Existential Thoughts

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Existential Thoughts

Ok, here's something original by me, I merely plagiarized in the "My view on Phenomenology" thread to see how the the members here would react to some real philosophy - one member - can't remember his name - told me to tone down my word usage - to use simpler words - it just shows that either his vocabulary is rudimentary or that he can't handle real philosophy. Sorry for that anyway.

Cosmic Idea

At some end which will also be some beginning a very smallest detail and every
dimension of complexity of human theory and of the ontological endeavour itself
will be summed up in one phrase of a cosmic principle. This principle will be of
super simplicity and it will truly be the proper description of everything that we
might have called self-consciousness and eternal, infinite absurdity - the unintelligible
nature of Being as such.. Only it shall not be that most absolute description of all
existence, but merely the true answer as to the perplexity of all possible human effort.
We shall thereafter be in an even greater universe of absurd infinity, but the
human problem would be completely nullified and the full reason to it would
be given in one utterly simplistic cosmic description…..

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Consciousness, Creator And Absolute In Separated Conversation

Consciousness:

O flat, one-sided world, in this dimension I am high. But the condition of being is such as the condition itself – Its act is condition and thus the dimensions soar and dive into infinite realms. I am high, but not the top, and there are depths below in doubling eternity.

Creator:

I am your God, man, the single cast of this universe! Creation is my play…what I command you shall not disturb. In swelling time I have cast your every sensation - and in sensing Me, your solid object I will pull you into the loftiest fantasy of mind. But in the failure of being my subject, I will down you in heated selfishness.

Absolute:

I cannot conceive that which elevates me to the stardust and beyond My own will and concept - for only in dreams can clouds be real, unreal or whole.

Consciousness:

Well, can anything continue then without fear of the higher?

Creator:

Why do you allow a higher when high and low are all the same and running off in no direction?

Consciousness:

I neither questioned, nor imagined - I implore some mercy, because none of us are able to ascend with incompetent limbs of the will.

Creator:

I think your question, or fear should be whether I am and if so, whether I formulate you.

Absolute:

I certainly have neither form nor up time.

Creator:

Things will continue as long as they matter and matter while they threat or concur.

Consciousness:

Oh! Damn this…Absolute and Creator are just copulating in my own creation. But what to do? My definition is incomplete and fickle. I am not even what I am, but that I am is the only surety, or is it? All I can do is to question, but my mass seems to think the opposite. My embodiment even claim to be human. Therefore, I ask what is human. What is animal? Is there yet a Human? Has the divide between animal origin and the true human been consummated? Surely not; the human still share the surly, base marks of animal. Only once the human being is without all natural instincts and bodily form, being a pure mind - an abstract intellect, will it be human. However, for now he is still quasi-human striving towards human definition.

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On the concept ‘Cosmos’

The Greek word is: ‘kosmos’

‘Kosmos’ means to order or arrange – also cosmetic – something which beautifies and is pleasant to behold and contemplate.

Thus they say: “The elegantly ordered universe!”

I say it is a selfish, psychological projection – as all are –
of the human will – whatever that means – it longs for a
pleasant environment to dwell in.

We may also mother the conception that it is an ugly
chaos to bare or, that it is neither ordered, nor disordered.

Whatever our feelings and thoughts may be, they are all the
same in that they all refer singularly to the absolute anticipation
of Being itself. Any thought as any other event or, process or,
thing happens as the same instance of Being itself - Everything is Being\Absolute. Continuity direct through and as the Possible as
such. Negation or affirmation, high or low, dreaming and sleeping are all one and the same.

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Magnetic Souls

Thales argued that magnets have souls and that they are alive. He also concluded that everything is full of gods.

Here follows an analysis as to the fundamental truth in what Thales thought:

'Magnets have souls'; plants have souls; humans have souls; etc. - the essence of this according to my own thought is that we can argue that everything is fundamentally the same - everything is one - or more fundamentally even, the one is the other. One thing is exactly and ontologically what the other thing is. There is such infinite continuity 'between entities' to the extent that there are no entities, but only flat continuity. It is static in the 'most' absolute sense in that the one thing is literally the other.
More on the theme of 'souls in all' - (self)-consciousness not only mimics any other physical process in nature, but is all other processes. Explosion; Photo replication; chemical reaction; thinking, photosynthesis, sleeping; sound; etc. are all the same - the one is the other. Anything signifies the nothingness in continuity or, being in functional anticipation. Being only has one status or condition\dimension - that of Being\Absolute as such.

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Any comments would be appreciated.

Some interesting observations, but it's a bit too philosophical for me.

Interesting....I need to give all this some thought...I do though feel that we are all interconnected in a way that we are only now starting to find out about. We think that we are all separate, but we really aren't.

At the core, we are really consciousness that is searching for answers.
Trying to understand the what we are and why...and in doing so, we cling to different belief systems...

Yes, all is one - that's what I think. There are no seperate entities - we really are all part of one being - call that god if you want.

Re: Existential Thoughts

Originally posted by Player

[B]Consciousness, Creator And Absolute In Separated Conversation

Consciousness:

O flat, one-sided world, in this dimension I am high. But the condition of being is such as the condition itself – Its act is condition and thus the dimensions soar and dive into infinite realms. I am high, but not the top, and there are depths below in doubling eternity.

Creator:

I am your God, man, the single cast of this universe! Creation is my play…what I command you shall not disturb. In swelling time I have cast your every sensation - and in sensing Me, your solid object I will pull you into the loftiest fantasy of mind. But in the failure of being my subject, I will down you in heated selfishness.

Absolute:

I cannot conceive that which elevates me to the stardust and beyond My own will and concept - for only in dreams can clouds be real, unreal or whole.

Consciousness:

Well, can anything continue then without fear of the higher?

Creator:

Why do you allow a higher when high and low are all the same and running off in no direction?

Consciousness:

I neither questioned, nor imagined - I implore some mercy, because none of us are able to ascend with incompetent limbs of the will.

Creator:

I think your question, or fear should be whether I am and if so, whether I formulate you.

Absolute:

I certainly have neither form nor up time.

Creator:

Things will continue as long as they matter and matter while they threat or concur.

Consciousness:

Oh! Damn this…Absolute and Creator are just copulating in my own creation. But what to do? My definition is incomplete and fickle. I am not even what I am, but that I am is the only surety, or is it? All I can do is to question, but my mass seems to think the opposite. My embodiment even claim to be human. Therefore, I ask what is human. What is animal? Is there yet a Human? Has the divide between animal origin and the true human been consummated? Surely not; the human still share the surly, base marks of animal. Only once the human being is without all natural instincts and bodily form, being a pure mind - an abstract intellect, will it be human. However, for now he is still quasi-human striving towards human definition.
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Originally posted by Philosophicus
Consciousness, Creator and Absolute In Separated Conversation

Consciousness:

O flat, one-sided world, in this dimension I am high. But the condition of being is such as the condition itself – Its act is condition and thus the dimensions soar and dive into infinite realms. I am high, but not the top, and there are depths below in doubling eternity.

Creator:

I am your God, man, the single cast of this universe! Creation is my play…what I command you shall not disturb. In swelling time I have cast your every sensation - and in sensing Me, your solid object I will pull you into the loftiest fantasy of mind. But in the failure of being my subject, I will down you in heated selfishness.

Absolute:

I cannot conceive that which elevates me to the stardust and beyond My own will and concept - for only in dreams can clouds be real, unreal or whole.

Consciousness:

Well, can anything continue then without fear of the higher?

Creator:

Why do you allow a higher when high and low are all the same and running off in no direction?

Consciousness:

I neither questioned, nor imagined - I implore some mercy, because none of us are able to ascend with incompetent limbs of the will.

Creator:

I think your question, or fear should be whether I am and if so, whether I formulate you.

Absolute:

I certainly have neither form nor up time.

Creator:

Things will continue as long as they matter and matter while they threat or concur.

Consciousness:

Oh! Damn this…Absolute and Creator are just copulating in my own creation. But what to do? My definition is incomplete and fickle. I am not even what I am, but that I am is the only surety, or is it? All I can do is to question, but my mass seems to think the opposite. My embodiment even claim to be human. Therefore, I ask what is human. What is animal? Is there yet a Human? Has the divide between animal origin and the true human been consummated? Surely not; the human still share the surly, base marks of animal. Only once the human being is without all natural instincts and bodily form, being a pure mind - an abstract intellect, will it be human. However, for now he is still quasi-human striving towards human definition.


renske

I was the one who told you to tone down your words, Sir Plagiarized-alot, and I'm willing to wager you didn't write this either. This body of work comes from a life-time of dedication and sacrifice, questioning the world, and formulating an observate conclusion about self-worth.

It has the "stink" of the same author you plagiarized before. The wording and the feel of the work is the same. If you indeed wrote this, so me a written drift.

I' m convinced now Philosophicus.

Useless Knowledge:
Magnetism:

Thales argued that magnets have souls and that they are alive. He also concluded that everything is full of gods. Here follows an analysis as to the fundamental truth in what Thales thought:

'Magnets have souls'; plants have souls; humans have souls; etc. - the essence of this according to my own thought is that we can argue that everything is fundamentally the same - everything is one - or more fundamentally even, the one is the other. One thing is exactly and ontologically what the other thing is. There is such infinite continuity 'between entities' to the extent that there are no entities, but only flat continuity. It is static in the 'most' absolute sense in that the one thing is literally the other.

More on the theme of 'souls in all' - (self)- consciousness not only mimics any other physical process in nature, but is all other processes. Explosion; Photo replication; chemical reaction; thinking, photosynthesis, sleeping; sound; etc. are all the same - the one is the other. Anything signifies the nothingness in continuity or, being in functional anticipation. Being only has one status or condition\dimension - that of Being\Absolute as such.

Originally posted by Storm
I' m convinced now [b]Philosophicus.

Useless Knowledge:
Magnetism:

Thales argued that magnets have souls and that they are alive. He also concluded that everything is full of gods. Here follows an analysis as to the fundamental truth in what Thales thought:

'Magnets have souls'; plants have souls; humans have souls; etc. - the essence of this according to my own thought is that we can argue that everything is fundamentally the same - everything is one - or more fundamentally even, the one is the other. One thing is exactly and ontologically what the other thing is. There is such infinite continuity 'between entities' to the extent that there are no entities, but only flat continuity. It is static in the 'most' absolute sense in that the one thing is literally the other.

More on the theme of 'souls in all' - (self)- consciousness not only mimics any other physical process in nature, but is all other processes. Explosion; Photo replication; chemical reaction; thinking, photosynthesis, sleeping; sound; etc. are all the same - the one is the other. Anything signifies the nothingness in continuity or, being in functional anticipation. Being only has one status or condition\dimension - that of Being\Absolute as such. [/B]

See, Reborn Again! It is my own work. Congrats Storm!

Hmmm...

But if you're such an intelligent person, why did you plagiarize before? And since your secret is out, change your location to South Africa instead of Canada. That's insulting to Canadians. I'm a Canadian.

I did tell the reason for plagiarising - I wanted to see the reaction to someone elses philosophy - if the reaction like 'fancy words' would also apply...and it did.

Simply put I always felt that our lives are not what they seem. I always refer to one single event that I cannot shake yet everyone of us have experienced at some part of our lives and yet cannot explain. The deja vu effect. Perhaps are lives are not truly our own and we live in a higher being's thought. Perhaps we live in the Creator's reverie which would support that we are all somehow connected amongst one another.

I agree. We are all interconnected and just now finding out about it. It's very powerful once you do realize it.

*cough*

Re: Existential Thoughts

Originally posted by Player
- one member - can't remember his name - told me to tone down my word usage - to use simpler words - it just shows that either his vocabulary is rudimentary or that he can't handle real philosophy. Sorry for that anyway.
pff.. if that little tidbit was for me.. Im not the one who needs a thesaurus to go rambling about some agnostic nonsense, pawning it off as some world wide mystery... and yes.. I suggested that you tone down your word useage so that your message will come across a broader audience, rather than confining your discussion with other, like-minded thesaurus users.. you then semi-agreed, and soon after sent me some stupid note about how you suffer from a myriad of mental disorders, to which I didnt even pay heed since its your stale cut, copy, paste crutch for when people start getting pissed off at you

No Satsujin, the comment was directed at me. I asked him to tone down his language. But there's no use in making conversation with him now, he's been banned from the site... until he makes another handle, that is. Yet despite it, what thoughts he had, whether they were his or someone elses, were intriguing. If only he could be well behaved, he'd be great to talk with. Oh well, back to my dungeon of thoughts.

Who ever wrote these 'existential thoughts' is pretty damn intelligent. They really are intriguing.

nah just a pseudo intellectual

You can't call it pseudo intellectual, as they are real, honest thoughts by the look of it. Do you appreciate philosophy at all???????