Cosmic Free-for-All

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armandovalles
the contestants:

THANOS
GALACTUS
DRAX
SILVER SURFER
THOR
FIRELORD
GLADIATOR
TERRAX
MORG
NOVA
GAMORA
ADAM WARLOCK
APOCALYPSE
ONSLAUGHT
THE MAGUS
D'KEN
PHOENIX FORCE
ASGARDIAN DESTROYER
WONDERMAN

NO WEAPONS ALLOWED EXCEPT FOR MJOLIR (THOR'S HAMMER) AND FIRELORD'S STAFF

savagerampage
probably the phoneix force, or thanos

armandovalles
BUT WHAT IF THEY ALL REALIZED THAT IT WAS GONNA COME DOWN TO GALACTUS, THANOS, AND THE PHOENIX FORCE AND EVERYONE TEAMED UP AGAINST THEM

armandovalles
OK NO MORE PHOENIX FORCE, THANOS, AND GALACTUS NOW WHO WILL WIN?

ZephroCarnelian
Without Phoenix, Thanos or Big G?

I'd say The Destroyer.

armandovalles
I'd say either the Silver Surfer or Gladiator, depending on his confidence.

GalacticStorm
Phoenix force would take this if it was no holds barred. But if it isnt to be included and weapons arent either then id definitely go for Galactus as long as he's well nourished. Thanos knows he's no match for Galactus and without aid can just hold his own from him before having to flee after a while. This was stated and displayed in thanos' recent series about 6 months ago. So top three would be phoenix then galactus then thanos

armandovalles
Actually i think phoenix and big g would destroy each other and then it would be up for grabs

GalacticStorm
Nah phoenix has proven itself to be too much for galactus on more than one occassion plus at the end of the dark phoenix saga the watcher confirmed that the phoenix was indeed the most powerful force in the universe. Read it and find out.

savagerampage
more powerful then lt?

GalacticStorm
was LT created by marvel at that time who knows. But galactus and a lot of the other abstract entities certainly had been made up by then. But no we all know LT's the top dog. Lets just assume he hadnt been cmade up way bk then

savagerampage
i thought eternity,death, lt galactus, were top dogs

GalacticStorm
Nah Living Tribunals second only to the one above all/ Heart of the universe. Followed by the likes of Eternity and the phoenix force. Death holds no power over the phoenix and cant touch it. Death however holds power over galactus who can and has died. Death is always appearing to G askin whether hes ready to giv in to the inevitable. Galactus is indeed a balancing force between eternity and death. He is equal in status to them but not in power

GalacticStorm
The phoenix force is a servant of the LT and is a doctor of the universe. It allows certain individuals to tap into its power to carry out caretaking duties throughout the universe

GalacticStorm
These avatars heal what needs to be healed for the sake of existence (the m'kraan crystal) and burn away what doesnt work(D'bari star system and sublime)

GalacticStorm
Galactus once tried to remove the phoenix force from rachel and the universes stars started to fade away. The phoenix is an essential part of the universe

savagerampage
The force itself cant be destroyed only the avatar of the phoniex right?

GalacticStorm
Yeah the force itself cant be destroyed. Its sentient life and pyschic energy of everything in existence including future generations. So unless you can destroy the present and the future forever which you cant then no it cant be destroyed itself. Its avatars physical bodies can be destroyed yet they will be reborn again from a phoenix egg at a different place in the timeline to carry on their work. When jean was recently "killed" by the fake magneto last year in xmen she was reborn many years in the future from a phoenix egg and destroyed the destructive mutant sublime

GalacticStorm
Phoenix avatars die to be reborn. And there can only be one true phoenix avatar at one time. Thats why after the original phoenix died, rachel summers became phoenix 2 but when she lost her phoenix powers after getting sucked in2 a future timeline jean started manifesting the phoenix again

savagerampage
i see

GalacticStorm
Yeah a lot of people dont actually know that much about the phoenixes status and just overlook it when it comes to cosmic rankings

GalacticStorm
Any1 else got opinions on this cosmic free for all?

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