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In manga girls breast are shown so easily now. Ex 14 year old girl trips on a banana and her breast rips open her shirt(shes only 14) and a guy sees it then his nose bleeds) (90% of animes)


Or a 10 year old ripping girls close off with a majic spell(negima)


Have the mangas gone to far with the pervertness they put in mangas that have nothing to do with anything.They do it in ever 5 pages in ever vol with the same person. The manga writer probaly never seen a naked girl before so they have to draw it.

I was in a manga store and i saw a 12 year old boy buying battle vixens get backers and negima, and the store owner let him get it.

The little girlsthat i see buy manga arnt nasty like those boys, The girls buy inyuyasha(for some reason they like that anime) and other mangas like that. Yugioh is another one they like.

I can't say I disagree with you, I a fan of Ranma 1/2 and there is at least a set or two of breast that appear in each vol. But the issue of the nudity in the manga, hasn't and doesn't bother me. Its just the way the artist draw it.

Well note that nudity is sometimes shown sometimes in public Japanese television shows. Even for some of the mangas that do not have nudity, there are often a number of sexual references and gestures.

If I recall correctly you see Kagome's breasts(taking a bath) in the first volume of the Inuyasha Manga. . .

Whats next Yugi making a sexualy remark to tia in the manga.

well yugi doesn't but other people do

Most 12- year olds I know don't even like anime, and haven't even read a manga. So where do you live again?

also, considering there are entire bookcases devoted to gay-male anime porn in japan, right there along with all the tentacle rape, and plain ol`hentai mangas, it doesn't suprise me that the line of acceptablility for manga is dropping.

to tell the TRU7H* I was a little suprised to see a post like this. most of the time all I hear are fangi- manga fans complaining why people are censoring their manga. not the other way around.

Im from NY/NJ at barns and nobles . You would be surprised who buys manga over here

Itsd called Japanese culture. Americans are all freaky about nudity for some reason, but thats multimedia in Japan..get over it.

wait so your saying that kagomes breasts are shown?? Wow if thats true then i guess i didnt relize that becuase i have vol. 1 of inuyasha

This is terrible, call the political correctness brigade...they are cartoons/drawings for gawd sake...looosen up

i agree

the majority of anime's have provocative images or an inuendo of some kind, that kind of thing is popular in Japan thats why there is so much of it, I mean they even have vending machines that sell school girl underwear in Japan and various other odd sexual things like that

Alot of the comic books i read have there sex scenes, so i try to skip those parts!

Meh, doesn't bother me! But then again, I'm 19 and some of my favorites are Chobits, Love Hina, and Sailormoon.

And the Inuyasha manga has quite a bit of nudity, who are you kidding?

Well my point is some books go age 10 and you see some naked girl on the first page . Also for the person said its no big deal get over it . The japanese do like nudity and it probaly is part of their culture and when there kids see all this well all that i can say look at the population of japan(alottt) and a kid at the age of 5 to 7 could tell you every thing about females and how to treat them like trash.

I haven't seen many mangas with nudity.But I really dont mind if I do.

If it's intergral to the plot, or just for laughes, it doesn't bother me. I'm a man.

i really havent noticed that much

That's why they put labels on the DVD covers. Most mangas and dvd animes have suggesting ratings for people who don't want to watch nudity or extreme violence. For me nudity in anime doesn't bother me. Now hentai is a whole different thing. Is basically cartoon porn. Not my taste in animation.

They usually give the anime a much higher rating than is necessary as well...I've seen several given a 16+ rating, and there's nothing in it.

It doesnt mean its right like i said the ones labeled kids has breast on lik ethe third page with out any warning and the books at the store i see kids just taking it off the shelves just to look at the pics the books had no plastic. Also its still nasty because if the people sell a hentai or what ever at a store but it has a label on it to warn u but still sells it to little kids(seen it happen) and the label for some mangas are microscopic.

Better example

Kids watch the anime like dragon ball and other kid animes on tv with there parents then ask them to buy the manga ...the parents saw the show with them so they dont think anythings wrong with it so they buy it and then the kids sees nudity at least 10 pages of the book depending on what it is plus more sexual jokes than u can count.

I don't follow much of your post. Can you be more specific on your comments.

There are different laws for TV and books.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
It doesnt mean its right like i said the ones labeled kids has breast on lik ethe third page with out any warning and the books at the store i see kids just taking it off the shelves just to look at the pics the books had no plastic. Also its still nasty because if the people sell a hentai or what ever at a store but it has a label on it to warn u but still sells it to little kids(seen it happen) and the label for some mangas are microscopic.

Better example

Kids watch the anime like dragon ball and other kid animes on tv with there parents then ask them to buy the manga ...the parents saw the show with them so they dont think anythings wrong with it so they buy it and then the kids sees nudity at least 10 pages of the book depending on what it is plus more sexual jokes than u can count.

Not true.

Number one, manga that are labeled for kids don't have ANY sort of nudity or violence in them. Manga that are labeled 18+ (which generally are hentai) are wrapped in plastic. Some of the 16+ manga (which can be borderline hentai) are also wrapped in plastic. The labels are not small, they generally are actually pretty large and are right next to the bar code. I have piles and piles of manga so I know what I'm talking about.

DB manga, if I remember correctly, is rated 13+ and while it has some nudity and sexual jokes, isn't anything that bad (there's no frontal nudity, and nudity in general is very rare, and the jokes are very tame and not anything that a kid would understand). Also keep in mind that the DB anime is VERY heavily edited.

i agree, dbz has nothing rong, except with the cussing of "damn" && bastard in the manga

i agree. dude if u've seen all this nudity in manga and none of us have seen too much then hoos the one with the problem here?
gerogerogero?

Doesn't bother me one bit

Aww come on. Its the way its done. Fan service. Most anime/manga is meant for a male audience. And its the way they do it over there in Japan, remember this wasn't meant for us. They made it for themselves, just somehow we got wind of it and liked it. Just live with it. Different culture, different view on nudity.

Originally posted by BlackHatDefect
Itsd called Japanese culture. Americans are all freaky about nudity for some reason, but thats multimedia in Japan..get over it.

people we all seen it its just on paper it dosent hurt to see it once in a whie..its just made up ok!! you are right blackhatdefect

Originally posted by majintrunks92
i agree, dbz has nothing rong, except with the cussing of "damn" && bastard in the manga

DB has nudity..Its got Bulma naked once, and most of the other times is Gokou. Also Gohan is in DBZ when he's younger.

Brief glimpses is fine. But flat out sex in adult anime is a restricted issue for children.

Point done.

ON THE INTERNET PEOPLE can not have a Descent place to surf around without having vulgar images of abused artwork (anime and Manga).
Anime should not be changed around in dirty ways. think of all the young anime fans below maturity level (10 &-Below) Whom too are big sailor moon & inyuyasha etc. Fans I myself was sailor moon CRAZY AT 8!!!!

Um...what on earth is that post supposed to mean? Nudity in anime/manga is not abused artwork, and isn't always vulgar.

And anime's not being changed to be 'dirty', it was always that way. It's just that in the US we usually get versions that are edited to hell because Americans are so damn uptight about nudity and sex.

so right.............if u watch any episode of any cartoon u dont see the nudity here but like in any other language u see the picture clearly........

most anime that is shown in the US is edited a lot.

Originally posted by Reborn Again
If it's intergral to the plot, or just for laughes, it doesn't bother me. I'm a man. I agree with him

Sailor Moon was edited up to the wazoo; Neptune and Uranus were lovers, and in the English edit, they were supposed to cousin...and also they edited a lot of stuff between Serena and Darian.

Oh, and quit complaining about the sexual references...most of the crudest anime isn't shown on TV, plus, it's nothing different than what we hear in music or watch on TV. So if I were you, I'd stop being a Manga Nazi, and get over it.

Now, I myself am a guy, and don't see the problem with anything "ahem" suggestive for either mangas for guys NOR girls. I'm not "both ways" should anyone ask...but it doesn't bother me. It's art.....and purely just that. You need to look at it from an artistic perspective, and maybe, JUST MAYBE if you read the stories of a few of these, you'd understand the reasoning from these. Sure, at first glance it may be just simple fanservice and eye candy, but most of the time, it's for character development and not just another panel of the page.

Now however, hentai....let's be realistic here...is pretty bad as it is...not that I don't mind....but there's no way to avoid it from spreading. However, the guy who first started this topic who was bothered by this needs to stop going to places that are bugging him, or at least do something else than spy on people doing things that irritate him. It sounds to me that he's the type to analyze and not back it up. Me, and not to brag, but I am a huge collector of this, so I view all of this happening from a first person perspective. Plus, I'm in 2 Anime Clubs, so I see it happen everywhere.

Simply put, grow up.

I don't really think there is that much. some have nudity but you can't see anything. If there is nudity it would be rated OT 16+.It doesn't bother me.

There isn't much in 13+ mangas.....16+ mangas tend to push limits sometimes. An example of THAT is Battle Vixens. Love Hina is suggestive, but it can't 'tap that' when it comes to how kinky Battle Vixens is.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
In manga girls breast are shown so easily now. Ex 14 year old girl trips on a banana and her breast rips open her shirt(shes only 14) and a guy sees it then his nose bleeds) (90% of animes)


Or a 10 year old ripping girls close off with a majic spell(negima)


Have the mangas gone to far with the pervertness they put in mangas that have nothing to do with anything.They do it in ever 5 pages in ever vol with the same person. The manga writer probaly never seen a naked girl before so they have to draw it.

I was in a manga store and i saw a 12 year old boy buying battle vixens get backers and negima, and the store owner let him get it.

The little girlsthat i see buy manga arnt nasty like those boys, The girls buy inyuyasha(for some reason they like that anime) and other mangas like that. Yugioh is another one they like.
Look man.. Some have a lil nudity i know.. but you know what.. most animes and manga that have nudity/sexual references are rated M or MA or whatever.. the ones that aren't rated M or higher.. you shouldnt be complaining about.. what about other movies? There's like heaps of movies out there that are only rated PG or some even G and have sexual references.. why dont you go post something like that in the movie discussion or something.. I've been watching heaps of animes you know.. and I've seen heaps of mangas and animes with nudity and sex but theyve all been rated properly.. the ones that are for kids and have nudity are only a little stuff.. stuff that come on heaps of normal movies too.. you must be a little immature complaining about nudity in manga.. and so what if a 12 year old goes buying animes like that.. its his choice you know.. like kids watch movies for older people..

Think about movies with nudity in, it's the same, but with cartoons. They're for adults or older people.

ah well.... i guess he just doesnt understand the subtlty of fan............ser...vice...hehe.....

I've been reading Chobits, and of course there will be the occasional boob... I don't have a major problem with it, but it's rather difficult to read in school, because you never know who's looking over your shoulder, thinking you're a pervert or a lesbian.

LoL.. when I borrowed the box set off my friend.. these other guys thought it was porn.. LoL.. if you just look at the front cover.. it just looks wrong..

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
In manga girls breast are shown so easily now. Ex 14 year old girl trips on a banana and her breast rips open her shirt(shes only 14) and a guy sees it then his nose bleeds) (90% of animes)


Or a 10 year old ripping girls close off with a majic spell(negima)


Have the mangas gone to far with the pervertness they put in mangas that have nothing to do with anything.They do it in ever 5 pages in ever vol with the same person. The manga writer probaly never seen a naked girl before so they have to draw it.

I was in a manga store and i saw a 12 year old boy buying battle vixens get backers and negima, and the store owner let him get it.

The little girlsthat i see buy manga arnt nasty like those boys, The girls buy inyuyasha(for some reason they like that anime) and other mangas like that. Yugioh is another one they like.

you saw that when the girl trips and everything...that was scary...

is there more nudity in mangas than in the animes?

also....i watch GTO...(omg the funniest ever)...and that has no frontal nudity....just alot of sexual references lol ^__^

GTO.. just love it.. ^^

Wow... just wow. Just because Manga is Japanese culture or cartoon drawings/artwork doesn't change the fact that a younger demographic that shouldn't see it has seen it. (Which is the original poster's point in the first place.)

Just like the fact that it doesn't bother most of you, because you are old enough to handle it, also doesn't change the fact that a younger demographic that shouldn't see it has seen it.

Also the fact that some of these mangas-- or most or all-- are rated properly doesn't change the fact that a younger demographic that shouldn't see it has seen it.

Plus you can't dismiss what is "bad" about something by mentioning that what's "bad" about it has happened somewhere else. For example:



It could be that Max Spidey 24 doesn't think it's okay for that to happen in music or on TV, either. Just because it has happened somewhere else doesn't make it any more right. (BTW, no offense, but I'm not so sure that "Manga Nazi" is the appropriate term for what you were trying to say).

While, I don't think a nudity flash or sexual reference here or there is really enough to scar a child, I understand the concern here.

However, I do think that Max Spidey 24 is placing the blame in the wrong place. IMO, the blame should go to the person that sold the inappropriate manga to the younger audience . And not the Manga creators.

My advice to you, Max Spidey 24, is to go to the store you notice this happening at and ask for the manager. In the nicest way possible, explain your concern to the manager and if it is possible to do, ask him/her to move the anime/manga to another section of the store where children cannot get to it. (I repeat, be nice or you may not get anything accomplished.)

Tell the manager what you witnessed (the child buying the manga), but unless it's absolutely necessary, don't tattle on the person that sold it to him. Just let the manager know that it's going on. It's possible that the manager may be more than happy to fix the problem.

And then if they don't do anything about it, report it.

dear S can be a bit suggestive...

Originally posted by UchihaBoy19
There isn't much in 13+ mangas.....16+ mangas tend to push limits sometimes. An example of THAT is Battle Vixens. Love Hina is suggestive, but it can't 'tap that' when it comes to how kinky Battle Vixens is.

omg i know what you mean i mean in issue 3 koukin has trouble figuring out wether or not he scrwed his aunt adn hakfu gets the front of her shirt ripped many a time there si so much more nudity in manga than the anime it doesnt bother me though although i do find it annoying when your lloking for a picture adn you get taken to a henti site and for henti like hot tails that just disturbing

i dont really read it... but the one manga i saw of battle royale was kinda dity

dirty* and battle vixens has alot of stuff

toally but ive gto so used to it that i barely notice it now lol i want issue 4 weep

Battle Royale has a 18+ Mature Reader rating.

What dawsey28 said was true. The blame doesn't rest on the creators of Manga, but on the people that sell Adult Manga to young children.

Originally posted by Nakago
Battle Royale has a 18+ Mature Reader rating. really? ive only seen 1 of them..

Thank you Nakago.

so i wouldnt know ^^

Yes. I read the 1st volume and its very bloody and has nudity. Plus Berserk has the same rating. I have read the first six volumes of berserk, watched the entire show and I have read some of the latest chapters. That is one Mature Manga/Anime.

ive read berserk i thought it was more bloody than nudity...

but it has lots of both

Arm of Kannon is NUTS.

Originally posted by BlackHatDefect
Itsd called Japanese culture. Americans are all freaky about nudity for some reason, but thats multimedia in Japan..get over it.


In part I have to agree with that. As far as I'm concerned, who cares!? All I can say is, if someone is worried about it, just pay more attention to the age ratings, maybe that will help. And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way. If the author wants to write or draw that way it's fine with me. If someone doesn't want to see it, I say don't look at, skip it, or don't buy it.

Originally posted by sailormoon
In part I have to agree with that. As far as I'm concerned, who cares!?

Well obviously, the person who started this thread cares.



But it's not about who wants to see it, it's about someone seeing it who shouldn't see it.

Yes, you are correct that someone who doesn't want to look at that should just skip it and not buy it. But having an age rating on a book won't stop an underage child from buying a mature manga at a Barnes & Noble.

Someone under age usually doesn't pay attention to age ratings, especially if they can get away with it because someone is willing to sell it to them.

Yes, I see what you're saying, but I still say it's not really a problem.

I don't know if it has been said but:-

Go buy Battle Royale volume 3 and look at the end. It is basically hentai.

I liked it though. I didn't go "ooo! porn" and I didn't go "oh! gross" I just read it.

Censorship is to extreme nowadays. All the swearing has been taking out of anime in the english translations.

edit- Also, I agree that young people shouldn't see manga. And all manga should be 16+.

Well, not all manga. Just the stuff with nudity and intense swearing should be 16+. I think the current ratings are good, we just need to get stores to pay attention to them. I wonder if the people selling manga even realize there are rating labels?

The box sets that i buy dont show any rating..

But you must admit some of it is funny. Like in Dragon Ball when Goku pulls of Bulma's panties and screams "No Balls!"

Yeah that was hilarious in the anime (they released Dragonball on tv over here for a shory time).

And when I said all manga should be 16+ I wasn't talking about changing the ratings.

There's nothing wrong with nudity in anime or manga. Nudity is completely normal. Our views of it are corrupt. When we censor nudity, we censor ourselves.

Anyway, back to the topic, I believe nudity's completely fine in anime and manga.

thats what ive been tryna tell the dude who started all this

Yeah, and I thought we agreed several pages back that its okay and that we should let this drop. And now look...its alive and kicking still :P

Erm...Or I'm thinking of a different thread....*sneaks out*

lol

Well I give up on this. Things will only get worse like nudity on pokemon if that havnt happen already in the jap eps.

Originally posted by dawsey28
Well obviously, the person who started this thread cares.



But it's not about who wants to see it, it's about someone seeing it who shouldn't see it.

Yes, you are correct that someone who doesn't want to look at that should just skip it and not buy it. But having an age rating on a book won't stop an underage child from buying a mature manga at a Barnes & Noble.

Someone under age usually doesn't pay attention to age ratings, especially if they can get away with it because someone is willing to sell it to them.

Not true, actually, at all the bookstores in my area (and I live in Chicago, so that's a lot) if you want to buy a 18+ or M rated manga, you have to have photo ID proving your age. Chobits is the worst of the 16+ rated manga I've seen, and all you see is breasts. Not that big a deal.

I really don't see where the problem is. Why censor stuff for everyone because a small minority has a problem? For parents, simply watch what your kids buy, plain and simple. Don't ruin it for everyone else.

BTW, I'm 19 and have a 13 year old sister who also reads manga. My mom leaves it up to me to screen anything she buys to be sure it's not too adult for her, and I keep my higher-rated mangas hidden away from her.

Yes. That is why I said:



and you must have missed this also:

And being as people can get fired for selling 18+ or M rated materials to those who are underage, I really don't think there are too many people willing to do so.

Yes, but go back to the first page. The original poster said he saw someone doing so.

Therefor, that is why I posted what I did.

No offense, I'm not sure why we are arguing. If that is what we are doing.

If he saw someone doing it then he should have gone to the manager about it.....

Yes I agree. That is exactly what I said a couple pages back.

Originally posted by Lana
and I keep my higher-rated mangas hidden away from her.

ooo, you cruel person.

I am only 14 and 18+ manga doesn't effect me at all. Think Battle Royale vol.3.

Also, if chobits only shows breasts then it isn't the worst 16+ manga. Lupin the 3rd has penises (but not really, you have to read it to understand) and A.I Love You has quite a bit of naked on-face sitting. Accidental ofcourse.

The Nudity doesn't disturb me,it's that they just sell it to under aged.

But I am under-aged and it doesn't disturb me either.

But like I said before. Children under 13 shouldn't read manga (and most over 13 to).

Damn, I am such a prejedicial guy sometimes. (and stereotyping)

lol

I say there is not ENOUGH nudity in Mangas......I can't enjoy a berserk manga that only has a girl raped every ten pages....tss whats wrong with people nowadays.

The writers have stopped feeling a zest for 12-year old's getting raped. It is all 16-year old's popping their breasts out nowadays.

Originally posted by Ciraric
ooo, you cruel person.

I am only 14 and 18+ manga doesn't effect me at all. Think Battle Royale vol.3.

Also, if chobits only shows breasts then it isn't the worst 16+ manga. Lupin the 3rd has penises (but not really, you have to read it to understand) and A.I Love You has quite a bit of naked on-face sitting. Accidental ofcourse.

She found and read my Love Hina already

Originally posted by Ciraric
But I am under-aged and it doesn't disturb me either.

But like I said before. Children under 13 shouldn't read manga (and most over 13 to).

Damn, I am such a prejedicial guy sometimes. (and stereotyping)

Meh, I see no problem in kids under 13 reading manga, so long as they're not higher rated than 13+.

I agree and disagree. Nudity doesn't bother me but for young children that don't pay attention to the You-Must-Be-This-Age-Or-Older-To-Read things, it kinda might get a bit disturbing. I have no further comment...
~RanKioko

Originally posted by Lana
Meh, I see no problem in kids under 13 reading manga, so long as they're not higher rated than 13+.

I am firmly against that type of manga. It demeens the good name of manga.

All manga should be of 16+ style and only mature people should read it. People who can construct proper sentances.

wow, this is quite interesting.
i agree with a lot of you but going back and having to find all those posts is tough so i just say i agree with you lot.
There is nothing wrong with the ratings, they are rated right but some rated above and nothings in it as someone stated before.
As for Ciraric's last comment, i don't think that it all should be rated 16+, but mature people should be the ones to read it.
Like Psychic Academy, it doesn't have nudity, but it has sexual tendencies and preferences, and therefore for mature people. if you find any offending, you shouldn't read it. And if you find yourself giggling your butt off or ewing and a scene than it's just an obvious suggestion of immaturity.
Ratings for 13+, i admit, some of those ratings do overlook a few scenes, but then again, many 13+ year olds know this stuff and don't care. I am 14, started reading manga @ 12 and found no problem with any of it. And there are also some people that DO look forward to seeing some stuff in 13+, 16+ rated and then start complaining. it's pretty sad.
someone earlier stated about 16= wrapped in plastic. That is a fals statement. And as for all 18+ i have found a few rated those not wrapped and most 16+ rated not even close to being wrapped.
and i think soemone also stated about parents scanning what their child reads, now that should be done. but don't just look at the pictures, read around it. Alot of some poppers in manga are accidental and bring the plot of the story into place.
And the dude that started this, try to read the stuff before accusing it then compare it to stuff we see and hear now ((i think someone also stated that)). Anime and manga is not so much more different than that of now. I see 10y.o. and 7y.o. waching R rated movies and not get in trouble. I don't see the movies being talked about like this. But anime and manga, it's a cartoon, not like real life, it's fantasy. i think you should get over it.
And follow that dawsey dudes advice, see your manager.
Personally, i prefer the more mature ones, their plots are more intresting and real life. Not some fantasy hiding what is the truth. i mean if you find vulgarness from a book or a picture offending, then open your eyes to the real world and see what people have post on building and on top of taxi's. Check what people advertise here. Now compare and think about what you're saying.
that's all i have to say about that. l8rrrzzz

In the shop I go to 18+ are the only ones wrapped (took me a while to figure it out why BR was wrapped like the hentai)

But can you read what I said? I didn't say it should all be 16+. It should all be 16+ style or 18+ style. That means more gore and sex. 16+ is only 'mild nudity' anyway. So they show breasts!! whoop de doo.

Although it isn't manga I just wanna say- I just bought an 18+ video game the other day. There was a giant "it is illegal to sell rated games to people under age" notice on the till.

Originally posted by Ciraric
I am firmly against that type of manga. It demeens the good name of manga.

All manga should be of 16+ style and only mature people should read it. People who can construct proper sentances.

So people shouldn't make manga for kids anymore? You forget, this stuff is made for a Japanese audience. Also, not everyone likes lots of gore and sex. Hell, my favorite manga is Sailormoon, and I'm 19.

BTW, some 16+ manga IS wrapped in plastic. Negima is rated 16+ and it's wrapped.

Fine okay I realize that.

I don't want children's manga to be translated into english.

Sailormoon has hot chicks... but it is pretty shitty (the anime I mean, the manga might be better).

Why shouldn't it be translated? There are younger kids that like anime and manga.

And I'm guessing that if you're saying the Sailormoon anime is shitty you've only seen the English dubbed version. In which case you'd be right, because it was absolutely butchered. The original Japanese version (which is all I watch of that series and most anime I like) is very good, especially the Stars season (which never has been and never will be dubbed into English). And the manga is far better than the anime, this is nearly always the case as the majority of the time an anime is based off a manga.

I don't like immature people. In other words those of age between 9-15.

Although many are quite mature (like myself) I still cannot get passed the collective incompetance of children that age.

Urrghh... I guess it is just that I don't want to share with people I see as idiots. (I am willing to admit why I am wrong... it loses me arguments loads of times).

Everyone is immature when they're a kid, yourself included and as a lot of it was made for kids that age, then they should be able to read it.

But when they moan about nudity afterwards... **death to the heretics**

Many people have made valid points on this issue. Like I said earlier, dawsey28 is right. The people who create Manga are not the ones to blame, it is the people who sell Manga who are at fault for children under 13 buying Manga for older age groups.

The debate about ratings is not about if someone has a problem with reading more mature Manga, or sex, or violence, etc. The ratings are a categorization of suitable ages for reading Manga.

Let's not forget that, yes, it can be annoying to hear someone drone on about nudity/violence...blah...blah. If someone who is of an appropriate age has a problem with it, it IS their problem and they are entitled to an opinion.

I don't have a problem with nudity, but I have my limits. I refuse to read some things entirely or I just skip that scene. That works for me.


If a parent lets their child read 16+ Manga, then I say let them read it. Some kids can be very mature for their age.---Don't misunderstand me. I don't mean that an eight year should read Adult Manga. I am thinking about someone who is at least 13.

Originally posted by Ciraric
But when they moan about nudity afterwards... **death to the heretics**

Which is WHY manga for kids should be translated -- it doesn't HAVE nudity and sex in it.

You don't like it don't read it though I know what you mean because my cousin kept picking up my love hina, I read for humor, and he only looked at it for one reason and laughe.

Im 13 and my parents are fine with me reading 16+ anime if theres a page that im uncomfortable with I just turn the page. Thats why I dont understand the point of this thread,if you dont like the nudity in manga just turn the page or get a manga with a lower rating.

yea noone really waits to the age to do anything that the age limit requires. Young children however do find it too influental, and most importantly,don't UNDERSTAND what they read, there are different levels in maturity, and understanding.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
yea noone really waits to the age to do anything that the age limit requires. Young children however do find it too influental, and most importantly,don't UNDERSTAND what they read, there are different levels in maturity, and understanding. AGREE

I try to see everything from all sides. Good friend.

where is everybody im always the only one online,you guys and girls come on way after I do,and I check every hour

Because that's just the way things work out, this isn't a chat room.

theres over 2000 people registered,you would think there would at least be 1 other person on besides me.and Lana are you appearing offline???

More like close to 70,000 people on KMC. And the anime forum's one of the less-active ones. I post in other forums on KMC than just this one.

70000

I'm online now.

OK

Flame Alchemist- could I ask if you ever have been in an uncomfortable position reading manga? You are on the right steps but maybe you are still a little to society manipulated.

Uncomfortable position? I once had someone glance at a Fushigi Yugi Manga I was reading- I was reading Volume 2 when Miaka was only wearing her underwear...It was just a little embarassing.

the comic versus forum is one of the busiest day and night.

ummmmmmmm. no ive never been uncomfortable.EEEVVVEEERRR

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
the comic versus forum is one of the busiest day and night.



It is? I never knew that.

I dont like comics

Ridiculously busy and quite a different atmosphere, not as calm but there are some of the most confident and arrogant people ever there, come there armed and brave.

You use big words

Sorry bud, you aren't mad at me are you?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
the comic versus forum is one of the busiest day and night.

No it's not. That would be the OTF and GDF.

No. Did you go to a fancy college like Harvard?

1] I love and hate the comic Vs forum at the ssame time.Disscussing comics is always fun occsionally you see the stupidest people on the plenet with nothing to do but argue a lost point for 3 straight years

2] Contrary to soccor mom beliefs seeing a boobie will not cause a childs head to explode nor lead to spontanious combustion.While there are going to be some things that arent really good for younger kids to see the majority of nudity IVE seen in manga is done very tastfully.Its probably BECAUSE of all the over-coddling and lack of attention to stuff that actually MATTERS in life that kids end up too mentally stunted to avoid commiting a felony because Ai Yori Aoshi showed a naked girl

Originally posted by Lana
No it's not. That would be the OTF and GDF.

One of the busiest, although the less restrictive forums, will have more community members who can discuss and reiterate themselves there.

Originally posted by Flame Alchemist
No. Did you go to a fancy college like Harvard?

nah, I'm doing art and animation at the moment, how about yourself?

I am a 13 year old girl and I read manga. From Y to Teen usually, but I skip over the disgusting stuff. Why do you think America is so uptight about that stuff?

It is because of our culture, in the 50's nudity and sex were much more of a taboo than even now, and we still don't like to discuss it, even if its playful. Its art, but people find it perverted, but let their children watch myriads of violence.

I can say that much.

I agree.

I personally don't have a problem with it myself.

Me neither, I love the way you guys think....

I have no real problem with nudity as long as it's not there for the sole purpose of jumping off the page and screaming:

LOOK AT ME! I'M NUDITY! FEAR MY NAKED WRATH!!

Doomeon finally a girl that doesn't lie about there age,your the first girl I've seen on here that isnt 16.

I'm sorry am I scarring you

I'm not scurred, lol

Originally posted by Flame Alchemist
Doomeon finally a girl that doesn't lie about there age,your the first girl I've seen on here that isnt 16.

I'm not 16, have you seen my profile? I'm a 19 year old college student. And I'm a girl. And I have no problems with nudity in anime/manga

Girls Boys animals love nudity. I know atleast 35 people girls/Boys that got into manga because of nudity, and then they like the story and get into that after.

Well at least 16.

Yea people get it for the nudity because they aren't used to it, onceit sinks in, they realize the goodness or badness of the story.

When my sister found out I read manga, she was like, "Isn't that anime porn?!?!"

Since I love the storyline of Chobits, the occasional boob doesn't make much of a difference to me. I mean, I could do without it, but I'm not going to stop buying the manga because of it.

Whoa, I think the drawings and all were really good, but the storyline? I didn't like it.

Originally posted by TastyLumpia
When my sister found out I read manga, she was like, "Isn't that anime porn?!?!"

Since I love the storyline of Chobits, the occasional boob doesn't make much of a difference to me. I mean, I could do without it, but I'm not going to stop buying the manga because of it. well u have a point just cause there is some nudity doesn't mean u have to stop buyin or reading it!!

Originally posted by TastyLumpia
When my sister found out I read manga, she was like, "Isn't that anime porn?!?!"

Since I love the storyline of Chobits, the occasional boob doesn't make much of a difference to me. I mean, I could do without it, but I'm not going to stop buying the manga because of it.

My mom asked me that once: "Isn't manga just anime porn?" I replied "No, that's hentai."

The occasional nudity doesn't make it porn.Its just...Well occasional nudity.

i was reading naruto (no nudity) but a kid took it form and lokked saying o yes porn saw none and asked how can u read it if there no porn.
(another day) i was reading another volume of naruto a kid yelled "devons reading pron" the teacher jumped up took it form me not listern to me sent me to the office the princpel called the parents al most every figgen person showed up to see and i had to show them no nudity tell them and for the next week every one said he read porn. i hate that i don't mind nudity and one book it pointed out that if we accpeted nuditiy no one would addict to it because it was every where

So you hate it that you dont mind nudity.And you're saying if we accept nudity than no one would become an addict?WHAT!?

uh... maybe i don't know they had that in a book and it said that people like most stuff because it is uncommen and or u r not supposed to do it . so by making it a n open thing no one will go hyper over one boob slip if i don't make cents sry.

OH,I see what your saying now.What your saying makes sense its just how you were saying it.