Bush Officially Declares Himself Above the Law...

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PVS
...and above the people:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0503030247mar03,1,1855645.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=3&cset=true

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Bush wielding secrecy privilege to end suits
National security cited against challenges to anti-terror tactics

By Andrew Zajac
Washington Bureau
Published March 3, 2005


WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is aggressively wielding a rarely used executive power known as the state secrets privilege in an attempt to squash hard-hitting court challenges to its anti-terrorism campaign.

How the White House is using this privilege, not a law but a series of legal precedents built on national security, disturbs some civil libertarians and open-government advocates because of its sweeping power. Judges almost never challenge the government's assertion of the privilege, and it can be fatal to a plaintiff's case.

The government is invoking the privilege in an attempt to wipe out the heart of a lawsuit that seeks to examine rendition, the secretive and controversial practice of sending terror suspects to foreign countries where they might be tortured.

Use of the secrets privilege also could eliminate a suit by a former FBI contract linguist who charges that the bureau bungled translations of terrorism intelligence before and after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Bush administration is also using the secrets privilege to seek dismissal of a third case not related directly to terrorism. And the administration has invoked the privilege in less sweeping ways on several other occasions.

The use of the state secrets privilege, critics say, is part of President Bush's forceful expansion of presidential secrecy, including a more restrictive approach to releasing documents under the Freedom of Information Act; limitations on the dissemination of presidential papers and curtailment of information on individuals rounded up in the war on terrorism.

Justice Department spokesman Kevin Madden declined to discuss any active cases. But he said, "The state secrets privilege is only after a careful determination that, were a secret disclosed, it would adversely affect national security."

The secrets privilege is an especially powerful weapon because federal judges, reluctant to challenge the executive branch on national security, almost never refuse the government's claim to confidentiality.

That is true even though a growing body of declassified documents suggests that in the past, at least, the privilege has been used to protect presidential power, not national secrets, according to Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at the George Washington University, which works to expand public access to government documents.

There's even fresh evidence that the case leading to the Supreme Court's Reynolds decision, which enshrined the secrets privilege more than 50 years ago, may have been based more on concealing negligence than preserving national security.

In claiming the state secrets privilege, "the government always overreaches," Blanton said. "It always misleads and in some cases it lies, because it believes its authority is at stake."

That's not so, said Shannen Coffin, who oversaw state secrets litigation at the Justice Department from January 2002 until mid-2004.

"I don't think that's even a remotely plausible claim," said Coffin, now in private practice. "It's an extremely important privilege and one the government takes extremely seriously."

The Justice Department does not tally the government's use of the privilege. But according to a recent study, the U.S. has successfully asserted the secrets privilege at least 60 times since the early 1950s, and has been stymied only five times.

No court access

Unlike criminal prosecutions, where the law allows the disclosure of at least some secret information--for example, by allowing lawyers to view it in a restricted setting such as a judge's chambers--the secrets privilege keeps information completely out of court in civil cases.

More striking than the number of cases is the breadth of some recent demands for secrecy, say lawyers familiar with government secrets litigation.

For example, it would erase most of Maher Arar's suit over his seizure by U.S. officials in New York in 2002.

Arar, a Canadian citizen who was born in Syria, said he was shackled and flown to Jordan and then Syria where he was abused and imprisoned for 10 months.

His case is aimed at laying bare the arrangements between governments that underpin renditions, said David Cole, a professor at Georgetown University and one of Arar's lawyers.

If the government succeeds "in invoking state secrets, they will make renditions immune from legal challenge in court," Cole said.

Even attorneys fighting secrets claims acknowledge that the government needs to keep some information under wraps. But they argue that the demands for secrecy have gotten out of hand.

PVS
"It's not that the privilege shouldn't exist. It's become too broad and abused with very little accountability imposed by the judiciary," said Mark Zaid, a Washington attorney who is handling two of the cases in which the government is seeking dismissal of most or all of a lawsuit.

In one of those cases, Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI linguist, charged that she was fired in retaliation for questioning security lapses at the bureau.

Last July, a Washington judge accepted the government argument and dismissed her complaint.

Edmonds said she believes the Justice Department was concerned about potential liability in other suits.

"If this stuff comes out, it will be used by 9/11 families and various defendants, detainees," she said, referring to lawsuits by the families of Sept. 11 victims and by those held without charges in the subsequent security sweeps. Edmonds testified Wednesday before Congress, telling a House subcommittee that the government seems "to be far more concerned with avoiding accountability than protecting our national security."

In March 2004, another judge cited state secrets grounds in throwing out a racial discrimination suit brought by Jeffrey Sterling, a black ex-CIA agent, against his former employer.

Sterling , 37, who worked in the agency's Near East and South Asia Division from 1993 until 2001, said the CIA wants to head off potential liability in its treatment of other black employees.

"For the U.S. government to say that they can't defend themselves against me is asinine," said Sterling, who works as an insurance fraud investigator in St. Louis.

A CIA spokesman declined to comment.

Zaid said he has offered to allow the government to keep certain information in both cases secret, but the government lawyers insist on killing the cases.

The cases of Edmonds and Sterling--plus a third involving Drug Enforcement Administration agent Richard Horn, whose suit against the CIA in 1994 for allegedly bugging his home also was quashed on state secrets grounds--are all before appeals courts.

But the stakes are particularly high in the case of Arar. The computer engineer and father of two is one of an unknown number of foreigners under U.S. control who were sent to other countries in what critics say is an outsourcing of torture.

Detention in Syria

According to his suit, filed in New York in January 2004, Arar was detained at New York's Kennedy International Airport and interrogated about his links to terrorists, based apparently on his casual association with a terrorist suspect.

Arar said he pleaded with his captors to send him back to Canada. Instead he was flown to Jordan and then to Syria, where, he said, he was beaten with an electric cable and otherwise brutalized over the next 10 months.

Although the U.S. lists Syria as one of six state sponsors of terrorism, the two countries have cooperated from time to time in the war on terrorism.

In October 2003, Arar was released and sent back to Canada. No country has charged him with a crime. "The only conclusion is they sent me there to be tortured and to extract information," he said.

Arar's suit in American courts charges the U.S. with violating his civil, constitutional and human rights.

In January the government filed papers asserting that disclosure of information to defend itself "would pose an exceptionally grave or serious risk to diplomatic relations and national security" and seeking dismissal of much of the suit. The district court has yet to rule.

"What's being done in the name of the American people is not acceptable," Arar said. "I want judges to re-evaluate the post-9/11 strategy."

In a federal appeals court in Philadelphia, meanwhile, Patricia Reynolds Herring wants judges to re-evaluate a suit she filed more than five decades ago that became the modern anchor for the state secrets privilege.

In that case, the Supreme Court ruled that national security trumped grievances of citizens. It declared that the executive branch could assert a secrets privilege when "there is a reasonable danger that compulsion of the evidence will expose military matters which ... should not be divulged."

The ruling meant that the Air Force did not have to produce an accident report on a 1948 crash of a B-29 testing secret electronic equipment. Reynolds' first husband, Robert Reynolds, was one of three civilian engineers killed.

The current challenge began in 2003, after Herring and other plaintiffs' relatives obtained a copy of the accident report from a Web site selling declassified documents. They discovered that the engine fire that caused the plane to go down was linked to shoddy maintenance.

The new suit alleges the government committed fraud by citing national security in refusing to release the report. The government counters that decisions made 50 years ago shouldn't be second-guessed because it's impossible "to understand how seemingly trivial information contained in these documents may have provided valuable intelligence to the nation's enemies."

The new suit seeks a financial settlement and does not contest the government's right to a secrets privilege. But Herring said she hopes it will lead to a healthy skepticism.

"I feel very strongly ruling was tainted," said Herring, 77, of Carmel, Ind. "My hope would be that people would be more wary and less trusting of anything that's told to them by the government. Everything is not a matter of protecting the national security."


SECRETS POWER DATES TO 1800S


The state secrets privilege is not explicitly authorized by the Constitution or Congress, but has been recognized by federal courts as an extension of the president's power since the early 19th Century.

Used in civil litigation, it allows the government to ask a court to keep certain information secret, on grounds of national security, even if that means dismissing the case.

The modern foundation for the privilege is the Supreme Court's 1953 Reynolds decision, which tries to strike a balance between the rights of judges to review evidence and need of the executive branch to keep secrets.

"It's a balancing test where the court doesn't want to reveal national secrets; at the same time, it doesn't want the executive to use the privilege as a case killer," said Jill Hasday, who teaches national security law at Vanderbilt University.

In general, Hasday said, "the court is very deferential. If the executive says it's a secret, the court basically buys it."

-- Andrew Zajac



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my compliments to mr. Zajac, but he forgot to include a quote from dubya:

"It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love democracy... I love America. The power you give me I will lay down when this crisis has abated. And as my first act with this new authority. I will create a prison camp of the Republic to counter the increasing threats of the terrorists. "

oh wait...my bad stick out tongue


anyway, yeah discuss please

smoker4
Bush = palpatine

Damn you beat me to it in your edit, GW just keeps gettin worse

PVS
yes

PVS
that wasnt an edit, i had to split it into 2 posts

FeceMan
If Bush was Palpatine, that would be so cool. Like, I could be Darth Vader or something.

PVS
no...actually bush is more like vader and cheney is palps laughing out loud

Reborn Again
Hmm. Shall we envoke the JFK clause?

FeceMan
Damn. What am I, Darth Maul? 'Cause Maul sucked. Maybe I'm an evil Luke. Or Yoda. Yeah, an evil Yoda.

WindDancer
Whoah! is been ages since someone made a Bush thread! sleep

ragesRemorse
bush da man

Bush reminds of of that song from fountains of wayne...to cool for school

FeceMan
Waiting for a person unhappy with Bush to come in an make a stupid comment about how he never did go to school...four, three, two...aw, hell, it's probably already happened.

PVS
yeah, ok ya got me there stick out tongue
but its a significant event as opposed to just another opinion thread.

PVS
and that post reminded me of a song from pink floyd..."sheep"

Imperial_Samura
G.W. Bush as Palpantine or Vader? Didn't those two at least have a decent amount of intelligance and the ability to talk in understandable English?

Still, not suprising that such laws are coming into play from our "friends" on the hill. In fact I think it might soon be time for all the sane people to actually flee to the hills.

FeceMan
And that post reminded me of the song, "Don't be a jackass." Huh. That's not a very catchy name.

lil bitchiness
Dont EVER speak like that about Lord Vader again in my presance madcry


Although I see the metaphore working nicely droolio

PVS
well, if anyone supports this can you please explain why instead of the usual random bleating?

"i support the president because........."
holds much more weight than
"bush iz da man!!! ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a ba-a-a-a-a-a-a"

Alpha Centauri
So that's what Bush meant when he said Cheney used the force on him.

-AC

MC Mike
Oh shit. Not again. messed

KidRock
I dont give a shit.. this wont effect my day.

Alpha Centauri
Not much save for a nuclear explosion outside your house would effect your day would it Kid?

-AC

KidRock
I know thats not gonna happen so no it wont effect my day the least bit.

Imaginary
Are you SURE? eek!

shaber
laughing out loud

finti
So much for the golden future, I can't even start
I've had every promise broken, there's anger in my heart
you don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
if you did you'd find yourselves doing the same thing too

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law -Judas Priest

KharmaDog
Oh to be so blindly ignorant and happy.

Rome had Sulla, the US got Bush, History just repeats itself.

chelsea17
I really didn't like Bush in the first placemessed

Jackie Malfoy
You guys and your bush threads.JM roll eyes (sarcastic) laughing

PVS
i wonder if bush blasts that song in his office laughing out loud

PVS
you and your thousands of meaningless nonesense posts roll eyes (sarcastic)

Alpha Centauri
Bush blatantly strolls around blasting that song in his office.

In Rob Halford get up.

-AC

Sadako of Girth
With Rove and Wolfowitz attempting to wail on the twin guitar harmonys...

PVS
GODDAMNIT AC!!! thats alot for burning that image into my mind crybaby

fine then...if i must suffer...YOU ALL WILL SUFFER


http://img238.exs.cx/img238/1508/dudyahalford2ss.jpg

Bardock42
What the f**k?

Anyway, I want to become President of the US. Man all that power droolio

finti
.lol: pvs great picture rock

Sadako of Girth
laughing laughing laughing

DarkCrawler
Bush Jr. is Vader

Bush Sr. is Palpatine

Sr. is the man behind all this. Bush Jr. calls his father everyday.

"Daddy, what I should do today?"

Soon the Senate will be ended.

PVS
i wonder at what point people will say "thats enough"

i wonder if that point even exists

PVS
what amazes me most is the shameful lack of coverage from the 'bias liberal media'.

KharmaDog
You heavily underestimate the apathy of the majority. I refer you to the,
"I dont give a shit.. this wont effect my day." comment.

FeceMan
Of course it won't, since 'effect' is not a verb. smile

KidRock
FOUR MORE YEARS! hahaha

Bardock42
Well lets talk in four years when you are dead because NC bombed your ass away roll eyes (sarcastic)

KidRock
You mean NK, and FOUR MORE YEARS.

Bardock42
No I meant North Carolina .... actually I didn'T embarrasment

Anyway, well Bush deserves these four more years, he was elected by the majority, I just wouldnT have voted for him if I was American, I wouldn'T have voted for Kerry either though.

I personally belive that this two party system in the US sucks

Linkalicious
If North Korea nuked the United States...then North Korea would become the world's largest crater.

Bardock42
We'll see



By the way is it called North Corea or North Korea I read both so far.

Linkalicious
actually i don't think we'll see...

No country in this day and age is dumb enough to start a war off by dropping a nuclear weapon.

An no country the size of Massachusetts with only 8 nuclear weapons should ever take a pop shot at a country 100x it's size with 1200x as many nuclear weapons.

Imaginary
I think Koreans call it North Corea and everyone else calls it North Korea.

Darth Surgent
How old are you?
No, seriously.

PVS
you do realise that you look like a complete ass here, right?

Imperial_Samura
yes

FeceMan
The humor lies in the truth of this statement.

KidRock
Why would I care? Its the internet.. i dont care what i look like in front of these people like you do.. since all your friends are on the "internet" and you must look cool in front of them all.

PVS
cool? no...but i prefer to be known as someone who has an i.q. above that of a carrot...yeah, you got me there. i see you have no such issue.

Imaginary
Hey PVS, KidRock is an idiot, just let it go. He's proved it over and over so there's no point in arguing with him anymore. Just put him on ignore and be done with it.

Reckoning
He really should have figured that he was an idiot already by his username.

KidRock
I really think you should have figured that you are an idiot.. becuase you live in Australia.

Reckoning
Listen to more Kid Rock. It's really healthy for you.

Imperial_Samura
"I really think you should have figured that you are an idiot.. becuase you live in Australia."

Not sure why being an Australian makes one an idiot, but then I guess I am biased, being an Australian and all, so I will shake my head in a bemused manner and chuckle

*shakes head in bemused manner and chuckles.

PVS
kidrock's mission: to derail every thread which he feels is threatening to his sense of blind patriotism, regardless of whether it is truth or opinion.

dont worry dude, if you're so in love with dubya, a few threads are not going to force you to throw away the photos of dubya under your bed which you spackle daily

FeceMan
You do realize that you just brought yourself to his level, right?

PVS
thank you for yet another appraisal of my posts...but i dont care...sorry sad

Bardock42
yes you do...admit it

PVS
no...i really dont no...but i promise i will inform you promptly should i ever begin to care

Bardock42
Thank you sir,...I appreciate that

bilb
Rock you do realize that unless Bush decides to throw out the constitution (and he aint that smart) he is ineligible for another term, right?

Oh and PVS, tell me what to do about this moron (Bush) & I'l sign up, seems voting didnt work, sadly.....l

Imaginary
Australians aren't idiots erm

Bardock42
Leave the US bilb

Lemonade Whiz
confused
I don't know about these "Bushwhacker" Bush-bashing things, but who here wants our troop to come home?

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