AOTC Obi-wan vs. TPM Qui-GOn Jinn

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AngryApocalypse
Who prevails?

Darth_Nefarus
Obi-Wan, soooo much luck

jedimaster2000
Obi-Wan is more talented than Qui-GOn IMO, I think he takes this.

Darth_Nefarus
Yeah, like I've always argued, Obi-Wan at his most powerful (ROTS) is equal to Windu.
If only Obi-Wans studied Vaapad

jedimaster2000
Yeah, I believe Obi-Wan is on par with Mace by ROTS.

Darth_Janus
Since oBi Wan is the classic ideal Jedi, however, it's only fitting he learns Form III, which is defensive. And theoretically, he would be unbeatable if he had mastered it.

Nice to see you finally got a pic, Jedi Master...

jackstain
dooku beats obi with ease in aotc, and qui gona was dookus student for years.......and qui gon had more experience

qui gon wins

Darth_Nefarus
wait, who let him out of his cage?

master sifadius
qui gon

Darth_Janus
I blame security. Security! Escort Mister Stain back to his holding cell.

Meanwhile, Qui Gon, while being quite the man, was not the resourceful Jedi Obi Wan was, sorry.

Darth_Nefarus
Nor as powerful, I mean Qui-Gonn could never take down Grievous and Dark Anakin in a one or two day period. Qui-Gonn was much wiser, but Obi-Wan was a super ninja of a Jedi.

Darth_Glentract
Qui-gon would win because he has a major advantage in terms of experience because by AOTC Obi-won had been a Jedi Knight for about ten years while Qui-gon had been a Jedi Knight for at least 20 in TPM.

Tormentor_2004
Obi wan used to be Qui-Gon's Padawan. Qui-Gon would know Obi-Wan's weaknesses, styles, and thoughts.

Darth_Nefarus
True, he would know of Obi-Wan's faults and how to exploit them, but you can never stop Obi-Wan's "luck"

Darth Destroyer
Obi-wan defeats the chosen one that takes some skill i would think.

Darth_Nefarus
And don't forget general grievous, that guys a notorious Jedi killing machine, but Obi-Wan hands him his ass

Onslaught2005
you convinced me

Darth_Glentract
Although Grevious was a Jedi killer that dosen't mean he could kill Qui-gon. Theoretically he might have killed the five weakest Jedi. Qui-gon was considered to be very good with a lightsaber (probably because he was Dooku's apprentice). I still think Qui-gon is better.

ArthasKnight
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
I blame security. Security! Escort Mister Stain back to his holding cell.

Meanwhile, Qui Gon, while being quite the man, was not the resourceful Jedi Obi Wan was, sorry.

Alright DJ, let's try not to start another row, mmkay?

I think Obi-Wan wins it. Yes Obi-Wan beat Maul in TPM because Maul was overconfident, but we're talking about AOTC Obi-Wan, not TPM Obi-Wan. Obi improves so much in the ten years between the films that he'd defeat his old Master easily. He (Obi) becomes much more powerful as a Knight than he was as a Padawan and I thought that even while he was a Knight that he was stronger than/as strong as Qui-Gon.

darthsith19
Okay, Obi-Wan has a draw with Jango and gets his ass kicked badly by Dooku and Dooku's not even trying very hard. I mean, okay, Obi was really worn out, but still, even if he had been at full strength I bet Dooku could have taken out Obi just as quickly if he tried as hard as he could. it might take a little longer, but not much.

The TPM novel says Qui-Gon's skills rival Mace Windu's. of course, this is TPM Mace, but still, Qui-Gon put up a fair fight against Darth Maul, dominated all the battle droids he fought, and when he fought Maul he was already a but tired from fighting droids.

Qui-Gon clearly is superior. He is much stronger in the Force and has better saber skills too. He does tell Obi-Wan that he (obi) will become stronger than him (Jinn) one day, but that day's not until close to ROTS.

Fishy
AOTC Obi wouldn't stand a chance...

God I understand this thread and most reply's in it are old but seriously.

Council level Master against a knight... QGJ may not be the best there is, but neither is Obi Wan by AOTC he isn't that special yet, he's good but not that good, he hasn't mastered any style's. He is still learning a lot himself. QGJ would take him down, not easily but he would.

atlant80
this is atoc obi not god rots obi in a good fight qui-gon wins. tpm mace still knows vappad and is still very strong so is qui-gon. and most people say maul can beat atoc obi if he (maul) is not overconfident

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