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Perception Management - American Television is truly the 'boob tube' and it controls the masses via very carefully filtered information keeping a duped and deceived populace in check to serve at the pleasure of the plutocratic US government.
The presidential election was a great success for our government, because most of the fools still think the outcome had something to do with voting. They've already returned to their television sets for further training, so the fact that they have no money or freedom and their children are being sent to die will soon make perfect sense to them.
It's all very easy once you're in control of the news. Goebbels knew that if you could CONTROL THE INFORMATION that's available to a population, you could CONTROL THE MIND OF A NATION, and this lesson from Nazi Germany has been perfected in America today.

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I would say media in general

Television is basically entertainment. You want to learn go to the library. You want to be inform buy a newspaper.

thing is newspapers are often biased

Yeah, that's true in some cases.

if u want to be informed...by a newspaper??! lol yeah rite..the papers tell us everythin we need to know
have u bothered clickin the link
television is just for entertainment?? woteva

you should watch Tomorrow Never Dies

I'm god of you T.V and all your children shall worship me....

I think everyone is just to damn paranoid. Media and television are not a weapon in any way. The only weapon these invisible forces behind the curtain have, is the gullability and stupidity of people. People dont read the newspapers because they believe that they are being spoon fed lies and misleadings by some conscious force that wants to sway their perspective. These same people believe a poorly written conspiracy theory found on the internet- the interent of all places.

There is no boogeyman in the television set, there is no evil dictator in charge of what goes page one. Money makes the world go round, and money decides what goes on page one, money decides which candidate gets to run the most polotical commercials. If it doesnt make money or have the potential to make money then it isnt run. One thing that makes the least amount of money in most cases is the truth. The truth often makes more money when it is twisted.

I believe that the entertainment medium is used to influence how people think, and is used in this way quite often. I know i sound as though i am contradicting myself, but it is not the medium that is weapon in cases like this. It is the gullability of people. The media and entertainment are about two things most of the time, and these are image and money. How and what we percive from this is on us.

of course media is a weapon when it comes to propaganda, just look how they used the media to justify going to war in Iraq

Again, that was the people's gullibility and ignorance. Months and even years after 9/11 people believed sadaam to be responsible for 9/11. Whose fault is that? When you don't bother to educate yourself or just pay attention to events around you, then your stupidity is justified in being used to someone else's advantage. People don't even know where Iraq is. I mean come on man. Naiveness, and ignorance have been used to win political campaignes and wage wars for centuries. This approach of using peoples lack of information has been used centuries before t.v and media existed.

Without TV we wouldnt have Toonami, Movies, Manga, Porn? The world would go topsy-tervy. Beer is the biggest weapon of them all. Had alcahol been invented 10 years ago it would be a class A drug.

who said we buy what media said all the time, point is they say it regardless the majority buy it or not.

nowadays media are trying to controll ppl's life..
and imothe television is getting the biggest impact coz it has the shortest way to reachthe audience, ppl don't buy newspapers but are turning the tv on.
and eg here when waching news on some different channels, you get different info and it confuses me a bit.







that too

I agree... when I read the title of this thread my initial reaction was that TV's not as powerful as the net

I watch way too much of it I wish we had the radio like the good old times then you can do something while you listen to the radio.And not just stare into the tv like a dummy!JM

If you believe everythig you hear, and read in the media, and take it with full faith that the truth is being recited to you. Then no one is at fault , but yourself. It is not the fault of the source reporting the information. Truth is only an idea. in a world where speach is free, truth is half determined by the beholder. Most of what spans across the air ways and printed word is influenced by money.. What will get you to watch my t.v station, what will get you to listen to my radio station, what will get you to read my papers? With so many different perceptions, there are different avenues of truth. The media tries to appeal to certian perceptions to gather the people. Pretty soon the truth is spun with several hundred versions, each version trying different methods of spinning the story to lure audiences. This is no ones fault, because speach is free, and the public accepts it.

Of course this can be considered a type of brainwashing, seeing how you can very well influnce people. You can influence people's decesion in politics, fashion and even what kind of toothpaste to buy, but it is not the fault of the people producing these ad's because speach is free. If money did not influence what is printed and aired, things would be different, but money is still the most important thing to the world. Television is not a weapon untill you allow yourself to be blinded and shut off your brain to commen sense.

but the thing is 90% and maybe more people do allow themselves to be blinded..they do believe what is being said on the tv so to say television is not a weapon is stupid in its totality....most people would have a nervous breakdown if they was away from the tv for more than 2 days at the most...i read that kids spend over half of their life watching TV on the average before they are age 18. Don't you want a better life for your kids and yourself?
tv controls peoples way of thinking and thats the way it is....im guilty of taking tv seriously too but ive learned from my mistakes and its about time everyone else does

Well I believe everything that sky news and the news channels say coz i dont believe news papers. I believe what the guys from megas xlr say aswell coz they speak the truth!!!

Coop- I always wanted to jump through a moving car window

Kiva- You always wanted to do that!?

Coop- Guy thing.

No one was talking about believing the stuff printed or delivered by media, nevertheless they will spew out not exactly objective views on the matters at hand whether it being reasons for invading a country or the global warming.
media has never been objective

This is what we risk with freedom of speach. I wouldnt go as far to say that T.v controls peoples lives, influence yeah. It really is no big deal. Taking away t.v and media would not change the naiveness and gullability of people.

people would be lost without tv

Then turn it off! Watching T.V. is a choice. You choose to sit there like a dummy.

I disagree.

I dont see News as entertainment - unless you believe war and dying is amusing.

I think WDs point, Lil, is that what people get out of that is more a presented feeling of knowledge from around the world that makes them feel satisfied, as opposed to the GENUINE newsgathering and learning you would get from the other sources he is quoting.

So he was saying that it is not really News you get on the tv. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see his point- the way tv news is presented, it often seems more like voyeurism than reportage.

My fave paragraph on that article -

America can never be free again, unless Americans can first free their minds from the government's grip, and that grip is exerted through the television. Just get off the couch and put a sledgehammer right through the screen. Don't worry, it won't explode. That's one of the many things that only happens on TV.


Its actually interesting how much shit are people ed and they still believe it. I just took 6 books out of the library on American Foregin Policy in Latin America and Middle East - and im surprised at what Americans have written about America's way of dealing with things - too bad many others dont read it.

I didn't say News were entertainment. My prime aim is what TV is today. Is basically entertainment. There are far more sitcoms, cartoons, matinee, gossip, talk shows, cooking, reality tv, and sports events shows than News. The only time News takes over TV is when a disaster happens. All channels stop their schedule programs to report the events. And notice that the network that offers the most coverage gets the higher ratings. So basically TV is about entertainment and Ratings.

Which is sad because disasters are happening every single day every hour of the day... but what you gonna do.

I responded to your quote the way you wrote it ''TV is basically entertainment, library is for learning and newspapers for information''

Its very simple and bold - which is how i took it.

tv is for entertainment yes but you sure thats all its for??... because of tv most people are fat and lazy........shall we go and do some exercise and play some sports???....nah i wanna watch my favourtie show on tv tonite because its that important to me.......thats the power of tv..
people on here say that watching tv is a choice...yes it is but the thing is most people pick the wrong choice by watching this hypnotist in the corner of the room because it has a hold on you...it becomes addictive....we have all experienced it...it can turn your mind to mush

What? dean people are not fat because of the power of TV. People are fat because they don't have a proper nutrition or a balance diet. Yes, I could accept the little conspiracy theory of fast food restaurants advertising on TV and making people go hungry. But to lay the problem of obesity on TV...nah! Is TV addictive? of course but so are many things like the internet as an example. TV networks are only interested in ratings and sponsors nothing more.

I don't watch the news on tv, ever. It's boring, misinformed and biased. It's for this reason I pay no attention to any current events of any sort.

I dont even have a TV at university - i kinda like it this way - no crappy reality shows...ugh.

TV is entertaining. The news can be entertaining in a dark way, a "what's going to happen next?" knida way. Especially with the news channels, "Lets go live to Bob who's at the scene as this situstion unfolds...." I sat watching as the Election results come in, as the Tsunami death toll rises, as the Russian school siege panned out, as the Twin Towers fell, as the Ukranians protested; because I wanted to see what would happen next.

TV reaches over 90% of people in UK, it is thee way for people to try to influence others. It's best way to tell people that "of course there are WMDs", "Bush is a fool", "Blair is a lapdog", "It's all the fault of the French", "trust us, we're great, we're your friend".

Because of it's huge audience, TV can undoubtedly be used as a weapon.

Too many reality shows on TV. It's lost its touch. I don't watch anything except 24 and Smallville.

Who cares about the news anyway? Why watch news channels when you could watch Toonami or Scuzz or some movie or playing computer games. News doesnt concern indivduals only cities and countries in general. If gun crime is increasing and you get shot while your out your dead, why it be now or 100 years time it doesnt matter and you won't think you were too young to be dead or I didnt want to die coz you'd be dead and you can't think anything coz ya dead. Death is cool coz you dont have to think about anything coz ya cant think coz ya dead.

the only reason{or atleast the greatest} americans are still proud to be americans and are not sick enough to vomit at the name of america is because of television, in the political world it is indeed the greatest weapon.

The most powerful weapons of them all!!! sounds like an Austin Powers storyline. It doesnt kill people, or hurt people fatally or even physically wound people, so how is it a weapon?

yea course the media is a bigger weapon than the atom bomb, Winston Churchill, Clinton, kerdy, bush, tony Blair every won knows it they use it too there advantage its called propaganda... media controls the way we think and act!!! it splits relationships up, it kills peoples careers, it builds public opinion... Hitler rallied a whole nation by controlling the way they thought threw media.. it s just a simple fact!!

So TV and media stuff sureley is a third-party, non-harmful weapon.

a great leader once said its not the weapons that make our country great its the people who use them. and it completely true. you get public opinion u got the force. if it wasnt for the little know body joinin the army you would have a army.. and whos going to join if they dont believe for what there fighting for!? thats where media brain washing comes in

dude FUNK THE MEDIA!

yea 10 jews in a bath

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Simply put, the television has become, in the span of a few decades, the fireworks erupting in the wet dreams of every Joseph Goebbels alive today, a propagandist's manna from heaven and the Establishment's weapon of choice in the pursuit of mind control and thought manipulation.

Television has become the heroin of the masses, a powerful escapist drug deviating stressed psychologies away from reality. For hours at a time, the human mind, never before bombarded with the stresses experienced today, can relieve pressure and relax to the tunes of a fictional world of beauty, perfection and orchestrated wonderment, a world that the natural human condition can never duplicate or achieve. Lost in fantasy and entertainment, the mind travels to locations far and wide, surfing the waves of channels in search of the greatest pleasure, and the most comfortable escape.

Originally posted by dean7879
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Perception Management - American Television is truly the 'boob tube' and it controls the masses via very carefully filtered information keeping a duped and deceived populace in check to serve at the pleasure of the plutocratic US government.
The presidential election was a great success for our government, because most of the fools still think the outcome had something to do with voting. They've already returned to their television sets for further training, so the fact that they have no money or freedom and their children are being sent to die will soon make perfect sense to them.
It's all very easy once you're in control of the news. Goebbels knew that if you could CONTROL THE INFORMATION that's available to a population, you could CONTROL THE MIND OF A NATION, and this lesson from Nazi Germany has been perfected in America today.

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that's nice. But, the world is controlled by the information fed to them. It isn't just america. Like Hitler said: The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it." And you know what?, America isn't the only ignorant country in the world. If the whole truth was reported, then people could MAYBE make up their own minds. However, it isn't...and never will be. The truth lies in the hands of the powerful, and only there. We, you and I, and everyone else who cares....don't mean a damn thing to them. Like they say, "history is written by the winners."

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