the void
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sauron
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its like that, but bigger, with a nasty man in it
sauron
wheres that?!?!
omg really??
Exa
Yeah... I just dont remember where that was but Im sure I read that somewhere (maybe I also dreamt that I read it, that occurs from time to time and afterwards Im sure I read it... especially things connected to the lost tales)
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yey
Re-read the lost tales and found the scene...
Telimektar (Tulkas' son) and Ingil are hunting Melkor... and he climbs upon the great pine-tree near Tavrobel in Eressea... its branches even reach the stars... and so he hides up there... tries to pick the stars out of the field of heaven to throw them down... but then the gods order to destroy the tree, and Melkor has to stay in the void because the tree is gone... but "one day he will find a way back"... yey
sauron
lol whoah
nice
so he is up with the stars....,so its not exactly a void is it
Exa
He's above the stars... well the stars are in the Void arent they... just look at our stars
also in the void, arent they?
sauron
yeah but if middle earth is indeed this earth
wouldnt he just be able to come into our atmosphere
like a comet...his physical body would be destroyed, but the size of him. he could easily destroy quite ALOT of space on impact.....like how that meteor made that crater in erm.....mexico
another evil plan
Exa
LOL
well
doesnt the text say "but one day he will find a way to return"
.... well he usually prefers throwing stars down and make them be meteors ^^
sauron
yeah why not throw them down...i mean he is up there now....nobody can reach him......
he could throw a star at manwe.....spike his eyes out
Kitoky
okay so what's the point of this thread?
Exa
Philosophing about the enigmas of the Void
sauron
<^> <<they are pointy....so they are the pointS (notice S PLURAL!) of this thread hehe
sauron
ok exas answer is better
aniron
for god sake if anyone else had done this thread it would have been closed straight away, way does sauron keep getting away with makeing these pointless threads?
sauron
i ask myself that very same question
i think it may be because im lovable
anyway this is not pointless......we are philosophing all the possibilities of the current home of melkor
Exa
This thread isnt pointless
I think its a thread about a very serious and interesting topic
it's just... obviously nobody is interested in talking about phenomena like the Void itself ... imo this is something definitely worth making a thread about it
because nobody ever cares a bout it
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@sauron yep
aniron
what void? is everyone on drugs?
sauron
the VOID
the place outside the world...space....where melkor was banighed too after his defeat
hence the big nasty man
sauron
whoah.....^^now thats just,,,,,,poetry for ya
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sauron
belegast Vs radagast
Exa
yeah ... AND... BELEGO vs BELEG
... ok Beleg is a common word
Belegaer, Belecthor, Beleghir, Belegor (name of morgoth yey), belegorn, Belegost, belegund, Belegur, Belemir... nice
sauron
belegond vs just plain ol' grond
mors823
I've wondering what elves did for free time, but at least they have a place to living. Melkor has NOTHING. Nada, Zip, Zelch, Zero. How boring can that be. He's there floating in black space. No top, no bottom, no sides. I'm just wondering how someone could escape?
shadowy_blue
I want to go to the Void just to accompany Morgoth and later Sauron..
shaber
Didn't Melkor bring Ungoliant back from the void?
Exa
??
Ungoliant fled to the far dark south of the world, not to the void... there are at least two versions of her death... in one she devours herself in hunger, in the other one she is slain by Earendil...
shadowy_blue
Yeah, and they first met (or at least I thought that was their first meeting) in Avathar in the south of Aman, he didn't bring her back from the Void.
sauron
*pounces*
there are THREE versions of her fate
one, she ate herself
two, earendil kills her
three, she survives.....and hides in the deepest darkness of the earth until the end
Exa
*hides*
"AT LEAST two versions"
... as far as I know there are also several more, never really developed ones
sauron
*finds*
oh i apologise about that, 'at least to versions of her.....death' *pounces again* DEATH
she doesnt die in some of them
Exa
well this version would make her die in the Dagor Dagrath
(which would be a great ending... far better than devouring herself or something)
sauron
yeah...well not IN it
at the time it ended.....i dont think she would be IN it
shadowy_blue
Up to now, I still don't get it though. She ate herself? LOL..the first time I've read that..I was like.."huh?" Can someon please explain?
shadowy_blue
Yeah, but...how could she eat herself?
Exa
Good question
no idea
... as Tolkien writes, "only" a myth (history became legend... legend became myth........)
sauron
maybe she started nimbling at her legs
then one day just ate a whole one....then she just kept doing that...until she couldnt move then she either bled to death...or just started eating herself...
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