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What do you think the correct definition of a "poseur" is? I say it's one who thinks that by dressing or acting in a certain way they will gain a certain level of respect. Agree?

Yes, but why is it in the Music forum?

To me, the definition of poser is "punk"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39433000/jpg/_39433355_pg_good_charlotte.jpg

altho i own that fred perry jacket and unashamadly admit that cos its a very nice jacket

EDIT: note theyre standing infront of a kerrang wall... adds to the poseurness cos Kerrang = poseur

I"m talking about music poseurs you dip

here it is http://homepages.wmich.edu/~e2wither/simple%20plan.gif

no no, this is what posers should look like
http://www.symynet.com/online_gift_shop/artwork/new_avril_lavigne.jpg

http://members.aol.com/billiejinx/grwdstk1.jpg
http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/atlantic/simpleplan/0303_simple_plan_b.jpg

hang on.....GC and that band really look sooo similar....

bald guy in both....
guy with crappy moheekan in both...
guy with bandana and ridiculously wonky hat in both...
stupid expressions in both...

infact, i think theyre actually the same band... or atleast manufactured from the same mould

EDIT: the pic Slipknot posted i mean

no, its not "poseurness", its a style, you know

yeah, but why do punks have to make people think their "tough" and "against society" and "anti-bush"?, yknow, all that bs

hmm...*thinks* yes they may be poseurs! i mean...these are the traits of this style....and OF COURSE it contains a bit of poseurness or how you say it but which style does not? and when billie joe from green day kisses a guy on the stage THAT is poseur or when they burn up the drums, THAT is poseur....its true....but they can do it....a lot of ppl like their music eg me and i dont care what they do, coz i love their MUSIC and this is what matters for me

and when their music is posuer, too? i dont care i still like it

do i become a poseur too coz of it?

Green Day arent really

I know, I dont have a problem with their music-I just think punk bands are trying too hard to be controversial

But Avrile is

I don't think greenday is a poseur but I do think they're extremely overrated and they singer's voice sounds like he has a cold and it bothers me more than almost anything.

Needless to say

Oh my god! somebody finally agrees with me that Billy Joe's voice sucks! He needs to blow his nose

Billy Joe Armstrong is this generation's Ozzy Osbourne-His voice sucks, but everybody likes him for some reason

his voice does not suck

jerry
lol Ive been waiting for a chance to use that smiley

Whatever man, your own opinion. But you can't disagree, he does sound like he has a cold.

While were on the subject of bad punk rock voices, lets mention the godfather of punk: Sid Vicious, his voice was downright painful to listen to, the only reason they let him be the lead singer was becuase of his stage attitude

Haha Sid Vicious rocks. He couldn't play the bass for shit. They unplugged his amp on stage cuz he sucked so bad. I think it's hilarious

there is very little real punk left today. I can't really think of a punk band that has made it on the national level.

Here my friends, is the only good punk band
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JGAB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

ATomic, GTFO. There are dozens of great punk bands.

The Clash, X, The Germs, Bad Brains, Black Flag, Minor Threat, etc.

I like Black Flag, Henry's pretty cool

So Johnny Ramone, Jello Biafra, Joe Strummer, Sid Vicious and Henry Rollins are posers?

People who call themselves punk now, with a few possible exceptions are posers, but back in the day, punk really meant something. It wasn't just a dress code and fake attitude like it's become now.

I'll have to disagree with that Ramones thing. They're OK. Not that great and definately not the best punk band. I like Choking Victim they're pretty good.

Let me rephrase my earlier statement: POP-punk is the definition of poser

What about the Misfits?

The Misfits I have nothing against

just to clear things up...pop-punk is an oxymoron. it's more like pop rock.

there is no such thing as a poser. anyone can be whatever the hell they want to be without getting crap for it. nobody is so incredibly original that they are in a position to be saying that another person is a poser.

thats beautiful man

This thread is so full of shit.

Id have to agree, superfly

I hate the word "poser," especially when it's spelled "poseur." There is such a thing as misusing an attitude/style and cleaning it up so everybody likes it all of a sudden, but it should never be called that. Anybody who calls another person a poser is a tryhard and frankly a poser themselves, as much as I hate to use the word.

i agree

thats because the ramones were the original, 'punk' band. there are more descent ones, sex pistols

the misfits? hardly...

you can actually stand Sid's voice? Johnny is pretty cool though

people who call themselves punk at all are 'posers'. No punk band 'back in the day' called themselves punk. and none should now

Sid was the bass player, Johnny was vocalist

sid sang too...he had albums.

"We're not punk, we're the Sex Pistols."

Oh yesh nivek, you know what im talking about

Ah, i stand corrected, thank you

The SEx Pistols sucked. They were made to sell clothes.

i love them pitty...

cmon, rolling your eyes isnt nice, I read a childrens book on rock stars that said Sid was the lead singer

then that book was wrong


hes only famous because hes ODead

ODead

thats HILarious

posers otherwise known as shallow people who are inable to make up a personal identity of there own by stealing from everyone else just as those stole it from others

yes, kinda!

but in the end how will we know, who stole and who was the original one??? okay, just kidding

hmm billie joe once said sth and if i wrote it here, im sure, you all would say oooohhh, how poseur and things like that coz its sth like that with the sex pistols...but i like that line













anyhow it doesnt matter whether i write it or not coz you hate him anyway so...."punk rock is dead. and i f*cking killed it" whahaha...i know you all say now: how true i dont care *daydreams of a green day concert, she might go someday*

Plenty of punk bands call themselves punk, NOFX say it like every other song

oh yeah droolio another 'funny word' score for Neera!

Sid sucked in all aspects really, he sung like shit, he played bass even worse, he was a shitty human being, he ruined the Sex Pistols (but then again, he added alot of the legend to the band by being such a massive tool)...dont know whether to love him or hate him really

Johnny was the true heart of the band, and today hes actually a really cool and nice guy

Then why give a general definition, you equally inoffensive insult.