Anime Racist ?
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GothamProtector
Im tired of people saying that anime is racist because there no in their shows or they are drawn different. Anime is for japanese people, so they make it with japanese characters, and theyare not much colored people in japan so please. Shows like Full metal A Naruto kenshin and some others are pure japanese, so what if they creators are racist or not just enjoy the JAPANESE SHOW. WWho agreess
BlackHatDefect
They way I look at it, how many Americans or Black people do you see in Japan. Anime isn't made for us, its made for he Japanese, so all those minorities need to stop calling on everyone (I have noticed alot of minorities claim anime racist as well, but they generally call anything missing a few dark skinned people racist) I have no pitty on blacks and mexicans and whatnot who say that....my family was bitched about as well (We were gyspys..HELLO!!!!)
Anyway, enought ranting, I have managed to make a list of black/hispanics in anime/manga
1)That hot mexican in Zettai Kareshi(forgot his name)
2)Chocolove(Shaman King)
3)Anthy/Akito(Shoujo Kakumei Utena)
4)Chad(Bleach)
5)Random characters from Cowboy Bebop
WindDancer
Please don't use the "N" word. Is slang and rather offensive. Anime is a broad genre that covers sci-fi, fantasy, sports, soap opera, etc..etc... is basically about humanity. Certain anime series covers subjects like race, sexual preference, discrimination and is not trying to answer any of these topics instead it illustrates how human beings react to these issues. So rather than ask "how come there are no blacks in anime" why not watch the stories and maybe pick up a message about humanity the anime is illustrating rather than jump into conclusions.
btw-Robotech have colored characters.....white, black, brown, and purple. Don't paid attention to the colors....pay attention to the characters.
WindDancer
How about you DON'T post that kind of stuff again?! That had nothing to do with the topic and is consider member bashing! Don't do it again!
LordFear
it's fine for a member to call people ****** and just get a slap on the wrist huh Winddancer????
Well I think your whole rules here is garbage!!!!
People like that should be put in their place with the same dose of venom they dish out. Neither you or anybody is gonna deter them from doing it again by just posting up rules and regulations and slaps on the wrist.
WindDancer
That has been edited. What you did was Member bashing and that is NOT tolerated! He has a topic to discuss whereas you were bashing him and another member. This is unacceptable!
If you have a problem with the rules pm anytime! I don't want to see you bashing another member again. If you have a problem with a member make a report or pm a moderator, but DO NOT bash him/her!
Back on Topic..
Max Spidey 24
Do not question Wind Dancer, hes not a noob to this, and hes right about the anime thing.
LordFear
You call what he posted as a topic to discuss!!!
Then why don't I just post something like
Why are anime characters look like chinks???
That's a topic in your opinion???
Whatever
WindDancer
Originally posted by WindDancer
If you have a problem with the rules pm anytime! I don't want to see you bashing another member again. If you have a problem with a member make a report or pm a moderator, but DO NOT bash him/her!
Back on Topic..
GothamProtector
Not all anime is racist but most of the popular ones like Dbz And naruto witch are the most racist. Dbz draws black people like morons and treat white people like they are greedy and only care about ladies and there faces. Naruto has no other people than japanese because in an interview the guy said he dont like black people or white in his anime because they dont act like japs and there skin would look wierd in the anime of jap colored people. Th frown upon blacks,whites and hispanics, in general america. They have no respect.
Mandos
Who cares what's in it... it's good anyways.
TrAnCeDuO
Originally posted by LordFear
You call what he posted as a topic to discuss!!!
Then why don't I just post something like
Why are anime characters look like chinks???
That's a topic in your opinion???
Whatever
whoa man. no offense but you need to shut up immediately. Seriously if WD sees this post I'm pretty sure you'll get banned. Don't think these people wont ban because they will!(they've done it to me once over a stupid pm)And Don't argue with him. Just do as he says.
As for the racism i don't think it really exist. although some of you have made a few points dbz the truth of the matter is that the rest of the world is just a minority. Which to me is just fine since many of these animes are based in japan(which anime originated there) and the whole thing is like seeing it from their point of view.
But then again you might want to ask yourself"is diversity really necessary"? i mean they may take away a sense of realism that the creators trying to achieve since they felt they would be obligated to insert every minority just to become politically correct instead of just letting loose and let their creativity unravel.
But in any case as another person pointed out we should all just shut up and not get caught up in technicalities.
Reborn Again
I believe the look of the anime characters began in the late 1980's and have remained such til now. The reason that most of the anime characters are causatian in origin is because the Japanese society is just that. There are a few African American characters, but they mostly remain as background characters.
lilmisskitten
Originally posted by GothamProtector
Im tired of people saying that anime is racist because there no in their shows or they are drawn different. Anime is for japanese people, so they make it with japanese characters, and theyare not much colored people in japan so please. Shows like Full metal A Naruto kenshin and some others are pure japanese, so what if they creators are racist or not just enjoy the JAPANESE SHOW. WWho agreess i just wanna say to whoever said it chad from bleach is not black hes just very tanned
Max Spidey 24
Umm I gues since its Japan then its what japan thinks like in america on how we look at asians but I guess we dont let them look stupid like Japanese makes some of the american people stupid. They need to get out more.
dyuken
Anime isn't prejudice or racists. It at times can be QUITE IGNORANT!! First off I would like to explore the SAMBO like representations of blacks in anime. The huge PINK LIPS harken back to a time when representations of blacks as jungle bunnies and watermellon pickers were the norm in the United States. This is where the japanese learned these image.
However, information freely flows now between cultures and animes continued use of these stereotypical images can no longer be attributed to ignorance. Japanese have somehow endearingly incorporated this image of black people into their cultural psyche, despite having access to other images of blacks. So this is in effect a racially motivated stereotype that Japanese artists refuse to let go.
I would also like to talk about the Japanese Image of blacks as sometype of sexual monsters. In hentai the black male is always shown as a sexual frankenstein defined by an inhumanly monsterous phallic member. The member being the sum total of who the character is. To add to this this character usually never speaks but is in the story to show the sexual varility of whatever woman is the focus of the lurid tale. This image was also learned from Americans.
Finallly, it has been argued that anime is made for japanese, however i don't recall anyone in anime looking the slightest bit japanese. They mostly look caucasian. Is this the self image of the Japanese or some secret desire to be white thats manifest in their popular art?
Japan is not above racial stereotyping and oppression of anyone, just ask most of the other asian countries about Japan's world war 2 imperialism. It stands to reason that some of these attitudes would be reserved for black people. However, this particular form of prejudice is a learned behavior so while we are blaming the japanese please spread some of that blame to america as well.
sai12
Wow, someone thought out their answer! Well, done! *claps*
Kenshinswife
I dont think anime is the least bit racist in my opinion it is just heavily based upon heritage. I actually think it has improved quite a bit. It use to be extremely hard to find black people but now you find them quite frequently among the diffrent animes. In animes such as rave masters the black female in it (her name escape my mind at the moment) she looks quite decent. But what i have noticed when they do portray african americans they give them the purple hair and the purple eyes which is pretty damn fictional (but whats to expect anime has been known for its out of box way of portraying people). But in the other hand you notice that sometimes when black people are portrayed they have the big nasty looking lips and just really frigged up, but like i said before slowly it is changing for the better.
TrAnCeDuO
Originally posted by dyuken
Anime isn't prejudice or racists. It at times can be QUITE IGNORANT!! First off I would like to explore the SAMBO like representations of blacks in anime. The huge PINK LIPS harken back to a time when representations of blacks as jungle bunnies and watermellon pickers were the norm in the United States. This is where the japanese learned these image.
However, information freely flows now between cultures and animes continued use of these stereotypical images can no longer be attributed to ignorance. Japanese have somehow endearingly incorporated this image of black people into their cultural psyche, despite having access to other images of blacks. So this is in effect a racially motivated stereotype that Japanese artists refuse to let go.
I would also like to talk about the Japanese Image of blacks as sometype of sexual monsters. In hentai the black male is always shown as a sexual frankenstein defined by an inhumanly monsterous phallic member. The member being the sum total of who the character is. To add to this this character usually never speaks but is in the story to show the sexual varility of whatever woman is the focus of the lurid tale. This image was also learned from Americans.
Finallly, it has been argued that anime is made for japanese, however i don't recall anyone in anime looking the slightest bit japanese. They mostly look caucasian. Is this the self image of the Japanese or some secret desire to be white thats manifest in their popular art?
Japan is not above racial stereotyping and oppression of anyone, just ask most of the other asian countries about Japan's world war 2 imperialism. It stands to reason that some of these attitudes would be reserved for black people. However, this particular form of prejudice is a learned behavior so while we are blaming the japanese please spread some of that blame to america as well.
*Sigh*okay let me try to answer all of this...
I find your first and third paragraphs totally unfounded. ive yet to find a minority in a anime that was portrayed that negatively. Do you have any proof or can you cite any sources of these claims?
as for second and last what more can you really say? racial slurs and prejudice spread like mad in the world. Do you think there is a nation out there where no one hates each other?Thats how it is in the world. wether you like it or not someones always going to be hating someone else based on what they are instead of who they are. But hey! look! we're progressing! It is getting better!
you dont really have a point in the fourth paragraph. thats just how anime is. In Rorouni Kenshin, Kenshin has red hair and kaoru has blue hair. Common sense would dictate that back then nobody had whacked out hair like theirs! And personally i approve of the character designs. That way you cant really distinguish who is or isnt japanese. Imagine that! In a way they are helping us look at people as people instead of their implied ethnicity.
Lord Shadow Z
I don't think there is actual racial hatred being used in anime it is either ignorance on the part of the Japanese or a wish just to keep the characters fundamentally Japanese so the Japanese audience can identify with the characters better. The Japanese don't have to include characters of different race if they don't wan't to, or if the story does'nt call for it. Its the Western policy of OTT political correctness thats making us think they should.
TrAnCeDuO
thats exactly what im trying to say. these artists aernt obligated to anything. let them create what they want without being tied to obligatory things like political correction.
GothamProtector
I know, you tell them. They dont have to put black people in the anime so just deal with it. You guys are lucky Black people aree even in Dbz and cowboy bebop. Black people realy do act like that the way they put it in the anime just like we do ching chung crap in american shows because thats what we think. Yellow hair and stuff in Japan are respected, even white people because thet are the best race in the world. WHITE POWER is good and it shows.
sai12
Umm, I'm not a fan of the comment above. Though I do agree that they should not be tied down by our criteria. They are artists let them create!Though it would be nice if they did do that on their own free will. But they are working that way. It is a slow progress.....
ZomBiE_HunTER
Shows like South Park are very races but I still enjoy it because its not meant to be taken to seriously.
TrAnCeDuO
Originally posted by GothamProtector
I know, you tell them. They dont have to put black people in the anime so just deal with it. You guys are lucky Black people aree even in Dbz and cowboy bebop. Black people realy do act like that the way they put it in the anime just like we do ching chung crap in american shows because thats what we think. Yellow hair and stuff in Japan are respected, even white people because thet are the best race in the world. WHITE POWER is good and it shows.
am i the only one disgusted by the sheer arrogance of this post?
sai12
That is exactly why I said I wasn't a fan of the comment above. Truely horrible!
raenef v
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
*Sigh*okay let me try to answer all of this...
I find your first and third paragraphs totally unfounded. ive yet to find a minority in a anime that was portrayed that negatively. Do you have any proof or can you cite any sources of these claims?
as for second and last what more can you really say? racial slurs and prejudice spread like mad in the world. Do you think there is a nation out there where no one hates each other?Thats how it is in the world. wether you like it or not someones always going to be hating someone else based on what they are instead of who they are. But hey! look! we're progressing! It is getting better!
you dont really have a point in the fourth paragraph. thats just how anime is. In Rorouni Kenshin, Kenshin has red hair and kaoru has blue hair. Common sense would dictate that back then nobody had whacked out hair like theirs! And personally i approve of the character designs. That way you cant really distinguish who is or isnt japanese. Imagine that! In a way they are helping us look at people as people instead of their implied ethnicity.
why complain about it?
Being that we are all on this forum, i think that we must all like Anime/Manga to some degree. Obviously the way anime/manga is drawn depends upon the artist. With that in mind, you can't say that the anime or manga is stereotypical.
It is quite true also that there are very few people of other races than Asian in Japan.
As for the weird hair, shapes, etc. it is added in for artistic value. if every single type of character had a certain outline, then anime and manga would be boring. it also adds a certain extraordinary attibute to the story.
would you rather have anime/manga the way it is now or having a stereotypical white person (blue eyes, blond/brown hair, pale skin), a stereotypical asian person (slanted brown eyes, round face, black hair, shorter), a stereotypical african person (brown eyes, thick curly black hair, tall, dark skin, big lips), etc.?
TrAnCeDuO
no i wouldnt want any of that. as i said before they are making it so irrelevent that now it doesnt matter anymore(as it should).
sai12
Oh lets just let this die already. It can sink to the bottom pages. I think we all have gotten the idea. No need to argue any longer. Tee hee!
Anime is my happy place! Please! I beg you!
TrAnCeDuO
sure why not...after all i think we've milked this thread for all its worth and i would rather not read more disgusting messages from people like GothamProtector.
Bettyboop
I can't really say anime is racist yet you really can't say it isn't. The way they do portray black people in some of these anime shows is somewhat ridiculous. I know they have been exposed to better looking black people. Who do not have crazy color lips that are differnt shades from their bodies and all these other horribly crazy looking features they put on Blacks. They also give Blacks such a bad image. I mean in american yes we have portrayed them as kung fu fighters and all those other sterotypes but we have evolved. There image is changing over here. Shouldn't they change the image of black people to fit a more realistic outlook instead of such a negative one? And you wonder why are there few blacks in animes and such large amounts of whites.. They don't actually look japanese..if anyone has notice at least most of them don't..
raenef v
okay let this statement end this debate:
We cannot change the way T.V. is made and yet we all watch it. Being that we all enjoy the humor and action of anime and manga, let this discussion stop. People we shouldn't dis something if we all read and watch it. Enjoy it instead!
Now let this thread die!
Max Spidey 24
People in the world like other stuff that is just plain wrong but still. I know lots of people that loves drugss so i guess they shouldnt discuss it.
ZomBiE_HunTER
I was watching Fma today and I saw a balck person without a disfucntional look to her.
raenef v
i was overexagerating, it doesn't have to die
i'm just a really big fan of anime/manga so i just ignore the stereotypes if any
catweeter
I love anime really, and it is true that anime leaves out the minorities. However, saying that because its by the japanese, for the japanese is some high class bullshit on a spoon. The day I see a natural blondehaired blue eyed japanese person...
TrAnCeDuO
...did anyone bother reading any of my replies?!
raenef v
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
...did anyone bother reading any of my replies?!
what replies?
TrAnCeDuO
...
the posts i made earlier in the thread!
and i was talking to betty boop and catweeter.
thats why im annoyed that some of you aernt paying attention.
theflashlight
this whole thing is f***ing stupid. lighted up. god. Anime may or may not be racist. But i dont f***ing care. TrAnCeDuO. the reason Anime doesnt look like japinese charictors is because the style. does Billy and Mandy look like there american. NO. it is the style of Manga/ anime that makes it look japenese. they dont have to look like that. oh yeah. one more thing. F***ING LIGHTEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theflashlight
rayen. THANK YOU. U dont care about racism in anime. OH yeah. evryone else. if u think its racist, DONT F***ING WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
TrAnCeDuO
*sigh* its okay man...fog of war....happens to us all sometimes.
Fokker001
The SS was pretty racist, but they have cool uniforms. Watch and enjoy!
lilkagome9
i dont care wat ppl think about wat i write, its just i dont think anime is just for Japanese people. i am not Japanese, none wat so ever, so yea...
but, if uve noticed anime have different hair styles and eye color is different: pink, red, yellow *drool*, blue, green, they have all sorts of colors for everything. EVERYTHING!! and besides, some anime have african americans, k? 'ight bye! ^-^
lilmisskitten
Originally posted by TrAnCeDuO
am i the only one disgusted by the sheer arrogance of this post?
no yuo wernt while reading tis spost i felt xtremly pissed off as it was a completly unnessacery comment and what was said was bulls**t
i dont really think its racist hardly anyblack people in japan hardly any in the animation but i do not agree withte big lips thing nd the completly black skin tone like mr popo what that aall about ! as i have never seen a black person who looked like that so where did this sterotype come from !
last_samurai_44
racism is just wrong period, even its in a cartoon/anime. In the field of battle, it doesn't matter what color what u are, as long as u got my back and do your job, hell thats all i care about.
roninious
YO CHECK MISTER PO PO FROM DRAGON BALL Z AS A REFERENCE.STEROTYPE LIKE BACK IN THE DAYS LIKE EARLY 1900s WHITES USE TO SHOW CASE WITH BLACK SHOE POLISH ON THERE FACE AND AND PAINTED RED BIG LIPS.MISTER PO PO IS DESCRIBED IN THAT ASPECT.ANY OTHER ONES OF US IN ANIME HAS US SHOWN WITH OVER SIZE LIPS. I GUESS YALL DON'T SEE BECAUSE U JUST LIKE WAT U SEE.ASK SOME THAT LIVE IN JAPAN OR DID YALL JUST DECIDE TO OPEN UR MOUTHS INSTEAD .FROM THE ANGLE U GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM MAKES NO SENSE REALLY. LIKE HOW WOULD KNOW ON THIS SUJECT IF UR LOOKING FROM THE OUTSIDE.DID U EVEN INVITE ANY BLACKS TO TO UR LITTLE G RATED KLAN MEETING.ALL SEE FROM YALL ARE PROOF OF PURCHASE THAT UR IGNORANT.JUST CAUSE U ((((WATCH)))) ANIME DOESN'T MEAN U GOT THE ALL SEEING EYE SUBJECT.I'M NOT SAYING ANIME IS RACIST ,JUST SUBLIMNALLY STEREOTYPICAL.IT IS TYPICAL THAT U MAY U SAY I'M TIRED OF HEARING SUCH THING ECHO IN UR VIRGIN EARS.THERE ARE THING BLACKS ARE TIRED HEARING LIKE RACIST WORDS THAT ARE STILL SNICKERED.SO TO U KIDS ((((((PUT UP OR SHUT UP)))))) THIS WAS TONED DOWN FOR THOSE WITH NO BRAIN NO PRIDE AND THOSE WHO HATE CHANGE
sai12
Originally posted by roninious
YO CHECK MISTER PO PO FROM DRAGON BALL Z AS A REFERENCE.STEROTYPE LIKE BACK IN THE DAYS LIKE EARLY 1900s WHITES USE TO SHOW CASE WITH BLACK SHOE POLISH ON THERE FACE AND AND PAINTED RED BIG LIPS.MISTER PO PO IS DESCRIBED IN THAT ASPECT.ANY OTHER ONES OF US IN ANIME HAS US SHOWN WITH OVER SIZE LIPS. I GUESS YALL DON'T SEE BECAUSE U JUST LIKE WAT U SEE.ASK SOME THAT LIVE IN JAPAN OR DID YALL JUST DECIDE TO OPEN UR MOUTHS INSTEAD .FROM THE ANGLE U GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM MAKES NO SENSE REALLY. LIKE HOW WOULD KNOW ON THIS SUJECT IF UR LOOKING FROM THE OUTSIDE.DID U EVEN INVITE ANY BLACKS TO TO UR LITTLE G RATED KLAN MEETING.ALL SEE FROM YALL ARE PROOF OF PURCHASE THAT UR IGNORANT.JUST CAUSE U ((((WATCH)))) ANIME DOESN'T MEAN U GOT THE ALL SEEING EYE SUBJECT.I'M NOT SAYING ANIME IS RACIST ,JUST SUBLIMNALLY STEREOTYPICAL.IT IS TYPICAL THAT U MAY U SAY I'M TIRED OF HEARING SUCH THING ECHO IN UR VIRGIN EARS.THERE ARE THING BLACKS ARE TIRED HEARING LIKE RACIST WORDS THAT ARE STILL SNICKERED.SO TO U KIDS ((((((PUT UP OR SHUT UP)))))) THIS WAS TONED DOWN FOR THOSE WITH NO BRAIN NO PRIDE AND THOSE WHO HATE CHANGE
Whoa, stop screaming dude! My ears are bleeding!! Tone down the caps lock!!
Its even hard to read cuz of that....
Say it again in proper english without yelling...then I'll take time to listen
roninious
ur just a unclaim,if u can't reply with intellect or don't reply son if its hard too read wat does it tell u about ur i.q. u might test for a.d.d. so stay in ur place or grow up.ur choice
GothamProtector
Anime is kool.
Mainstream
yeah Piccolo kicks ass
TrAnCeDuO
Originally posted by roninious
YO CHECK MISTER PO PO FROM DRAGON BALL Z AS A REFERENCE.STEROTYPE LIKE BACK IN THE DAYS LIKE EARLY 1900s WHITES USE TO SHOW CASE WITH BLACK SHOE POLISH ON THERE FACE AND AND PAINTED RED BIG LIPS.MISTER PO PO IS DESCRIBED IN THAT ASPECT.ANY OTHER ONES OF US IN ANIME HAS US SHOWN WITH OVER SIZE LIPS. I GUESS YALL DON'T SEE BECAUSE U JUST LIKE WAT U SEE.ASK SOME THAT LIVE IN JAPAN OR DID YALL JUST DECIDE TO OPEN UR MOUTHS INSTEAD .FROM THE ANGLE U GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM MAKES NO SENSE REALLY. LIKE HOW WOULD KNOW ON THIS SUJECT IF UR LOOKING FROM THE OUTSIDE.DID U EVEN INVITE ANY BLACKS TO TO UR LITTLE G RATED KLAN MEETING.ALL SEE FROM YALL ARE PROOF OF PURCHASE THAT UR IGNORANT.JUST CAUSE U ((((WATCH)))) ANIME DOESN'T MEAN U GOT THE ALL SEEING EYE SUBJECT.I'M NOT SAYING ANIME IS RACIST ,JUST SUBLIMNALLY STEREOTYPICAL.IT IS TYPICAL THAT U MAY U SAY I'M TIRED OF HEARING SUCH THING ECHO IN UR VIRGIN EARS.THERE ARE THING BLACKS ARE TIRED HEARING LIKE RACIST WORDS THAT ARE STILL SNICKERED.SO TO U KIDS ((((((PUT UP OR SHUT UP)))))) THIS WAS TONED DOWN FOR THOSE WITH NO BRAIN NO PRIDE AND THOSE WHO HATE CHANGE
i would dignify your mindless ranting with a response if it werent for all that yelling in all caps.
TrAnCeDuO
also am i the only slightly offended by the banner that says"animasian invasion"?
Flame Alchemist
Roninious,G rated klan meeting lol thats bull and you know it,I happen to be mixed(black and white)and I find it very unlikely they let someone black in the klan.And what that comment." JUST CAUSE YOU ((((WATCH)))) ANIME DOESN'T MEAN YOU GOT THE ALL SEEING EYE SUBJECT."Unless you're Japanese then I suggest you you shut up about that."This was a thread about anime/manga racism and you act like were about to hang you at a kkk meeting.
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