Dawn of the Dead Discussion
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beaujay1
oh my! this looks scary! well its abot like "when theres no more room in hell, where does everyone go?" it looks interesting, bt freaky!!!!!!

beaujay1
i think the dead people are like trying to do something to the living people, it looks wierd
h0ck3yh0rr0r
i already made a thread for this but its alright.
and yes it looks pretty good. it might be better than original.
Dagons Blade
Has anyone replying to this thread ever seen the ORIGINAL film from 1978?
This is the middle ground between George Romero's classics "Night Of The Living Dead" and "Day Of The Dead." The film, at the time, was rated "NC-17" an American designation preventing those under 17 to see it, with or without their parents. Filled with somewhat dated but groundbreaking FX by Tom Savini, the film made many people aware of how many internal organs they REALLY had..this was a gorefest, but had a GREAT storyline, much so that it started the zombie bandwagon films in Europe, most notably the Italian gut-munching classic 'Zombie' by Lucio Fulci.
I only hope the remake is a good one..lately Hollywood has been producing some stale stuff, making me wonder where people REALLY go when there's no more room in hell: to the movies, of course!

h0ck3yh0rr0r
yup^
but i honestly doubt it will be better than original. the original was GREAT!
Zilverz
Original Dawn of the Dead remastered DVD comes out 2/10/04
Dawn of the Dead remake looks sweettttttttttt
My Zombie dvd should be here tue cant wait to check it out
Dagons Blade
There's supposed to be a 3 disc set from Anchor Bay with the Director's Cut (uncut) and the theatrical versions of both America and Europe, which Dario Argento helped Romero work on in the case of the Euro-version. I have the Director's Cut DVD and it's sweet as it is now. As far as Zombie, you'll LOVE this film Zilverz, I saw it back in the theatres in the day of the NC-17 film (I was 18 back in 1981) and half the audience walked out and me and my cousin were like "cool we have the place to ourselves practically."
Funny too because my mom who wanted to see it (she loves horror movies too) was so nervous she ate a whole bag of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and didn't know it LMAO. She said she never saw a movie like that in her life.
Zilverz
Wow Zombie sounds like my kind of horror.. i cant wait .. it should be in the mail box Tue grrrrrrrrr hurry up already
As for the original Dawn of the Dead... Does the Directors cut and Theatrical versions have the Exploding head? and the Screw driver to the head scenes ? or only a certain version ? any idea when the 3 disk set was projected release? The 2/10/04 remastered version im refferencing was only like $14 preorder from Deepdiscountdvd soo im guessing it doesnt contain 3 DVDz ):
BackFire
I will bet my life that it will not be better then the original.
beaujay1
oh, sorry, well whatever you dont have to answer but i thoght it jst looked scary.....im not the best w/ scary movies!!!
HockeyFace
Hmm... I bet Tom Savini is directing.
wicker_man
I have to agree with Backfire and say the remake is very unlikely going to master the original, a bigger budget and more stellar cast don't necessarily mean it wll be better.
Striel
I think the remake looks good, I'll give it a chance. I just saw the preview last night before "Along Came Polly" And I loved the way they set up the preview by showing the happy family... I thought it was gooing to be some drama-- then they showed the kid all creepy looking...etc.
lil tears
The trailer looks very good

I am looking forward to this movie.
SlipknoT
remakes are never as good
wicker_man
Thats not entirely true, i mean the majority of them are pretty mundane but some do surpass there originals such as The Thing & The Fly.
SlipknoT
true, I loved the thing, the flie was pretty good
BackFire
The thing that made the original Dawn of the Dead so great was George Romero, he pioneered the zombie sub-genre and he created what many feel is the ultimate zombie series. He is a great director, especially when it comes to zombie movies. And the fact that he has nothing to do with the remake should suggest that it probably won't be too strong.
amlap
the original DAWN OF THE DEAD is my favorite horror movie, and it should be at least in all of yours top 10. like the otehr thread going around with the examples of the post-modern cliches this new movie will most likely incorperate them. and the trailer doesnt look that good.
Tex
The preivews do look really good!
I get that 28days later vibe and I really enjoyed that movie.
So this may be a dumb question but are they turned into zombies by some virus?
andyF1
Goerge Romero wanted nothing to do with this, so it aint going to be as good as the original. What ive read from die hard romero sites this film has no suspense they say the zombies look like bums running around and it doesnt have that tension when someone has been bitten, its like so what. And the characters have no emotion.
Does any one know if he will make the forth dead movie.
Go see Shaun of the dead, it looks good, in one scene there killing zombies with his record collection, until he comes to his classics and then there arguing which record to throw next
BackFire
I'm not too sure how they're going to explain it in the remake, but in the original they never really have an answer as to why zombies are roaming the earth. There are many theories discussed in the trilogy of the dead, but none are really factual to the stories.
Tex

zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Are you going to see it or rent it?
BackFire
Oh, I'm definately seeing it in theaters, this is one of the few remakes I'm somewhat excited over.
amlap
im just confused as to how they got a cast of 8 from 4

swordmaster
this definitely excited me as soon as i saw they were going to remake it...but alas, it will never meet the genius that is george romero...how many zombie movies has romero directed? I thought it was a good number...
in love...
well i think it is goin to be a great movie..!
and i know it kause i've seen the comercials and hey there great..!
Lord Soth
Nope, this is the first feature film for newbie director Zack Snyder
andyF1
heres a review of dawn of the dead
review
Lord Soth
Here's another review
Bloody-disgusting.com's review of Dawn of the Dead
amlap
one thing i hate about reviews is that they make the movie sounds so ****ing amazing then like that it could be ruined...
i here that USA is airing the first 10 mins of Dawn of the Dead on monday(tomorrow). anyone hear news of this?
Lord Soth
I did while I was watching Touching Evil on Friday! I'm soooo watching that!!!!!!!!

amlap
yeah so its is supose to air at 8pm on monday on USA. so if your interested then give it a shot. i myself will save it for the theaters.
Tex
Yeah, just saw the first 10 minutes, looks OK.
The acting is a little dodgy....I'll rent it.
caballera
I'm scared! I hope it's as good as it looks! there's a trailer @ www.budweiser.com/1!
Lord Soth
Special effects were awesome, story set-up was flawless, direction and editing were sweet! I can't see it on Friday though.......
caballera
how did you see it already?
amlap
im asuming you mean the 10 mins on USA soth. i personally cant wait for friday.
Evil Dead
no matter how good the remake is............they should have had Savini do it.
- He directed the NOTLD remake
- he has pride in the project. He has worked on the last 3 films of the series as make up artist, director and actor.........he knows the subject matter. More importantly, he has been around the dead trilogy for 26 years. He knows Romero.....he know's what Romero's intentions were while filming the movies. He knows Romero's vision.......not just a bunch of zombies running around, he knows the messages meant to be conveyed.
I bet anything the Dawn remake will turn out to be a straight up zombie movie with little to none social commentary.......which is what the original film was centered around. Romero took a message and threw a zombie film together around it.
LeatherLep43
Did anyone see the preview on USA? The 1st 10 minutes rocked! They got right into the gorey parts. I think with the preview that they let us see will help the movie in theaters. Me and my Dad love zombie movies! Wouldn't it be weird if something like that happened in your neighborhood? What would you do?
andyF1
Its nearly here. EVENING.......NIGHT.........DAWN.........BOO
Tex
What do you mean if?
Oooo, I just love your Leprechaun siggy!
I'm a huge Leprechaun fan!
I've seen all of them!
Have you rented Leprechaun Back to tha hood?
It's especially funny with the directors and Warwick's commentary!

Lord Soth
Well, what else would I mean? That's what we were talking about at the time

Jason_Krueger
In the old Romero dead movies there was rules to how a zombie should act in Romero's eyes....there unintellegent, can't do any other movements but wabble around, and all they care about is eating.....they dont know how to use objects to there advantage, BUT in the previews of the New Dawn of the Dead movie, my little brother told me he saw one of the zombies jump on a bar and roar!.....Is this true because if it is then it would defy all of the charcateristics that define Romero's zombie flicks from anyone elses......

ejay1
Yeah changing the zombies could lead to this movies downfall. Slow zombies are way scarier than fast ones. Think about it this way, your in the middle of a foggy cemetery at night. Than all of a sudden the grave site beside you starts to move. You see a hand stick out and zombies begin popping out of their graves. You start to run for the gate leading out but the gate is padlocked from the outside. You try to find a way out, you hear footstep and the moaning of corpses getting near. Until its too late and they slowly start eating you alive. That what makes them so scary, they are everywhere and you can't run forever. And usually the survivors in these movies have so much of an ego thinking that "hey I'll take my time, their too slow to catch me anyway", so when they do get caught it was themselves who caused their own demise.
ejay1
Well Dawn of the Dead is suppose to be the sequel to Night of the Living Dead. Supposedly a Satellite that received radiation from Venus crashed landing on Earth causing Corpses from Cemeteries and the recently dead to start walking again and start eating the living, which in turn( if they were not eaten to the bone) became zombies also. There never was a virus in the dead trilogy.
Cinemaddiction
That may have been scary back in..I dunno..THE SIXTIES!
As much as I may not like the movie, the infected/zombies in "28 Days Later" were alot more interesting to watch.
Yes, the new zombies in the remake of "Dawn" are pretty mobile, as witnessed in my sig line. Even the "Day of the Dead" zombies are a little more agile than the originals.
That said, Romero's zombies weren't intended to stand the test of time, just the storyline. I for one am anxious to see this new breed.
BackFire
The zombies are basically rip offs of the 28 days later zombies. For the storyline and the tempo of the original trilogy, the slow, stupid zombies fit perfectly. For new age movies, it's very hard to make the movie interesting and exciting with slow zombies. that being said, romeros zombies are still the best. They are slow, stupid, but you still identify with them more then any other types of zombies. He actually developed them as if they were characters.
Zilverz
Crawling out of the grave is a hollywood myth. As it is beyond a real humans strength to burst through a coffin and burst through the 6ft of dirt ... it would also be impossible for a zombie
just thought id add that
I prefer the realistic zombie. The zombie with the awkard movements and slower pace because there muscle tissue is torn and can not be rebuilt.
Just because a zombie can not run full speed, doesnt mean it can not LOOK fierce and BE Fierce. The fear generated from a Fast Pace can be duplicated by the slower version by simply increasing the amount of them.
ejay1
Crawling out of a grave is possible. Im not saying it would just jump out of the ground. A coffin is made of wood which is breakable and the corpse could just dig its way out. At least a zombie coming out of its grave is more possible than Zombies that could outrun a sports car and could jump 20 feet in the air like in house of the dead and 28 days later(though 28 days later zombies probaly aren't zombies since their not dead.). Zombies that come from cemeteries are the scariest kind.
Zilverz
crawling out of a grave is NOT possible.. the coffins last a lot longer than you think.. and on top of that ... the dirt is 6ft and compact from rainn ... there is no diggin out ...
if the coffin was deteriated, then the skeleton would be one with the earth .. it wouldnt even be able to move a limb.. not to mention there would be no muscle tissue on the bone to move it if it could
Evil Dead
"In the old Romero dead movies there was rules to how a zombie should act in Romero's eyes....there unintellegent, can't do any other movements but wabble around, and all they care about is eating.....they dont know how to use objects to there advantage, "
That is not accurate. As Romero's dead trilogy progressed we learned more and more about the zombies. In Dawn of the Dead....we learn that zombies aren't just mindless eating machines. They do still have some intelligence and memory. They flock to the mall because that's what they remember wanting to do, go to the mall. One of the characters (I don't remember which) comments about seeing a zombie trying to drive it's car.
In Day of the Dead we get Bub. Bub is given a razor.....and he still knows what it's used for and how to use it. He puts it to his face to shave. He is given headphones....and quickly learns how to turn the radio on and off. When given the chance to bite "Dr. Frankenstein" he doesn't. He has the perfect chance to feed but does not want to bite/kill him because he considers him a friend. When Bub finds "Dr. Frankenstein's" dead body, he picks up a pistol........then uses the pistol to kill, out of revenge. He did not feed on the dead body......he simply gives a salute and walks away.
In Romero's zombie trilogy we are given the idea that zombies are just like us..........not as intelligent but are getting smarter....just as we once did.
If you think that Romero's zombies are unintelligent, can't use tools and only care about eating.......you must have missed a good portion of the last two movies......especially Day of the Dead as Bub himself blows every one of those notions away.
Evil Dead
where did you pull all that from ejay1? Nowhere in any of the three Dead films does it say why the dead have risen. It doesn't even hint at a reason.
andyF1
Im going to be cremated
how long can zombies survive without food, was it 2 years
LeatherLep43
Hey, as ya'll know today Dawn Of The Dead is finally out. Are you going to go see the movie? Afterwards, type what you thought here... and rate it 1-5 telling why. What parts didn't you like? I won't be seeing it until tomorrow.
Orlando Bloom03
Who Knows?
Cinemaddiction
I'll be going for the 1st of probably 2 times this afternoon at 2:30. There was a 12:20 show, but I can't get up that early.
BackFire
Yep, I'll be seeing it tonight.
PissedOffGoalie
i'll try to see it tonight but i have to go to a stupid dinner pary

i would much rather see ppl get their heads blown off!!!
BRAIIINSSS BRAAAAIIIIINSSSS!!!!!
SaTsuJiN
Please give us a review BF, I wanna know if it sucks bad

(Im gonna go see it with my best friend and her boyfriend tomorrow.. so I just wanted to know what kind of ride I'm in for -_- )
Cinemaddiction
I'll share my opinions after a few other people weigh in. I'll just say I really enjoyed it, and it does the franchise proud.

Striel
I just got home from seeing it.
I liked it.
BUT I will say that I have not watched the original yet-- I stopped on the way home and bought it. I plan on watching it tonight and comparing them.
So, I am basing my opinion on the remake based on the movie itself, not on how it compares to the original.
If it was a stand alone movie, not a remake, I would say "well done."
Make sure you stay to watch the credits.
4 out of 5
samhain
Good points. Makes you think about what Romero will do with Dead Reckoning.
BackFire
Will do, I know everyone is waiting to see what the horror expert of KMC thinks about it

Zilverz
haha .. same here ... my GF wants to see it tommorrow ... soo i got to WAIT... i think ill watch the original dawn again tonight ... just to get psyched
Zilverz
Good post ..
I enjoy Romeroz stories. They are my favorite and the closest films to realistic zombies we have. Bub's character developement was awesome. I think everyone wanted to buy that zombie a beer after Day of the Dead. However, that is one of the few Hollywood myths that Romero wrote in. Great story though. I dont think it should be changed. But zombies have no blood flow. The only part of there brain that still functions is instinct. The brain is rotting away and has no blood. It would be impossible for one to learn. Realisitic Zombies would be mindless.
Jason_Krueger
I'm fixin to see it 2night at the latest showing possible......I'll post sumtin 2marrow
Evil Dead
Ofcourse Realistic zombies would be.........
The speculation in Dawn of the Dead however is "when there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth".............giving a supernatural connotation to the situation. If we are to buy into the supernatural bit, why would the zombies be any different than the rest of the people in hell simply because they are forced to remain in their bodies? The people in hell don't even have bodies........no brains to rot.........
Cinemaddiction
I forgot, how do you use the spoiler tag/font?
Evil Dead
I myself did not see this movie today. I'm too cool to go to the movies by myself and my wife is out of town at a funeral....won't be home untill tomorrow. I shall see it then when I have a date.
BackFire
Going to the movies by yourself is the eptimomy of coolness man. There's nothing more appealing to the ladies then to see a independent guy at a movie theater.
Evil Dead
or not
plus I'm married.....if chicks thought I was cool it would do me no good........sure I might be able to hook something up while my wife's out of town but I earn a pretty damn good living......I have some nice stuff......I don't want to lose half of it and pay alimony just because I wanted to be cool and go to the theater by myself.
SlipknoT
I hate going to the movies with friends. Anyway I'll probably see it on saturday, but I mihgt not be able to because I'm going to a party and if not saturday I'll see it sunday.
Cinemaddiction
Going to see "Dawn" for the 2nd time tomorrow, hopefully. Then "Eternal" on Sunday, and lastly, "Taking Lives" on Monday.
Yes, I thought it was that damn good.
Evil Dead
But does it deserve the name "Dawn of the Dead"? Is it anything at all like the original?
All the reviews I've read says it bares no resemblence to the original other than it being set in a mall. Different characters.......different story.......completely different theme (not anything like Romero's social commentary on the materialism of our society).........
all reports say it is a damn good movie.......but nothing even close to resembling the original. Why must they give the movie the same name and call it a remake if it is nothing like the original? Why not just give it another name like "The Dead Will Walk" or something lame and let it stand on it's own two legs as a good movie.
Even if it is a 5 star movie (don't know yet......I'll watch it tomorrow)....points automatically have to be deducted for the name alone if it is nothing like the original.
Cinemaddiction
That's bullshit. There are PLENTY of tie in's to the original. I'll elaborate in extremely mild spoilers below.
* Mekhi Phifer's wife is pregnant, much like Fran in the original.
* There was a store called "Gaylen Ross" a tribute to Fran herself.
* Ken Foree spoke about his father(?) the preacher who said the "When hell is full.." line. Ken's cameo is himself as a televangelist, speaking the same line.
* Scott Reiniger had a cameo as an Army general.
* Tom Savini had a cameo as a Sherriff.
* The Ken Foree lead role is taken up by Ving Rhames, a Police Officer, whos name is actually "Kenneth".
* Instead of a biker gang, a group of regular survivors infiltrates the mall, which intails a wide variety of people. A rich man and his wife, an average father and daughter, an older couple, a female truck driver, in addition to the already stationed trio of young, underpaid security officers. Diverse backgrounds galore, which lends perfectly to the socialistic part of the movie, because they all DO NOT get along, and are very indifferent at times.
* When Ana is flipping through the radio dials, the excerpt from the original, "This is not an isolated incedent" is heard.
* The "BF" trucks are back!
* Instead of a gunshop in the mall, there is a gunshop across the street, where which there is a series of cutscenes of the gang loading up on guns and ammo, much like the segment in the original.
* When the "fat lady" dies, and is covered with a blanket, there is a shot of the gang talking, while she rises and the blanket falls down her face and she sits still, like Peter in the original.
* When Frank, the father is about to turn, he looks almost exactly like Peter, when he was in bed, in the same situation. Deep set black eyes, pale skin.
* While watching television in the electronics department, C.J. I believe mentions that there hasn't been a broadcast in 3 days.
* During a broadcast, the newsanchor begins to recite safety shelters, only to apologize, and say that the list was taken off the teleprompter, much like in the original.
* Of course, someone mentions that they can only be killed by being shot in the head.
* Towards the end of the movie, most everyone escaped except for C.J. who at first allowed the zombies to get near him, just like Peter in the storage room, then began firing off rounds. Except, instead of escaping. C.J. commits suicide, in turn, killing off 100+ zombies.
* The helicopter used in the new version is the same paint scheme as Stephen's bird in the original.
Of course some of the characters are different, or homaged to in different variations, and the underlying theme of the original isn't as blatant. I appreciate the fact that there are alot of recognizable comparisons to the original, as it is a re-telling, and not so much a remake. James Gunn was smart enough to make it his own movie, and realize that nothing will touch the original, so why bother.
I am sure there are plenty more instances, but for anyone to say that they are two totally different movies is insane. Hell, I just got the movie 5 days ago, watched it 2 times, and still caught all of that above!!
IMO, it is a fantastic horror movie, and it did the namesake proud.
PissedOffGoalie
hey jason krueger did u draw that urself? it looks great!
Evil Dead
I'll have to watch it tomorrow Cinemaddiction.........just reporting what I've read on many movie sites around the net.
Having cameo appearances by stars of the original really has nothing to do with the story of either movie........it doesn't make it "like the original" in any way. Tom Savini also played in From Dusk 'till Dawn.....it wasn't like Dawn of the Dead.
The only thing I see you've listed that is the same in both movies is:
They use trucks to barricade the entrances to the mall
They comment that there hasn't been a broadcast in 3 days
General Plot of Dawn of the Dead:
4 people flee the city........end up in a mall. They fight the hordes of zombies, barricade the mall and kill all the zombies. They now have the mall to themselves. A biker gang enters the mall to loot it. The biker gang begin to fight with the protagonists of the story. The protagonists let the zombies in to the mall. The biker gang leaves. Everybody is dead except two people at the end who flee in a helicopter.
There really isn't a whole lot of plot to Dawn of the Dead. If 8/10 of what's listed above isn't even in the film it's a bad remake because they are completely changing the story. As you pointed out......they made THEIR OWN movie......so why throw Romero's Dawn of the Dead name on it? Either it's Romero's movie....or it's their own movie. Just like TCM, they throw a recognizable name onto the movie in search of the almighty dollar, even though it is not the same movie done over......it is a completely different movie. Which is wrong. The movie looks great and by all accounts is very good.......whoring out the name Dawn of the Dead is a blemish on that achievement.
Night of the Living Dead......now that was a remake. It stayed true to the original. Minor changes were made......minor. It was still the movie Romero created.....only recreated by Tom Savini. It was done so well because Savini himself is good freinds with Romero and worked on Martin, Dawn and Day......he had respect for the project. He didn't want to make his own version of a classic film, basically make his own movie and whore it out by throwing somebody else's movie's name on it. He simply updated the story a bit. The plot remained the same........
As I said....I will watch tomorrow and see if the movie is anything like the original. I expect to see a tongue in cheek satire about how materialistic our society is and human behavior with some zombies thrown in to bring the plot (characters, catalyst situation) together. I hope you are right and that is what I get. I somehow get the feeling I'm in store for a fast paced thriller type movie pitting man against zombie and humans struggling to survive. If that is what it turns out to be......nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make it a bad movie (It worked great in 28 Days Later).....it just isn't the plot to Dawn of the Dead.
Evil Dead
1. This belongs in the horror forum
2. Kes, pointless to move it........there are already numerous threads in the horror forum about this movie. This would just be another duplicate thread..........probably better just to lock it.
3. I saw Dawn of the Dead 13 years ago.........you havn't seen it yet?
Evil Dead
just so you don't think I'm making stuff up about a movie I havn't seen..........
I find the bold text of that last review rather ironic.......as Romero himself states on the Dawn dvd commentary that he wrote the script in three weeks while in Italy as a guest of Dario Argento. He didn't even care about the characters......he said he didn't care about that stuff. He was making a movie about something......he started with the themes he wanted to underly the entire movie, then went back and threw characters and plot devices around the themes.
The general consensus is that the plot of these two movies are in no way the same. Romero made a movie satirizing our society whereas the new movie is just a cool blood and guts straight up zombie flick with no real underlying theme. Basically....eyecandy. I shall see it tomorrow and judge for myself.
eggmayo
Tight, whatever.
In the original Dawn of the Dead, the zombies do use instruments.
I watched it this morning.
When the blonde guy is hotwiring a truck a zombie picks up a tyre wrench and trys to hit him.
Also, the eyepatched scientist on the TV broadcasts says that they do.
LeatherLep43
Why can't they just have the original directors to help out in the re-makes of their films? It would be better and the director could say how he or she done this or that. Making the re-make exactly as the original.
Cinemaddiction
I think that someone thought that "Dawn" was such a great movie, that they just wanted to make it a straight up horror, with no undertones or subliminal messages.
I already acknowledged that it's not a direct re-make, and thats not what was being strived for with the updated version, it just took the fun part of the movie, and modernized it.
It's definately not a scene by scene re-make, but a re-telling, so that it would fair well with today's audience.
So, no, it has very little to do with the original storywise, aside from the zombies and the mall. It's an action packed zombie and gorehounds kind of movie.
Kes
Moving and merging with older thread.
Moving--moved
Striel
I stand by CinemaAddiction on this one. I think they did a great job.
amlap
i think that they did a great job with the remake. but i really dont see how it was given the Dawn of the Dead name. the only reasons that i could honestly think that they gave it the Dead name was to sell tickets. granite there are alot of reference to the original, but the movie it self is a whole new movie.
of course with zombie movies there were a couple scenes that i didnt quite understand, but i guess they used them to keep the story moving.
like when the girl steals the truck to get the dog. well driving a clutch on a moving truck like that is a tough thing to do, how the hell did she manage?
when they were armoring up the trucks in the garage, wherent there zombies in there? the cut scene from when they were traped in the garage to them back in-sdie was too jumping.
and of course one of my pet peaves of all movies is the humon common sense. like when they sent the dog to the gun guy, why didnt they tell him not to get biten? and why dont people in zombie movies ever make themselves armor?
and i didnt enjoy the sense when the old guy chops the girl with the chainsaw. even tho the Special Effects were great, the whole purpose of those characters were to die a t that sense and cause hte bus to flip. why did the old man pull ut hte chainsaw anyway, while they were flying back and forth through the streets?
i really enjoyed the zombies being more mobile. because unlike the original, one or two zombies are a pain in the ass and are harder to kill. i think it gives the movie the feeling that it is impossible to escape.
but if i had to choose i would give the movie 4 out of 5. not as good as the original but still a great damn zombie movie.
xemir
wow alot better then I was expecting 8.2 out of 10. If your gona see it see it in theaters probably only way of enhancing the movie experiance.
Evil Dead
agreed........great flick.
But I still think they shouldn't have whored out the name Dawn of the Dead. I would have appreciated the movie a lot more if I could have viewed it as "man...this is a good movie" instead of "man....they are butchering a classic"...........
Was is a good remake? No........was it a good movie? yes.
Cinemaddiction
I smell a merge..
BackFire
It was a good movie. But the zombie baby was horrible. I especially liked the beginning when we saw insanity ingulfing the county as the epidemic was spreading.
SlipknoT
The zombie baby was kind of a dumb idea.
Striel
Evil Dead-- if they hadn't used the name Dawn of the Dead for this one everyone would be complaining about how they ripped off the original DotD.
ejay1
Yes in NOTLD and the remake of it said so. In the remake the man in the news said a sattelite from space crash landed and caused the dead to rise. The cemetery is where most of the zombies came from in the NOTLD and the remake of it. If you think about it where are most cemeteries located, near the city and heavily populated areas. That is why in Dawn and Day the zombie infection was so destructive.
Cinemaddiction
Very good point. I didn't much care for the zombie baby, but they had to do something with the pregnancy, so it seemed somewhat significant.
xemir
stay for credits i left n missed some stuff can some 1 post wat happend during credits n e 1???
DemonicGambit-2
I saw it last night, it was good. I liked it more then the original. I think that one guy, the father of the baby, (I don't remember his name) was a sick, crazed, freak. I mean I would have shot her when she died. But no he wanted to have a dead zombie baby
DemonicGambit-2
It showed them on the boat and then they ran out of gas and food. Then finally they find a island, only there's zombies there to. So we see them shooting and then the camera falls and we're left staring at a zombie's mouth
The Unknown
The movie was okay, not what I expected. IMO the part with the baby was kind of stupid. The original was much better.
Striel
I just watched the original, and I have to say I like the newer one better because it is more entertaining. I do appreciate the older one for what it is, but it IS a bit slow at times. Evil Dead is right though, the two are SO different that they are hardly the same movie.
badkittykitty
me too bf..as always

though I liked how he tied up the baby's momma!
BackFire
I combined the numerous dawn of the dead thrads. Please don't create new ones. Use this thread to discuss dawn of the dead.
Zilverz
Extremely enjoyable flick. Im sure I will purchase this one on DVD. Maybe see it again in theaters. It is definately a differrent movie than the original. I give it a 8.75/10 ..
Baby Scene:
I think they wanted to show that whole irrational side of the human mind, when someone is tramatized along with the ever so popular killing someone you love zombie scene. I mean pretty much a rip off of the NOTLD scene.
Guy in the gunshop:
While they are spending days playing chess, he should have been shooting zombies in the head. He had unlimited ammo. they could have cleared that whole section before taking the buses. All though that explosion was pretty rad
Cinemaddiction
Hmm. It wouldn't have been more practical, but less entertaining to see Andy snipe out all the zombies over time. Besides, what reason would there be for the lead characters to escape then? If the characters were more practical, and less entertaining, Ana would have known the unlock the window the first time she tried to escape from the bathroom. Instead, she didn't think to unlock the damn thing until AFTER her boy busted through the door.
SlipknoT
I liked when they were playing the shoot the celebrity game with Andy.
Zilverz
They needed another scare scene there i guess q:
One of you guys posted about they should have been wearing armor. They could have simply put tape on there limbs leaving there joints for flexibility .. but taped up there arms real good ... how are they going to bite through that ?
SlipknoT
A zombie could probably bit through some tape
Zilverz
im talkin heavy duty tape.. and why wouldnt you coat the sides of the bus with KY ? (;
PissedOffGoalie
THERE IS A DAY OF THE DEAD REMAKE COMING OUT THIS SUMMER!!!!
andyF1
/\ do you have a site to that remake
andyF1
a lot people would of liked the movie to be called somethng else.
what would you of called it.
I was thinking..No more room in hell
Orlando Bloom03
Umm..........
Cinemaddiction
There's a "Dawn of the Dead" all purpose thread at the top. Read before you post, people.
samhain
Early afternoon of the unliving.
The Unknown
Is it going to have the same characters from Dawn of the Dead, taking place on the island?
SweetNsouR
saw it... it was sooo gory... it had so much potential. IMO the ending killed the whole movie. i dont know why they didnt explain why ppl where becoming infected/zombiesh. it was enteraining tho. and very funny lol... humor is unique for a horror film
SweetNsouR
i totally agree (tho that shoulve been posted as a spolier) i understand that he didnt shot her while she was still alive...but once she turned into the creature he should have killed her...and the baby....sick...im glad it died.
BackFire
It really isn't that gory compared to some other movies, even the original is far gorier.
Also them not explaining exactly what the 'infection' was or how it was caused was a throwback to the original, they did the same thing in that. Because it simply isn't necessary to know the reason when there's nothign that can be done about it in the first place.
And the humor...well, I don't know what humor you're talking about. I found the remake to be much darker and more seriously then the original. The original is known for its satire and comic book like feel. Thie remake had more in common with the dark mood from Day of the Dead then the original light hearted romp that was the original Dawn of the Dead
Cinemaddiction
The little tingle of humor to Frank Cheese's "The Sickness", I looked at as kind of a throwback to the card playing scene, where they all had millions of dollars on the table. Kinda like, "So, what do you do in your spare time, knowing you're probably going to die anyway?" type deal.
I thought it ws funny, and thankfully, they kept it somewhat short.
AcidArgyle
I saw a late showing on friday, and it was great!! And I regard the original "Dawn" as the top and my favorite zombie movie... But they did a great job with the remake. Sure the zomibes are faster then in the old movies.. BUT they till are slow and creepin around when they are by themselves.. only fast when they see people to attack... so i thought that was pretty cool.. They kept a lot of the same aspects as in the original.. the news reporters not really knowing what was going on, unexplained. It was just great... And how it ended with the video camera on the boat was great.
I hope they do Day of the Dead too... "Dawn", "Zombie", and "Day" are my favorite zombie movies..
although "28 days later" is right up there when you throw in the new movies too.
Zilverz
It was great! But call me "hollywood mainstream" since i would have preffered the ending with the boat coasting off and leave there fate unknown, insted of the darker ending where you believe they were all killed once they reached the island.
Lord Soth
I just saw it tonight, and I was wowed

Read my review in the Reviews forum.
caballera
oohh...now i'm really excited to see it!
andyF1
Im going on friday at 1pm, Im to scared to go at night http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/vscared.gif
cant wait http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/MexWave.gif
caballera
OMG! the pic in your post is SO creepy!!!! i will probably have nightmares from this movie!
Poptarts
maybe you shouldn't see it
caballera
okay...or i could get a guy to volunteer to let me use him as a human shield in the theater...
andyF1
Its cute

Tex
I found myself at the Cinema by chance today and decided to watch the movie.
Great, great great!
I wasn't too impressed with the first 10 minutes shown on USA a week back, but boy does the remaining hour and 50 sure make up for it!
I just loved the gore!
The directing and acting were top notch!
I really enjoyed the film.
I've never seen the old version, but I imagine it must be pretty hard to top.
It's such a shame that everyone dies in the end on the Island Except the dog I imagine!

Tex
Oh yeah, and I know this has been mentioned before but wasn't the garage full of Zombies? How were they able to pimp out those buses?
I thought it was very humorous, Jay Leno, Burt Reynolds!

Lord Soth
omigod I thought my sides were going to burst
Tex
Rosie Odonnell!

Darth Vicious
I just seen this movie this past weekend and i thoughth it was excellent. What i liked the most was that besides the mall and the zombies it wasnt really a remake and stood as a different movie by itself. Im wondering if they are making a Night oF The Living Dead since it was the first movie in the trilogy, i liked the fact that the zombies were fast but in a more real way unlike "House of the Dead" but i thoght that once they went into the armory there were gonna be more kinds of guns and i was wondering were u guys got that they died in the island, i thought it ended nicely making room for "Day and the Living Dead" remake, the fat lady zombie was hillarious.
amlap
im jsut curious "The sickness" did Disturbed cover that song or was it covered for the film?
and i still dont think they should have used the DAWN OF THE DEAD name. it is a movie of its own. sure the idea is ripped from the orginal, but the story and zombies were original. plus i think if the directer (who is a first timer) would have labeled it his own movie then he would have more credibility when directing future movies. in all honestly i think the guy did an amazing job, along with the editor.
one of the things that killed the movie was the cheese early 90's screenplay. like i said before, some of the scenes were way too unpratical. zombie movie directers/writers need to start writing intelligent characters. becuase i dont know bout you guys, but every time i watch a zombie movie i always figure what i would do. some of the characters a written as the "dumb blondes"
example from the dawn of the dead when the rich guy got out of the tipped bus and blood dripped on his hand. hmmm..... what would i do? id shoot the mother f*cker without even looking. but no instead the guy flings his arms up like a person would do in a 30's hitchcock movie would.
i def dont think the director should continue a sequel for his "dawn of the dead". i think the ending was perfect... actually i think it would have been better if they left it with the boat sailing away (then you could do a sequel with the characters) but since they went farther, they should jsut leave it alone. it ends with you guessing whether they died or not, and that is a good note to leave it on. because that is something that everyone is gonna be bitching about for the next couple years. that is a how you make a classic movie... leave questions open with multiple factors.
if they were to do a sequel to this movie, they should maybe have a prequel that leads to its on movie.
example when everyone meets for the first time (meaning the five who enter in the mall) they talk about how they lost people trying to get across the road. well maybe they could follow another story, and connect the two stories together by maybe having the characters go to that fort that they had set up... and you meet the Kenneths brother, and you see the reports on the news again. but this is alll being if the director or writer decside on continuing on this.
"day of the dead" remake... i hope that they dont get the idea to do what they did with "dawn of the dead". does anyone know who is making it? i hope that the crew who made the "dawn of the dead" remake continue in the horror genre because they have the creative idea of it. but they should def look at independent films because their style had a very independent feel and i think they could really bring more independent films in to the main stream, esp. since they did a great job with "dawn of the dead"
i also heard that "dawn of the dead" beat out the "passion" in teh box office. does anyone know the numbers, and if so does the number count the wed and thurs that the "passion" was out?
ok now im done!
SlipknoT
Dawn of the Dead made $27.3 million and it did beat the passion
PissedOffGoalie
this is creepy: when i went to see the movie i saw my english teacher at the theaters!!!!!!!!!!
Tex
They did a remake of that:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100258/
Cinemaddiction
"The Sickness" is indeed a Disturbed original. Richard Cheese and Lounge Against the Machine covered it, and they used it for the movie.
Richard Cheese has 2 albums out, all lounge style covers of metal and hop hop tunes and they are ****ing hilarious. I need to buy the damn things.
amlap
hahah make that two of us
Punker69
Nothings ever better than the original
Hey is anyone here inerested in writing a review of the movie for the KMC Tribute pm me if your interested.I asked Backfire but he hasnt replied

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ejay1
"day of the dead" remake... i hope that they dont get the idea to do what they did with "dawn of the dead". does anyone know who is making it? i hope that the crew who made the "dawn of the dead" remake continue in the horror genre because they have the creative idea of it. but they should def look at independent films because their style had a very independent feel and i think they could really bring more independent films in to the main stream, esp. since they did a great job with "dawn of the dead"
They aren't going to make a remake for Day of the Dead. Because Romero owns the rights to that movie. Which means Hollywood can not turn it into crap for the MTV generation. He also owns the rights for Night of the Living Dead and they already remade it in the 90s. Looks like all you people who want to see an action packed fast zombie movie would have to wait for the sequel for 28 Days Later or House of the Dead. Or they could make a sequeal for the remake of Dawn and call it teenage mutant ninja zombies.

Punker69
so does anybody want to write a review for the KMC Tribune?
Zilverz
I just watched Dawn of the dead 2004 film a second time. My brother and friend wanted to see it so i went for a second ride. Awesome movie!
Something I just picked up this 2nd time around though. At the very begining when Ana is in the hospital talking to the doctor, the doctor is on the phone trying to convience his buddy to go golfing with him and "steve". His friend is reluctant to going since "steve" is going. Is what you derive from that scene. It just so happens that there is a "Steve" at mall that is obnoxious and is golfing on the roof (;
amlap
ok so i just saw dawn of the dead for the third time now. and im am impressed that i have not seen a single editing error, which is really awesome for a first time director. but i did notice that som of the acting was pretty bad, and that some of the one liners dont really make sense or work.
IMPORTANT QUESTION?
ok im just curious. during the end when the credits are going back and forth with the camera, ther is a spot when i first saw the movie that their was a night lens shot of a girl. now during the 2nd and 3rd viewing i have yet to see this, but then again i always seem to turn my head when the part came. but the night lens shot looked a hell of alot like the quality of the Paris Hilton video. so my question is did anyone else we this night shot, or is this a prank that some guy working at the theater did? and it does make sense that it might work because it was the first viewing of the film, since i went to the 1 pm showing of friday. and i do know alittle bout the guys who work there because my ex g/f use to work there and i wouldnt hold it past one of them doing htat.
i dont know... just food for thought...
Lord Soth
I agree that there was little to no character development, but other than that the movie was no less than perfect

Zilverz
Since we are talking about Character Developement.
I think the character with the most developement/Coolest
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Michael - Jake Webber
He keeps his cool through the whole ordeal. He is Rational. Comes up with solid plans. Paint signs on the roof. Comes up with the chainsaw idea. Tough enough to admit someone needed to be killed. Wasnt afraid to go out on the street when he had to. Was humorous at times.. It was insinuated that he shagged the hottest girl in the movie. The second hottest girl was all of his marbles at the end. Wasnt selfish and stayed behind when he got infected.
I think he was the most developed character and did an excellent job on his part
Lord Soth
I agree w/ you that Michael was the most developed of them, but the examples you gave don't really characterize him. The thing that I think gave him the most depth was when he talked about his best and worst jobs (for spoiler purposes I won't say them)
-the others were good to though

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