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Two megalithic structures of ultimate power. Which of the two is supreme.

death star

Oh no doubt the Death Star wins. The Star Forge is a factory that makes ships which the Death Star can easily fend off. The Death Star has a superlaser which cannot be deflected and which easily destroys the Star Forge.

actually it kind of depends. If the Star Forge is ready it could produce a huge army to fight off the Death Star and it only takes two proton torpedoes to destroy it. With enough ships the Star Forge could block the Death Star's superlaser trajectory and the first one had to wait several hours before it could fire again. If the Death Star came out of no where it would win.

the star forge could just build a ship and tell it to ram through the death star at full sublight. rinse repeat. mile long bullets would shred the death star

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
the star forge could just build a ship and tell it to ram through the death star at full sublight. rinse repeat. mile long bullets would shred the death star

lmao.... Good one. Hadn't thought of that. Why build ships with weapons when ships are weapons. A technique as old as the seas.

Pretty much, the Death Star would win if it could get a good shot at the Star Forge, but like said before if the Star Forge had time to prepare it would produce so many ships that they would just block the Death star its laser and then ram it to oblivion...

And of course we can not forget the shield if the Death star came in range of the Star Forge before those things were deactivated it would just crash on the Rakatan planet... Probably destroying that and the temple of ancients making the star forge a lot weaker for a next attack, but it would still be there

lol, good point fishy. However, the ship crashing might not be too effective. First there's all the tractor beams. Secondly, even the capital ships are more than 40 times smaller than the Death Star.

So? You get a 100 ships, there is no way the death star can handle all of that at the same time... Not to mention you can throw thousands of fighters and captiol ships at it just to distract it and its crew while the rest start ramming them.

That space station could withstand 100 ships. Besides it has hundreds of turbolasers and was built to withstand capital ship attacks. In its time capital ships were about 3 times as big as KOTOR capital ships.

Yeah but they can't haul in a 100 ships at once, nor put them all in a tractor beam... The star forge ships would penetrate the Death star defences, maybe the first wave wouldn't kill it, but then a second a third and god knows how many more..

Not to mention that size with things like this doesn't matter as much as you woudl think, one little plane can still take out a cruiser, Japan took out ABDA ships like that. With enough ships ramming the Death star it would surely be damaged into oblivion

Good point. Size matters not. Judge me by my size, will you? Hmmm?

Never use that line with a chick.

Alright, back to business. The Star Forge's abilities lie in creation. It draws on the Force itself and makes ships, armaments, etc. But what it doesn't make is personnel. Unless you can modify it to make droid piloted ships, or it can launch those suckers out at sublight speeds, there would have to be ample personnel to conduct a suicide run.

But on the other hand, the Death Star was slower than hell when it came down to it. The Rebels had time for a conference, clothes change, scramble all their fighters, make it past waves of TIE and the turrets, and make the kill. Ships spit out by the Star Forge weren't mere snub fighters, and the bigger ones could engage the turrets and fighters long before the Death Star could come into Orbit. Keep in mind that if the Death Star was coming from a certain angle, it would be just like the Yavin fiasco. Thirty minutes until firing... What the? There's half a million ships out there...

Even without a crew the star forge would still be able to use empty ships to block the Death star from firing... I mean it would be stupid if the thing pooped out all the ships at the exact same location...

So at the very least it would make the death star useless while some programmer starts reprogramming droids to crashland ships, which can probably be done pretty easily...

Then its just a matter of time until the Death star meets its end

Don't get me wrong, I think the Star Forge would probably win. I'm just giving the Death Star some credit.

All it would need is one clear shot, but if the Star forge would have time to prepare it probably wouldn't be able to get that

actually, aaccording to stardestroyer.net, the second death star has about a million times the mass of an imperial star dastroyer

The second one couldn't move yet...

Well I went to starwars.com, looked at the size of the Leviathan, then the size of the first death star (which is smaller than the second) and it was about 43 times bigger. Of course, I forgot to say it was about 43 times bigger in diameter. whoops.

Couldnt the star forge manufacture multiple death stars to fight off the one?

question: WHAT material was the star forge building all of these ships from?

Presumably metals mined from the outermost layers of the star's core.

hmm, presumably. that isn't an infinite resource is it?

No.

oh, and Z, does it say that at all in KOTOR? or was that your guess?

Oh that's a wild guess based on the stream of going from the star to the Forge. I wouldn't even call it a conjecture, since we'll almost certainly never find out.

It's probably using the energy and matter from the star and using the... Dark Side, somehow, to form in to the necessary metals and gases.


Death Star wins though.

Well there is metal in the Star so it really wouldn't need to form it.

All the specific metals and alloys necessary for capital ships and starfighters are just sitting there on the top of the star waiting to be sucked up? That is one b*tchin star.

Well, only the best for Revan.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
All the specific metals and alloys necessary for capital ships and starfighters are just sitting there on the top of the star waiting to be sucked up? That is one b*tchin star.

SW Magic Tech + Star Sized Supply of Hydrogen & Helium = Any Element You Want

Holy shit, this is old. Emperor Revan? Athrasknight? Fishy? You don't even see those guys anymore, and haven't for many years.

Without any sort of prep time? Death star easily.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
the star forge could just build a ship and tell it to ram through the death star at full sublight. rinse repeat. mile long bullets would shred the death star


The Death Star was a ground zero of a planet exploding and jack all was done to it. The Death Star novel mentioned mountain chunks impacting it's shields