Nationalism- Whats the deal?
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long pig
Why do people care what country they are from?
Your country doesnt make you a better person or smarter, hell, your government couldnt care less about you.
So, why do we get angry when someone bashes our country(Canada and America are by far the worst bashers).
Right now im arguing about american superiority even tho I dont actually believe we are, I just couldnt stand someone bash the U.S.A without sticking up for it.
Stupid? yes.
Whats your thoughts?
Is nationalism a good thing?
Clovie
i don't give the feck about our gov, actually i wouldn't mind them all starving on some lonely island.
but i DO care about our traditions and ppl. and it is what the deal is about.
ChickinMeat
I dont care which country im from, im english but its not like i chose to be born there, so i dont say im "proud" of it.
people can bash england all they want, i wont be standing up for it anytime soon.
thats just my opinion though.
long pig
Same here, to me, our government is against us. But they less against us than they are against everyone else.
I think its the new "cool thing to do" in canada and UK to hate us, when in all truth they like us.
Or they hate us because we couldnt care less about anyone else except ourselves.
I wish someone from another country could talk about this without going on a rant on how "bush iz teh devil..!" bullshit.
Fire
I think you mean patriotism
Clovie
Originally posted by Fire
I think you mean patriotism but partiotism is loving your country..
and as far as i noticed...it was mostly about saying that all the other countries are worse (than USA
).. so nationalism
long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.
By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.
hmm...you just said that clovie
lol
I wonder how far this argument will go if i antagonise it Clovie?
btw im not bein serious in the other thread.
Clovie where are you from?
long pig
oh, cool.
my family orginated from there.
How is it outside right now? chilly?
IceWithin
Originally posted by long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.
By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.
hmm...you just said that clovie
lol
I wonder how far this argument will go if i antagonise it Clovie?
btw im not bein serious in the other thread.
Clovie where are you from?
not true
Nationalist are conservatives
they dont want change, they want to keep they're way of talking, eating, ****ing, anything
they have a paranoia thinking that any foreigner will change everything
long pig
Eh, you may be right, but I was going for something else.
Even tho I dont like my country, even I get mad when someone disrespects it, and it kinda frightens me.
Thats how the nazis started.
Its a young brother type thing.
I can bash the USA all i want, but no one else can or i flip.
This just worries me, all this elitist bullshit.....we just need to love each other! haha...seriously we do.
IceWithin
that doesnt make u a nationalist dont worry, beating up immigrants does, anyone gets mad when ppl start bashing their country (country and president are diff thing btw) is like when u say "I hate my mom!! grr!! I wanna kill her!!" someone else says "yo ure mom's a *****" ure like "TAKE THAT BACK!!"
Clovie
Originally posted by long pig
oh, cool.
my family orginated from there.
How is it outside right now? chilly? really?
nope, sunny and warm, 20 C degrees
IceWithin
finally someone uses a weather mesure system I know
celcius
I never understand farenheits
ChickinMeat
Originally posted by long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.
By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.
i got the wrong end of the stick then, i was talking about patriotism, ooops, my bad!
Clovie
Originally posted by IceWithin
finally someone uses a weather mesure system I know
celcius
I never understand farenheits
i don't understand farentheit, neither feet and pounds
so Celcius, Kilos and metric system ALL the way purplequeen1
IceWithin
omg go clovie!! clovie for president!!
IceWithin
diva u rock clovs
finally someone who doesnt understand farenheits or feet or punds
...wait do u understand inches?
Clovie
inch is 2.6 cm
purplequeen1
IceWithin
oh.. u understand it.. I dont... then go to hell ure no president!
now... Martin (me) for president!!
diva
Clovie
*hires proffesional hitman* purplequeen1
IceWithin
*kicks professiona's hitmans arse* diva take that sista!
Clovie
you were dead before you even noticed his presence
IceWithin
no I wasnt
Clovie
yes you were. i was at your funeral
baracustastic
Nationalism in Scotland means you want to be an independent country. i.e. not part of Britain.
It does not mean you hate foreigners and want to kick everyone out. In Scotland.
In fact the Scottish Nationalist party are actively campaigning for MORE immigrants because the population is falling and they realise we need immigrant to fill gaps for the good of the country.
IceWithin
Originally posted by Clovie
yes you were. i was at your funeral
no u werent!!
mommy!! crybaby
Clovie
Originally posted by IceWithin
no u werent!!
mommy!! crybaby but i remmeber being dev
curlers go to your ROOM now!
IceWithin
sure it wasnt the hitman's funeral?
omg my mom doesnt have those curl things cry and shes not pink
...ure not my mother!!
Clovie
ermm...i'm not sure
i just come back for hairdresser
and my own child is not admitting knowing me ranting
IceWithin
I think thats the case!
my mom doesnt rant schmoll
Clovie
so what is it?
i'm since NOW ranting
IceWithin
me not dead hitman totally dead smoke
no!! crybaby I knwo it isnt u!! *drama*
Clovie
*shoots you* both of you totally dead smoke
but it is me
*calls ambulance*
IceWithin
i know it isnt you
Clovie
i know better if i'm me or not schmoll
IceWithin
maybe u have an identidy crisis
Clovie
that's ..that's...*sniffs* IMPOSSIBLE crying
Clovie
are you stalking me? bag
IceWithin
totally
Clovie
i don't feel stalked purplequeen1
totally cry
Clovie
*doesn't notice you*
cry
Clovie
cry *goes to do something*
The Omega
Just one question: WHO... benefits from nationalism?
BullitNutz
I could say "The Military-Industrial Complex" and be done with it, but that would leave many people eager to flame me because they think I'm a conspiracy theorist due to the fact that I used one of the phrases on their list of code words.
However, I'll explain.
a) Widespread nationalistic climate amongst the population.
b) Jingoistic xenophobes voted/otherwise get into power.
c) "Someone out there has something we want, so let's bomb their asses."
d) The newly-elected Jingoistic government buys lots of military hardware from corporations, a.k.a. the "Military-Industrial Complex."
e) Profit flows towards said corporations, who in turn funnel huge amounts of money through campaign donations to politicians who pledge to swing some business their way in the form of starting BS wars.
f) Repeat.
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