Phoenix: Endsong

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FieryBalrog
What did you guys think of this series? Given that Jean Grey/Phoenix is one of my favorite characters, I was kind of left with a bittersweet feeling. This might be Jean's last appearance in mainstream comics for a long time and they did give her a decent send off. Also they finally made clear once and for all that Jean Grey is the Phoenix and vice versa. On the other hand, they used the series as an excuse to keep Emma/Scott together.... and I dont really like Emma and I'm beginning to hate Scott for being such a wuss stick out tongue

RogueGambitdare
I don't like emma that much either. But it was getting tiring of seeing Scoot only with one girl. sleep1

RogueGambitdare
I meant Scott.

Draco69
I like Emma. Cyclops needs to get out of the whole Phoenix/Cable/Rachel stigma he has. He needs to be his own person instead of "Cyclops and Jean Grey" He never develops this way. Which is why Grant Morrison broke them up.

GalacticStorm
What happened so far ive only read up to issue 3. I cant read the rest till i finish uni next month

GuitarBunny
I don't exactly like Emma either but she does make the Dark Phoenix/Emma/Scott thing most interesting

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by Draco69
I like Emma. Cyclops needs to get out of the whole Phoenix/Cable/Rachel stigma he has. He needs to be his own person instead of "Cyclops and Jean Grey" He never develops this way. Which is why Grant Morrison broke them up.

well it might have worked out, but currently Cyclops still isn't his own person. He's "Cyclops and Emma who isn't Jean Grey, and youre going to like it". He's being defined by the fact that he's not with Jean anymore.

As a poster on another board put it, the Emma/Scott romance is still:

Cyclops: I love you Emma. You're not Jean, so everybody get used to it!
Emma: I love you Scott. I'm not Jean, and get used to it folks!

pr1983
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
What did you guys think of this series? Given that Jean Grey/Phoenix is one of my favorite characters, I was kind of left with a bittersweet feeling. This might be Jean's last appearance in mainstream comics for a long time and they did give her a decent send off. Also they finally made clear once and for all that Jean Grey is the Phoenix and vice versa. On the other hand, they used the series as an excuse to keep Emma/Scott together.... and I dont really like Emma and I'm beginning to hate Scott for being such a wuss stick out tongue

ok... im gonna disagree with the wuss part... you read the 'heart squeezing' part right?

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
well it might have worked out, but currently Cyclops still isn't his own person. He's "Cyclops and Emma who isn't Jean Grey, and youre going to like it". He's being defined by the fact that he's not with Jean anymore.

As a poster on another board put it, the Emma/Scott romance is still:

Cyclops: I love you Emma. You're not Jean, so everybody get used to it!
Emma: I love you Scott. I'm not Jean, and get used to it folks!

and yes i do agree... it feels like we're being force fed this... i dislike emma more than i do jean, and i really dislike jean (sorry fierybalrog)

ayjay
its always sad to see 'em go...but i hope jean stays gone this time...she's kool, i like the whole phoenix thingy...but....i think its time everyone moved on.....get something else to screw up scott's life ^__^....it's always been phoenix this, jean that....

stormfront13
i really like emme, she;s ojne of my favs. bbut i don't like the fact that she is with cyke....srry pr but imo cyke drags down her character

pr1983
Originally posted by stormfront13
i really like emme, she;s ojne of my favs. bbut i don't like the fact that she is with cyke....srry pr but imo cyke drags down her character

drags her down? really? not the opposite?

stormfront13
idk i liked her character more before she met him. i think she's turning a little soft in a way. idk maybe its just the fact that i don't like cyke.

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by pr1983
ok... im gonna disagree with the wuss part... you read the 'heart squeezing' part right?



and yes i do agree... it feels like we're being force fed this... i dislike emma more than i do jean, and i really dislike jean (sorry fierybalrog)

true.... I forgot about the heart squeezing thing... but in any case, I think he might have been bluffing stick out tongue (or mabye not). Cyclops is a cool character and very underrated, but his whininess about Jean is beginning to grate.

pr1983
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
true.... I forgot about the heart squeezing thing... but in any case, I think he might have been bluffing stick out tongue (or mabye not). Cyclops is a cool character and very underrated, but his whininess about Jean is beginning to grate.

well if she'd died three times and kept coming back to interrupt your life how would you feel?

and bluffing... i don't think cyke is one to bluff... especially in that situation...

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by pr1983
well if she'd died three times and kept coming back to interrupt your life how would you feel?

and bluffing... i don't think cyke is one to bluff... especially in that situation...

true... I'm kinda annoyed they keep killing her off and bringing her back (although i guess thats kinda unavoidable if youre a phoenix cool ) but I hope they do keep her gone for a while now, given that theyre just using her to bother scott.

pr1983
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
true... I'm kinda annoyed they keep killing her off and bringing her back (although i guess thats kinda unavoidable if youre a phoenix cool ) but I hope they do keep her gone for a while now, given that theyre just using her to bother scott.

to be honest...

i'm neither a huge fan of jean or emma... but i think jean suits him best... as long as they stop making it all about her...

rouge24
hey paul, i'm just wondering, why don't you like jean? i can understand why you don't like emma, as i don't like her myself

RogueGambitdare
Originally posted by pr1983
to be honest...

i'm neither a huge fan of jean or emma... but i think jean suits him best... as long as they stop making it all about her...
I totally agree with pr1983.

pr1983
Originally posted by rouge24
hey paul, i'm just wondering, why don't you like jean? i can understand why you don't like emma, as i don't like her myself

to be honest...

i think shes: completely self absorbed, selfish and sometimes two faced...

and the fact that cyclops will go down in history as jean greys husband, not a great leader or one of marvels top tacticians... no... the husband of the phoenix...

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by pr1983
to be honest...

i think shes: completely self absorbed, selfish and sometimes two faced...

and the fact that cyclops will go down in history as jean greys husband, not a great leader or one of marvels top tacticians... no... the husband of the phoenix...

he will probably go down as both. stick out tongue who doesnt know cyclops as leader of the x-men? He's only led them since the very early uncanny days.


of course, I think youre totally wrong about jean... although she isn't a perfect character.

pr1983
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
he will probably go down as both. stick out tongue who doesnt know cyclops as leader of the x-men? He's only led them since the very early uncanny days.


of course, I think youre totally wrong about jean... although she isn't a perfect character.

ok, maybe i was a bit harsh... but this is why i think what i do...

self absorbed... phoenix... me dead, me alive, me dead, me alive, me dead, me alive... and just expecting scott to deal with it like its nothing...

the selfish and two faced parts sort of intertwine... she drools and flirts with guys (logan in particular), yet when cyke looks at psylocke he gets shit... and yet he never complained about logan to her...

Draco69
Jean had alot nerve to egg on Scott (and Emma for that matter) when she was playing tonsil hockey with Logan behind his back.

pr1983
Originally posted by Draco69
Jean had alot nerve to egg on Scott (and Emma for that matter) when she was playing tonsil hockey with Logan behind his back.

thank you...

stormfront13
i never really liked jean myself, but i really like emma. she's one of my favorite characters. idk i always thought emma, and jean were wrong for scott. i always wanted him with storm and when jean died i was hoping that would happen..... but i guess not

hoorayforpeepee
they should really do a white crown phoenix mini-arc, where jean goes around owning cosmic types.

eleveninches
So does emma now have the phoenix force under her control??

That last page was rather confusing

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by eleveninches
So does emma now have the phoenix force under her control??

That last page was rather confusing

did you read issue 5?

the person on the last page is a cuckoo, not emma. wink

Blair Wind
ok since i havent been able to read it....whats happening in the series???? i dont care if there spoilers....please!!!

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by Blair Wind
ok since i havent been able to read it....whats happening in the series???? i dont care if there spoilers....please!!!

PM me and i could summarize it

eleveninches
oh. i didnt notice it was a cookoo. i thought it was emma

pr1983
Originally posted by eleveninches
oh. i didnt notice it was a cookoo. i thought it was emma

as did i... but there are two blondes lying behind her... unless scott is into his students thats a cuckoo... ill get the pic...

pr1983
the pic...

ayjay
o0o0o...how can the cuckoos house the phoenix...are they uber strong telepaths too? i thought they was just above average level

Mainstream
as a group the cuckoos are very strong.

hoorayforpeepee
but they're a reduced group...they still seemed very powerful at the end of new x-men, though. you know, in the last arc.

stormfront13
aren't tey like xavier level or higher??

FieryBalrog
well its a piece of jean floating around.... who knows what it means. Maybe she wants to possess them?

Phoenix_Avatar9
I SOO cannot wait 'til that gets explained, I think it might be a "lost" piece of the revived Phoenix Force since Jean seemed pretty complete toward the end.

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
I SOO cannot wait 'til that gets explained, I think it might be a "lost" piece of the revived Phoenix Force since Jean seemed pretty complete toward the end.

writers might just ignore it because it makes their life easier... little subplots like that often just get dropped... Hell, even MAJOR subplots just get left in limbo... anyone remember Destinys diaries? laughing

Cosmic Flame
Originally posted by pr1983
ok, maybe i was a bit harsh... but this is why i think what i do...

self absorbed... phoenix... me dead, me alive, me dead, me alive, me dead, me alive... and just expecting scott to deal with it like its nothing...

the selfish and two faced parts sort of intertwine... she drools and flirts with guys (logan in particular), yet when cyke looks at psylocke he gets shit... and yet he never complained about logan to her...

Up until this re-establishment of Jean=Phoenix, she'd really only be gone after the crash. It was Scott that kept coming back to Jean. He left Maddie for her, not the other way around. And as far as other relationships are concerned, the tension has been there between Scott and Logan from the beginning. And he obviously has a thing for telepaths. Except for the kiss in NXM, Jean and Logan had only been intimate when they thought that all else was lost. Scott was with Maddie because she reminded him of Jean, and with other women because they were there.

As far as him dealing with Jean/Phoenix and resurrections, you can't really complain without looking at him after he was rescued from Apocalypse. He had problems coping with his own issues. He certainly couldn't be expected to cope with Jean being who she was. When she first became Phoenix, he couldn't handle it. When she was just Jean, he couldn't handle it. When she started manifesting Phoenix again, he couldn't handle it. When Jean and Cable rescued him from Apocalypse, he couldn't handle being who he was...Perhaps he finally understood how Jean could have become Dark Phoenix.

And let's not forget that everytime that Jean dies, it's ultimately to save Scott.

FieryBalrog
not to mention how nice it was of Jean to force Scott over his grief, knowing it would lead to Emma in Here Comes Tomorrow... big grin

pr1983
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Up until this re-establishment of Jean=Phoenix, she'd really only be gone after the crash. It was Scott that kept coming back to Jean. He left Maddie for her, not the other way around. And as far as other relationships are concerned, the tension has been there between Scott and Logan from the beginning. And he obviously has a thing for telepaths. Except for the kiss in NXM, Jean and Logan had only been intimate when they thought that all else was lost. Scott was with Maddie because she reminded him of Jean, and with other women because they were there.

As far as him dealing with Jean/Phoenix and resurrections, you can't really complain without looking at him after he was rescued from Apocalypse. He had problems coping with his own issues. He certainly couldn't be expected to cope with Jean being who she was. When she first became Phoenix, he couldn't handle it. When she was just Jean, he couldn't handle it. When she started manifesting Phoenix again, he couldn't handle it. When Jean and Cable rescued him from Apocalypse, he couldn't handle being who he was...Perhaps he finally understood how Jean could have become Dark Phoenix.

And let's not forget that everytime that Jean dies, it's ultimately to save Scott.

he came running back? yes, because if the love of my life died and was reincarnated, im supposed to leave her alone when i know she wants me back?

could any sane man handle his wife becoming a cosmic being?

couldnt handle her as jean? how?

and when apocalypse (ruler of worlds, immortal, insanely powerful mutant) was pulled from his body, he's just supposed to go back to normal?

well scott's usually the one sticking his neck out for her, so it figures...



yeah, wonderful... stick out tongue

Cosmic Flame
Originally posted by pr1983
he came running back? yes, because if the love of my life died and was reincarnated, im supposed to leave her alone when i know she wants me back?

could any sane man handle his wife becoming a cosmic being?

couldnt handle her as jean? how?

and when apocalypse (ruler of worlds, immortal, insanely powerful mutant) was pulled from his body, he's just supposed to go back to normal?

well scott's usually the one sticking his neck out for her, so it figures...



yeah, wonderful... stick out tongue

You mean should you leave your wife and your child for what you once had with someone you thought was dead? I can't answer that, but we have seen the results of that.

He seemed perfectly capable of accepting what Jean was in Endsong. That's only after years of him denying who she was, as well as asking her to deny her powers. What changed?

Look at X-Factor. Jean kept telling her she wasn't anyone else but herself, and he refused to believe it. Somewhat understandable, but not her fault. Remember Alaska? When Jean started using more and more power, he freaked out. During New X-Men, when she started using more and more power, he freaked out. No one else had an issue with what she was doing. He wanted to hold on to an idea of her from their early days, but he expected her to acknowledge that he was different since Apocalypse. "I want you to be this type of person because it makes me comfortable and it's what I need, but you need to accept me for what I currently am." Come on now...That's a double standard if I ever saw one.

And Scott's always the one that saves everyone, because the X-Men aren't a team. They don't watch each other's backs. It's just him.

You haven't suggested any overtly or covertly selfish behavior on the part of Jean. The only things that have been shown are how selfish Scott can be. Before NXM, she held back on using her powers for Scott, but finally began flexing more of her mental muscle. During NXM, Jean went to Xavier so that he could tell Scott that she wasn't evil. So much of her action during that run was focused on them, their marriage and Scott (including putting Emma back together for him AFTER she found out about their affair because Scott needed her), while he was focused on himself (Emma, Weapon X, etc).

pr1983
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
You mean should you leave your wife and your child for what you once had with someone you thought was dead? I can't answer that, but we have seen the results of that.

madelyne was a psychopath... and scott hadnt had a chance to grieve whatsoever...



endsong was recent, he's had years to get over her, and emma is in the picture now...



she started wearing her phoenix outfit... he goes rogue, the x-men can take him down... she goes rogue? some stars get eaten up... its not a double standard, its just different...



so why do they stick together? spend hours in the danger room?



miss "self involved i'm so perfect" jean? who should have told logan to go f*ck himself but didnt? ultimate x-men jean did... mainstream couldnt?

scott is not perfect, but when it comes down to it, if xavier dies tomorrow, scott is left to pick up the slack. not emma, not wolverine, him. selfish? because he wants some attention from his wife? because he doesnt want her to turn into the phoenix again?

the guys not perfect, but he is just that, a guy... who's power stops him from ever losing control of himself...

Cosmic Flame
Scott had a chance to grieve. He didn't take it. He became invovled with Maddie by choice. No one forced him into the situation. No one prevented him from mourning Jean. His choice. Maddies mental state is secondary. She wasn't unstable until AFTER he left her and his son.



So your point about Scott being able to deal with Jean dying is moot, then isn't it? He's been able to work through it because he's had time and he's got another woman...


Because we all know that the X-Men were able to take down Apocalypse. They did such a great job that Cyclops merged with him roll eyes (sarcastic) In the end it was Jean and Cable that saved Scott and defeated Apoc, not the X-Men. And it's not the same. You're thinking of evil in terms of degrees. It doesn't really matter. You forgot that Scott and Jean were in the future and saw the world that Apocalypse created, how many people died under his hand. It's not different. Whether it's a planet in another star system or Earth thousands of years in the future, evil is evil and genocide is genocide.

Perhaps he should have thought about helping his wife to grow and learn how to deal with her powers instead of running away from them. When Jean first became Phoenix, she didn't really have a chance to work with her powers, to grow into them. When she does, her husband runs away in fear instead of trying to help her.


That's exactly my point. They are a team. It's what they do. I was being sarcastic before.



The same could be said of Scott...and Maddie...and Emma...and Psylocke...and Colleen...He made a choice to be with these women, sometimes when Jean was around. She never made a choice to be with Logan.



Scott would take over because Jean isn't there. I always felt that if Xavier died, Scott would take over the X-Men, and Jean would run the school and X-Corps. I always felt like he was grooming them specifically for those jobs.

As far as him being selfish, note that everything you said was what HE wants, not what's best for everyone. When did Jean not give him attention? At the beginning of NXM, you see her confront him about their lack of intimacy, and he just wants her to read his mind instead of directly dealing with the issue. He turns to Emma instead of his wife, not because he couldn't, but because he wouldn't. He didn't even turn to Xavier. Who better to help you work through something like the Apocalypse situation than the two people who know better than anyone else what it's like to lose control...what it's like to be what you most fear?

He never listened to Jean about her growth in power. He didn't want her to be Phoenix because it made him uncomfortable. What she said didn't matter. What Beast said "Jean's a grown-up omega mutant" didn't matter, because it wasn't what HE wanted. Yes, I consider that to be selfish when your spouse wants you to understand what they are going through, but you refuse to listen.


Perhaps that's the whole problem. He treats everyone like everyone is a Scott Summers. Kurt addressed this way back in Uncanny 109:

"I have a name, Scott. Kurt Wagner, remember?...Perhaps you are right. I've had a prett easy life so far. I guess--not at all like you. For example, I've never had to worry about optic beams--I've only been blue and furry since I was born!...We are what we are Scott--wishing won't change a blessed thing. Nor will feeling sorry for yourself. I learned very early on that I must either accept what I am, or go mad. And though I am now occasionally crazy, I am not insane. If you keep tearing your guys apart every time you think the world's shafted you, my friend, you'll destroy not only yourself--but those who love you."

I think this is the reason that Morrison split Jean and Scott up. Maybe Emma can help him to get past all of that craziness. Not being with Scott will help Jean grow as well.

Jean's not perfect either. I doubt any Jean fan would make such a claim. She has a temper. She's sometimes rash. I don't see any indication that she's been particularly selfish. She could have kept Scott and Emma apart, but she didn't. When has he been that giving towards her?

She's woman that has the power to do anything she can think of. And she always thinks of the love of her life before anything else.

pr1983
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Scott had a chance to grieve. He didn't take it. He became invovled with Maddie by choice. No one forced him into the situation. No one prevented him from mourning Jean. His choice. Maddies mental state is secondary. She wasn't unstable until AFTER he left her and his son.

he chose to because his heart was broken... he needed comfort...



No, my point is that she'd died three times... every time its worse, though because he's dealt with it before and he has emma it is alot easier to grieve...



i didnt forget, i have the comic...

apocalypse in cyclops' body needs time to formulate any strategy...

phoenix inside jean doesnt... she just goes apeshit and kills a couple of billion people...

evil is in degrees... thats my point... jean and cable found scott before he could do what apocalypse would given the chance...

if jean turned into the phoenix in the middle of a danger room training routine all the x-men in the world can;t stop her...



run away? you do know how powerful the phoenix is right? jean is never going to control the phoenix unless the phoenix wants her to...



oh, my bad... lookaround




Maddie came along while Jean was dead... not cheating... Emma gave him the attention and affection Jean wouldnt... Psylocke? are you telling me you could resist her? stick out tongue

Obviously not, but she never discouraged him either did she?



but jean as we know is the phoenix, so scott would be left to pick up the pieces...



This is a Cyclops V Jean discussion, you talk about her, i talk about him stick out tongue

her wants arent whats neccessarily good for everyone either...

He wants her to read his mind because thats what they always did... he was never a big talker... Sure he was messed up, who wouldnt be, but why did jean let emma near him? She's his wife, Do you think he'd allow wolverine to rehabilitate her if she was in a smiliar position? I'd bet not...

He did have doubts after the apocalypse affair, why? because he'd seen the evil that exists within apocalypse, how many people wouldn't be scarred by something like that.

Yes he was with emma, and yes he was wrong to, but there's a reason for everything...



no, he didnt want her to be phoenix because its a cosmically powered incredibly destructive power... its not about his "comfort"

What, and he hasnt had his own shit to deal with? he'd just had a bomb taken out of his chest... he was told not to use his optic blasts... he was effectively crippled...

Perhaps that's the whole problem. He treats everyone like everyone is a Scott Summers. Kurt addressed this way back in Uncanny 109:



Yes, scott can be an ass and expect too much of people of times... but thats why he's the leader... its his job to get the best out of people... sure he doesnt always go the right way about it, but he doesnt do it out of spite...



Well neither of them has come very far since then... so if they're gonna help em grow now would be a good time...

Honestly though? I think scott and jean splitting up was due to a writer trying to make a name for himself...

Morrison does good work, but the scott and emma thing hasnt really progressed at all... and jean is still the phoenix...



she thinks of him, and he constantly thinks of her... hell he probably still loves her more than he ever could emma...

Mainstream
Apocalypse is not evil he just is.

Paola
what are you talking about? big grin

Phoenix_Avatar9
Originally posted by Paola
what are you talking about? big grin
confused yea im confused too

Mainstream
Originally posted by Paola
what are you talking about? big grin

Paul something about Apocalypse being evil I was replying to it. he was referring to when Apocalypse got inside of Scott body..and he said Apocalypse would have did evil stuff..but he's not evil..he just is.

pr1983
Originally posted by Paola
what are you talking about? big grin

moi?

Phoenix_Avatar9
Originally posted by Mainstream
Paul something about Apocalypse being evil I was replying to it. he was referring to when Apocalypse got inside of Scott body..and he said Apocalypse would have did evil stuff..but he's not evil..he just is.
u mean like no sense of good or evil but just existing to satisfy personal needs? huh

Mainstream
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
u mean like no sense of good or evil but just existing to satisfy personal needs? huh

exactly..it is the way of Apocalypse...who are we to judge him?

Phoenix_Avatar9
Originally posted by Mainstream
exactly..it is the way of Apocalypse...who are we to judge him?
interesting philosophical perspective big grin

Mainstream
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
interesting philosophical perspective big grin

I live only to serve my lord Apocalypse. love30

Phoenix_Avatar9
Originally posted by Mainstream
I live only to serve my lord Apocalypse. love30
u'll nvr guess my supreme being! shifty lol

Mainstream
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
u'll nvr guess my supreme being! shifty lol

you would mock my master...for this...you..you..must pay...fighting28 (just kidding I never shot anyone...probably) eek!

Paola
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
confused yea im confused too
I'm not confused, I didn't read the thread embarrasment
Originally posted by Mainstream
Paul something about Apocalypse being evil I was replying to it. he was referring to when Apocalypse got inside of Scott body..and he said Apocalypse would have did evil stuff..but he's not evil..he just is.
thanks...
Originally posted by pr1983
moi?
yeah.. those huge posts you made... but nvm I kinda get it now lookaround

pr1983
Originally posted by Paola
I'm not confused, I didn't read the thread embarrasment

thanks...

yeah.. those huge posts you made... but nvm I kinda get it now lookaround

im defending scott, cosmic flame (who is a great debater btw big grin) is defending jean...

rouge24
well, i think paul and cosmic flame have equally good points. both jean and scott have their good and bad points. but i still think that emma should have left scott alone(don't kill me, just my opinion).

pr1983
Originally posted by rouge24
well, i think paul and cosmic flame have equally good points. both jean and scott have their good and bad points. but i still think that emma should have left scott alone(don't kill me, just my opinion).

i don't like emma at all...

Mainstream
Originally posted by pr1983
i don't like emma at all...

not even a little?

Paola
It was kinda dissappointing seeing those two together.... but I would be more dissaponted if Scott stays with Jean forever and ever...

but that's just me big grin

Mainstream
Originally posted by Paola
It was kinda dissappointing seeing those two together.... but I would be more dissaponted if Scott stays with Jean forever and ever...

but that's just me big grin

come they were made for each other...

rouge24
Originally posted by pr1983
i don't like emma at all...

why don't you like emma?

i have my reasons.......

pr1983
Originally posted by Mainstream
not even a little?

No... she's nothing but a big tease...

Originally posted by Paola
It was kinda dissappointing seeing those two together.... but I would be more dissaponted if Scott stays with Jean forever and ever...

but that's just me big grin

Oh, i completely agree... guy needs to spread his wings a little...

Mainstream
Originally posted by pr1983
No... she's nothing but a big tease...



Oh, i completely agree... guy needs to spread his wings a little...

spread his wings...you thinking about Archangel..just kidding..I know what you mean.

rouge24
Originally posted by pr1983
No... she's nothing but a big tease...



Oh, i completely agree... guy needs to spread his wings a little...

i agree too, but why emma?

Mainstream
Originally posted by rouge24
i agree too, but why emma?

yeah I hear Jubilee legal now.

pr1983
Originally posted by rouge24
i agree too, but why emma?

i just don't like her attitude... she's too up herself... like she's perfect... she must be great in the sack, cos i don't see why cyke is with her otherwise...

rouge24
Originally posted by Mainstream
yeah I hear Jubilee legal now.

haha, i didn't mean he should get together with jubilee or someone like her, but i mean, why didn't he get with psylocke? since he has a thing for telepaths........

rouge24
Originally posted by pr1983
i just don't like her attitude... she's too up herself... like she's perfect... she must be great in the sack, cos i don't see why cyke is with her otherwise...

yeah, she's too stuck up. if she were real, i'd probably go slap her......

Mainstream
Originally posted by rouge24
haha, i didn't mean he should get together with jubilee or someone like her, but i mean, why didn't he get with psylocke? since he has a thing for telepaths........

I read she anit a telepath...he should get with Rachael summers...oh that's his kid..my bad.

rouge24
Originally posted by Mainstream
I read she anit a telepath...he should get with Rachael summers...oh that's his kid..my bad.

i thought emma was a telepath, or are you talking abotu someone else?

munkiesarus
Oh, man, this is dissapointing. Emma is my favorite X-Man. Thanks to New X-Men for bringing her back.

I mean really, she's my FAVORITE.

She is the mirror of her power: diamond on the outside, and yet, coal on the inside. Well, not coal. But she's always hiding behind the facade of Mrs. Posh...whereas its just that: a facade. She's a HUMAN inside.

Phoenix Endsong #2, Scott says, after a fight with Emma, that Jean would be blasting a hole in the wall and running away in anger. But Emma...Emma sticks around. Hold on I'll attach the pic.

pr1983
Originally posted by munkiesarus
Oh, man, this is dissapointing. Emma is my favorite X-Man. Thanks to New X-Men for bringing her back.

I mean really, she's my FAVORITE.

She is the mirror of her power: diamond on the outside, and yet, coal on the inside. Well, not coal. But she's always hiding behind the facade of Mrs. Posh...whereas its just that: a facade. She's a HUMAN inside.

Phoenix Endsong #2, Scott says, after a fight with Emma, that Jean would be blasting a hole in the wall and running away in anger. But Emma...Emma sticks around. Hold on I'll attach the pic.

does logan have to interrupt everything?

munkiesarus
Everything...

pr1983
Originally posted by munkiesarus
Everything...

yeah... bas7ard...

FieryBalrog
Originally posted by munkiesarus
Oh, man, this is dissapointing. Emma is my favorite X-Man. Thanks to New X-Men for bringing her back.

I mean really, she's my FAVORITE.

She is the mirror of her power: diamond on the outside, and yet, coal on the inside. Well, not coal. But she's always hiding behind the facade of Mrs. Posh...whereas its just that: a facade. She's a HUMAN inside.

Phoenix Endsong #2, Scott says, after a fight with Emma, that Jean would be blasting a hole in the wall and running away in anger. But Emma...Emma sticks around. Hold on I'll attach the pic.

yea, Jean would be blasting a hole in the wall if she found Scott dreaming of Emma while they were making out laughing Emma will put up with anything. No wonder she has such an inferiority complex about Jean... Strictly thats not true though, Jean caught him thinking of Psylocke and she didn't go ape-wild.

oh, and if theres one thing thats true, its that whenever Scott Summers's love life gets complicated, he runs away. Lets see Psylocke kisses him and he gets so confused he runs away to Alaska even after Jean and Ororo ask him to stay...

willRules
Does anyone have any cool pics from Phoenix endsong? Im tempted to buy the story but I need convincing through cool pics........

xmarksthespot
The art is great... maybe the character's have a bit of an airbrushed look but still visually nice. It's where I got the pics from my sig.

xmarksthespot
I'm really liking The Stepford Cuckoos.
Another random pic.

willRules
Cool cheers big grin

Got anymore?

xmarksthespot
This.

Phoenix_Avatar9
heres one

munkiesarus
Don't base your decision TOO MUCH on the art alone...the miniseries was a really good one, trust me.

xmarksthespot
Yeah. Twas a good miniseries AND it had great art.

Phoenix_Avatar9
I hope they come out with the continuing issue, I'm gonna have a freakin stroke if I don't know what happens to whichever one of the Cuckoos that was wacko

xmarksthespot
Phoebe, Celeste or Mindee? My money's on Phoebe big grin

FieryBalrog

willRules
Cheers for those pics big grin

willRules
That last one looked really cool was the glowing person the Phoenix force?

Phoenix_Avatar9
Originally posted by willRules
That last one looked really cool was the glowing person the Phoenix force?

If you mean mine, then yes big grin

willRules
Do u have any more pics? big grin

Phoenix_Avatar9
sry, that's all i got sad , got it off google laughing out loud

Britrogue
I got this one.............

willRules
Cheers for that one Britroque. Its now my display pick for my msn

Fionnuala
I got this..

Fionnuala
This..

Fionnuala
another one..

I have more if you want them..

willRules
Cool cheers big grin

blaise
here's one

munkiesarus
Oooh...that's deep, lol.

Why doesn't someone just post all the issues online! stick out tongue

munkiesarus
http://tinypic.com/6pceba.jpg

WOAH...what the HELL is going on in that picture?!?

rouge24
Originally posted by munkiesarus
Oooh...that's deep, lol.

Why doesn't someone just post all the issues online! stick out tongue

that's a very good idea! that way, i wouldn't have to buy them, i'm too lazy to go out and buy them

munkiesarus
lol likewise...

blaise
YUPsmile i agree

ScarletPheonix
i know this is kindof late but i just got the first 2 issues and they r so good i cant wait to get the other three

RisingStorm
yeah post them here for the benefit of those who can't buy it, like me.

eternitygoddess
^and me.

willRules
I have all the Phoenix endsong issues but I don't have a scanner sorry sad

RisingStorm
too bad!!! we need it, lol...

Gandhi_of_KMC
If Jean Grey and the Phoenix are one confused Why is Jean in shards? shifty smile

eternitygoddess
^I think it has to do something with the attack by the Sh'iar spaceship.

Phoenix_Avatar9
yea, i think it was reviving her during her incubation, and splitting her made them think it'd be easier to kill her

thedarkphoenix
yup

crimsonphoenix
I like the drawings......I love looking at them for some reason...

blaise
here this ones cool

Mr _Whirlysplat
Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
yea, i think it was reviving her during her incubation, and splitting her made them think it'd be easier to kill her


I see so it was able to affect her this much

Mr _Whirlysplat
up

Ron Jeremy
up

thesilverspider
skeet skeet skeet

SnakeEyes
I just bought the graphic novel of this.... have not read it yet.

Dr. Grey
better hurry up and read it your missing out!

blaise
here

montrail
yeah

FieryBalrog
yeah? confused

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