That would be entirely correct. He's a whiny little kid. Carter though, is still a pretty amazing player with an amazing physical skills. But he gets scared when he plays if somebody overpowers him.
When he played against the Raptors, Rafael Araujo knocked his ass down, and throughout that whole game he wasnt driving to the lane, and taking off balance shots.
I think Vince is better than T-Mac. In a different post someone said that Vince didnt drive to the basket again in the nets vs raps game because the worst draft ever, hafael araujo, by the worst gm ever, rob babcock, hit vince in the face intentionally and that vince was scared. in other games, he drives to the basket after he gets hit, but the reason he didnt do it against araujo is because thats all hes capable of doing. he has no potential, vince knows he is a shit baller and wont attempt to go for the ball, araujo will foul any high flyer that goes to the basket without making an attempt to go for the ball, and then he will look away as if nothing happened, thats exactly what he did when vince stared him down after the foul. Now back 2 Vince Carter and T - Mac, vince is better than T-Mac. U can hate on Vince now, but im telling you that no superstar, and i mean no superstar, has lasted longer in Toronto than Vince Carter, he put Canada on the map. T-Mac left TO much earlier than Vince because he was in Vince's shadow. Vince had all the spotlight, and T mac had to say, I want to be noticed more than Vince Carter and go out and score 35 points every game, and b second in line to nobody rather than thinking of what is best for the toronto franchise. now u r going to complement him? As for just saying whos better, you can see for urself. What has T-mac ever done, finished last in the league in games won when he played in Orlando, and come back to Orlando to get bood by them too? Now lets see what vince has done, hes has averaged a solid 24ppg throughout his career, has won the rookie of the year, has won the dunk contest, has made it within a shot of reaching the eastern conference finals, has had more #1 plays of the week than any current nba superstar, he put canada on the map, and has been the #1 vote getter for the all star game for 4 years in a row... so u tell me whos better....
i'd have to say they're as good as each other. both are excellent clutch players, both can drive hard in the lane and convert on most attempts, both can nail it from the outside, bnoth can hit fadeaways over taller defenders, both play decent defence.
2005-06 Statistics;
CARTER MACGRADY
PPG 24.7 PPG 24.3
RPG 6.0 RPG 7.3
APG 4.0 APG 5.2
SPG 1.18 SPG 1.15
BPG .71 BPG .95
FG% .454 FG% .404
FT% .855 FT% .750
3P% .377 3P% .330
MPG 36.7 MPG 38.4
stats are very similar. tmac has a slight edge in defence and rebounding, vince has the edge in scoring and shooting accuracy.
so whos better? neither.
Carter by far.... he has a better post up game, has the best vertical in the league by far, can shoot the 3 just as good as t-mac, can drive to the basket, and get to the line at will, and on top of that.. has a better history to back it all up...neither have won a championship, but the way the nets have been playing i can tell u they will atleast get to the second round of the playoffs. T-mac's teams though, not so much.
you will never b remembered as a "great" player until u start winning, vince is doing a much better job at that than t-mac right now, t-mac is trying to do that, by getting his motivation from the boos he hears from every city he deserts, like toronto and orlando. if he keeps it up, he will soon b hated all over the world. carter is only hated by half of canada, just like t-mac. skill wise, ill say they are just as good because only 1/4 of the people who have given their opinion here agree with me,but vince is more mature as a player than tracy. the only 3s t-mac takes are highly contested ones. if vince is highly motivated to do well, like he was when richard jefferson called him out, making bad comments about him and the team, we have all seen what vince can do for his team. since RJ called him out, the nets havent lost. they have won 8 straight, t-mac is an amazing player, but does not have the potential that vince carter has.
lets just compare them to the greatest player ever, Michael Jordan. Vince Carter was supposed to be the next Michael Jordan and the media swirled around him about that just as much as they now do Lebron. Vince may very well have been the next MJ if he were not plagued with injuries. How often was T-Mac compared to Michael Jordan? Never.
there will never be another Michael Jordan Vince Carter has never had the potential MJ did, Kobe is better then Carter and he dosent even have the potential Jordan had, lets not drag him into this arguement, Mcgrady kills Carter, aside from being a better shooter, Mcgrady is an offensive monster, all Vince can do is dunk, Mcrgady is more creative then him, he is a slasher, hes quicker, taller, more agressive, and is definetly not afraid to dunk on anyone, the stats for 05-06 are even because, Mcgrady has been passing the ball alot, ALOT, he is not as independet as he was when he played at Orlando, comapre those stats to when Carter was by himself with the raptors, in a very similar situation. and there talk of him being traded, from the Nets, Why? becuase they dont need him, and he hasnt been pulling his weight, not my words, straight from the commentators at ESPN.
Mcgrady at Orlando
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
00-01 ORL 77 77 40.1 .457 .355 .733 2.5 5.0 7.5 4.6 1.51 1.53 2.57 2.10 26.8
01-02 ORL 76 76 38.3 .451 .364 .748 2.0 5.9 7.9 5.3 1.57 .96 2.49 1.80 25.6
02-03 ORL 75 74 39.4 .457 .386 .793 1.6 4.9 6.5 5.5 1.65 .79 2.60 2.10 32.1
03-04 ORL 67 67 39.9 .417 .339 .796 1.4 4.6 6.0 5.5 1.39 .63 2.67 1.90 28.0
Carter at Toronto
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
00-01 TOR 75 75 39.7 .460 .408 .765 2.3 3.2 5.5 3.9 1.52 1.09 2.23 2.70 27.6
01-02 TOR 60 60 39.8 .428 .387 .798 2.3 2.9 5.2 4.0 1.57 .72 2.57 3.20 24.7
02-03 TOR 43 42 34.2 .467 .344 .806 1.4 3.0 4.4 3.3 1.12 .95 1.72 2.80 20.6
03-04 TOR 73 73 38.2 .417 .383 .806 1.3 3.5 4.8 4.8 1.21 .89 3.05 2.90 22.5
04-05 TOR 20 20 30.4 .411 .322 .694 1.4 1.9 3.3 3.1 1.25 .75 1.10 2.80 15.9
wow, the guy in the last post is pretty slow, did he not hear vince as all of canada did, when he said he didnt give full effort in toronto that year, or the year before? what im about to say goes out to the idiot in the post above. if ur going 2 compare their stats on their old teams then compare the stats when they both played hard. compare all of vinces stats up to 2001, thats when he stopped playing hard and did not get injured every other week as a raptor. anyways, you shouldnt b looking at the past, and even if u are, look at the past 2 seasons. i wanna c u compare their stats when vince was playing in new jersey last year. compare their stats for this year too. tell me this, has mcgrady ever won any individual awards?HAHA... how low do u feel?? on top of everything, ur trying 2 say vince is not a slasher, a scorer, he cant shoot, he cant like t-mac? WOW.... the only thing that u miiight b able to argue that t-mac is better at than carter, is shooting, which in my opinion and i can strongly say in any ESPN commentator's opinion does not highly differ who is the better player. i want to see any ESPN commentator, now say that t-mac is better than carter without another commentator arguing to say carter is better. in 2004, i wouldnt dare to say something like this... but now, i am sure carter is the better player.
this also goes out to tengu man, another thing, aside from just saying, who can shoot better and whos a better slasher, can u tell me of any hardware t-mac has to prove hes done more than carter in the nba, and that hes a better player? has t-mac won the rookie of the year? nope. Has Carter? Yes. Has t-mac ever been the #votegetter for the all star game? Nope. Has Carter? Yes. Has T-Mac ever won a slam dunk contest? Nope. Has Carter? Yes. Has T-Mac ever made it to the second round of the playoffs? Nope. Has Carter? Yes. So there it is, and one last thing, if you are going 2 compare old stats, y not compare career stats?huh? career percentages, rebounds, assists, point averages, everything, lets c who has been the better player throughout their career. no need to argue whos better right now... carter has shown that hes back, after he dropped 51 points on miami, he has his team above 50%. t-mac's team has one of the lowest records in the league.
Originally posted by tanjotfirst calm the **** down, cuz right now you sound like the biggest ass, cuz you dont like my opinion, and another thing, you sound like a dummass yourself for even trying to comapre him to michael jordan, i will whoop your ass in an arguement there, not only that you put words in my mouth sayin shit like, i dont think hes a slasher or a shooter or any thing like that, i resepect Carter, and i wasnt bashing him in any way. Tracy Mcrgady is a better scorer then he is, he socred 13 of his 33 points in 35 seconds against the champion Spurs, Finished the 02-03 campaign as the NBA scoring champion and averaged more than 30 points per game. He became the youngest player to average 30-plus points per game. ohh and you say Vince had 50 points huh? well tracy scored 62 on Washington in 04, and you did say we could compare past seasons. since you want to compare highlights and career stats it wont get you anywhere, because there too similar. Vince carter scored 52 points twice in his whole career, Tracy Mcgrady scored 50 plus points in more than one game, and the 62 i mentioned earlier. Vince is back alright, but hes also back with Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, Jason Msinnis, Clifford Robinson, and many other above average players.
wow, the guy in the last post is pretty slow, did he not hear vince as all of canada did, when he said he didnt give full effort in toronto that year, or the year before? what im about to say goes out to the idiot in the post above. if ur going 2 compare their stats on their old teams then compare the stats when they both played hard. compare all of vinces stats up to 2001, thats when he stopped playing hard and did not get injured every other week as a raptor. anyways, you shouldnt b looking at the past, and even if u are, look at the past 2 seasons. i wanna c u compare their stats when vince was playing in new jersey last year. compare their stats for this year too. tell me this, has mcgrady ever won any individual awards?HAHA... how low do u feel?? on top of everything, ur trying 2 say vince is not a slasher, a scorer, he cant shoot, he cant like t-mac? WOW.... the only thing that u miiight b able to argue that t-mac is better at than carter, is shooting, which in my opinion and i can strongly say in any ESPN commentator's opinion does not highly differ who is the better player. i want to see any ESPN commentator, now say that t-mac is better than carter without another commentator arguing to say carter is better. in 2004, i wouldnt dare to say something like this... but now, i am sure carter is the better player.
Also not to mention Tracy is younger then he is, and he came out of high school, HIGH SCHOOL YOU ****IN DUMASS, he was signed to a good team his rookie year, that had Carter on it being the star of the team, how the hell was he gonna shine espically coming out of high school his rookie year? Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant are prime exmaples of rookies coming out of high school and not getting the rookie of the year, simply because they were fresh out of high school and were just too young. so you can shove that award right back up your arrogant ass. and talkin about the playoffs, he hasn't excatly been on quality teams and the weight is always on him he cant do it by himself, but im guessing your gonna try and say Vince can. Vince is on New jersey he has back up, also one of the best point guards in the league on his team.
did he not hear vince as all of canada did, when he said he didnt give full effort in toronto that year, or the year before?
yes, Tracy Mcgrady does play harder then he does, when you dont play hard yo dont give it your all thank you for supporting that part of my arguement.
but you know what this arguemnet isnt important to me as it obviously is to you, im sorry if i popped a blood vessel in you head with my post, but you taking this way too seriously. and it would have been cool if you had simply dissarged and stated why, in a decent manner, instead of being an ass about it. I gurantee you if we were arguing face to face, i would have beat you ****in face in before you even finished half of that first post, watch you ****in mouth and learn how to argue like a cilivized human being.