great opening.

Saving Private Ryan is one of the greatest ware movies ever made, infact it's probably the best war movie ever made along with Glory, Braveheart, Schindler's List, Apocalypse Now, Black Hawk Down etc. The opening scene is by far the best scene ever made in a film and the ending is very intense and just simply amazing. You can't really get enough of Saving Private Ryan

Just my favorit moment that i thought was extreamly smart was when theya re in that building and (I don't remeber who) Decides to shoot at the wall And Kills an enemy that was behind it.

saving private ryan... wow. That's all I can say.

This was one of the most suprising movies I have ever seen. This movie impacted me like nothing else I have EVER seen.

What about you?

Why?

Thanks,

Justin

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i dont mind saving private Ryan but i only seem to watch the first 10 minutes or so then i lose interest

I recently jsut got this on DVD and haven't watched it yet. It's been awhile since I've seen it. Might just have to take it in tomorrow after work.

let's start a new thread....the pluses and minus', the differences in Terence Mallick's The Thin Red Line, and Saving Private Ryan.

One is beautiful, one is ugly.

Both are long.

Just saw Pvt Ryan....it was a very emotional experience & some parts very very disturbing. I was in tears towards the end of the movie!

Overall , a great movie!

Y3a it a nice show BUT BROTHERHOOD RULEZ...

"Brotherhood" is out on DVD 2/15 in the U.S. I plan on atleast renting it.

Go watch and mayb u will cry after the end of the show which is the most touchin...