Guevara

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darkcrown
Why do people like Che Guevara if he was a communist? Just wondering? What did he do to be so great? My friend was talking to me abouts how amazing Che was when a teacher came up and yelled at us. sad

Ronny
maybe she yelled at you because you were talking class

Df02
an icon for independence and freedom thumb up

darkcrown
no, it was during lunch sad

darkcrown
freedom of what?

Df02
cuba lol

darkcrown
Cuba was democratic before Fidel Castro and company took it over tho. I just don't get it. sad

Storm
He became a popular icon for revolution and youthful political ideals in Western culture.

Ronny
just because he was a communtist didnt mean we had to hate him, bush is a president, do we have tyo like him. anyone inthere right mind would see, if what hes standing for is right, all the power to him

Df02
yea, and he felt that Communism was better for the people...which, on paper, it is i guess....but in practise, it sucks

darkcrown
communism works only in theory and Facsism doesn't work at all! stick out tongue

Df02
Fascism does work...u just gotta be particularly brutal

darkcrown
Doesn't work for the people. no expression (or the jews)

Df02
u didnt specify wink heh

darkcrown
true. What ever happened to Theocracy anyways?

WindDancer
Moving to the GDF...

Moving....

darkcrown
I dont care, nobodys posting here anyways big grin

finti
never had anything against communists.
Che got populare cause he stood for freedom, freedom form what? Who cares he jusrt stood for freedom and revolution and revolution was THE thing during the 60`s. He was just fronted as an icon for that revolutinary idea.

yerssot
from that comment (the one finti quoted) I make the generalisation that you MUST be from brainwashed USA where everything even remotely considered communist is pure evil roll eyes (sarcastic)

you should read up to what exactly communism is before you insinuate it's the root of all evil

dean7879
RESPECT TO CHE

Afro Cheese
A teacher yelled at you for talking about Che Guevara on your own free time? That seems a little over the top.

Tptmanno1
you should have yelled at her back,
I would have....

Most people misenterpret Che, or just use him as a teen rebel phase..

Darth Revan
Because some people understand that communism isn't as bad as we are led to believe. And even if you don't like his political views, he was incredibly brave to do what he did.

Darth Revan
No it wasn't, it was a corrupt dictatorship...

Darth Revan
Not necessarily, because it's never really been tested. There has never been a true communist society anywhere on earth for any significant period of time. Coincidentally I have my doubts about whether or not people would be honest and such... But there's really no saying. Cuba isn't communist, it's socialist, and the two are more different than most people realize. I hate how people misuse the term "communism". It's ridiculous.

Reckoning
Cuba a democracy before Castro? What kind of history lessons did you take?

Cuba was ruled by the dictator Fulgencio Batista, a dictatorship which was thoroughly backed by the then US government. Fidel Castro, with Che Guevara, led the infamous Cuban Revolution of 1956-1959, which deposed of the cruel Batista, and imposed Agrarian reforms. Castro and Guevara had the following of peasants, which were almost above 80 percent of the population, which were the main victims of the Cuban government.

finti
hey dean, why did you steel my old screensaver!!!!!eek! eek!

true

dean7879
lol sorry finti...its a cool pic
i use it has my desktop picture sometimes

Dexx
jesus..you must be american.
have you ever analysed what true communism implies? it is quite an efficient system....it was just applied badly...by the wrong people.
and che, as the others said, was a liberty icon...

Abra
I did a report on Che, he was pretty awesome, I've got to say. It was cool b/c we got to pick our research papers for honors english and I picked him. I totally had the same idea as all good Americans do, the fact that communism is not efficient. It worked for Che because he was tired of being pushed around just because he had asthma, which was a big thing back then, so he hopped on a motorcycle and decided to change his world!!!! He died doing what he believed in and the gov't tried to hide his body, but the Cuban people were relentless in the idea he gave them... they just wanted to be free, and Che gave that to them.

darkcrown
What about China, North Korea, and Cuba?

Silver Stardust
They are not communist; they are socialist dictatorships.

Afro Cheese
What exactly is the difference between communism and socialism?

Silver Stardust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Afro Cheese
I see.. still don't think communism would work in the real world. People are always going to want more. Frankly a world where everything is equal and there is no competition and no motivation to do better just seems flat out boring to me.

finti
bingo!!!!

yerssot
what did you win, finti? eek!

finti
jackshit

KidRock
hehe Che got shot by a green beret! (it rhymes)

finti
well shot by Bolivian soldiers

KidRock
poor poor che

Afro Cheese
I read they cut off his hands then shot him.

Darth Revan
No it doesn't; the fact that the words "got" and "shot" rhyme doesn't make it rhyme. Besides which that's not even true. no expression

AC> I hadn't heard that before... How... Painful...

Dregh
Che Guevara es the 2nd thing i dont give a fu** (after US independence) but as long as he was born in Argentina , HAIL cHE!!

KidRock
ouch I bet that left a mark.

finti
guess the mark of a Che without his hands is equal to Dubya then, he aint got no brain so for an instant they are equal.........even though there are mroe sense in the hands of Che

KidRock
Well Che is still 6 feet under.

Darth Revan
And Che still lives on, and will for centuries, in the minds of people who have the balls to think the way he did. Bush will be remembered, but rather than being a symbol for freedom and equality, he will be remembered as a moron.

Tptmanno1
(I though Che got shot by the CIA by some US conspiracy thingy...)

Well for me at least Che is an icon of someone who wasn't afraid to fight for what he truly believed in, no matter what anyone else said..
In that regard, he should be a hero for all of us, whether you believe in communism or not.

KidRock
Doubt it.

moviejunkie23
"guess the mark of a Che without his hands is equal to Dubya then, he aint got no brain so for an instant they are equal.........even though there are mroe sense in the hands of Che"

usually your pretty funny finti but that one sounded a little forced to me

laughing

BackFire
Most Che lovers are 16 year old self proclaimed "rebels" who think that by having a patch of his face stuck on their backpacks that it makes them hardcore or interesting in some way.

moviejunkie23
yea my personal fav backfire is kids going to a government complex known as a school with an anarchy sign stapled to their backpack.
laughing

BackFire
Yes, high school kids are so stupid that it's interesting.

Darth Revan
No, he was executed by Bolivian soldiers, whose government was sponsored by the CIA.

KidRock> If I had money, I'd ask you if you wanted to bet on that. But I don't. erm

SlipknoT
Why? Bush is an idoit and has done nothing good for this country.

hh?
im resurecting my Che sig wink

finti
che, che

shugie99
Its hard not to like him after seeing Motorcycle Diaries. They make you sympathize with his beliefs. If the movie went further into his life people's opinions would have probably changed though.

Darth Revan
Motorcycle Diaries was a great movie thumb up

KidRock
oh god I cant agree more.. every damn skater punk rocker "i hate my life" retard in our school has little Che shirts and they have no idea who he is.. they just wear the shirts becuase every other loser does.

Dregh
Ya I hate ppl who have backpacks or shirts with Che's face without knowing who the fukk he is

Fearnix
Or what he stood for

dean7879
'i know you have come to kill me...shoot coward..you're only going to kill a man'

i like that quote...its what che said just before he was shot

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