Two Doctrines of Devils: Celibacy and Abstinence

1 Timothy 4:1-3
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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy;
having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Forbidding to marry,
and commanding to abstain from meats,
which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving
of them which believe and know the truth.

These two commandments can be found in the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church.

and the point with this is?

Hmmm... To learn the views of Catholics here about those Church's commandment and prohibition... regarding Celibacy and Abstinence.

Perhaps, somebody might respond.

So, anybody out there? 🙄 😊

it also says in a new testement verse that if you have enough self control and don't get overwelmed with "passions" then you shoudn't get married

You mentioned "IF".

Meaning, to become celibate is a personal and individual choice.

Celibacy, on the other hand, has been COMPULSORY and is enforced to the priests inside the Catholic Church.

And the Bible suggests that in order to become an effective bishop, he must have a family.

And the Bible suggests that in order to become an effective bishop, he must have a family

😆 this is more about sex---

The celibacy rule in the catholic church is something admirable but the fact is that many priests cant take it and the sex scandal in the church is proof of that.
I think that priests should be able to become married but if they feel that God has called them to be celibant and they can handle it then that's fine also.

And...they should be able to change their mind if they want to get married.

And that causes grievous INCONSISTENCY in their church doctrines.

PrinceofBlades, as a Catholic, do you also respect the Church commandment regarding Celibacy... and do you observe Abstinence during Lenten Season?

Jury, do you keep the Sabbath? And if not...show me the verse where it was done away with..

I don't have the Bible with me now. And cannot answer that right now. I'll be back for this... I'll just check the exact verse out. ...because I cannot remember the exact Bible verse saying that Christians do not need to observe Sabbath.

I believe it was never changed...I can't find one verse that says it was. If it was never changed and people believe we should follow Gods words, then everyone should be keeping it. Wouldn't you agree?

So why would Jesus proclaimed that out of 10 commandments God has given to Israel before, only two were considered as 'most important' commandments?

Does this mean to disregard the rest?

Actually no. In fact, all commandments were still imposed to the Christian era... EXCEPT... the observance of Sabbath Day.

Jesus Himself didn't observe Sabbath anymore:

For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
John 5:18 (New International Version)
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Also the Apostles:

One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels. Some of the Pharisees asked, "Why are you doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?"
Jesus answered them, "Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and taking the consecrated bread, he ate what is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions." 5Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."
Luke 6:1-5 (New International Version)
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This only shows that:

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Colossians 2:16 (New International Version)
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not only are you biased agains caholics you sound very much like anti semetic as well

If you're going to be so rigid on the Catholics, then you MUST recognize that the Sabbath was not done away with. Show me the verse where JESUS SAID the Sabbath is of no effect. Just because he ate kernels on the Sabbath doesn't mean that they were done away with. Of course the Pharisees would say he was breaking the sabbath...THEY had imposed impossible rules to keep it. Jesus said He was LORD of the Sabbath, which means it is HIS DAY. So, really you could say it is the LORDS day...The Sabbath was changed to Sunday by our buddy Constantine. King of the changes...NOW, I could say that there are some churches that would teach something different than yours, which would be to follow after the Antichrist (Catholic Church), is by keeping IT's laws...and it's said to have changed times and days...Which is said to be the changing of the 4 th commandment. Unless you can show me that a change was made by Jesus, then YOU TOO are breaking it, because it IS written in the Bible.....SO..then are you going to take everything literally? ALSO, the keeping of new moons etc. is not talking about he weekly Sabbath, it's talking about the feast days...

As the Bible says:

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Colossians 2:16
New International Version (NIV)

So, whether you observe Sabbath Day or not, it doesn't matter in the Christian era anymore.

The covenant made by God with the Israel was changed during the Christian dispensation. Meaning, a new priesthood was replaced. The old covenant, with respect to its term, has its own effectivity... and that was until the birth of John the Baptist. And with a new priesthood, a new covenant stipulated... new laws are imposed.

well if it is a new covenant, why bother with the old one?

Originally posted by Jury
As the Bible says:

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
[b]Colossians 2:16
New International Version (NIV)

So, whether you observe Sabbath Day or not, it doesn't matter in the Christian era anymore.

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What other commandment would we do away with since we are under the new covenant??? AND look again at what you quoted...

The New Moon celebration or Sabbath..were many...there were other days that were not the seventh day that were concederd Sabbath too. Eating and drink should be a great give away...that had to do with the feast days not the seventh day... OR are you saying that we should throw out the whole OT?....That is before John the B.