DBZ vs JLA

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paeng
Gokou
Gohan
Vegeta
Trunks
Piccolo
Uub
Pan

VS

Superman
Green Lantern
Hawkgirl
Wonder Woman
Martian Manthunter
Flash
Batman

Scoobless
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no............... DBZ threads aren't allowed in this forum....... especially when they are so heavilly stacked......... i bet any 2 of those gus (maybe 1) could take the JLA

kgkg
Goku - say Kamehameha

all Jla are sent to the afterlife.

then fate collects the dragonball and JLa wished back.

ohh god i love happy endings

paeng
Okay I agree with you I won't post anymore DBZ thread because they are too powerful.

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by kgkg
Goku - say Kamehameha

all Jla are sent to the afterlife.

then fate collects the dragonball and JLa wished back.

ohh god i love happy endings Manhunter shuts their minds off. WIN!

kgkg
it doesn't work on DBZ chars.

HAHAHA

paeng
This is for Swanky-Tuna ALL of the DBZ CHARS are POWERFUL IN MIND AND BODY. Pan could Wipe them all in an instant.

Avalonofthewind
I would never count out the JLA.
Combined..they have so many abilities and powers that it would basically take DBZ everything they have to fight the JLA.

DBZ powers are too similar...and the JLA works well as a team.

Green Lantern traps them all in a bubble that can't be teleported out of and blocks them from channeling chi while MM shuts down their brains or makes them think he won. Superman melts them all with heat vision equivalent to the sun, while wonder woman traps them all with her unbreakable magic lasso. Flash vibrates through them killing them (once he taps into the speed force..there isnt any character that can keep up with him...dbz or comic)

I mean..come on... the JLA beat Heaven for gods sake....lol

paeng
Have you watched Dragonball Z Episodes? I think not.

Avalonofthewind
I've seen quite a few actually. Interesting characters, HORRIBLE kindergarden art. Looks like you haven't read many comics either.

But...lets keep this a civil interesting debate. You give me your reasons, I give you mine.

If prevented from channeling Ki, and mentally attacked....what chance would the DBZ characters have? Just curious.

paeng
Babidi can kill anyone in the universe with a single Thought he did that in DBZ episode but he cannot do it to the DBZ Warriors because they are Mentally Powerful.

Kento
They aren't mentally powerful. What they heck are you talking about. Babidi couldn't find Goten, Trunks or Piccolo thats why he didn't do that, and ya Vegeta was easily mind controlled by Babidi...He just broke free cause of his pride. MM could easily just shut down there minds, Supes could easily beat them all, Not one of them can out move Flash, Wonder Woman could tie them all up with her Lasso that they couldn't get out of....Its not match really.

paeng
DBZ chars are mentally powerful infact with just Freeza's thought Klylin exploded and with a blink of Cell's eye he made the Tournament Ring.
Babidi cannot sense them because they are hiding they're aura. And DBZ characters moves with superspeed. No human can get away with DBZ fighters tell me if there is. Superman has been knocked out by Lobo Wonder Woman and many others, Superman can't even catch Batman who is only a human.

Avalonofthewind
They can still be mentally controlled. Didn't Babidi control Vegeta?
Once again...how powerful are they if their chi is taken away?
It's not power cosmic....
Together, the JLA are extreme strategists and extremely hard to beat once prepared.

paeng
Vegeta is willing to be controlled because he wanted to be more powerful than Gokou and once Vegeta is controlled by Babidi Vegeta's will grow stronger than it ever was before.

I think they are more powerful than Cosmic because they are chosen to fight in the side of the King of the Universe Kaioshin and his Mentor, And DBZ Warriors has been in Heaven and Hell before and they're spirit will live on without the body like what happen in the DBZ Series and it's Movies.

The Justice League has been defeated by the Joker Grundee and other normal supervillains that does'nt have Superspeed, Strength.

Tormentor_2004
DBZ AGAIN!!!

Kento
Originally posted by paeng
DBZ chars are mentally powerful infact with just Freeza's thought Klylin exploded and with a blink of Cell's eye he made the Tournament Ring.
Babidi cannot sense them because they are hiding they're aura. And DBZ characters moves with superspeed. No human can get away with DBZ fighters tell me if there is. Superman has been knocked out by Lobo Wonder Woman and many others, Superman can't even catch Batman who is only a human.

They used there KI to do all that not mind powers.

Superman almost killed Batman while resisting mind control so don't tell me Batman can no catch Batman.

Flash, and Supes alone move fast enough to take them out, MM has more power mentally then Babidi could dream of plus the sheer power to be useful in a fight. Even Wonder Woman can take on them cause she's close to Supes in power.

FistOfThe North
The only thing DBZ characters have really is mostly strength.

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by kgkg
it doesn't work on DBZ chars.

HAHAHA Effective forms of attack don't work on DBZ characters!? ARGH! THE MADNESS!

paeng
The fact is DC Company CARES so much about they're characters that they will let Batman wins if he fight Superman they will let Flash Wins against Wonder Woman. And the entire DC Superheroes are living in just one world. That's why DC Super Heroes has many weaknessess.

paeng
And another while DBZ fighters are just fighting it out in the air, the Entire World shakes. And they are not like the Flash who can get stumbled just by a little rock and get unconsious.

Avalonofthewind
Dragonball characters also get hurt by means that wouldnt do anything to some JLA members... they can be hurt by throwing a rock at them if they arent aware. They get hurt crashing into mountains.. things that Supes, WW, MM, or GL could shrug off easily.

This is easy. Bats and MM figure out that the DBZ characters use Chi. GL surrounds them with fields that prevent them from accessing chi. Wonder woman lassos them, Supes heat visions them to nothing, MM shuts off their synapses...etc etc etc.

JLA have had trouble with weak smart foes but have also beaten foes far stronger than the DBZ characters combined.

Kento
Batman has never won a fight with Supes in Canon. He fought Supes in Hush which was canon, and nearly got himself killed. Even in Batman/Superman issue a future Superman almost killed Bats if not for Superman being there it would have happened.

Swanky-Tuna
And not like Flash because they can't travel through time under "their own" power.

Kento
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Dragonball characters also get hurt by means that wouldnt do anything to some JLA members... they can be hurt by throwing a rock at them if they arent aware. They get hurt crashing into mountains.. things that Supes, WW, MM, or GL could shrug off easily.

This is easy. Bats and MM figure out that the DBZ characters use Chi. GL surrounds them with fields that prevent them from accessing chi. Wonder woman lassos them, Supes heat visions them to nothing, MM shuts off their synapses...etc etc etc.

JLA have had trouble with weak smart foes but have also beaten foes far stronger than the DBZ characters combined.

I don't see how GL could make a shield that stops there ki from forming but he could make as KI immunity shield around the JLA which automatically wins the fight since the Z warriors are more for ki fights.

Jimmy Buggs
i think superman would have a problem with the big monkey guy

paeng
The Chi Energy comes from their body it is not like GL's power witch comes from the ring.

paeng
Lobo has beaten Superman, and Lobo is a slow fighter. DBZ Warriors will just pound them in an instant.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Kento
I don't see how GL could make a shield that stops there ki from forming but he could make as KI immunity shield around the JLA which automatically wins the fight since the Z warriors are more for ki fights.

Normally, GL wouldnt be able to do it..but since the thread is about the whole JLA. People like Bats, WW, and MM are all familiar with how chi works, and they've instructed GL on how to create effective traps before. GL's only weakness (technically) is his will or if he doesnt understand how something works.
JLA together is an incredible team. Especially when Grant was writing them.

Kento
Originally posted by paeng
Lobo has beaten Superman, and Lobo is a slow fighter. DBZ Warriors will just pound them in an instant.

Lobo could kill everybody from Vegetto down with ease if he was paid to,

Kento
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Normally, GL wouldnt be able to do it..but since the thread is about the whole JLA. People like Bats, WW, and MM are all familiar with how chi works, and they've instructed GL on how to create effective traps before. GL's only weakness (technically) is his will or if he doesnt understand how something works.
JLA together is an incredible team. Especially when Grant was writing them.

Yea but he could do it if MM told him how. Plus all the JLA are link telepathically so they're all being told wat to do at speed of thought while the only two Z warriors that work well together are Goten, and Trunks.

paeng
The DBZ chars are not just KI fight's they battle it out by Hand to Hand combat till there is nothing left to fight.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Kento
Yea but he could do it if MM told him how. Plus all the JLA are link telepathically so they're all being told wat to do at speed of thought while the only two Z warriors that work well together are Goten, and Trunks.

Exactly the point I was trying to bring up. Thanks.

Kento
Originally posted by paeng
The DBZ chars are not just KI fight's they battle it out by Hand to Hand combat till there is nothing left to fight.

But they only way they can do anything amazing like blow up planets, and junk is with Ki. They're not that strong otherwise.

Being hit in the head with rock = hurt if they aren't paying attention

Being knocked thru mountains = hurt during fights.

Without Ki to do any big effect to any of the few they blast like anybody but WW, SM, MM and Flash they are finished. Plus they don't even work well as a team unless its Goten, and Trunks, and there it no Goten in this fight.

paeng
Superman is hurt while Wonder Woman smash him into a wall
Green Lantern w/shield is hurt when some one throw a grenade in him
Wonder Woman is not as fast as Supes or Flash and not as strong
Martian cannot Telepathically hold them because they have Will Power better than any other heroes I've seen.
Flash can be easily deafeted with one punch
Batman can be easily deafeted one punch

All that is in there s what I saw in Comics and Watched in TV.

Kento
No VEGETA has willpower better then anybody cause of his pride. Nobody else has ever been controlled, and Vegeta was only able to be controlled cause of the evil in his heart.

What GL are you using? That's a nice factor in the fight also.

They'd have to catch Flash but they wouldn't be able to cause he'd be moving to fast for them. MM it also a lot stronger telepath then Babidi, plus intangible they can't hit him, and invisible they can't see him. Batman = dead. Anybody under WW in power = Dead. WW, and up = kicking there butt with ease.

You don't even have Goten yet u have Trunks. At least put up two ppl that can fight together. The rest of the Z team are more one on one fighters while the JLA can fight one on one, or group on group.

paeng
When Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and MM are fighting normal people can see them. Plus Superman can't fight at superspeed when he is facing strong beings like Wonder Woman, Grundee(very slow has been dupe by Joker), Lobo, Hulk, Even while he is fighting Flash or Batman.
MM cannot Telepathically hold DBZ Warriors because all of them have strong will.

Even if GL has his ring he can be easily blown off in the inside.

Kento
How can a GL be easily blown aside? Plus which one is it? Kyle, Hal, or John.

paeng
Kyle Hal and Stewart

Avalonofthewind
Superman fought Doomsday at Super Speed, and has done many things at super speed. Instant transport is not super-speed. Being faster than the eye is also not difficult.

Dragonball characters get caught all the time with normal speed attacks. They only start moving fast once they are physically fighting.

Supes can easily turn them into nothing with just his heat vision. Martian vision is just as bad.

As a team...the JLA is too much of a force for the characters you put up.

Kento
All three?? >.> Yea NOW ur just trying to get rid of the Z warriors. Those Three alone can win. And its a stretch sayin they'd need MM, and SM to help.

Avalonofthewind
Kyle is no longer a rookie, He knows what he's doing..and is great with the ring.
Stewarts will is ridiculous, and he's good too.
Hal's on another level.

paeng
Remember that Green Lantern's are only human DBZ Warriors can blow them up with a mere talk.

Plus DBZ Warriors are very Powerful in fact they have been chosen by the king of the Universe to fight for them and even if they die they're spirit are still alive. That is "IF" JLA can kill them.

Kento
GL's are Human..But so is Tien, Yamcha, Krillen, Pan, Trunks, and the GL have the GL rings which do what ever the weilder wants.

The only problem is..Hal's ring can't effect a Super Saiyan. But who needs to when you got Kyle making giant anime robot maids, and John shooting beams at them or containing them, and Hal just takes out the ones without yellow auras.

Kyle can easily win against them alone, Hal couldn't cause of the yellow, and John...from what I know he'd need SM, and MM's help.

Plus they can create ki nullifiers or any other kind of weapon they want. A GL is way more powerful then anything they've face, and no Spirit Bomb will save them here.

paeng
Remember that DBZ world is different than the DC world because when Tien trains he becomes stronger and Gohan teach Videl how to fly even if she is a woman. You see DBZ Warriors get stronger when they train.

Kento
Yea they do. But how's that gonna help them against a weapon that can do anything the weilder wants?

They couldn't blast, and they couldn't hit a GL..'cept Hal, and the GL could just create a weapon that could hold, or kill the fighters.

paeng
Do you really think DBZ Warriors can be beaten by just that??? GL is just a human even Hawkgirl can smash through GL's shield and that smash from Hawkgirl cannot destroy or caused an earthquake that can shake the earth.

Avalonofthewind
It still doesn't negate that they need chi.
While DBZ is powerful, they operate on certain physics that are too similar...basically, defeat one, you can defeat most of them. DC superheroes have different powers weaknesses. JLA together will beat the DBZ team...especially with 3 GL's.
They are not going to beat them with mere talk..unless they bore them to death....lol
Hal is the only one that can't affect them directly...but he's fought foes with yellow before in other ways...like when he beat down Mongul by turning his will into strength (similar to what DBZ characters do.)

paeng
The DBZ Warriors are defeated by "A MUCH MORE STRONGER BEING" not like JLA who has normal human members. If the JLA is that strong then why do they need human members.

Remeber that DBZ Warriors is all out ACTION not like DC heroes who spend much more time chit chatting.

nigel45
Originally posted by paeng
The DBZ Warriors are defeated by "A MUCH MORE STRONGER BEING" not like JLA who has normal human members. If the JLA is that strong then why do they need human members.

Remeber that DBZ Warriors is all out ACTION not like DC heroes who spend much more time chit chatting.

J'onn, Clark, and Diana are hardly "normal human members".

And the JLA consistenly fights AND defeats much stronger adversaries.

Kento
Most of the Z warriors are human. Granted they got ki, and stuff but still human.

Plus GL's are humans sure...but yea I think they could be beaten easily. All they are is the same fighting style basically, and the same type of attack. Find what works on one, and then its over for the Z warriors while they JLA have to many different weaknesses to find out, and Z team only has Piccolo that counts as being smart while there is Batman, and MM, plus Flash who can think of more things in a second then anybody else on the field can think of in hours.

And they got humans cause not all threats need some super power houses, and need brains.

Paola
No DBZ characters

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