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Can little girl raven defeat bats. I mean raven from the teen titans show could pick up buildings now. But then again Batman explains himself

Mmm... If Batman had the right equipment. I mean Raven is almost similar to a Green Lantern, just nowhere near as powerful, yet. Again the whole issue of prep-time comes into play as it does with every non-human hero or villian Batman is matched up with. If this were to occur randomly, Batman having his batarangs, vomit gas/tear gas he would be in for one hell of a fight. My instinct tells me to choose Raven but my common sense says she is just not experienced enough to defeat Batman, yet.

She's not like GL!! She can only create a 'ball' around things. And from what I've seen of her on the show, I would say bats takes it. But let her grow into herself, and this could become interesting.

Really? Its just a ball? Cuz if its just a ball, how can it twist and bend things?

Weel not a ball!! But maybe you just didn't notice the ''?? They indicate that I was saying something innexact. She can create a layer of darkness around things and manipulate the darkness. Happy??

Batman would win. Whenever I see Raven fight in the cartoon, she is unexperienced and she gets her ass kicked a lot.

But you know, alot of the time Batman hides in the shadows, so if she controls darkness, she could just swallow him up and suffocate him. And Raven is pretty fast with those little shadow portal thingies. Also her other strong power besides the overwhelming anger thing is that paper dude taught her some pretty powerful shit. Batman also has alot of ways of mentally assaulting people minds by telling them weird stuff so that might make her lose it and get angry or maybe she'd stop time again.

Raven has gotten ridiculously powerful since she learned from that evil dragon.
She decimates Batman.

if you beat Batman he will come back more powerful than you could imagine.

batman. He knows every one of the teen titans weakness and is prepared to take any of them down since cyborg almost destroyed the earth.

Exactly - Batman is the ultimate hero-deterrent lol!

No hero would dare go bad, because Bats has detailed files on them all, and has invented ways to take them all down.

C'mon - even Supes has been beaten by Batman before. Batman never fight unless he holds all the cards and knows the outcome in advance...

True....even fellow heros are enemies to Bruce Thomas Wayne!

If it's comic book Batman against cartoon Raven, I really have no choice but to go with the Bat. Slade has stood up to the entire cartoon Teen Titans with ease, I think Batman can handle one empath.

You forget that if Superman wanted to he could have flown his super dense kryptonion body into Batman at mach,near light, or light speeds and killed Batman instantly even if the kryptonite had started taking effect on him. The krytonite would have been knocked miles away and supes would have gotten right back up. Batman would've probably exploded from the force.

They had to write Batman as the winner or all erath would've been destroyed.

Your point is?

Raven could kill Batman before he could even use anything he had on her unless he caught her off guard from behind.
Then she could still kill him.
So your point is? Oh, to answer the question, you have no point.

Btw. Slade in his full powered form would crush Batman like a peak human grape. Robin is peak human too and he is as fast(almost), as powerful punches/kicks(almost), and as skilled in combat(almost) as batman. Slade knocks him around on a regular basis like he is nothing.
Robin whoops up on inhanced and superstrong villains regularly, yet Slade beats him like a stepchild so Batman would get stomped by Slade.
Next time, make a better argument.

so is this actually cartoon raven??

Originally posted by jplatinum
You forget that if Superman wanted to he could have flown his super dense kryptonion body into Batman at mach,near light, or light speeds and killed Batman instantly even if the kryptonite had started taking effect on him. The krytonite would have been knocked miles away and supes would have gotten right back up. Batman would've probably exploded from the force.

They had to write Batman as the winner or all erath would've been destroyed.

Your point is?

Raven could kill Batman before he could even use anything he had on her unless he caught her off guard from behind.
Then she could still kill him.
So your point is? Oh, to answer the question, you have no point.

Btw. Slade in his full powered form would crush Batman like a peak human grape. Robin is peak human too and he is as fast(almost), as powerful punches/kicks(almost), and as skilled in combat(almost) as batman. Slade knocks him around on a regular basis like he is nothing.
Robin whoops up on inhanced and superstrong villains regularly, yet Slade beats him like a stepchild so Batman would get stomped by Slade.
Next time, make a better argument.

First of all, cartoon Raven would never "kill" anyone. Second, Slade has been beaten by Robin, who is nothing compared to Batman.

It's virtually garunteed that comic book Batman has a very in depth file on Raven, including weaknessess and strategies to defeat her. Cartoon Raven has basically shown that her powers are limited to her telikinesis-like abilities. She has not proven to be a good fighter, or use her powers to there fullest.

Batman beats her by exploiting the weaknesses he knows she has.

She doesn't even need to touch him.
She can put up sheilds to protect herself.
She can turn rocks and metal into walking henchmen.
She can fly so he can't do squat to her unless Batman can jump superhigh like the Hulk all of a sudden.
She can say a quick spell and paralyze him, then no weakness he knows means crap if he can't do anything.
She can make him go crazy and fight himself.
Or she can do my favorite and just blast the h3ll out of him til he is a pile of ashes..
She has vast array of powers all of which she can do from a distance so she doesn't need to know how to fight him. Thats irrelavant, dude.

^^^^^ ur right raven totally beats batman

stormfront13,
Thank you, man.

Originally posted by jplatinum
She doesn't even need to touch him.
She can put up sheilds to protect herself.
She can turn rocks and metal into walking henchmen.
She can fly so he can't do squat to her unless Batman can jump superhigh like the Hulk all of a sudden.
She can say a quick spell and paralyze him, then no weakness he knows means crap if he can't do anything.
She can make him go crazy and fight himself.
Or she can do my favorite and just blast the h3ll out of him til he is a pile of ashes..
She has vast array of powers all of which she can do from a distance so she doesn't need to know how to fight him. Thats irrelavant, dude.

We're talking about Saturday morning cartoon Teen Titans Raven here. She has never done 90% of the things you've mentioned.

If this were comic book Raven, I'd be much more inclined to agree with you. But comic Bats vs. cartoon Raven, she gets crushed.

oh its cartoon raven?? well she's done(more than likely)

stormfront13
Thank you, man.