Evangel's Amalgam Tournament Draft: Final Draft Day (Choose Now! First Choice!)

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Evangel94
Please draft your final characters.

Scarlet Spider, Digimark, and LongPig, are all now partcipating. Demigawd is no longer allowed to participate.

Current List of Chosen Characters:

Khellendros
Mr Majestic
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/majestic.htm

Blackbolt
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/terrigenmist/BlackBolt.html


Nataku8188
Silver Surfer
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=590

Damage
http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/damage.html#hist

K Von Doom
Morg
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/morg.htm

Martian Manhunter
http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/mmanhunter/manhunter.html

Sentry
Captain Marvel
Also known as Genis Vell :
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainmarveliii.htm

Dr. Druid
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/drdruid.htm

DigiMark007
ZOD
http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/GeneralZod.htm

Loki
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/l/loki.htm

Longpig (Added)
Dr Strange
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoop...php?entryID=223

gautam
Juggernaut
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=366

Dr. Fate
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/drfate.html

stormfront13
Bloodstorm
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/red_rain

Iceman
www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/iceman.htm

Scoobless
Flash (Wally West)
http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/wally.html

Quasar
http://www.quantumzone.org/behind_the_scenes/everything_quantum-bands.html

ScarletSpider
Impulse/Kid Flash II
http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/bart.html

Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/green_lantern/gl.html

Ready Draft!

Khellendros
Maelstrom: Powers
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/maelstrom.htm

EDIT: don't forget, the board adds those "..." itself!

stormfront13
ev you got one of my pivks wrong i picked nimrod instead of iceman and my third pick is ZATANNA

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquar...8681/table.html


http://www.unstable.com/whoswho/zatanna.htm

Evangel94
Originally posted by stormfront13
ev you got one of my pivks wrong i picked nimrod instead of iceman and my third pick is ZATANNA

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquar...8681/table.html


http://www.unstable.com/whoswho/zatanna.htm

To Stormfront:

I already stated you may not have nimrod and you can't change your choices during the draft.

nimbus006
Nice choice Khellendros

stormfront13
why can't i have nimrod?? please tell me cause you seem to not likn any characters i choose and seem biased

Khellendros
Originally posted by nimbus006
Nice choice Khellendros
big grin Gracias. Assuming Evangel dosn't disqualify him, I'm pretty happy with my choices.

stormfront13
and ev others have changed choices during draft

Nataku8188
Is Psylocke's psychic knife allowed ?

K Von Doom
My team looks weak as compared to the others. Heh

I'll take Mordred the mystic from the Darkhold, will post a link shortly eek!

DigiMark007
crap...I'm back in....gotta think...back in an hour or so...

big grin

Oh, since Zod was initially Quick Freeze's pick, can I switch him for He-Man??? He's probably not allowed, but I figured I'd try. Here's a link...not too good, but it's all I could find on short notice.

http://www.geocities.com/sdoht2/heman.html

He can channel power directly from the universe itself (via Castle Greyskull) to enhance his strength.

-DM

P.S. darnnit Sentry...didn't think anyone had Genis yet. I was seriously considreing him as my 3rd....oh well.

Scoobless
Thor (The Mighty)

http://www.avengersforever.org/characters/Characters.asp

K Von Doom
Mordred the mystic

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/modredmystic.htm

DigiMark007
holy crap....while looking for a better website for he-man I stumbled across something...they're planning a 2006 He-Man movie, directed by John Woo!!!

DigiMark007
http://he-man.3wpages.com/

Another one...this one, amidst other stuff, has something about him being strongest man in the universe...I don't think my earlier link mentioned it.

-DM

P.S. He-Man is hard as heck to find a good link for...

ScarletSpider
Sersi--

http://www.norse-man.net/Marvel/Char-S/Sersi.htm

Khellendros
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Is Psylocke's psychic knife allowed ?
It shuts down minds.

Sentry
Beta Ray Bill


http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-betaraybill.html

Nataku8188
Originally posted by Khellendros
It shuts down minds.

At melee range, and only with enough power. A basic slice will just cause extreme mental pains.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Sentry
Beta Ray Bill


http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-betaraybill.html

did i "steal" another of your first choices with Thor........... lol

stick out tongue

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
did i "steal" another of your first choices with Thor........... lol

stick out tongue
Pffft, BRB is better anyways! He took on Thor before he even got his uru hammer, that's not too shabby.

Scoobless
i take it the Captain Marvel version Sentry is using is the one prior to him becoming an all powerful god-type guy...... right?

Scoobless
Originally posted by Khellendros
Pffft, BRB is better anyways! He took on Thor before he even got his uru hammer, that's not too shabby.

BRB is a poor man's second rate Thor...... but i was thinking of him as a reserve if someone nabbed the real deal

cool

Sentry
Genis Vell is on par with guys like Surfer, he isn't above skyfather level. BRB is not a second rate Thor. He is Thor, only with a horse face.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Sentry
Genis Vell is on par with guys like Surfer, he isn't above skyfather level.

back in his comic a year or two ago he recreated the universe (or something similar that showed tremendous power)

Sentry
Don't worry, he's not that powerful. ^__^

Scoobless
Originally posted by Sentry
Don't worry, he's not that powerful. ^__^

lol............... i f*cking hope not

laughing out loud

Khellendros
Edit: NOTHING TO SEE HERE

Scoobless
Originally posted by Khellendros
Edit: NOTHING TO SEE HERE

my Scooby sense is tingling

confused

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
my Scooby sense is tingling

confused
No no, nothing to tingle about. Nothing happened at all.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Khellendros
No no, nothing to tingle about. Nothing happened at all.

i hope you're not waiting to see who others pick before deciding how best to counter specific combos........ cos that wouldn't be nice you know sad

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
i hope you're not waiting to see who others pick before deciding how best to counter specific combos........ cos that wouldn't be nice you know sad
Dude, I already posted my third pick stick out tongue. And I agree, picking characters specifically to counter others character would not be nice at all.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Khellendros
Dude, I already posted my third pick stick out tongue. And I agree, picking characters specifically to counter others character would not be nice at all.

dude............. i totally already knew that (and even read the bio you provided.....lol) but somehow i forgot..... i got mixed up and thought it was you that was considering Psylocke

big grin

i decided on my last two characters this morning after regretting my drunken Drax pick...... glad he wasn't allowed..... lol

laughing out loud

DigiMark007
Any word on switching Zod for He-Man???

I have my 3rd pick ready, but it depends on the He-Man thing (I have a few ready depending on the verdict).

-DM

P.S. Didn't pay enough attention to people's picks...for a while MM looked good to me too...didn't realize until recently that KVD had him.

K Von Doom
Works both ways though. You can wait but then your character might get nabbed. And I don't think there's a character out there that can counter every character that's been picked.

DigiMark007
no...my character won't get nabbed...I'm not worried there. And you're right, there isn't a character who can universally counter everyone. I'm not basing my picks on other people's picks...I'm just trying to build a good amalgam. That said, my combination of powers and needs shifts slightly depending on whether or not I have Zod or He-Man as my #1 pick...so I have to wait. Most likely He-Man will be banned, and so I'll make my 3 pick eventuallly even if I don't know about He-Man, because it doesn't change a ton...just slightly...either of the picks I have in mind will work ok.

-DM

K Von Doom
Originally posted by DigiMark007
P.S. Didn't pay enough attention to people's picks...for a while MM looked good to me too...didn't realize until recently that KVD had him.

I'll trade you Manhunter for Loki... heh... on second thought eek!

DigiMark007
no thanks. I like my magic-user. I see you found a second-rate replacement for him though (Mordred). haha.

-DM

DigiMark007
just kidding..not a bad pick, but no trade.

K Von Doom
I was just kidding... I think I need Manhunter a bit more than Loki eek!

ScarletSpider
He participated in the recreation of the Universe. He provided a small bit of energy to allow the big bang to happen. Whereupon Entropy did the rest and transformed himself into Eternity. It wasn't even Genis that provided the energy for it, he used his standard issue Kree energy pistol/blaster thing to provide Entropy with the small amount of energy to catalyze the cosmic reaction.

DigiMark007
Ok, fudge it. He-Man should definitely be banned. The only reason I tried to pick him was so that Evangel would rush in here and ban him so that no one else would be able to pick him either. His strength is infinite....and actually infinite, not like the Hulk fanboys argue Hulk is. Teamed with a proper magical defense, it'd be unstoppable. So kinda like the Drax w/gem deal, where it's infinite and if it was given to someone smarter than Drax it would be unstoppable...He-Man should be banned for the same reason.

...as soon as I find the link I'll be back with my last pick...

-DM

DigiMark007
Apollo...from The Authority

http://members.tripod.com/rikmertens/image/apollo.html

...

I already got a name for my amalgam. Apollo is also known as "The Sun King". General Zod + The Sun King = General King. Now add in Loki and you get General Kin-ki. But let's smooth out the spelling a bit...

"General Kinky"

Beware the wrath of my unconventional, militaristic sex-toys. *evil laugh*

cool
-DM

Khellendros
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Apollo...from The Authority

http://members.tripod.com/rikmertens/image/apollo.html

...

I already got a name for my amalgam. Apollo is also known as "The Sun King". General Zod + The Sun King = General King. Now add in Loki and you get General Kin-ki. But let's smooth out the spelling a bit...

"General Kinky"

Beware the wrath of my unconventional, militaristic sex-toys. *evil laugh*

cool
-DM
NICE choice. I also like that link because it equates Majestic-class beings with Silver Surfer. big grin

DigiMark007
Ha, yeah. I actually liked that too when I saw it (I'll reference it if I fight Nataku...lol)

-DM

long pig
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long pig
can i have cyttorak, he is below herald...beloe skyfather.

long pig
ok ok ok cybers adamantium covers IM Asgaurdian buster armor(which by way of Cyber is covered with poison that if you touch me you start to hallucinate) with Dr strange's magic

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php

IM
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=349

I still want cyttorak evang, can i have him.
He is Thor Level.

DigiMark007
Question longpig...are you allowed to specify Asgardian Buster armor? Or are you just getting regular IM? Compared to mainstream IM armors, Asgardian didn't show up as much. I suppose it would like saying War Hulk or something...so it's probably ok. Just thought I'd mention it so that Evangel could clarify the rule on that...

-DM

DigiMark007
Cyttorak is at Skyfather level. Odin was scared when he "escaped" from somewhere. He's definitely above Thor, and I doubt he's allowed. We are talking about the guy whose magic gave Juggernaut his powers, right? gautam would crap his pants if you got him...hehe

-DM

long pig
Whats IM most powerful armor DM?

long pig
Dr Strange has put Cyttorak in place before, only reason ODIN is scared is because Cytt is insane.

Cyttorak is on Loki's level

long pig
IS champ of the universe w/o gem ok? or is it cuz hes an immortal?

DigiMark007
Originally posted by long pig
Whats IM most powerful armor DM?

I've heard of Thor Buster armor (never heard of asgardian, but I imagine it's the same thing), but I didn't mean to say your pick shouldn't be allowed. I have no problem with it...I just mentioned it to see if you would be allowed to specify which armor IM wears. Like I said, I have no problem if you do, but it is for Evangel to decide.

-DM

long pig
I meant Thor buster.

Whats your thoughts on Champ of Universe w/o gem?

K Von Doom
So if someone picks picks regular Ironman, can Thorbuster or Hulkbuster Ironman be picked by someone else?

long pig
I wont use his other powers, just his skill

DigiMark007
I don't know enough to say for sure about Champ. From what I've heard he's always written bad and doesn't have a ton except great fighting skills and some power cosmic (which most if not all of the heralds have, so that's not a big deal). He's an Eternal (right?) so some people might object, but I wouldn't put him above Surfer (or a lot of other herald-level people), as long as he doesn't have the gem.

So I'm fine with Champion. I would still strongly object to Cyttorak, but Champ is cool.

-DM

long pig
Originally posted by K Von Doom
So if someone picks picks regular Ironman, can Thorbuster or Hulkbuster Ironman be picked by someone else?
No i dont think so "one of each character" is what evange said.

Loki is above herald but i dont mind....i want cyttorak

long pig
if i cant have cyber, ill take Champ w/o gem....just for his added strength and skill and light speed..

Quick Freeze
cyber just has hallucenagenic poison on his retractable finger claws, not all over his body

DigiMark007
Originally posted by K Von Doom
So if someone picks picks regular Ironman, can Thorbuster or Hulkbuster Ironman be picked by someone else?

Not sure. There's stuff like that about the rules in the initial thread Evangel made to sign up for the tourney (or maybe it was for round 1 of the draft). So you'd either have to find the thread, or ask Evangel.

But I got my picks, and if more than one person wants IM I'd be fine with it, so I'm not too worried about it. And my personal opinion is that ThorBuster armor has been in enough comics and is widely enough known that it should be allowed. Besides, IM made it to hang with Thor...I don't think he ever actually beat him in it, so it's still well within the power limits.

-DM

long pig
is DR strange can scare off Cyttorak in his own world, how is Cyt above herald.

The only reason Odin was upset Cyttorak was free is because Cyttorak is insane and will kill anything he can. but not because he isnt more powerful than odin or loki or Thor.

I want cyttorak for his spells.

DigiMark007
Who said you can't have Cyber??

long pig
cyber has and can rub the poison on his body. making anyone who touches him hullucinate.

long pig
no one said i cant have him, just clearing things up.

I'd rather have Cyttorak or Champ w/o gem than cyber.

K Von Doom
Originally posted by long pig
Loki is above herald

I agree!! LOL eek! Take that Digimark!!

kidding

DigiMark007
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cyttor.htm

Here's a bio on Cyttorak. He gave Juggernaut his powers! And that's only a fraction of Cyttorak's powers. He also fashioned stuff for Strange at one point...so Strange definitely isn't on the same level as him (even though Strange is obviously quite powerful)

And Loki isn't above herald....at least I don't think so. Thor has thwarted and/or beat him multiple times, and he's one heckuva sorcerer, but not above herald level.

-DM

long pig
Fine so its
Champ w/o gem/strange/IM Thorbuster.?

Champ without gem is just a great fighter who is strong.

Eveng should agree to that.

DigiMark007
This is all kind of a moot point since we don't ban people or allow them, Evangel does. I'd be fine with Champion without the gem, but you know my stance on Cyttorak. Bedtime...*yawn*

-DM

long pig
you are meaning Marvels Loki right?

DigiMark007
yeah...Marvel Loki. Bio for him is back on page 1...

long pig
can more than one version of Flash be allowed?

long pig
If so i'll change thorbuster to FlashII

DigiMark007
Apparently, yes. Scoob has Wally and SS has Impulse/Kid Flash (forget his name). So that appears to be ok. Pretty soon this'll just be a "who can come up with the best Flash theories and simultaneously shoot down their opponents plans" tourney.

-DM

long pig
FLash2 http://www.dcuguide.com/profile.php?name=flash2

Champ w/o gem http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php
W/o gem he isnt nearly as strong or powerful as with it.

Ive already gave you the Strange profile.

long pig
Flash2 http://www.dcuguide.com/profile.php?name=flash2

Totally different than the other flashes. His names Barry. not wally or kid flash.

K Von Doom
Yep, allow all the Flashs in and pit them against each other so they cancel out. eek!

long pig
All i want now is Champ w/o gem. Witch basically makes him The Hulk but a better fighter.

K Von Doom
I just noticed Scoob's and Scarlet's first two pics make exactly the same guy! LOL eek!

long pig
Flash's ability to tap into speed force, Champs body and Dr stranges mind.

So the character will look like champ, but able to tap into speedforce but be smarter than champ due to stranges intelligence and magic.

long pig
K lol they did.
lol

Khellendros
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I just noticed Scoob's and Scarlet's first two pics make exactly the same guy! LOL eek!
Yeah... Scoob got the better Flash and "green lantern", but Scarlet got the matter manipulator. That should be an interesting fight.

long pig
if i cant have chanp (which i WANT!) ill change him for mangog.
I WANT CHAMP tho.

long pig
has he-man been taken?

long pig
can me and lets say...storm band together?

Nataku8188
Stop multi-posting. He-man is too strong, he's got infinite strength.

long pig
Sorry nat about the multi posting, guess your just gonna have to deal huh? so sorry. DEAL

Who says his too strong?

Maestro
how come no one has picked count nefaria?

long pig
cuz he sucks really.
Champ without gem is just a good fighter nothing more, he should be allowed.

Evangel94
Originally posted by long pig
can i have cyttorak, he is below herald...beloe skyfather.

He is not below . He's skyfather. There's no arguing that.

Come on people, I understand you guys wanting to pick strong teams, but that's a little much.

Evangel94
Originally posted by long pig
ok ok ok cybers adamantium covers IM Asgaurdian buster armor(which by way of Cyber is covered with poison that if you touch me you start to hallucinate) with Dr strange's magic

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php

IM
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=349

I still want cyttorak evang, can i have him.
He is Thor Level.

IronMan's thorbuster armor is above herald level. Being able to throw down with King Thor for 3 issues is a little too much.

Evangel94
Originally posted by long pig
can me and lets say...storm band together?

No

long pig
its ok, so champ w/o gem dr strange and flash2 is allowed. Thanks Evang.

You're very very non biased, harsh on everyone. I appreciate that!

long pig
ONE more Question. Can i HAve He-Man???
He isnt above herald, i doubt hes on par with herald, im just a heman fan

Evangel94
Originally posted by long pig
ONE more Question. Can i HAve He-Man???
He isnt above herald, i doubt hes on par with herald, im just a heman fan

I'd prefer if you picked more comic related characters associated with Marvel, DC, etc

gautam
i pick gladiator

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gladiatorii.htm

DigiMark007
I'd complain like a whiny school-girl if you got He-man. His strength is infinite. It's like giving someone their gem...combined with some solid defense/speed characters, it would be too powerful.

-DM

Quick Freeze
long pig, you realize that Barry is about superman's speed, right? he's nowhere near wally or bart and is no where close to understanding the speed force like wally does, right? you can probably find someone faster, like Nova for instane, she was a herald.

DigiMark007
QF, man, let him choose who he wants... wink

-DM

DigiMark007
Besides, Superman is close to any of the Flash's in speed. They're basically at light-speed. Any Superman type is near-lightspeed. Some are even faster (at least for traveling...not necessarily in reflexes and such).

-DM

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I don't know enough to say for sure about Champ. From what I've heard he's always written bad and doesn't have a ton except great fighting skills and some power cosmic (which most if not all of the heralds have, so that's not a big deal). He's an Eternal (right?) so some people might object, but I wouldn't put him above Surfer (or a lot of other herald-level people), as long as he doesn't have the gem.

So I'm fine with Champion. I would still strongly object to Cyttorak, but Champ is cool.

-DM

Champions "Power Primordial" kicks the balls of Surfers "Power Cosmic"..... he's beyond herald

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
ThorBuster armor..........
.........IM made it to hang with Thor...I don't think he ever actually beat him in it

he made it to "hang" with King Thor..... and he hurt him with it..... it's powered by Asgardian magics and may be OTT here...... plus it was only used once then trashed....... it'd be like picking 8th Day Juggs..... which was banned earlier

Scoobless
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Yep, allow all the Flashs in and pit them against each other so they cancel out. eek!

i wouldn't say that.......... Barry was nowhere near as fast as Impulse or Wally-Flash..... he didn't have any knowledge of the "speed force" and wasn't close to light speed

Scoobless
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I just noticed Scoob's and Scarlet's first two pics make exactly the same guy! LOL eek!

i also noticed the similarities.... big grin ..... i thought he may even take BRB after i took Thor..... lol

i think there are some significant differences between Kyle/Lantern and Quasar

Originally posted by long pig
if i cant have chanp (which i WANT!) ill change him for mangog.
I WANT CHAMP tho.

mangog is way above herald level in terms of strength


sorry for the multiple posting...... just playing a little catch up with the progress here

stormfront13
evang you answered everyone else's questions but not kine. why can't i have nimrod?? he is under herald level. he fits all the rules. amd to be truly honest you are a little bit biased. you have a problem with all my characters. i can't have certain characters and you don't have a reason for that. and you got pissed for me chagning my opick mid0draft where others have done that and you don't seem to care

ScarletSpider
I beg to differ. Wally and Bart are the exact same for powers, aside from Bart's photographic memory. I chose Rayner so he has the unlimited energy and yellow immunity. Though the issue of having to train your willpower to it may become tiresome, and I think I'll try to switch him for someone else.

Scoobless
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
I beg to differ. Wally and Bart are the exact same for powers

Flash has more experience..... and has a cooler costume

stick out tongue

Nataku8188
Evangel, you never answered SF or my questions. Mine was pertaining to Psylocke, would her psychic knife be allowed?

To longpig- Multiple posting is a reportable offense.

DigiMark007
So it's the power primordial that Chamipon has...not power cosmic. That probably changes things, but I'll let the more knowledgable types take over from here (don't know enough about power primordial, but Scoob seems to think it's well beyond cosmic and/or herald level).

And stormfront...like I said before, I think it has something to do with Nimrod's ability to adapt on the fly and change/improve his technology. His Marvel bio explicitly says he can modify his technology to improve himself (too lazy to post the link, but it's from Marvel Directory).

-DM

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
(don't know enough about power primordial, but Scoob seems to think it's well beyond cosmic and/or herald level).

i may be wrong about that...... i'm looking up sites now for more info

but the power primordial is what champion, Grandmaster and all the other "Elders" use

EDIT:

"He cannot be hurt by any means short of molecular dispersion"

that alone has to be enough to put him out of this

http://comicscentral.tripod.com/marvelheroes/c/champion_of_the_universe.htm

DigiMark007
Well I think at the least it makes Champ a suspect pick...something Evangel should look at and think about...

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/print.php?entryID=158

Here's a link to him (I forgot to look at teh one longpig gave for him). It says that the power primordial is responsible for his strength and relative invulnerability, but that he can't project energy blasts of primordial energy. He also, apparently, taps into the power cosmic as well. But all in all, he still looks like a roughly 100-Class brawler who has great fighting skills and is relatively tough to take down (no more so than many of our other Superman-types). He seems like a solid pick to me, one that probably flirts with herald level, but I still don't think he'd beat Surfer (from what I read in the bio).

-DM

P.S. ...hmmm, missed the molecular dispersion part. I'd be inclined to change my opinion after seeing that.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
P.S. ...hmmm, missed the molecular dispersion part. I'd be inclined to change my opinion after seeing that.

yeah......... this time i'll post it in bold

He cannot be hurt by any means short of molecular dispersion

as we are banned from using matter manipulation on our opponents, i'd suggest a character who can only be hurt by matter dispersion be disallowed

no offence to whoever it is that is trying to pick him

sad

K Von Doom
Sufficient cosmic energy would disperse his molecules eek! Maybe.

Scoobless
"maybe" is right.......... if Destroyer isn't allowed for being almost indestructible then Champion shouldn't be either

Khellendros
No one else remembers the Champion of the universe? The guy who, in his first appearance in comics, came to earth and beat the hell out of every heavy hitter, including Hulk, without effort? The only reason he didn't blow up the world was because Ben Grimm wouldn't give up. He couldn't even hurt the Champion, but no matter how badly he got beaten he kept trying to get up. This guy draws on the energy that created the universe. He is way freaking above Herald level. Seriously, guys, stop trying to slip these beasts past and just pick characters who fit in the guidelines, this is taking too long.

stormfront13
yes digi i know he can do that. but he doesn't do it automatically. its just one of his many powers. if we are not allowed to use characters that can use the powers that evang mentioned were not to be used then a lot of people will have to change their picks

Scoobless
the characters picked who can perform certain feats .... ie. Silver Surfer with his matter manipulation, aren't allowed to use those powers

there are hundreds of powerful characters in Marvel and DC.... just pick another one.... Nimrod isn't that great anyway

stormfront13
i don't much care about getting nimrod anymore but i still want a straight answer from evang why i can't have him. she hasn'y givenme one even thogh i have asked about 5 times

Scoobless
Evangel doesn't seem to be online as much as some of us..... maybe she hasn't got your message yet..... i doubt she's ignoring you

stormfront13
no i've asked her here./ she had time to answer everyone else's questiuon but failed to mention mine which i asked her numerous times

Khellendros
Storm, while you're waiting on an answer to your question about Nimrod, why don't you just pick your new third and lets get this thing moving?

stormfront13
why?? i got time- she might not close it soon seeing as day 2 was open for like 2 or three days

Scoobless
i've just looked over your picks... Bloodstorm and Iceman..... (at least that's what's posted on page one)

maybe you should take a more powerful third ........ or you're gonna get walked over

stormfront13
no its supposed to be

bloodstorm-very powerful vampire, third to dr.strange in magic, and has better weather powers than thor

nimrod-well all know about him

and zatanna- we all know about her

DigiMark007
Worry about your own picks Scoob... smile

I agree though, quite a few could be taken besides Nimrod that would be more than adequate, and you have three already so I think only Nataku is left (unless he has Psylocke for sure).

Given the vehement protests against Champion, I'll have to throw my vote in against him. Sorry longpig, but we have to be fair, and apparently he's well beyond herald.

-DM

Scoobless
i don't think Zatanna will or should be allowed as she can do anything..... i never liked her power and you could easily argue that it puts her near Skyfather in terms of magic...... maybe further if you take her power to it's full extent...... there's nothing to stop her saying "i won emoceb elbitcurtsedni".... then PRESTO... she's unkillable

i'm voting against her inclusion

stormfront13
but she has to think about the spell to do it. therefore it limits her in time. her power may be considered aove herald but she is not seeing as she never explores it very well

Scoobless
but if you give her another mystic (Bloodstorm) and someone with a computer brain (Nimrod) then it's a different story...... like what everyone said when i tried to pick Drax..... he's powerful but isn't smart enough to realise just how powerful he is..... but with the Flash controlling his power he's almost unbeatable.... unlimited strength with almost unlimited speed

Zatanna has unlimited magic...... her powers should eliminate her as a viable option

DigiMark007
She can do that!?!?

Has she ever done anything that powerful? Honestly, I still don't think I would be worried, but this whole completely unkillable thing certainly would maek things different.

-DM

Scoobless
she may not have done it but her powers are to be able to accomplish ANYTHING that she says backwards...... she could make Galactus her b!tch...... in theory

with Nimrod's brain behind that magic there is no way she should be allowed

Sentry
We can change characters after the draft right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I have and obscure character!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

DigiMark007
...team ain't bad now Sentry, but feel free...I'm pretty sure Evangel said she would give us that option. I got my Authority fix with Apollo (in the Doctor's absence sad ) and sometimes obscure characters kick ass (other times they don't, like Quick Freeze's brief failed experiment involving the Fallen One).

-DM

P.S. stormfront might be able to form some kind of truce with Zatanna like she did with Iceman (agreeing that she couldn't have him freeze blood), but I'm not sure exactly what that truce would be.

Scoobless
We can change characters after the draft right?

i don't think the draft is ever going to end at this rate

sad

DigiMark007
Hell, I don't mind. All this posturing for good teams, fighting off the picks of other participants, and considering different strategies is kinda fun. It'll get old eventually, but I'm not leaving town for any length of time for about a month or so (and only for a few days), and I'm relatively confident we'll at least be near the end by that point if not completely done.

-DM

Evangel94
Originally posted by long pig
FLash2 http://www.dcuguide.com/profile.php?name=flash2

Champ w/o gem http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php
W/o gem he isnt nearly as strong or powerful as with it.

Ive already gave you the Strange profile.

I don't have a problem with the Flash.

Champion is above herald level. Please re-select.

-Evangel smile

stormfront13
well nimrod might niot be allowed asnd ev never said that zatanna couldn't be allowed besides all the rules about powers that wouldn't be allowed then that limits her some more. besides i might not get nimrod and i'm considering someone else other than him if she'll let me switch

Evangel94
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Evangel, you never answered SF or my questions. Mine was pertaining to Psylocke, would her psychic knife be allowed?

To longpig- Multiple posting is a reportable offense.

If you have a specific question please PM me and ill send you a reply. You will a get a response much faster.

Psylocke and her psychic knife are ok.

Evangel94
Originally posted by stormfront13
no i've asked her here./ she had time to answer everyone else's questiuon but failed to mention mine which i asked her numerous times

Nimrod have nigh-high super regenerative capabilities and the ability to adapt and evolve to beat an opponent. That makes it unfair towards the other participants character choices. I hope you understand I'm not biased and I'm fair towards all participants.

Evangel

stormfront13
i know but what i'm, saying is that he doesn't have to adapt to others abilities he can do it if he wants. but it doesn't matter anywy i got another character in mind instead of nimrod.

ScarletSpider
Edit: Messed up and posted in the wrong thread. It's been a long day.

stormfront13
alright instead of nimrod i am gonna have binary!!

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/search.php


i think that link should work. and this will make my team bloodstorm, binary, and zatanna

Nataku8188
third pick;
Psylocke
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=549

ScarletSpider
stormfront, your link was incomplete, but here is Binary's entry: http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=90

stormfront13
^^^^^ people please use that link for binary. for some reason i can't get them to work. and ts only that site lol. but thanks again.

Scoobless
i still think Zatanna could be a problem...... Evangel hasn't commented yet

stormfront13
i pm'd her and told her my team and that i was switching nimrod for biary and she said that it was ok

Scoobless
then what are Zatanna's limitations?

stormfront13
not sure but she can be taken out she has to concentrate to say the spell. it only takes like a second but she has to think about what she wants

Scoobless
i know she can be taken out..... i mean what are the limitations once she speaks?..... can she turn the solar system into a horse?

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