Iraq child hunger report denied

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PVS
the most effective way for US and UK officials to fix the mess they created: deny it's happening!!! BRILLIANT!!! roll eyes (sarcastic)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4413457.stm
Iraq child hunger report denied

The US and UK say Iraqi children are no hungrier because of the war
US and UK officials have denied reports that increasing numbers of children in Iraq are facing chronic food shortages and malnourishment.
A UN report last week said malnutrition in under-fives had almost doubled since the US-led invasion of 2003.

The UK government says hunger levels fell between 2000 when a Unicef survey was carried out and 2004 when the Iraqi Statistical Office did its own survey.

The US ambassador to the UN in Geneva also criticised the UN findings.

Last week's report, by UN hunger specialist Jean Ziegler, blamed the worsening situation in Iraq on the war led by coalition forces.

About 8% of Iraqi children are now going hungry compared with 4% under former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, Mr Ziegler told the UN Human Rights Commission meeting in Geneva.

'Dramatic improvement'

Kevin Moley, the US ambassador to the UN in Geneva, dismissed Mr Ziegler's findings.

''First, he has not been to Iraq, and second, he is wrong," he said, adding Mr Ziegler had been a long-term critic of the Iraq invasion.

''The surveys that have been taken... have indicated that the recent rise in malnutrition rates began between 2002 and 2003 under the regime of Saddam Hussein,'' Mr Moley said.

''If anything, vaccination, food aid have improved dramatically since the fall of Saddam Hussein,'' he added.

The UK's Department for International Development says the Unicef and Iraqi suggests a decline in child malnutrition from 17.3% in 2000 to 11.7% in 2004.

UK advisers in Baghdad are working with the Iraqi government on ways of reforming the food ration system to ensure that the needs of the poorest and most vulnerable families are protected.

"Reform is needed in order to reduce the burden on Iraqi finances of providing free food to everyone, and the negative effects this has on domestic agriculture and food traders," a government spokesman said.

Echuu
yeah ok whatever- i just wanna say your sig is awesome pvs

big grin

WindDancer
Originally posted by PVS
UK advisers in Baghdad are working with the Iraqi government on ways of reforming the food ration system to ensure that the needs of the poorest and most vulnerable families are protected.



Thats good enough for me. Before starting a food drive there is got to be organization.

KharmaDog
Originally posted by PVS
the most effective way for US and UK officials to fix the mess they created: deny it's happening!!! BRILLIANT!!! roll eyes (sarcastic)


The 6 tried and true debate and policy tactics in modern politics -

1. State your case or policy (it doesn't matter if it's true or if you believe it, you can always change your position later to suit your needs and lying is not an ethical issue in politics)

2. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.

3. When people finally find out that you are full of sh*t or lying then deny,deny, deny, deny.

4. If denial ceases to work, find a scapegoat and hang them out to dry, or change your policy and act like nothing's happened.

5. If all else fails, fall back on religion or try to scare the hell outta the people.

PVS
that sounds about right kharma

except post 2001, #5 has become 'evoke 9-11 to scare the shit out of people'


Originally posted by Echuu
yeah ok whatever- i just wanna say your sig is awesome pvs

big grin

thanks! Happy Dance

PVS
Originally posted by PVS
except post 2001, #5 has become 'evoke 9-11 to scare the shit out of people'


forgot to add

#6 if opponent still will not cave, grandstand and accuse them of being liberal commie anti-american and supporting the terrorists

Jackie Malfoy
OK!

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by PVS
the most effective way for US and UK officials to fix the mess they created: deny it's happening!!! BRILLIANT!!! roll eyes (sarcastic)

They copied that from me!!

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Everyone knows that there are hronic food shortages in any war, ESPECIALLY in a country that had nothing to begin with. They can deny it, but only a moron would be convinced that there are no food shortages in Iraq!

PVS
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
...only a moron would be convinced that there are no food shortages in Iraq!

unfortunately, we have a huge surplus of morons in the US who'd buy anything. how about in the UK?

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by PVS
unfortunately, we have a huge surplus of morons in the US who'd buy anything. how about in the UK? Oh there are people here who'll believe anything - frankly its kinda scary.

I think people here more openly hate Tony Blair - and they should, hes an idiot - as are our goverment officials who take us for morons by telling us everythings ok. no expression

Storm
Turning a blind eye disgust

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