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Who of this guys will survive a throw into the sun?

Juggernaut
Savage Hulk
Thor
Hercules
Abomination
Gladiator
Thing
Asgardian Destroyer

Juggernaut
Savage Hulk
Thor
Hercules
Gladiator
Asgardian Destroyer

Savage Hulk? Are you sure? I really don't think so. I'm not so sure Thor, Hercules, or Gladiator could either. These guys would have to be able to survive temperatures far higher than that of a nuclear weapon.

Only if they're wearing SPF 40,000

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Savage Hulk? Are you sure? I really don't think so. I'm not so sure Thor, Hercules, or Gladiator could either. These guys would have to be able to survive temperatures far higher than that of a nuclear weapon.

Hulk has withstood heats hotter than a star. Thor could protect himself using magic. Gladiator flies through stars regularly.

I mean, it's just a star.

And Herc?

Magic... maybe... probably... most likely...

thing gets roasted in seconds

my list is shorter than most

Juggernaut
Asgardian destroyer

and POSSIBLY gladiator...

That's what my list would have looked like.

asgardian destroyer
juggernaut
gladiator maybe

when has hulk withstood temperatures hotter than the sun?

wow only Juggernaut and Destroyer would be able to handle that with out even gettinga tan i bet.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Savage Hulk? Are you sure? I really don't think so. I'm not so sure Thor, Hercules, or Gladiator could either. These guys would have to be able to survive temperatures far higher than that of a nuclear weapon.
ow did Hercules and Thor do so well against Firelord?

I was asking dwill.

Erm...

Hulk has survived a Nuke blast right?

They usually come in at around 60-100million degrees.

Scientists reckon that the core of the sun is only about fifteen million.

So by that reckoning, Hulk could survive in the sun no problem.

JP probably could, his bio electrical shit force field could protect him

knock off the JP talk, please

people talk about about asian hulk and others all the time...you dont say anything to them......

You got told......Haha

Originally posted by Maestro
You got told......Haha

bite me

none of them can

The Asgardian Destroyer and Juggernaut. Gladiator could fly away once he hit the sun. I don't think Thor's skin is tough enough. Hulk, Herc... have no means of getting off the sun... the initial heat wont kill them right away but prolonged exposure to high temperatures will cook them.

None of them can. I agree JRW. I doubt Glads invulnerability is enough to keep him alive long enough to make use of his flight capabilities. Everyone else is dead. Also hulk survivng a nuclear blast is no comparison to being thrown into the sun. Come on!! lol. After the blast is over he could potentially reform like Maestro did, however wasnt maestro only able to do that because it was a gamma bomb? Once these guys get there they aint coming back

:bites colossus17:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
None of them can. I agree JRW. I doubt Glads invulnerability is enough to keep him alive long enough to make use of his flight capabilities. Everyone else is dead. Also hulk survivng a nuclear blast is no comparison to being thrown into the sun. Come on!! lol. After the blast is over he could potentially reform like Maestro did, however wasnt maestro only able to do that because it was a gamma bomb? Once these guys get there they aint coming back
SS went through the sun like it was nothing.

Gladitior claims he can rip stars am sure he can survive on a star.

Jplatinum could...ok thats the last one, I'm serious this time.

Not sure how confidence, hence how powerful, Gladiator would be if he's being "thrown" into the sun.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
None of them can. I agree JRW. I doubt Glads invulnerability is enough to keep him alive long enough to make use of his flight capabilities. Everyone else is dead. Also hulk survivng a nuclear blast is no comparison to being thrown into the sun. Come on!! lol. After the blast is over he could potentially reform like Maestro did, however wasnt maestro only able to do that because it was a gamma bomb? Once these guys get there they aint coming back

The Sun is a huge Hydrogen Bomb.

Savage Hulk has withstood greater heats.

A Gamma bomb would actually be hotter than a star.

SS is a power cosmic wielder and he was made by galactus to be able to withstand such things. SS is aalso not in debate here. Yeah Galdiator claims to be able to such things, but it has not been shown in the comics that he can do so. Thats the difference. FDor all we know that was just bravado. Remember his powers are speculated to be psionic based so he could have said that just to amp himself up. I havent seen a strength or durability feat of glads that Savage hulk or juggernaut could not match and both of them would get scorched

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Sun is a huge Hydrogen Bomb.
Savage Hulk has withstood greater heats.
A Gamma bomb would actually be hotter than a star.

But a hydrogen bomb explodes just once, giving the Hulk a chance to recover afterwards. And even if that one bomb just caused a scratch, being in the sun is like being continuously bombarded with said bombs, and they would eventually take their toll.

"The Sun is a huge Hydrogen Bomb.

Savage Hulk has withstood greater heats.

A Gamma bomb would actually be hotter than a star."

My point was that a gamma bomb isnt continuous so yes after the initial blast hulk understandably could reform, however if he got thrown into a star he wouldnt be able to escape and the energy bombardment would be continuous, therefore not giving his healing factor a chance

U beat me to it!!!

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Erm...

Hulk has survived a Nuke blast right?

They usually come in at around 60-100million degrees.

Scientists reckon that the core of the sun is only about fifteen million.

So by that reckoning, Hulk could survive in the sun no problem.

Core of the sun is the coolest part of the sun. All the heat is generated on the surface.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
But a hydrogen bomb explodes just once, giving the Hulk a chance to recover afterwards. And even if that one bomb just caused a scratch, being in the sun is like being continuously bombarded with said bombs, and they would eventually take their toll.

Good point.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Core of the sun is the coolest part of the sun. All the heat is generated on the surface.

Incorrect.

5800 K (Sun's surface)
15,600,000 K (Sun's core)

the surface of the sun is only 5,800?? storm can generate more heat than that. is that the corect temp??

5,800 Kelvin, not Fahrenheit.

oh lol didn't see that

do you know the equilivent to that in fahrenheit??

Gladiator, Destroyer and Savage Hulk could probably survive initially being thrown in, but Gladiator would be the only one able to escape the sun's gravity. So, eventually, Hulk would get consumed and Destroyer would rpbably just sit there for God knows how long unable to escape. And for those doubting Gladiator can survive in the sun, he's gone swimming in a star before.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Gladiator, Destroyer, Juggernaut and Savage Hulk could probably survive initially being thrown in, but Gladiator would be the only one able to escape the sun's gravity. So, eventually, Hulk would get consumed and Destroyer and Juggs would probably just sit there for God knows how long unable to escape. And for those doubting Gladiator can survive in the sun, he's gone swimming in a star before.

i don't think i did it right but if the formula you gave me is right then it should be around 3,338.0608 farhenheit. that doesn't sound right to me. but if it is correct then storm can generate more heat than the surface of the sun which sounds a bit weird

ok i just sw your answer and i'll believe it. still seems a bit low cause storm can still generate more heat

Theres an error somewhere.

Here's a link to a calculator.

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver14.htm#kf2

Originally posted by stormfront13
ok i just sw your answer and i'll believe it. still seems a bit low cause storm can still generate more heat
Lightning lasts a fraction of a shread of a split second. The sun can keep that heat going for at least 4 seconds.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
The sun can keep that heat going for at least 4 seconds. Maybe even a couple billion years. Who knows?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Maybe even a couple billion years. Who knows?
No, 8 seconds at the most. If it has a good vibe going.

lmao

the only 3 that could are Juggernaut, Gladiator, and the Asgardian Destroyer.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
No, 8 seconds at the most. If it has a good vibe going.

The heat of the sun is caused my the fusion of Hydrogen Nuclei to make Helium, elements 1 and 2 on tthe periodic table respectively. It take around a thousand years for core heat to reach the surface the sun is vast.

It says the hulks skin can withstand temperatures of 3000 degrees f without blistering, anything more than that and he is in serious trouble. Hulk can hold his breath underwater and in space for an hour, after that he is done, so i doubt he can survive it.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Sun is a huge Hydrogen Bomb.

Savage Hulk has withstood greater heats.

A Gamma bomb would actually be hotter than a star.

No its not it fuses Hydrogen nuclei, It has nothing to do with how an H bomb works.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Good point.



Incorrect.

5800 K (Sun's surface)
15,600,000 K (Sun's core)

true. However, the corona just outside the surface is pretty hot- 1-3 million K's.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
The heat of the sun is caused my the fusion of Hydrogen Nuclei to make Helium, elements 1 and 2 on tthe periodic table respectively. It take around a thousand years for core heat to reach the surface the sun is vast.
I was joking... I know stars burn for billions of years.

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
true. However, the corona just outside the surface is pretty hot- 1-3 million K's.

nice

Juggernaut cant be harmed physically so he would survive, so would the asgardian destroyer, i dont know about chessiator but he might be able 2 as well


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Gladiator can along with Juggernaut Thor probably that Asgardian Destroyer.

Everyone in that list could probly.

Juggernaut Thor with a magic spell and Gladiator.

Destroyer only. It was built to fight the Celestials. Nuff said there.

None of the others could survive that kind of environment, with possable exceptions if Thor uses Mjolnir to absorb the energy in his vicinity (Sunspots anyone?), or if Gladiator's trash-talk ever turns out to be more than hyperbole (which I doubt).

Juggy's not completely invulnerable, just inexorable. If Shatterstar could draw his blood, the Sun will unmake him.
The Hulk has survived brief exposure to the energy released by a very small amount of fusile matter, and the concussion+plasma storm that followed. I don't even know how many zeroes it would take to express a ratio of the amount of energy released within the Sun to that of a single H-Bomb. Many.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Destroyer only. It was built to fight the Celestials. Nuff said there.

None of the others could survive that kind of environment, with possable exceptions if Thor uses Mjolnir to absorb the energy in his vicinity (Sunspots anyone?), or if Gladiator's trash-talk ever turns out to be more than hyperbole (which I doubt).

Juggy's not completely invulnerable, just inexorable. If Shatterstar could draw his blood, the Sun will unmake him.
The Hulk has survived brief exposure to the energy released by a very small amount of fusile matter, and the concussion+plasma storm that followed. I don't even know how many zeroes it would take to express a ratio of the amount of energy released within the Sun to that of a single H-Bomb. Many.
Gladiator went through stars before.

Have we ever actually seen him do it? I'm not trying to be flippant, I'm honestly asking. He spouts that kind of stuff a lot, but I've never seen a story where he actually did anything on that scale. Of course I haven't read even half of G's appearances, thus my question. Does anyone know?

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Have we ever actually seen him do it? I'm not trying to be flippant, I'm honestly asking. He spouts that kind of stuff a lot, but I've never seen a story where he actually did anything on that scale. Of course I haven't read even half of G's appearances, thus my question. Does anyone know?
Yes he has I have seen it with my eyes

lots of people don't know what he is capable of

And remember they have to survive the trip into the sun as well, no air, cold temperature and the change over from the cold of space to the heat of the sun.

Juggy's been stripped of his flesh down to the bones and survived... Though since I doubt he could get out, would the sun destroy his bones too? And if it does, would he survive that?

Only Juggernaut and Destroyer could servive in the sun and if its true what they say about Hulk then He would to Juggernaut can servive a direct hit from the Odin Force with out a scratch also has servived being skinned alive also has servived a blast that could destroy planets small ones but still it didnt even slow Him down and Destroyer well Destroyer is made of metal thats like adimantium for Asgard i dont know how hot a super nova is but i know that not even super nova heat can melt Adimantium, pure Adimantium i mean of course.

The Destroyer is made of Uru, the same stuff from witch Mjolnir was forged, and Thor's occasional blue scale-mail as well. In his confronatation with the Midgaurd Serpent, the deathblow he dealt to Jormungandr war so great that Thor's own body was liquified (he did not die due to being under a curse from Hela) from the force of the impact.

His armor was fine.

The battleground was the same mountains where Odin had faced the Celestials and lost. The remains of the Destroyer lay not far away, melted to slag when Odins essence was blasted out of it. Thor projected his spirit into it, restoring it, and went off to show Hela what vengence was really about!

Jug and the Destroyer.

Jug wouldn't even care he was there, he'd just walk forward out of it, and if somehow that didn't work(i don't see why it wouldn't), he'd sit there until the sun died in a few billion years. Then walk out.

The armor would sit there and not be harmed.

Jugg, Destroyer, and Glad--if he's confident enough

Thor could possibly use Mjolnir to protect him--but I doubt he could do it for long.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH crispy fried thing anyone

Juggernaut could certainly survive it. Savage Hulk could, if he can stay angry long enough. I doubt Thing could, but he did get his powers from cosmic radiation. Who knows? I don't think Thor would have a big problem dealing with the heat, and if he did, he could protect himself using Mjolnir. I don't know much about Hercule's durability, so I won't comment. Abomination is toast. Gladiator does this regularly.

Only the flying guys would be able to escape it's gravity and actually leave the sun. Anyone else is screwed, and will be confined to the star indefinitely, or until their death.

Couldn't jug's use his forward momentum power to walk out of it?

Originally posted by long pig
Couldn't jug's use his forward momentum power to walk out of it?

Maybe. Juggernaut has walked in mid-air before. The interior of the sun is much more dense than air. If nothing stops him, I suppose he could walk out of it. Or he could just sit back, and relax for a few eons.

maybe the Hulk, but Thor for sure because he is basically a god.

Juggernaut would survive because he doesn't need food or air and has his impenetrable field. Gladiator says he can rip stars in half so according to him he can survive. The only way I see him having a problem would be if the gravity from the sun was too strong for him to fly away from which I don't think would be a problem. The Destroyer would definitely survive since it's made of near indestructible enchanted metal and doesn't need food or water. I can't see Thor surviving, because as far as I know he doesn't have any way to shield himself from the heat. Maybe he would get by if he uses mjonlir to teleport out. Flying out isn't a option for him because he hasn't got the lung capacity of Gladiator. Hulk can hold his breath for about an hour if I remember correctly... I don't see what good that will do if the sun is burning his body away faster than he can regenerate though. The Abomination, Hercules,and Thing definitely won't live. I still say Thor wouldn't make it, but it is slightly possible he would survive.

I'm not sury Juggy would be able to walk out of it... Isnt the description of that power something like "once in motion he cannot be stopped"? or something to that effect? If thats the case he lives there until the end of time cuz he won't be ably to go anywhere. Maybe if he farts alot he can get some momentum going by the gas pushing him forward.... I dunno

Originally posted by Vegetto
Juggernaut would survive because he doesn't need food or air and has his impenetrable field. Gladiator says he can rip stars in half so according to him he can survive. The only way I see him having a problem would be if the gravity from the sun was too strong for him to fly away from which I don't think would be a problem. The Destroyer would definitely survive since it's made of near indestructible enchanted metal and doesn't need food or water. I can't see Thor surviving, because as far as I know he doesn't have any way to shield himself from the heat. Maybe he would get by if he uses mjonlir to teleport out. Flying out isn't a option for him because he hasn't got the lung capacity of Gladiator. Hulk can hold his breath for about an hour if I remember correctly... I don't see what good that will do if the sun is burning his body away faster than he can regenerate though. The Abomination, Hercules,and Thing definitely won't live. I still say Thor wouldn't make it, but it is slightly possible he would survive.

I'm not sury Juggy would be able to walk out of it... Isnt the description of that power something like "once in motion he cannot be stopped"? or something to that effect? If thats the case he lives there until the end of time cuz he won't be ably to go anywhere. Maybe if he farts alot he can get some momentum going by the gas pushing him forward.... I dunno
Gladiator has gone though stars and has shattered planets with one punch (not just his words, he has done this

Originally posted by Vegetto
Juggernaut would survive because he doesn't need food or air and has his impenetrable field. Gladiator says he can rip stars in half so according to him he can survive. The only way I see him having a problem would be if the gravity from the sun was too strong for him to fly away from which I don't think would be a problem. The Destroyer would definitely survive since it's made of near indestructible enchanted metal and doesn't need food or water. I can't see Thor surviving, because as far as I know he doesn't have any way to shield himself from the heat. Maybe he would get by if he uses mjonlir to teleport out. Flying out isn't a option for him because he hasn't got the lung capacity of Gladiator. Hulk can hold his breath for about an hour if I remember correctly... I don't see what good that will do if the sun is burning his body away faster than he can regenerate though. The Abomination, Hercules,and Thing definitely won't live. I still say Thor wouldn't make it, but it is slightly possible he would survive.

I'm not sury Juggy would be able to walk out of it... Isnt the description of that power something like "once in motion he cannot be stopped"? or something to that effect? If thats the case he lives there until the end of time cuz he won't be ably to go anywhere. Maybe if he farts alot he can get some momentum going by the gas pushing him forward.... I dunno

Hulk can hold his breath for an indefinite length of time. He could survive the heat and gravity of being in the sun, but he would eventually subcumb to it.

Thor could protect himeslf with a magical field via Mjolnir.

Gladiator flies through the sun all the time.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if Hulk even needs to breathe. The only purpose for respiration is cellular maintenance. Hulk regenerates his cells at an insane rate.

Is that some sort of Hulk upgrade now? Not needing to breathe? Since when? Last time I remember, Hulk could only hold his breath for a long time, and Abomination could hold his longer because of him having a more sea-like stature.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Is that some sort of Hulk upgrade now? Not needing to breathe? Since when? Last time I remember, Hulk could only hold his breath for a long time, and Abomination could hold his longer because of him having a more sea-like stature.

Hulk has had crazy upgrades. Marvel is trying to make him un-killable. His regeneration is insane. He regenerated from cells in The End. I hope they don't ruin the character.

Geez. But he does still need to breathe though right.

I thought he could only hold his breath for long periods of time. Correct me if im wrong?

Here's Hulk, fighting in the vaccum of space. It doesn't look like he needs to breathe.

That isnt just him holding his breath for a long time?

Same as when he fought Namor underwater. He just held his breath.

Originally posted by jrodslam
That isnt just him holding his breath for a long time?

Same as when he fought Namor underwater. He just held his breath.

Actually, he was talking the entire time. It would make sense that he doesn't need to breathe, though. If his regeneration can reform him from cells, why couldn't it replace cells killed by oxygen deprivation? Oxygen deprived cells die slowly. He could replace them just as quickly as they die. We don't even know if Hulk's cells need oxygen.

In Defenders Vol.1 #54, Hulk says - "Fish-Men help friends that got hurt! Fish-Men can breathe in water--Not like Hulk and others from above!"

And Defenders Vol.2 #7, Hellcat says - "You do not have to hold your breath Hulk--Doc whomped up a breathing spell. See, we're just fine!"

Originally posted by jrodslam
In Defenders Vol.1 #54, Hulk says - "Fish-Men help friends that got hurt! Fish-Men can breathe in water--Not like Hulk and others from above!"

And Defenders Vol.2 #7, Hellcat says - "You do not have to hold your breath Hulk--Doc whomped up a breathing spell. See, we're just fine!"

You're right. That is an inconsistancy. However, Hulk is shown in comics that don't involve Strange, not breathing, while talking, in space. It's understandable that Hulk would be able to live without breathing.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You're right. That is an inconsistancy. However, Hulk is shown in comics that don't involve Strange, not breathing, while talking, in space. It's understandable that Hulk would be able to live without breathing.

Inconsistancy it is indeed.

In the scan I posted, Hulk suggests that he could drift forever in space, not die of suffocation. It is inconsistent to his appearances in the Defenders, but Hulk not needing to breathe is understandable. Everything the Hulk consists of is drawn from an extra-dimensional source, including his additional mass. The source of Hulk's power is infinite, so any damage done by oxygen deprivation would be easily repaired. It isn't that far fetched.

If Hulk was to die of suffocation, wouldnt his body drift in space forever?

Originally posted by jrodslam
If Hulk was to die of suffocation, wouldnt his body drift in space forever?

No. He would revert to Bruce Banner, his body would decay, and become dust. That is, IF he can die of suffocation.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That is, IF he can die of suffocation.


Who knows, but I think he can. Ive never heard of Hulk not needing to breathe. Underwater or space.

Only time ive heard of him being able to breathe in water, was when he was blue. But that didnt last to long.

Moving...

Originally posted by jrodslam
Who knows, but I think he can. Ive never heard of Hulk not needing to breathe. Underwater or space.

Only time ive heard of him being able to breathe in water, was when he was blue. But that didnt last to long.

It's a definite possibility, though. Oxygen is only needed for cellular maintainence. Hulk's regeneration does that for him. Cells that die due to a lack of oxygen could be immediately replaced by new, healthy cells.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
None of them can. I agree JRW. I doubt Glads invulnerability is enough to keep him alive long enough to make use of his flight capabilities. Everyone else is dead. Also hulk survivng a nuclear blast is no comparison to being thrown into the sun. Come on!! lol. After the blast is over he could potentially reform like Maestro did, however wasnt maestro only able to do that because it was a gamma bomb? Once these guys get there they aint coming back
glads can

THEY ALL DIE!!!


just how did they get to the center of the sun exactly? teleportation. because even being driven into the sun not even halfway would they make it to the center anyhow. do you guy have any IDEAL how big the sun is???? IT'S HUGE, you think hulk with his 3 mille jumping ability even has a chance NO. juggernaut magic or whateve wont survive .

btw just to get my point across here is the size comparison of the sun to earth. here

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970518a.html
and here:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/jgifs/Jupiterearthsun.GIF

that' right the sun is.. better yet a direct quote " The volume of the Sun is 1,299,400 times bigger than the volume of the Earth; about 1,300,000 Earths could fit inside the Sun ".

in conclusion if they were teleported there for a micro second they may survive but otherwise bye bye strong guys.

This is comics, land of impossibilities

Gladiator can. Thor has been in the heart of the sun before. Hulk expremly enraged? Not sure. Classic Jugs? Powered by cyttorax and being durable as he was maybe. Herc? - only- if hes immortal and fully powered...and even then im not sure if he would. He has taken blasts from cosmic beingsbefore so i have no ideia.

Being sure: Glads and Thor plus very probably Jugs.