Darth Maul in Episode III? - Possible Evidence Inside!
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DarkYoda
This is from a comic book scan I found on MF.com. If you notice, in the comic a rebuilt Darth Maul comes across Anakin's body in a search for Obi-Wan...behind him is an imperial shuttle. This raises alot of questions I think, since we also see Grievous - part living - part machine in Episode III and of course Darth Vader at the end of the movie. Is there some connection? Were Maul and Grievous Palpatine's first attempts? On a side note...this same picture reveals the death of Watto.
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Mist
wow, that is so lame!
LandoSpeeder2
No he's dead in the movies.
ArthasKnight
Makes no sense really. I assume Maul is after Obi-Wan? Well, asking Watto isn't the way to go then because they never met. And no, Maul is not in Ep3.
Velcro_Boy
*rubs chin*
intresting.
DarkYoda
This is just one page of the comic...read the rest and it makes more sense...
Go here...
http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3408
Mist
how do you survie getting chopped in half and falling down a reactor core?
ArthasKnight
Yeah, I mean it looks cool and all but it still doesn't make sense that he questions Watto. *shrug* Cool find though.
ArthasKnight
Originally posted by Mist
how do you survie getting chopped in half and falling down a reactor core?
Creative license.
DarkYoda
Yeah...I agree...I think it is better that Maul should be dead. But if they want to bring him back in the comic for one last battle with Obi-Wan...so be it.
Mist
is this official? or some fanboy made it?
DCLXVI
Sorry dude.

Maul will not be in Episode III, and I wouldn't consider that "EU-canon", probably more akin to the TALES Comics.
Though it does look sweet.

Nice find....
DarkYoda
As far as why Maul questions Watto it makes sense when you think about it...
Maul goes to Polis Massa and find a medical log which shows that Padme and Anakin had children and probably mentions Obi-Wan. So Maul finds out more about Anakin and discovers that he was once a slave to Watto on Tatooine.
Edit: He probably knew Anakin was Obi-Wan's former apprentice and knew enough to know where to look if he wanted to find Luke and also Obi-Wan.
Mist
i like the grievous one though....
DCLXVI
Again, it has been repeatedly confirmed by GL and LFL that Maul is not in Episode III, though the Comic is very cool....
As far as "normal EU" goes, Maul died in TPM.

ArthasKnight
Yeah but it would do no good to question Watto about it because he's never heard of Obi-Wan before.
Velcro_Boy
Originally posted by Mist
how do you survie getting chopped in half and falling down a reactor core?
how does anakin survive getting his limbs chopped off and falling in lava?
JKozzy
Lucas had said he intentionally showed Maul being sliced in half, in order to show that he was indeed dead, and would never come back. Cool concept, but better left alone, imo. Could be another cloaked man.
Ben-Kenobi
That shits so gay, maul being alive is totally freaking stupid.
Darth Subjekt
Originally posted by DCLXVI
Sorry dude.

Maul will not be in Episode III, and I wouldn't consider that "EU-canon", probably more akin to the TALES Comics.
Though it does look sweet.

Nice find....
HA...you italicized the wrong word......lol

bilb
NO NO NO.. even the page you posted contradicts the thought that Maul might be included.... He kills the Polis Massans? THey come in at the END of the movie! Watto? The only way Watto could possibly know about Obi is after Obi arrives on Tatoine and thats the last friggin shot of the movie!!

DarkYoda
bilb - notice the shot of Anakin's body...that was the only thing I meant when I said Maul might be in Episode III. If he was in the movie I would expect it to be a very quick flash to him on Mustafar with Palpatine arriving...just a nod to EU fans or something.

Really this may be the first picture that shows what Anakin looks like after his accident on Mustafar!
Ben-Kenobi
Darth Maul, Can Bite The BIG ONE!, he sucks if he was good he wouldnt of lost to obi in TPM
bilb
Originally posted by DarkYoda
bilb - notice the shot of Anakin's body...that was the only thing I meant when I said Maul might be in Episode III. If he was in the movie I would expect it to be a very quick flash to him on Mustafar with Palpatine arriving...just a nod to EU fans or something.

Really this may be the first picture that shows what Anakin looks like after his accident on Mustafar!
I still dont buy it....

Darth Subjekt
ok man, YOU started the thread and didnt notice that the page you got this from said this happens 3 years AFTER Ep3? Well if you read it, it would have answered your question and you wouldnt have had to make this thread....

Mist
now, has it occured that maul might NOT be looking for Obiwan? he goes straight for owen's homestead, for luke. he woulda gone to watto to find out about where owen is.
DarkYoda
This page is called a flashback - in other words this is Maul relating to Obi-Wan what he had to go through in his seach to find Maul...and no Anakin did not stay on Mustafar rotting for 3 years before Palpatine discovered him.

I'm gonna post the whole comic in my next post so everyone can read it from start to finish...OK?
Ben-Kenobi
Mist of you read it maul says that he knew f he went for the boy obi-wan would show up.
Darth Subjekt
Update
Here's the Ben Kenobi vs Darth Maul at the Lars Farm. This story takes place 3 years after RotS...
that was copied and pasted from right above where this comic is.......give it up....aint gonna happen....
DarkYoda
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Mist
Originally posted by Ben-Kenobi
Mist of you read it maul says that he knew f he went for the boy obi-wan would show up.
i hadnt read the whole then, now i have and it makes sense.
bilb
Sorry, i know your intentions were good, but thats just silly
DarkYoda
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DCLXVI
Darth Subjekt> Whachu' talkin' 'bout Willis?
Mist
the part where obiwan is holding his saber to mauls face, and theres that pink part in the middle, i can make out quigon on the left, obiwan on the right, but whos in the middle?
Mist
whats the thing right next to her then?
DarkYoda
Mist...that's a good question...I have no idea.

Captain REX
If you all don't already know...
This is a comic from the upcoming Visionaries book. I am greatly anticipating it's release...especially after reading THAT.

tpaquin
The comic was an enjoyable premise, but it's definitely not cannon. For instance, a very small Watto is in the tatooine scene on the ROTJ DVD.
DCLXVI
Don't know, Mist....
tpaquin> Really?

I didn't know that....

Captain REX
Originally posted by tpaquin
The comic was an enjoyable premise, but it's definitely not cannon. For instance, a very small Watto is in the tatooine scene on the ROTJ DVD.
CANON
It's from Visionaries...like I say...just interesting stories. Go read the article.
DarkYoda
tpaquin - where was the small watto? I don't remember that... if he is there that is extremely lame. They let Yoda die in ROTJ why does Jar Jar and Watto and every other lame character not die?
DCLXVI
REX> Like the Grievous story too, then, eh?
Captain REX
http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/news20050315.html
There's a Grievous story in there...but...dunno what you mean by that.
And I was correcting Tpaquin with my shout of CANON...he wrote cannon, which is a large gun...
SnakeEyes
This is from The Star Wars Episode Three Concept stuff called Visionaries I think....
Captain REX
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http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/news20050315.html
bilb
Not a big EU fan..

lucasfilm
you know... as dumb as this may sound, its actually pretty sweet.. i was sold on the decapitated body of WATTO!!
im in!!
MadHeretic
It's not even official EU. Its' from "Visionaries" and "infinities" section - which deals with "what if something new/something ele happened" storylines

Most EU fans treat these are trash, naturally. Only the most dedicated who could buy anything that has to do with Star Wars, are fans of the infinities comics.
bilb
So Alternate Universe then, even worse....
Mist
Originally posted by MadHeretic
It's not even official EU. Its' from "Visionaries" and "infinities" section - which deals with "what if something new/something ele happened" storylines

Most EU fans treat these are trash, naturally. Only the most dedicated who could buy anything that has to do with Star Wars, are fans of the infinities comics.

guess that counts me in then....

DarkYoda
So does that mean the general grievous origin comic isn't how the general came to be?
Echuu
mist; i think that it's yoda in between qui-gon and padme
one thing i really hate about some people who are obsessed with eu is that some treat it like george lucas made it himself and they conflict eu with the movies
Mist
the only problem i have with eu, is kashyyyk. kotor made it so wonderful, then to see it in ep3, made me feel like kicking GL, even though ep3 kashyyyk is 'real' and kotor is 'fake'.
why put kashyyyk in kotor if its not even how it looks? couldnt they have waited?
DarkYoda
I thought I'd go ahead and post the General Grievous origin comic as well. This was posted at the mf.com forums. I actually like this one. It proves that he was an experiment that proves useful to Sidious when he creates Darth Vader. That is...IF this comic is really how Grievous comes to be.
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DarkYoda
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thejeditraitor
this is why the e.u. is so lame.
JKozzy
I see nothing lame about that. Those were cool comics. Thanks, DarkYoda

Torik_Shai
Originally posted by MadHeretic
It's not even official EU. Its' from "Visionaries" and "infinities" section - which deals with "what if something new/something ele happened" storylines

Most EU fans treat these are trash, naturally. Only the most dedicated who could buy anything that has to do with Star Wars, are fans of the infinities comics.
On the contrary, I'm a big EU fan, and I love Tales and Infinities simply because they can do things with the stories that wouldn't be possible to do otherwise. For example, there is a story in Tales about Vader fighting a reincarnated Maul to see who is really deserving of being the Emperor's apprentice. Of course that could never actually happen, but it's an interesting premise that easily answers questions that would be debated here otherwise.
Alatopel
I second that opinion. I like the idea of "What if Luke had died, and Leia became the Jedi..?" or they failed to destroy the Death Star. Wonderful things that they can't do in the movies.
Mist
i want that maul vs vader comic so bad but i cant find it

ArthasKnight
I'd love a link, anyone got one?
SnakeEyes
Originally posted by Mist
i want that maul vs vader comic so bad but i cant find it
I have it in my room!

Mist

you bastard! give it to me!!
*waves hand*
you WILL give me the comic....
Ben-Kenobi
I just realized something, Darth Maul probly sounds like a little girl cause he has no weenier or golf balls

Milosz006
http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3408
The last comic there dealing with Kashyyyk made me wonder something crucial to Star Wars. Why does anyone give a rat's ass about Kashyyyk? Is it going to turn the tide of the Clone Wars? What use is it to Palpatine?
bilb
Just one more world to conquer & bring under his control i guess
mephistodesigns
The whole premise of the visionairies book is that they wanted to showcase the work of some of the most skilled concept artists that worked on ROTS. Some of the stories interact with or lead up to events in the movies because these guys came up with these back stories for Lucas when they submitted character designs. Maul as a half cyborg was a concept they were kicking around but ditched. Lucas had asked the art dept. for a cyborg like character to help introduce the same technology that would be used to save Anakin and make Vader. They ended up tossing the cyborg Maul for General Grievous. GG's origin story in the Visionaires book is what the art dept. and Lucas used as his back story when fleshing out the character. This origin was also referenced in the novel Labrynth of Evil. But aside from that story, the rest are essentially what if?'s to show the artists work, not add to star wars as a whole. Enjoy the art, because these are usually the under appreciated and less famous artists. This book is to let them get a bit more in the public eye.
Cascador
let him survive in the comics, it might even be cool! I already saw a comic where Maul fights Vader! Was one of the coolest comics I saw...as long as it isn't in the movies.
mephistodesigns
that was a what if comic in Star Wars Tales which, until recently, wasn't even EU canon. Its just what if's. LIke the Maul story in Visionaires.
Mr Parker
That would be a nightmare.That stupid looking villian Darth Maul along with Jar jar was the stupidest thing about the phantom menace.
bilb
Blasphemy! Maul was Uber Cool!!

Mr Parker
sorry but he made me Laugh my a$$ off on how stupid looking he looks.

cant take a star wars movie serious when the villain is laughable looking.

bilb
Really? You are the first person I have heard who didnt like Maul.

mephistodesigns
yeah seriously, Maul was awesome. Double bladed saber, war paint, horns, attitude, and those freakin' contacts the actor wore!
bilb
I was just amazed at the Obi/QJ/Maul duel. There were always duels in the OT, but that one was AMAZING!!! Only problem was it was too short. Ray Park was awesome as Maul I thought....
Arsenal
Yeah you could see that Ray had real skills unlike the other actors.
mephistodesigns
i dunno about that, he had a voice actor. he was only there for his moves, which he did phenomenally. But i wouldn't put him higher than Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Ian McDermid or Hayden or just about anyone else.
bilb
I think he means martial arts skills, not acting..
Arsenal
Originally posted by bilb
I think he means martial arts skills, not acting..
You hit a nail on my head.
bilb
Whoops! Sorry bout that!
Spectr4L
Thanx for posting the comics DarkYoda.
I thought they were a good read.

mephistodesigns
Originally posted by Arsenal
You hit a nail on my head.
never mind then!

bilb
oki dok!

Stunrun
Wow this is very interesting stuff. I've heard alot of bullshit about Maul coming back and it used to really piss me off. I didnt want SW to turn into Friday The 13th where Jason keeps coming back; this is not the way for SW, but i have to admit, its very well put together story that makes alot of sense
((The_Anomaly))
i agree, it was pretty cool
lucasfilm
Originally posted by Stunrun
Wow this is very interesting stuff. I've heard alot of bullshit about Maul coming back and it used to really piss me off. I didnt want SW to turn into Friday The 13th where Jason keeps coming back; this is not the way for SW, but i have to admit, its very well put together story that makes alot of sense
indeeeeed! and i like the way they made ben fall on the speeder to make the back fall off like it looks in ANH.. oooh. lovin it!!!
and watto's dead!!!!!!!
Ushgarak
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