SW Insider #81: Online Supplement

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prod_
here:

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/insideronline/

can someone please post pics!?!?!

I heard there are many new pics?!?!

mandalorian_war
there are 28 pics but i cant seem to get on the os

Mist
*seizure*
can this week get any better? seriously.

Mist
28!!!! eek!
*faints*
*wakes up, checks time, only thursday, goes back to sleep*

prod_
here is one I FOUND!!!!

IT IS FRIKIN AWESOME!!!!!

do u think the part that GG gets killed??!?!!?

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/72/26copy4uf.jpg

prod_
28!?!?!?!

frikin awesome...here is a hihger rez of the one we have seen before:

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/6244/duel1pi.jpg

Mist
sad i thought obiwan killed grievous with his own tank thingy sad

mandalorian_war
ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING HOW BOUT THE REST

Mist
sidious, sidious, sidious, seriously, george lucas looks like an ewok.

noobone
wow, wonderfull

thanks prod

prod_
Originally posted by mandalorian_war
ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING HOW BOUT THE REST

I AM TRYING!!!!

Mist
ok, no one post until the pics have been posted, we dont want to spam the living hell out of this thread.

JKozzy
The pics are AWESOME eek! Heh, about time something were posted for HS members that wasn't leaked... stick out tongue

Torik_Shai
Hoozah!

Sadako of Girth
punk

Sting_2003
ill be posting the pics shortly

JKozzy
Nat's hair is pretty, too happy

prod_
thank u sting 2003!!!


cant wait to see em!!!

mandalorian_war
thanks sting in advance

noobone
Originally posted by Sting_2003
ill be posting the pics shortly

thanks

ctsketch
you rock sting!

JKozzy
That picture of Anakin looking over Mustafar... looks like right before the duel...

mandalorian_war
sites back up

Sting_2003
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/6921/14dq.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/6640/27gy.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/7550/37hb.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/5219/42wp.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/5657/54hw.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/1056/67tp.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/117/71nb.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/9325/83uw.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/7190/90ng.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/3558/106ny.jpg

....MORE COMING

JKozzy
Looks like Dooku is giving his final sentence in that picture... kinda depressing sad

darthmonkey9206
OMFGGGG

Mist
OMG. as if this movie couldnt get any better.
THANK YOU YOU ARE THE MAN!!!

JKozzy
Anakin still looks like a midget messed

And Mace pointing his saber! eek!

mandalorian_war
THANKS

Mist
whats with the second pic? it looks like someones flying a spaceship inside a big disco club????

Sting_2003
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/4131/111bl.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/3324/120kn.jpg

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/1972/135ad.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/46/145xz.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/9684/151mx1.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/3452/161kw.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/358/174dh.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/5435/187bm.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7341/190wa.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/7439/209hq.jpg

...MORE TO COME

Torik_Shai
It looks like a lot of these could be from the trailer.

JKozzy
Looks like a happy moment... one of the few of Ep3... near the transport from Ep2

Mist
ok, i take it its the theater scene.

Sadako of Girth
Holy shit.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shocking
HOW evil does sidious look....????!!!

You are the man Sting...! Cheers mate......!!! ban2

Mist
OMFG!!! OMFG!!! MACE RULES!!!

JKozzy
And Palps... what a devious look on his Seperatist face eek!

Sting_2003
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/6136/210ag.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/6994/226fv.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/3348/233jj.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/872/247ie.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/8981/250mu.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/4156/261iw.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/1462/273bl.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/3279/282tj.jpg

...AND THATS IT!

mandalorian_war
padme is so hot love

prod_
thanks man!!!!!

CG-Realms
Awesome! Great hold over until the trailer comes through. Visually alone, this film is going to be a work of art.

Torik_Shai
Thanks a lot, dude! These kick ass! SLJ is going to own this movie (until he dies, then it's Ian all the way)!

Sting_2003
HERE IS THE LINK TO A HTML PAGE WITH ALL THE IMAGES IN IT

http://home.comcast.net/~coolikan1/starwars.htm

JKozzy
Gee, that'll be taken down by LFL in a few hours stick out tongue

DarthAJ
Oh God! Sidous looks like a croos between a delerious smurf and the pillsbary dough boy! I can hear it now. that evil laughter when you poke his stomach.

prod_
soooooooooo many new pics!!!

Sting_2003
there is pics of the droids too

mandalorian_war
get em please

prod_

mandalorian_war
u rock sting and prod

Sting_2003
ummm the site is down right now for me.

astrofan428
Is the pic with Ani and Obi laughing a scene from the movie or them just screwing around?

Alliance
AMAZING. AMAZING. AMAZING. AMAZING. AMAZING.

A M A Z I N G

Torik_Shai
It has to be a scene from the movie. There's a background.

astrofan428
Originally posted by Torik_Shai
It has to be a scene from the movie. There's a background.

Ah yes, good call.

prod_
yeah...I think it is a scene from the movie...ha ha...doesnt seem like it eh???I never thought I would see em laughing together ever again!

"u rock sting and prod"

thanks!

but it was all STING....for posting the awesome frikin emages!!!!

astrofan428
Oh yeah I forgot to say with all the happy photo debate crap, but yeah kick ass picks man!

Alliance
That is definately the theater scene. I had heard there was to be a Mon Calimari Dancer (It was one of the first public Art Of Revenge) inside a suspended ball of water. It looks like that to me!

mungulla_man44
clicking and saving..clicking and saving big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin

felucia looks AWESOME!!! big grin big grin big grin big grin

noobone
thanx sting and prod smile


here's the 28 pics zipped

http://rapidshare.de/files/820824/insider81.zip.html

Darth Nazgul
OMFG they are absoloutely awesome

Darth Nikana
whoa....... awesome frickin pictures. greatly appreciate it Sting and Prod. you guys rule.... those pictures rule. ROTS will rule them all

Padme/Natalie so sad sad sad yet so eek! eek! eek!

Anakin has the mad mad look down

Darth_Decimator
eek! eek! Happy Dance Happy Dance eek! eek!

theshakl
what about the written material?

BAILY
it is all good stuff

Darth Nazgul
Hey can someone tell us what the written material is ?

BAILY
it consists of letters and numbers strategically placed to form words and sentences...

Mist
i hope Obi pops grievous right between the eyes......

Darth Nazgul
Hey I was just wondering what grievous' screen time will be. ie will it be more or less than Jango

Mist
probably about the same. if your talking action, probably slightly longer.
its anyones guess really.

mossman
Good work, Sting - cheers Happy Dance

Naredhel
Obi pops Grevious in the stomach (spilling his guts) and the Anakin/Yoda dialogue follows his nightmare he has about Padme dying...


... right?

Dart Saber
Right. Great pics!

mossman

smoker4
NIce pics guys, thanx

TheForceSupreme
Thank you, Sting_2003. cool

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Part 2 Written Excerpt
Because the stories are out there. Not on the HoloNet, of course -- the HoloNet news is under the control of the Office of the Supreme Chancellor, and not even Palpatine's renowned candor would allow tales like these to be told--but people hear whispers. Whispers of names that the Jedi would like to pretend never existed.

Sora Bulq. Depa Billaba. Jedi who have fallen to the dark. Who have joined the Separatists, or worse: who have massacred civilians, or even murdered their comrades. The adults have a sickening suspicion that Jedi cannot be trusted. Not anymore. That even the greatest of them can suddenly just . . . snap.

The adults know that legendary heroes are merely legends, and not heroes at all.

These adults can take no comfort from their younglings. Palpatine is captured. Grievous will escape. The Republic will fall. No mere human beings can turn this tide. No mere human beings would even try. Not even Kenobi and Skywalker.

And so it is that these adults across the galaxy watch the HoloNet with ashes where their hearts should be.

Ashes because they can't see two prismatic bursts of realspace reversion, far out beyond the planet's gravity well; because they can't see a pair of starfighters crisply jettison hyperdrive rings and streak into the storm of Separatist vulture fighters with all guns blazing.

A pair of starfighters. Jedi starfighters. Only two.

Two is enough.

Two is enough because the adults are wrong, and their younglings are right.

Though this is the end of the age of heroes, it has saved its best for last.

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Written stuff #3
The Making of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Excerpt
March 09, 2005

To get a feel of the dynamic layout and presentation of The Making of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, Del Rey Books is pleased to first share these downloadable PDF-format spreads with Hyperspace members. Click on the thumbnails below to begin your download.
The Making of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith is due out April 2nd.

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Ironically enough, while the Jedi only had marginal success in finding any connection between the Force and droids, mostly through the observation of the instinctual tendencies some Jedi such as Cay Qel-Droma and Anakin Solo exhibited toward fixing machinery, the first real proof of a correlation between the Force and droids came from the Sith. It is believed that through their bizarre alchemies, the Sith somehow stumbled upon the ability to manipulate mechanicals of complex nature through the Force: ships, computers, and, indeed, even droids. This power, known as mechu-deru, was responsible for the creation of Belia Darzu's infamous Technobeasts, which were capable of rewriting an organism's entire genetic code.

Needless to say, the idea that droids could only be touched by the Force through dark magicks discouraged the majority of Jedi from further researching the issue. It also didn't help that 'borgs -- sentients that had been fitted with extensive prosthetics or cybernetic enhancements -- such as the Clone Wars veteran Kligson and the bounty hunter Gorm the Dissolver, often exhibited explicitly deviant social behaviors. It was also a matter of record that Force-sensitive "cybered" beings generally demonstrated added difficulty in accessing the light side of the Force, at least initially, and often demonstrated a greater susceptibility to the dark side. Many a Jedi, including Even Piell and Tenel Ka, in part rejected prosthetics for these reasons. Doctors and Jedi Masters postulated that cybernetics made one "less human," reducing a person's empathy, but the accuracy of this theory was plagued by the gaps that persist in A.S. understanding, not to mention the omnipresence of droid prejudice. Certainly, great Jedi like King Empatojayos Brand and Daye Azur-Jamin would have much to say against this accusation of reduced humanity -- both lost more than half their organic selves, but a more just monarch and conscientious man are not easily found.

2. New Advances

Many things changed with the coming of Palpatine's New Order, to put it mildly, among them the Jedi taboo against researching the connection between the Force and mechanicals. The Emperor needed tools, tools that could be used to locate and detain the Jedi. Many Jedi had long maintained that the Force could not be empirically measured, nor synthetically manufactured. They were in a sense quite wrong, and this proved detrimental, as the effects of the Jedi Purge show. Perhaps because they could not see the Force, Palpatine's scientists could not be blinded by its wondrous light. They dissected the Force, treating it not as a supernatural phenomenon, but reducing it to its mere physical components: midi-chlorians and energy. With the morality of light and darkness no longer at issue, a cadre of Palpatine's super-scientists that included Umak Leth, Borborygmus Gog, and Lord Cronal sought to bridge the gap between technology and the Force with an aggression and reckless abandon never before applied. The result was three of the instruments most dreaded by the Jedi: the Essence Stealer, the Universal Energy Cage, and the Force Detector.

Procuring a Ssi-ruuvi battle droid vessel at an exorbitant price from rare ship collector Raith Sienar, Borborygmus Gog feverishly worked to discover the secrets of Ssi-ruuvi entechment -- a process by which a being's life-force could be stripped from his or her body and transferred to a mechanical construct (for the Ssi-ruuk, typically a droid ship). Gog succeeded in creating a soul-stealing machine able to rip the life-essence from a being and contain it within a giant computer-linked crystal matrix, while the comatose bodies were put in cryostasis in adjacent transparisteel containers. Setting the machine up within the old Jedi library on the abandoned Nespis VIII space station, Gog had hoped to trap the spirit of a Jedi for study. Yet, while his machine ensnared many life-forces, Gog was unable to capture a Force-sensitive, or at least not for long -- the Jedi he caught invariably willed themselves to die rather than partake in the evil experiment. No matter. Jedi philosophers had long stated that the Force was generated by all living things to a greater or lesser degree, and the Emperor's scientists found this to be true of the life-forces they captured.

The Essence Stealer was eventually destroyed during the Rebellion by the young Zak and Tash Arranda, who went on to become great Jedi in their own right. The freed spirits returned to their bodies if they were still preserved, and the rest went on to become one with the Force. It is suspected, however, that this particular machine was but one of several that were set up by Gog.

Building on the work of the demented researcher Jenna Zan Arbor, the scientists were able to study the trapped spirits endlessly, harnessing the energy field they created, and testing it. Its power was incredible. No energy source could rival it. A curiosity they did notice was the relation between the field and the incredibly durable Mandalorian iron: they found that the metal could not be affected by the Force energy field, this effect peculiar only to iron from Mandalore and not "normal" iron. The scientists mistakenly believed then that this odd iron could actually suppress the Force energy field. This proved untrue, though the metal did make for effective Jedi containment devices, as seen with Imperial Dungeon ships and Mandalorian handcuffs. However, it is suspected that the ysalamiri of Myrkr, creatures known for their ability to dampen the Force, could owe their unique gift to their ability to process the great quantities of Mandalorian iron to be found in the trees that serve as both home and nutrition for the creatures. It is suspected that the trees were transplanted at some point from Mandalore.

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With the research gathered by the Essence Stealer, the floodgates were flung open. The scientist Umak Leth was able to design, among other weapons, the Universal Energy Cage. The cage was specifically designed to detain Jedi, annulling their powers by turning their very Force against them. But as an extra precaution, the cage was wrapped in a sphere of electron ray energy, the same used to contain the ionized plasma of reactor cores. This added precaution made it possible to hold any variety of creature, from the mystical Jedi to an enraged Herglic.

Another device that was realized during this period was the Force Detector. Originally designed though never implemented by Jenna Zan Arbor, and put to heinous use by the Inquisitors and others during the Jedi Purge, the Force Detector was often thought of as the epitome of the evil that could come from merging technology with the Force. A three-component system, the Force detector consisted of a control pack and two sheet-crystal readers -- transparent paddles slightly larger than an average humanoid hand. To operate the device, these paddles had to be inserted into the control pack, then aimed and bracketed around the subject. The device then scanned the subject in question, constructing a wire-frame hologram of him or her that hovered above the control pack. This wire frame had color-coded lines corresponding to an adjacent numbers column that scrolled out data such as height, weight, approximate age, and midi-chlorian count.

Similar to the tracking methods used by Sith probe droids, a blue nimbus would appear around the wire-frame hologram. This was not a simple representation of the midi-chlorian potency of a subject. In fact, it was not even originally one of Arbor's specifications for the device. Of the 10,000 Force Detectors that were made, the Emperor requested that every one be passed into the hands of his Dark Side Mage Lord Cronal, so that he could apply his "Science of Darkness." Using thaissen crystals acquired from the mines of Circarpous V, Lord Cronal adapted traditional lightsaber construction techniques to give the devices ability to identify the magnitude of Force potential in a given test subject and, amazingly, any dark side inclinations as well. These inclinations manifested themselves as blue and red auras, respectively. The other Imperial scientists were of course too proud to admit the possibility that despite all their perceived empirical expertise there were aspects of the Force they still could not begin to understand.

Most of these units have been destroyed or have disappeared since the great purge, but in a poetic twist of fate, Master Skywalker recovered a few and used them to identify candidates for resurrecting the Jedi Order. However, in an echo of the Dark Times, the dark Jedi Brakiss stole several of these when he flew from the Jedi Praxeum, and used them in turn to identify candidates for his Shadow Academy. Master Skywalker has since disdained their use, but it is well known that Master Kyp Durron used one to detect the Force-sensitivity in his Padawan Miko Reglia, and that Durron advocates the construction of more of these devices.

Later, the technologically-minded Imperial scientists made even greater advances, pushing technology into direct interface with the Force as produced by living beings, with astounding, if not always cautiously realized, results.

One such breakthrough was Nasdra Magrody's subelectronic converter. As most know, Magrody was a near-human Arkanian and one of the original Death Star designers. But he was also a closet Force-sensitive, reluctant --indeed, scared to death -- to reveal his special abilities. And yet he could not suppress his desire to explore the legacy he'd inherited. Magrody methodically taught himself to do what came naturally to most Force-users: "to influence the energy field by means of thought wave concentrations" (i.e. to use the Force). But Magrody's scientific nature also inclined him to challenge the idea that the Force could not affect complex machinery such as droids. In his essays, "The Light Side of the Subelectronic Force," and "The Universal Energy Field," Magrody speculated the possibility of implanting a subelectronic converter in the brain of a being with the ability to use the Force, similar to Arkanian experiments with the Yaka. This would allow that person to manipulate droids through the Force, or in Magrody's words to "influence artificial intelligences of varying complexities at the individual synaptic level."

His suggestions were largely ignored by the scientific community...but not by the Emperor's Hand, Roganda Ismaren. She kidnapped Magrody, forcing him to realize this hypothetical device and implant it into her son Irek. The lethal potential of the subelectronic converter was seen in the last decades, with the Ismarens' resurrection of the Eye of Palpatine and ultimately the conversion of Irek into a mechanical monster himself.

Another breakthrough was the creation of the remarkable Shadow Droids. Unlike the Haor Chall vulture droid or robotic TIE/D, Shadow Droids were built around the living brains of fallen starfighter aces. Engineer extraordinaire Umak Leth never wholly understood Borborygamus Gog's Ssi-ruuvi research, but he was able to grasp enough of it to marry the bizarre technology with established cyber pilot systems, which combined brain matter with machine but had previously been used only for space exploration vessels. As with the Force Detector, Palpatine again demonstrated his contempt for a purely scientific approach to the Force by blessing this obtuse marriage between organic and inorganic matter with a touch of the dark side, giving the fighters a "sixth sense" in combat.

But like the Ssi-ruuvi technology after which it was patterned, the fusion of living tissue and droid components was incongruous, achieved purely through cold mathematical brutishness, and lent itself easily to decay. While initially compliant, eventually the human sentiences of the Shadow Droids yearned for fulfillment of death like a Charon cultist. This desire was then fueled by its own dark side energies, destroying the delicate cyborg interface and causing the Shadow Droid to degenerate into immobile cyberostasis at best, or insanity at worst. This perceived glitch was later rectified by installing hardware that stripped the brain matter of any remaining humanity. Thus, while the droids were undoubtedly conscious, they do not exhibit one iota of a sentient conscience.

Nevertheless, Shadow Droids were the first real success in emulating the joining of Force and sentient-programming of the fabled Iron Knights. But again, the marriage was marred by the dark side. Upon reflection, the most scientifically-minded of Skywalker's resurging Jedi, such as Cray Mingla, abandoned all hope that machines could be manipulated by means other than Sith mechu-deru. All Jedi, that is, save for the Iron Knights themselves...and their symbionts, the Shard.

3. The Shard

One hundred years before the fall of the Old Republic, scouts encountered the crystal-like Shard on the planet Orax. Silicone-based lifeforms, the Shard are immobile, growing in clusters along rocks near the mineral-rich springs of their homeworld. Able to sense and produce electromagnetic charges, the Shard share a collective-consciousness. It is only through this electromagnetism that the Shard are able to perceive anything, and thanks to it that they are gifted with a facility for mechanical manipulation. They were naturally intrigued by the Republic scouts' droids.

Only a few dozen Shard took to the idea of separating from the group-mind, but those that did immediately formed a strong symbiotic relationship with their droids. The two entities complemented one another perfectly, the droid giving a Shard mobility as well as a variety of modes of perception, and a Shard in turn giving the droid a decidedly living quality, as well as rights equal to all other organic sentients. In this way, Shard and droid both were able to explore the galaxy and a multitude of new experiences.

Then Palpatine's New Order emerged, and with it a shameless prejudice against aliens and disdain for droids unlike ever before. The Shard ambassadors, belonging to both parties, were doubly disparaged, and many were killed, dismantled, and destroyed. Most pretended to be mere servile droids to escape execution.

There were some Shard, however, that were still more persecuted, for they were a menace in yet another sense. For not only were they droids, and not only were they aliens, they were Jedi.

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4. The Iron Knights

While most have forgotten the Iron Knights, fewer still remember that this name was not originally intended to be a flattering one. So named by other Jedi because, like early theories concerning Mandalorian Iron, they repulsed many in the Jedi Knighthood, it is a testament to the Iron Knights abilities that they made the name into a respectful one.

Of all the Shard that left Orax, only the one calling herself "Ilum" could feel the Force. But from that lone Shard sprung an entire family of Force-sensitives. While most Shard ambassadors fused with whatever droids were willing to host them, Ilum and several of her kin took the bodies of deactivated Juggernaut War Droids -- once dreaded during the Great Droid Revolution -- re-igniting the automaton consciousnesses within. While the warbots gave them unrivaled physical prowess, the Shard in turn gave something to their droid symbionts that had once been thought inconceivable -- the power of the Force.

Given the varying degrees of droid prejudice among the general public, as well as the Jedi themselves, finding a Jedi Master willing to school Ilum and her kin proved less than simple. But there were a few that advocated research in the area of Force influence on droids. The Sunesi Jedi Master Aqinos -- who had trained several Jedi students in his time from Coruscant's Jedi Temple to Master Djinn Altis' unorthodox roving Chu'unthor Academy -- sought out Ilum, and secretly trained her and her dozen off-spring on the planet Dweem in an abandoned Republic base used during the threat of the Terrible Glare. However, when the Clone Wars erupted, Jedi Knights were shocked to encounter Force-endowed, lightsaber-wielding FLTCH series droids, Uulshos Justice Droids, and Juggernaut War Droids fighting along side them. Master Aqinos's involvement was soon exposed, and for his "presumptuousness" and "highly dangerous initiative," the Jedi Council excommunicated he and his Iron Knights from the Knighthood. Funding for droid-Force interface research, which had never endeared itself to the Council, was systematically eliminated.

However, there was no ignoring the good that the Iron Knights did during the war. Those that survived were elevated to the rank of high marshal by the Republic Chancellor. However, it was soon apparent that the move was politically motivated, more in the interest of gaining the support of the Coalition of Automaton Rights Activists than in rewarding true heroism and the Iron Knights soon found themselves without support. Unwanted, Aqinos retreated with most of the Iron Knights to their stronghold on Dweem. Other Iron Knights continued to serve the Republic despite the prejudices they faced. They were among the first casualties of the Jedi Purge.

Approximately two years after establishing his Jedi Praxeum, using clues the Old Republic Jedi Callista Ming had provided in conversation with Master Skywalker, a group of his students successfully tracked the estranged metal defenders to their base on Dweem. There, Master Aqinos and the Iron Knights had resided for seventy years, and were more than ready to rejoin the Knighthood to help establish a new Jedi Order.

Of course, when the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Known Galaxy, droid-kind again found itself under assault. This time, however, droids had their High Marshals to defend them. The Iron Knights successfully repelled attacks by anti-technologists such as the Red Knights of Life on the planets Osarian and Uffel and reportedly even saved Kligson's Moon (known as "Droid World"wink from Yuuzhan Vong attack. However, the decimation of the Hosk space station is known to have prompted the fall of at least one Iron Knight to the dark side.

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5. Conclusions

The question persists: can droids feel the Force without a living mediator? For many, the distinction is probably academic at this point, but under the New Republic's strivings toward droid representation, and especially in light of the recent rise of anti-droid groups spurred by the Yuuzhan Vong's hatred for all technology, the question has begun to find strong voice among droids' rights lobbyists. Perhaps the most promise for direct affectation of the Force by a droid was to be found in the infamous bounty hunter 4-LOM who, according to Master Skywalker, insisted on his self-awareness and who purportedly learned to see visions of possible futures from the Gand findsman Zuckuss. Sadly, the droid never pursued instruction, and the droid's lifestyle is not encouraging for those wanting to disassociate mechanical manipulation of the Force from the dark side. Of course, it would be shortsighted to say that all bounty hunters are evil. Also, for their part, the Iron Knights have never demonstrated any more susceptibility to the dark side than the average wholly organic Jedi.

To those who continue to insist that affecting mechanicals and technology through the Force is the way of the dark side, there still remain simple counter-arguments: what of lightsabers then? Do these devices not help attune a Jedi's living Force? What of holocrons? Are they not considered among the greatest wonders of the Jedi, inspiring awe even in the worldliest Jedi Masters? And yet both are technological derivatives.

Jedi Master Aqinos once addressed these questions: "I have heard the hypocritical argument that 'technology' and 'droids' are not the same thing, which of course only makes sense if droids are in fact conscious, and thus in some sense indeed alive. Instead of wasting my breath refuting this statement, I will address the stronger rebuttal that admits of a connection between droids and technology, that is that the channeling of the Force through lightsabers and holocrons is a purely 'inobtrusive' act, unlike the aggressive manipulation of, say, mechu-deru.

"Perhaps. The same weak argument has been made to contrast Jedi use of affect mind, and its so-called 'dark' counterpart control mind. Is this what we have been reduced to, petty semantics, returned to the dark age of Plaristes? We must be wiser than this. I am reminded of the time when I was still a Padawan, and my Master Jaled Dur led me to a row of rocks sorted in size from pebbles no larger than a fingernail, to boulders the size of, well, a mountain. Every Jedi knows the story of Master Ferleen Snee who lifted the Muntuur Stones with ease, and I ached at my chance to similarly prove myself. I viewed the smaller pebbles condescendingly, knowing the ease with which I'd be able to lift them, and I looked at the mountain standing on the opposite end, feeling it would be impossible to move. But as I brought my attention to the middle way, I felt certain I could lift the boulder equal in size to me. Then my eyes moved to those rocks of progressively greater size. And I knew I could lift the next one, and the next, and the next, knowing the only difference was in my mind... But when I tried to actually levitate that mountain, to no one's surprise but my own, I could not. Nor the boulder before it, nor the one before that.

"There is a definite and unmistakable line one cannot cross, regardless of belief. It is finding that definite line, that balance, that being a Jedi is about. Between light and darkness, living and unifying Force. It is that balance I have striven to find among organics and inorganics, among droids and the Force, between life and death. Do our bodies not require dead minerals for sustenance, do not mynocks and space slugs, more rock than beast, still live? My skin has grayed, and my eyes have gone stale in this pursuit, but by the Maker, I regret nothing. My memory has blunted the exact position of the line I found that day with Master Dur among those lifeless rocks, but what I do remember is how vibrantly those same lifeless rocks gave off the emanations of the Force." (Master Aqinos died during the war with the Yuuzhan Vong).

Since the end of the war, the Iron Knights -- along with the great majority of the galaxy -- have struggled to view the invaders as anything other than their mortal enemies. But like their teacher, they too, hope and struggle to find that balance of which Master Aqinos spoke.

It is the hope of serious researchers and droids alike that one day immorality concerning the exploration of the correlation between droids and the Force will cease to be the lopsided issue that it is. Many years of investigation and patience still lay ahead, for the general populace and the Jedi as well.

LandoSpeeder2
Thanks spoilerman!

jjwil76
geez---that last bit felt like science class all over again.

OB1-adobe
I love digital finished shots. big grin cool big grin


All props go to this weeks MVP's: Prod and STING



We have come a long way since just seeing actors with the amazing backgrounds of blue and green.

April 1st is IlM's deadline guys. Just think, in 2 weeks the film will pretty much be in the can. The music is done, the editiing is probably done.
All they do after that is a bunch of sound mixing and editing stuff, then it starts getting shipped around the 1st week of May.

prod_
THANKS SPOILERMAN!!!!!

jjwil76
movies are an amazing process. to think that at this point it's still not completely finished is a testament to how much these guys pour into this franchise. with so many steaming turd flicks out there, it's nice to have something to look forward to.

well, star wars and xXx part2 of course, with ice cube. boy, that sounds like a masterpiece!

OB1-adobe
I think Sidious in that pic just found out they are having 2 for 1 at the intergalactic Krispy Kream.

Naredhel
xXx??? You're putting that shit in the same category as Star Wars? erm blink

jjwil76
Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I think Sidious in that pic just found out they are having 2 for 1 at the intergalactic Krispy Kream.

yeah, fat face and bad teeth. why does anakin want to hang out with this guy? oh yeah.....ULTIMATE POWER!! MMMUUUUUAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHA!!! evil face

ahem. sorry 'bout that.

jjwil76

LightSaber_Part
SWEEET!!!!!
Thank you Sting_2003 and spoilerman.

LightSaber_Part
Originally posted by spoilerman

PDF Files Here
http://rapidshare.de/files/823742/sheet1.pdf.html
http://www.revengeofthesith.4t.com/sheet2.pdf
http://www.revengeofthesith.4t.com/sheet3.pdf


Sheet#2 and Sheet#3 don't work sad could some one repost smile

darthmonkey9206
new link?

DARTH STEVIOUS
rubish old news never post here again

darthmonkey9206
lol, newbs can be weird (and yes i am if you look at the post count)

lordjade
Originally posted by darthmonkey9206
new link?
Please ... s2 and s3 links don't work

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