Kyle Katarn versus Quinlan Vos

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SnakeEyes
who would prevail in this fight?

speiderman
Quinlan Vos

SnakeEyes
I think Kyle would take it

ARC Trooper 117
Once again, it depends.
Kyle before JN: JA, or post-JN: JA? confused

SnakeEyes
After, but does it really matter?

ARC Trooper 117
Well, sort of, because Kyle hadn't tapped into his Force abilities yet and would've been vulnerable to Vos. no
But I like Kyle better, so I vote for him anyways! stick out tongue

SnakeEyes
I think Kyle would win

ARC Trooper 117
yes

§pearhead
Katarn's got this one, he's versatile smile

Red X
Kyle from where???

The time he kicked that other Siths butt?(Not Dessan) JO? JA???

JA, he would totally kick Vos's ass...

SnakeEyes
JA Kyle versus Dark Quinlan from SW: Republic

NicktheBassist
well i just received some information about Kyle Katarn so i believe i could make a valid judgement. actually no but i still think it would be a decent conclusion. i think Quinlon Vos would win only because i think his assassin techniques would prevail over Katarn's traditional fighting tactics. But as i said before i am not an expert on either character so don't get mad if my reasoning is way off. embarrasment

SnakeEyes
dude, i am so pissed off with your newbie decision... You suck


wink

NicktheBassist
shut up Roldy, you sent me the info and i made a decision. i told you not to get mad anyway. mad

Sesse
Kyle would beat anyone if he really wanted.

Just a little visit to the Valley and:

"A supernova of stars in a fleeting thought. The eradication of life from a solar system, in a whisper, will be within his power"


So better not mess with Kyle.

Bardock42
Vos

SnakeEyes
without the Valley of the Jedi

SnakeEyes
BUMP

SnakeEyes
Okay, I am going to specify on this fight a little more:
It is Kyle from right after the events of Jedi Outcast, and Quin from the current issues of Star Wars Republic. They both have experience with Dark and Light sides of the Force and are pretty evenly matched. This battle is without the Valley of the Jedi. The setting is: The busy streets of Nar Shadaa.

Bardock42
Vos

SnakeEyes
BUMP

jackstain
KYLE

SnakeEyes
I will give this another bump

Darth_DaNThEMaN
why did i say kyle? vos would whip that ass.

SnakeEyes
I don't know... I, on the other hand, still think Kyle would win...

Darth_DaNThEMaN
vos is so cool. it would be close. i just think that because wasnt kyle not a jedi? just used a lightsaber? or did he eventually become a jedi? i dont know much about kyle.

OB1-KeNinja
Kyle is a Jedi. He became a Jedi Master at the end of Jedi Outcast. He mastered many force powers, including dark side force powers like force grip and force lightning. As for Vos, I have no idea what his powers are.

SnakeEyes
Information on Vos:

It's for good reason that the Jedi Code dictates that initiates into the Order are brought in during infancy. The tenets of the Jedi are repeatedly reinforced during a Padawan's training, to diminish any possibility of transgression into the dark side's seductive grasp.
But what happens when a Jedi loses his memory?

Thus was the fate of Quinlan Vos, a young Kiffar from Clan Vos discovered by the Jedi. The tightly knit clans of Kiffu at first did not want Vos to leave his home. At a very young age, Vos showed prodigious psychometric talent -- he could read the tenuous psychic imprints left by living hands on inanimate objects. A Kiffar that displayed such abilities usually served his people as a Guardian -- a local law enforcer that protected the sector of space wherein the twin planets of Kiffu and Kiffex reside. Quinlan's parents, Quian and Pethros, were both Guardians, and members of the influential Vos bloodline.

Kurlin Vos, the Sheyf (or leader of the Guardians), proposed a compromise to the Jedi. Rather than take Quinlan away to Coruscant, he would be trained at home. The Jedi Council agreed, and Master Tholme became Quinlan's mentor in the ways of the Force.

At a very young age, Quinlan lost his parents when they were brutally murdered by the vampire-like Anzati. The Sheyf's sister, Tinte, who had long disapproved of Jedi meddling in the Guardian ranks, wanted to taint Quinlan with a taste of the dark side. Knowing that fear was a gateway to the dark path, Tinte brought Quinlan his mother's Gaurdian emblem, worn at the time of the murder. At Tinte's request, Quinlan used his psychometric abilities to read the emblem.

The young boy experienced his mother's murder first hand. For three days he screamed in horror. Only Master Tholme was able to calm the boy, using Jedi meditative techniques. He had no choice but to remove Quinlan from Kiffu, to take him away from the shifty Tinte. On Coruscant, Tholme helped Quinlan to overcome his deep-rooted fear of the Anzati, and to continue along the path of the Jedi. The Guardians wished greatness for Vos, though privately they hoped he would hold Kiffu first in his heart, and the Jedi second.

Quin returned as often to Kiffu as his Jedi duties allowed. Some Jedi frowned upon such sentimentality; they emphasized detachment from personal pasts in favor of devotion to the Force. After achieving Knighthood, Vos took a Padawan, a young Twi'lek girl named Aayla Secura.

Quin and Aayla were drugged and robbed of their memories while investigating a glitteryll smuggling racket on Nar Shaddaa. Left to die on the Smuggler's Moon with only fragments of his past, Vos still had the power of the Force under his command, but none of the discipline. This made him very vulnerable to the beckoning call of the dark side.

An unscrupulous Devaronian bounty hunter named Vilmarh Grahrk teamed up with Vos to help the ailing Jedi escape from a host of enemies on Nar Shaddaa. Grahrk provided transit to Ryloth, where Vos discovered his mind-wiped apprentice, Aayla. The once proud Padawan had been reduced to a lowly slave, toiling away for her uncle, Pol Secura. Vos was furious, and tortured Pol until he revealed the name of the glitteryll mastermind, Senator Chom Frey Kaa.

Had it not been for the intervention of Jedi Master Mace Windu, Vos would surely have committed an act that would have sent him to the dark side. Vos voyaged to Coruscant to kill Senator Kaa, but Windu stopped Vos in time. Quinlan was welcomed back to the Jedi Order, and he underwent retraining. Still, he possessed a dangerous instability and would on several occasions skirt dangerously close to the darkness.

Very soon into his rehabiliation, the Jedi Council dispatched Quinlan Vos on a dangerous mission to the quarantined world of Dathomir. The evil Force witches on that forbidden world had uncovered an ancient temple of incredible power. Crafted by an ancient, extinct species, the Star Temple contained an Infinity Gate -- a dimensional portal capable of generating destructive waves of spatial disruptions across the galaxy. Matriarch Zalem, the ruler of a dominant clan, sought to excavate the temple and target Coruscant with a devastating infinity wave, but Quinlan was able to thwart her with the unlikely aid of her daughter, the witch Ros Lai.

One of Quinlan's next missions brought him home. Tinte, now a Sheyf, specifically requested Vos to investigate a massacre at a security compound on the prison planet of Kiffex. Little did Vos know that he was stepping into a dark chapter of his past, and a world stained by the ancient power of the dark side.

Hidden on Kiffex was a Dark Jedi, imprisoned in stasis for a millennium. Volfe Karko was once a powerful Jedi, who succumbed to his Anzati heritage and became a dangerous predator. Consumed by his hunger for blood, Karko turned against the Jedi. He was defeated, and locked in stasis, but his mind remained active. He became an underground legend to other Anzati, who turned his resting ground into a sacred temple. They came to worship at the feet of the Dreamer, proclaiming themselves his spiritual children. Though completely immobile, Karko was able to sap the essense of the Anzati, slowly degenerating them into savage, feral shadows of their previous forms.

The seductive call of Karko beckoned to young Aayla Secura. The amnesia-addled Padawan had voyaged to Kiffex to seek out her former master, but instead found Karko's sepulcher. The frozen Dark Jedi lured Aayla to his tomb, and had her deactivate the stasis shield. She became his pawn in his bid for power. As the feral Anzati "children of the dreamer" ravaged the neighboring prison settlements, Karko waited patiently for more Jedi to come into his reach, so that he could drink from their life essence and grow in power.

Quinlan Vos knew none of this as he set foot on Kiffex. Master Tholme accompanied Vos, to keep an eye on him and judge his performance and rehabilitation. Tholme told Quinlan about his parents' fate, and explained to him the source of his deep-rooted fear of Anzati. It was a crucial test for Vos. He had to confront the specter of his parents' murder and not give into fear or darkness.

Vos' Jedi resolve withstood the test. He was not only able to defeat Karko, but also free his Padawan from the Dark Jedi's grip. Aayla's memories returned to her, and mentor and apprentice were finally reunited. Master Tholme agreed to re-train Aayla, but Quinlan needed time alone, time to follow where the living Force willed him to go, and time to discover his true role as a Jedi.

Though he had recovered much of his former Jedi discipline, the dark side continually haunted Vos. His aimless wanderings often tugged him to the galaxy's fringe, and on several occasions he found himself paired with the unscrupulous Vilmarh Grahrk. Despite slippery loyalties, Villie proved a helpful ally to Vos on numerous occasions.

After a year of journeying throughout the galaxy, Quinlan had made scores of enemies. Greedy bounty hunters had completely surrounded Quin on Ord Mantell when Aayla Secura again sought him out. Their mentor, Master Tholme, had been captured by deadly Morgukai warriors, and was held captive in the desolate wastelands of Kintan. Aayla and Quin voyaged there and did battle with the Morgukai, narrowly defeating the determined Nikto fanatics. For her exceptional display of skill and determination, Aayla was promoted to the rank of Jedi Knight following this incident.

Quinlan continued wandering, though as a Separatist movement led by Count Dooku began to gain momentum, he found himself with a new mission. Aided by Master Tholme, Quinlan amassed a network of spy contacts within the Separatist movement. Quinlan's network, however, failed to provide any advance warning of the trap on Geonosis, and Vos felt shame for not being able to prevent the death of so many Jedi at the start of the Clone Wars.

When the Jedi were promoted to Generals in the Clone Wars, Quinlan opted to stay in the shadows, gathering needed intelligence. His cover was Korto Vos, an ex-Guardian gun-for-hire. At the Wheel space station, he was able to uncover evidence of the Confederacy attack on Kamino. This allowed the Jedi enough time to bolster their defenses at the battle than ensued.

After months of operating undercover, Quinlan failed to make contact with the Jedi Temple. Jedi Master Agen Kolar was dispatched to bring Vos back, armed with disturbing evidence that Quinlan had actually betrayed the Republic. Rather than fencing bogus holocomm codes to the Confederacy, it appeared that Vos was actually selling legitimate intelligence to the enemy.

Kolar confronted Vos on Nar Shaddaa, but the Jedi spy refused to return to Coruscant. He repeatedly cited his distrust of the Republic, and it appeared that Quinlan had indeed switched sides. Constrained by diplomatic tensions between the Republic and Hutt Space, Kolar was unable to continue pursuit, and Vos fled deeper into the shadows, and deeper into the Confederacy's folds.

SnakeEyes
Information on Kyle... It is dated though. Kyle became a Jedi Master after where this summary ends:

Kyle Katarn was an elite Rebel agent entrusted with some of the most crucial missions of the Rebel Alliance. It was Katarn that single-handedly infiltrated an Imperial installation on Danuta, securing the technical plans of the Empire's Death Star battle station.
A former Imperial, Katarn was born on the Sullustan colony moon of Sulon, living a simple existence as a farmer with his father Morgan. Unaware of his father's Rebel sympathies, Kyle joined the Imperial Academy at Carida. He was indoctrinated and became a decorated Imperial trooper.

While in the Academy, Kyle's father was killed. Official records indicated that the elder Katarn had been murdered by Rebel dissidents. Kyle learned the truth, however, from a Rebel agent named Jan Ors. His father was killed by the Empire for treason. Disgusted with the institution he had joined, Kyle discarded his badges and merits, and cast away his Imperial trappings. He resolved to join the Rebellion.

Kyle became a highly capable and recommended Rebel agent, vouched for by the respected Jan Ors. Kyle drew the attention of no less than Mon Mothma, leader of the Alliance. She entrusted Katarn with that fateful mission to Danuta, and after the Battle of Yavin, Katarn was instrumental in quelling the threat of the Imperial dark trooper project.

Returning to Sulon, Kyle learned that his father had been aiding a refugee effort on the barren world of Ruusan. Morgan had discovered ancient ruins on Ruusan pointing the way to the Valley of the Jedi, the fabled battleground between the ancient Jedi and Sith. The Valley represented a great focal point of energy that if exploited could turn the tide in the perpetual battle between light and dark. Kyle knew that the location of the Valley should never fall into Imperial hands.

Others were already on the path to discovering the Valley, however. The Dark Jedi Jerec and his six henchmen, Gorc, Pic, Maw, Sariss, Boc and Yun, were determined to seize the nexus of power. One by one, Katarn defeated them, though in his aggressive strikes, he came dangerously close to succumbing to the dark side of the Force.

Deep in the Valley of the Jedi, Kyle confronted Jerec, the very man who had killed Morgan Katarn. The two did battle, and when Kyle slew Jerec, he fulfilled an ancient prophecy. The spirits of long-dead Jedi, trapped in the Valley for a thousand years, were finally freed. With this energy unleashed, the Valley of the Jedi's worth as a weapon was effectively eliminated.

Long used to operating independently, Katarn at first refused Luke Skywalker's offer to become a Jedi apprentice. Instead, he continued to serve the Alliance, now the New Republic, on many important missions. After a troubling run-in with the dark side on the forgotten Sith world of Dromund Kaas, Katarn conceded that he would benefit from Skywalker's tutelage, and joined the Jedi Master's fledgling Jedi academy.

Kyle is human male with rugged good looks and an athletic build. He brandishes a green-bladed lightsaber, though he has been known to have access to a veritable arsenal of personal weaponry. He often travels with Jan Ors aboard the battered starship, the Moldy Crow.

Lord_Windu
I would have to say Kyle. Vos's missions were impressive, But after playing Jedi Outcast, IMO Kyle did more amazing things. Plus, Kyle also knew some dark force powers. If he could use it effectively, he will win.

Bobafetty
right

Darth_DaNThEMaN
well i knew a lot about vos......

he trained me fiance', so he's gotta win.

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