Nationalism- Whats the deal?

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long pig
Why do people care what country they are from?

Your country doesnt make you a better person or smarter, hell, your government couldnt care less about you.

So, why do we get angry when someone bashes our country(Canada and America are by far the worst bashers).

Right now im arguing about american superiority even tho I dont actually believe we are, I just couldnt stand someone bash the U.S.A without sticking up for it.
Stupid? yes.

Whats your thoughts?
Is nationalism a good thing?

Clovie
i don't give the feck about our gov, actually i wouldn't mind them all starving on some lonely island.
but i DO care about our traditions and ppl. and it is what the deal is about.

ChickinMeat
I dont care which country im from, im english but its not like i chose to be born there, so i dont say im "proud" of it.

people can bash england all they want, i wont be standing up for it anytime soon.

thats just my opinion though.

long pig
Same here, to me, our government is against us. But they less against us than they are against everyone else.

I think its the new "cool thing to do" in canada and UK to hate us, when in all truth they like us.

Or they hate us because we couldnt care less about anyone else except ourselves.

I wish someone from another country could talk about this without going on a rant on how "bush iz teh devil..!" bullshit.

Fire
I think you mean patriotism

Clovie
Originally posted by Fire
I think you mean patriotism but partiotism is loving your country..
and as far as i noticed...it was mostly about saying that all the other countries are worse (than USA messed).. so nationalism erm

long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.

By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.


hmm...you just said that clovie stick out tongue lol

I wonder how far this argument will go if i antagonise it Clovie?
btw im not bein serious in the other thread.

Clovie where are you from?

Clovie
Poland.

long pig
oh, cool.
my family orginated from there.

How is it outside right now? chilly?

IceWithin
Originally posted by long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.

By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.


hmm...you just said that clovie stick out tongue lol

I wonder how far this argument will go if i antagonise it Clovie?
btw im not bein serious in the other thread.

Clovie where are you from?

not true erm Nationalist are conservatives erm they dont want change, they want to keep they're way of talking, eating, ****ing, anything erm they have a paranoia thinking that any foreigner will change everything messed

long pig
Eh, you may be right, but I was going for something else.

Even tho I dont like my country, even I get mad when someone disrespects it, and it kinda frightens me.

Thats how the nazis started.

Its a young brother type thing.
I can bash the USA all i want, but no one else can or i flip.

This just worries me, all this elitist bullshit.....we just need to love each other! haha...seriously we do.

IceWithin
that doesnt make u a nationalist dont worry, beating up immigrants does, anyone gets mad when ppl start bashing their country (country and president are diff thing btw) is like when u say "I hate my mom!! grr!! I wanna kill her!!" someone else says "yo ure mom's a *****" ure like "TAKE THAT BACK!!"

Clovie
Originally posted by long pig
oh, cool.
my family orginated from there.

How is it outside right now? chilly? really? blink

nope, sunny and warm, 20 C degrees

IceWithin
finally someone uses a weather mesure system I know laughing out loud celcius laughing out loud I never understand farenheits messed

ChickinMeat
Originally posted by long pig
Patriotism is when you love you home land, and are dedicated to "it" as a land.

By Nationalism, I'm going the way of how your country is better.


i got the wrong end of the stick then, i was talking about patriotism, ooops, my bad!

Clovie
Originally posted by IceWithin
finally someone uses a weather mesure system I know laughing out loud celcius laughing out loud I never understand farenheits messed i don't understand farentheit, neither feet and pounds messed

so Celcius, Kilos and metric system ALL the way purplequeen1

IceWithin
omg go clovie!! clovie for president!! eek!

Clovie
sure purplequeen1

IceWithin
diva u rock clovs happy finally someone who doesnt understand farenheits or feet or punds laughing out loud

...wait do u understand inches?

Clovie
inch is 2.6 cm smart


purplequeen1

IceWithin
oh.. u understand it.. I dont... then go to hell ure no president!
now... Martin (me) for president!! eek! diva

Clovie
*hires proffesional hitman* purplequeen1

IceWithin
*kicks professiona's hitmans arse* diva take that sista!

Clovie
you were dead before you even noticed his presence huh

IceWithin
no I wasnt stick out tongue

Clovie
yes you were. i was at your funeral stick out tongue

baracustastic
Nationalism in Scotland means you want to be an independent country. i.e. not part of Britain.

It does not mean you hate foreigners and want to kick everyone out. In Scotland.

In fact the Scottish Nationalist party are actively campaigning for MORE immigrants because the population is falling and they realise we need immigrant to fill gaps for the good of the country.

IceWithin
Originally posted by Clovie
yes you were. i was at your funeral stick out tongue

no u werent!!

mommy!! crybaby

Clovie
Originally posted by IceWithin
no u werent!!

mommy!! crybaby but i remmeber being dev


curlers go to your ROOM now!

IceWithin
sure it wasnt the hitman's funeral?

omg my mom doesnt have those curl things cry and shes not pink stick out tongue
...ure not my mother!!

Clovie
ermm...i'm not sure confused


i just come back for hairdresser mad and my own child is not admitting knowing me ranting

IceWithin
I think thats the case!

my mom doesnt rant schmoll stick out tongue

Clovie
so what is it? confused


i'm since NOW ranting

IceWithin
me not dead hitman totally dead smoke

no!! crybaby I knwo it isnt u!! *drama*

Clovie
*shoots you* both of you totally dead smoke


but it is me blink *calls ambulance*

IceWithin
i know it isnt you no expression

Clovie
i know better if i'm me or not schmoll

IceWithin
maybe u have an identidy crisis stick out tongue

Clovie
that's ..that's...*sniffs* IMPOSSIBLE crying

IceWithin
stick out tongue shifty ...let's just say I've got my sources ninja

Clovie
are you stalking me? bag

IceWithin
totally eek!

Clovie
i don't feel stalked purplequeen1


totally cry

IceWithin
stick out tongue ninja

*stalks clovie* no expression

Clovie
*doesn't notice you*


cry

IceWithin
stick out tongue

Clovie
cry *goes to do something*

The Omega
Just one question: WHO... benefits from nationalism?

BullitNutz
I could say "The Military-Industrial Complex" and be done with it, but that would leave many people eager to flame me because they think I'm a conspiracy theorist due to the fact that I used one of the phrases on their list of code words.

However, I'll explain.

a) Widespread nationalistic climate amongst the population.

b) Jingoistic xenophobes voted/otherwise get into power.

c) "Someone out there has something we want, so let's bomb their asses."

d) The newly-elected Jingoistic government buys lots of military hardware from corporations, a.k.a. the "Military-Industrial Complex."

e) Profit flows towards said corporations, who in turn funnel huge amounts of money through campaign donations to politicians who pledge to swing some business their way in the form of starting BS wars.

f) Repeat.

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