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As I sit working on the computer I have CNN on behind me for a little background noise.

As they started to talk about the pending British election I turned around and to watch. The gist of the whole piece was that many british citizens are unhappy with Blair and are threatening legal action against him if the Iraq war is deamed "unlawful". The report went on about whether the british people would re-ellect a leader who they feel so blatantly lied to them.

And then came the kicker, the reporter then said, "But americans are no stranger to voting for a president who has lied to them"... now wait for it..."it wasn't to long ago that Bill Clinton lied to the american people, but that was not about a war and not as serious as Blair's mistakes". (Although I used quotes it's not the exact wording, but you get the point).

The thing that totally killed me is that they ignored all the Bullshit that Bush has fed his countrymen about the Iraq war (while condemning Blair) and went after Bill for lying about his personal life.

It was fricken' brilliant I tell ya!

'bias liberal media'

Originally posted by PVS
'bias liberal media'

I was just going to say "Damn that liberal media bias!" but you beat me to it

this kind of amuses me....but you must admit that this board mostly is liberal biased. And its a kind of media too.

Originally posted by Bardock42
this kind of amuses me....but you must admit that this board mostly is liberal biased. And its a kind of media too.

This board's not the media media refers to any official news source -- newspapers, magazines, TV.....

Actually the internet is a type of media its not the media of course but well....actually I was trying to make a joke......but to quote the smiths ..."This joke isn't funny anymore"...and never was..well...I guess I will just go sit in a corner then

Originally posted by KharmaDog
And then came the kicker, the reporter then said, "But americans are no stranger to voting for a president who has lied to them"

Starting with George W in the 18th century and ending with George W in the 21st.

Originally posted by Bardock42
actually I was trying to make a joke

Oh

Originally posted by botankus
Starting with George W in the 18th century and ending with George W in the 21st.

haha I like that.

Oh Lana you always understand jokes ...right (This has something to do with simpsons and since I probably quopted it wrong it will only bne funny for me)

apparently bill clinton getting a blowjob impacted the world and america far more than a war bush started which was based on lies and led to the deaths of countless thousands of iraqis and over 1500 american casualties.

Well in a way ...this blowjob might actually have caused this war in the end.

Originally posted by PVS
apparently bill clinton getting a blowjob impacted the world and america far more than a war bush started which was based on lies and led to the deaths of countless thousands of iraqis and over 1500 american casualties.

Bill get's blown by an intern and lies about it and it's the end of the world.

Bush actually f*cks america and then lies about it and it's overlooked.

Wierd.

How ironic.

Bill Clinton releasing precious fluid onto an innocent woman is apparantly worse than Bush killing innocent people to STEAL precious fluid.

Oh the wonders of the world we live in.

-AC

Gotta love it

Well you have to admit that Bill did something terrible, i mean he wasted some of gods precious fluids. And did something that the church condems.

Bush fought a holy war to...

God i can't even ****ing say it, Bush is an idiot. Bill was just human and should have destroyed the security tape...

Bias liberal media indeed, how the hell is it that people still talk about that one little thing... One thing that didn't do anything against the American people and completly forget about something far more important...

Republicans have a hard time understanding that what goes on between a man and a woman inside their marriage is no one else's buisness.

^ When it happens in a public place, it is. (Though I suppose one would not classify the White House as public, technically.)

Edit: Unless you are being sarcastic, as Clinton was not married to Ms. Lewinski...

Sorry, I'm not good.

its just simple distraction.
and conservatives fall for it hook line and sinker.

dem: how can you deny every atrocity/lie/shady deal committed by our president----

rep: HEY!!!! remember that clinton heathen??? remember that??? HUH!?!?!?

dem: well, if you want to throw the past up, then perhaps i'll bring up scandals under republican presidents, like the watergate scandal, the trading of arms for hostages under reagan----

rep: OH C'MON ALREADY!!! you liberal crybabies can never get over the past can you? move on, will ya?

My dad said that he was flipping through news channels when the story of the "runaway bride" was new, and CNN had a bunch of women blaming the pressures of marriage, stress, etc. while FOX had women on who were saying that she should be tried.

Does that make you feel better?

Bill Clinton lied under oath and then somehow didn't get any legal action taken against him. Anybody else does it they have the book thrown at them.
Bush has been known to be full of BS as well so don't say i am siding with him either.
If you ask me all of these political guys are liars.

They had a chance to take a shot at Bush and they blew it?

Bastards.

Originally posted by moviejunkie23
Bill Clinton lied under oath and then somehow didn't get any legal action taken against him. Anybody else does it they have the book thrown at them.
Bush has been known to be full of BS as well so don't say i am siding with him either.
If you ask me all of these political guys are liars.

I agree with you. I just thought of all the lies and deception to use as an example of a leader lying to the American people, Clinton was a fairly lightweight example. Especially since recent evidence has been brought to light re: Iraq.

Yeah well it sounds like thats what they meant at first, and then they saved themselves at the last minute with the Clinton remark.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I agree with you. I just thought of all the lies and deception to use as an example of a leader lying to the American people, Clinton was a fairly lightweight example. Especially since recent evidence has been brought to light re: Iraq.
Wait 'til the next election. Then you can hear them rip on Bush.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Wait 'til the next election. Then you can hear them rip on Bush.

Rather than wait for people to call Bush on his behavior I'd rather they do it while it can make a difference.

I was never a huge fan of how Clinton conducted himself, but I do think he did a better job as president.

I also find it amusing that while Clinton was in office people were going after him because of the Lewinski issue, whitewater, Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers. People were always after Clinton. Yet no one is attempting to take on Bush with his many questionable decisions and actions.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Rather than wait for people to call Bush on his behavior I'd rather they do it while it can make a difference.

I was never a huge fan of how Clinton conducted himself, but I do think he did a better job as president.

I also find it amusing that while Clinton was in office people were going after him because of the Lewinski issue, whitewater, Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers. People were always after Clinton. Yet no one is attempting to take on Bush with his many questionable decisions and actions.
I'm sure if they found him in bed with Cheney the media would be in an uproar.

The fact is if the media wants, they can make bush extremely unpopular and make his whole country go against him. the media never ever attacks the president. At least foreign networks like the CBC and BBC and even local Channels around here in Toronto, take some good swings at bush.

Originally posted by manny321
the media never ever attacks the president

Once again I have to say that I think during his reign, Clinton was hounded and investigated by the media for many different reasons.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
As I sit working on the computer I have CNN on behind me for a little background noise.

As they started to talk about the pending British election I turned around and to watch. The gist of the whole piece was that many british citizens are unhappy with Blair and are threatening legal action against him if the Iraq war is deamed "unlawful". The report went on about whether the british people would re-ellect a leader who they feel so blatantly lied to them.

And then came the kicker, the reporter then said, "But americans are no stranger to voting for a president who has lied to them"... now wait for it..."it wasn't to long ago that Bill Clinton lied to the american people, but that was not about a war and not as serious as Blair's mistakes". (Although I used quotes it's not the exact wording, but you get the point).

The thing that totally killed me is that they ignored all the Bullshit that Bush has fed his countrymen about the Iraq war (while condemning Blair) and went after Bill for lying about his personal life.

It was fricken' brilliant I tell ya!

I can't stand Cnn it sucks it is liberal and there is nothering funny about that channel.JM

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I can't stand Cnn it sucks it is liberal and there is nothering funny about that channel.JM

You didn't even read that post.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I can't stand Cnn it sucks it is liberal and there is nothering funny about that channel.JM

You shouldn't have been able to read my post because I am on your ignore list.

Could you describe how you see CNN as being liberal (and give examples). Do you know what liberal means? Do you have any notion about pop culture or media at all? You do realize that CNN is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY?

Every time you post you make yourself look like a bigger fool.

Before you respond to a post made by me or any other KMC member, READ THE F*CKIN POST THAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO!

Originally posted by Lana
You didn't even read that post.

Does she read any of them? Honestly, you all would be alot less stressed if you'd put her on ignore. I know I am.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Does she read any of them? Honestly, you all would be alot less stressed if you'd put her on ignore. I know I am.

I keep her off ignore because in the OTF she's actually quite nice and sensible....but in here.... I think I'm just going to not read anything she posts in the GDF anymore.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I can't stand Cnn it sucks it is liberal and there is nothering funny about that channel.JM

thats the kind of post that will give someone an aneurysm.

Originally posted by PVS
thats the kind of post that will give someone an aneurysm.

I don't know what's worse:

- the fact that it's grammatic homicide
- that she can't spell a word as simple as "nothing"
- that the entire statement seems to be written by some one just barely above being functionally retarded
- or that with one moronic statement JM can derail an entire thread.

bla la bla vla bla is this forum rreallly talkin bout the news sry bout the spellin aint tryin ...wuts everyone do for fun...sit on this all day...lol.........isnt therea good topic

you people are wack get a life

Originally posted by PVS
thats the kind of post that will give someone an aneurysm.

Yeah, ME! Uggh.

I, too, died a little on the inside when she wrote that. I think she has her five-year-old sister type up a bunch of random responses and then she copy-pastes them into her posts.

You think she can understand what a five year old thinks?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You think she can understand what a five year old thinks?
Normally I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, but...

Originally posted by kaidaboo
bla la bla vla bla is this forum rreallly talkin bout the news sry bout the spellin aint tryin ...wuts everyone do for fun...sit on this all day...lol.........isnt therea good topic

Perhaps you'd be happier sitting by yourself with some crayons and a colouring book? Challenge yourself and try to colour within the lines.

Is there any chance we are going to get back on topic?

Originally posted by kaidaboo
you people are wack get a life

who is more wack and needs to get a life, these people who are actually having a discussion, or you who just comes here to post that.

i think you are the one who is wack and needs to get a life. that is my final answer.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Perhaps you'd be happier sitting by yourself with some crayons and a colouring book? Challenge yourself and try to colour within the lines.

Is there any chance we are going to get back on topic?


I dunno, what were we talking about?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I dunno, what were we talking about?

while the rest of you are more and more convinced of her stupidity, i am more and more convinced its all an act and we're all being had. JM, i'm on to you.

Originally posted by PVS
while the rest of you are more and more convinced of her stupidity, i am more and more convinced its all an act and we're all being had. JM, i'm on to you.

God, that would be great.

Well either way sounds plausibleto me.


Anyways kaidaboo I guess you will be a lot happier in ...let's say the Off-topic forum...where people talk aboot....well pretty much nothing of any importance....this thread is a discussion aboot the strength of the media and politics in the US if you don't like it....well then go away.


To get back on topic. It seems to me that most of your (America's) bigger News Channels seem to be biased in one way or another even though I believe the more powerful ones are conservative......for some reason this is totally different here in Germany....of course you can sometimes see which station is more conservative and which is more social - democratic but overall they give everyone a fair chance...and bring the news mostly unbiased.

You know its funny, there was a discussion going on that argued with what JM would believe, she makes one post and suddenly the discussion is gone.

She's not as stupid as most of you think, she's probably really brilliant doing all this stuff just to annoy all of you...

Anyways, its probably harder to do in Germany, as you have more then two party's that matter. Its a lot harder for the media to pick sides when there are a lot more sides to choose from. They could still do it, but its going to be hard. They can pick on one party, but its hard to destroy one and glorify another when there are several channels all with different favorites. If you had a two party system it would probably be the same as in the US

Originally posted by Fishy
You know its funny, there was a discussion going on that argued with what JM would believe, she makes one post and suddenly the discussion is gone.

She's not as stupid as most of you think, she's probably really brilliant doing all this stuff just to annoy all of you...

Anyways, its probably harder to do in Germany, as you have more then two party's that matter. Its a lot harder for the media to pick sides when there are a lot more sides to choose from. They could still do it, but its going to be hard. They can pick on one party, but its hard to destroy one and glorify another when there are several channels all with different favorites. If you had a two party system it would probably be the same as in the US


Um, no. It would only be brilliant if o one caught on.

Originally posted by Fishy
You know its funny, there was a discussion going on that argued with what JM would believe, she makes one post and suddenly the discussion is gone.

She's not as stupid as most of you think, she's probably really brilliant doing all this stuff just to annoy all of you...

Anyways, its probably harder to do in Germany, as you have more then two party's that matter. Its a lot harder for the media to pick sides when there are a lot more sides to choose from. They could still do it, but its going to be hard. They can pick on one party, but its hard to destroy one and glorify another when there are several channels all with different favorites. If you had a two party system it would probably be the same as in the US

Well thats true ...... but really a two party system is quite stupis anyways. Well mayb e all people in your country either think what the democrats do is right or what the conservatives do, then your system would be just great....but I don't belive that all 300 000 000 people in your country have only two different opinions...you can always just vote for the lesser evil since o totally agree with one of the parties seems to be rather impossible....

And for your media, regardless of a two party system, they sjhould go back to what they were intended to be a non biased source of truth.....as someone said before the media was always powerful but at least they were fair in earlier times.

I live in the Netherlands we have more then two party's and less then 300.000.000 people, anyways the media should indeed go back to being a none bias organisation. Not that it would work though.

Your from Germany so lets just take an example from that country, most people in Germany agree Hitler was an idiot right? How would you feel if the media all the media would suddenly start defending his points because in his eyes they were right. The Media is bias they always have been, either bias to the idea's of the country they are stationed in. Or biased towards the one that gives them most money. An trully unbiased Media would not be accepted by most people, so it has to be biased.

If your biased anyways then why not make some money out of it?

Originally posted by Fishy
I live in the Netherlands we have more then two party's and less then 300.000.000 people, anyways the media should indeed go back to being a none bias organisation. Not that it would work though.

Your from Germany so lets just take an example from that country, most people in Germany agree Hitler was an idiot right? How would you feel if the media all the media would suddenly start defending his points because in his eyes they were right. The Media is bias they always have been, either bias to the idea's of the country they are stationed in. Or biased towards the one that gives them most money. An trully unbiased Media would not be accepted by most people, so it has to be biased.

If your biased anyways then why not make some money out of it?

I'm afraid that is going to require a little more explaination.

What part?

Sorry I was relating to the US of course

Of course they were not unbiased.....I meant to say that they were fair in earlier times (leave thinks like Hitler and other propaganda out of course).
What you said aboot a media that tries to defend Hitlers policies would firast of all be totally biased...none the less you can have different view points on what hitler has done...and because there afre slightly biased Medias you have a chance to get fair coverage of most things....if there is a monopoly of same way biased media though (Like it seems to be in the US) you won't get fair coverage of both sides.

Of course you won't get fair coverage, but the fact remains that Hitler (although almost everybody would thank god disagree with him) still made points that people agreed with.

An unbiased media would talk about the advantages and disadvantages of such a policy right now that couldn't happen because of several reasons. And I really can't blame Germany for not showing things like that, or any other country for that matter. a more unbiased media however i agree would be a good thing. Accepting what is socially accepted but not following one political party.

ohh so CNN has stopped broadcasting form the Vatican now and actually handle other events in the world???

CNN is only good when there are big events around the world. Like 9/11 and the tsunami. I watched the Canadian channels during the Iraq war, because the American channels were so biased but funny. Guys, remember the Iraqi information minister. He said we killed all of them at the airport while they showed video of US soldiers sitting at the airport. Many Canadian channels showed a less biased story.

Originally posted by PVS
while the rest of you are more and more convinced of her stupidity, i am more and more convinced its all an act and we're all being had. JM, i'm on to you.

LMAO! Yeah, that would be great. I'll bet she's really some 55-year college professor performing psychology experiments and we are the subjects.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You shouldn't have been able to read my post because I am on your ignore list.

Could you describe how you see CNN as being liberal (and give examples). Do you know what liberal means? Do you have any notion about pop culture or media at all? You do realize that CNN is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY?

Every time you post you make yourself look like a bigger fool.

Before you respond to a post made by me or any other KMC member, READ THE F*CKIN POST THAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO!

I read it and yea I could read your post if I wanted too.Also your post proves why you are my ignore list!jm

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I read it and yea I could read your post if I wanted too.Also your post proves why you are my ignore list!jm

If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on the planet.


As for the major news stations, I just think that things have changed alot in the last few years, it seems that since 9/11 they are very hesitant to question anything that the president does, and even less likely to challenge him, seek any reasoning behind his action or hold him responsible.

All Bush has to do is say things like,"Protect America from terrorism" or "enemies of freedom" and everyone (i.e. the media) just nods their heads and agrees.

I don't know if people realize this but using the


or

smilie at the end of their posts when they are trying to prove a "point" really only makes them the "victor" in their own mind.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I read it and yea I could read your post if I wanted too.Also your post proves why you are my ignore list!jm

if he is on your ignore list then why do you respond to him yet again....come to think of it....why are you reading this now since i am SUPPOSED to also be on your ignore list. everyone knows you are lying and that we are NOT on your ignore list!PVS

EDIT - my mistake

mistake? but its true. i guess you mistook my playful sarcastic use of a smilie as a genuine attempt to seem right, but you are correct in the mentallity of those who use smilies as an attempt to solidify their arguement.

what especially annoys me is the overuse of laugh smilies and 'lol' and 'rofl' etc, when you know damn well they are not laughing.

Originally posted by PVS
i guess you mistook my playful sarcastic use of a smilie as a genuine attempt to seem right

Of course not!!

.....................so how about Cnn?

The thing about CNN I remember the most from last year was when they were doing the hurricane coverage. It was, I think, Hurricane Jeane, which was the fourth major one of the season at that point, and the meteorologist started snapping at the anchorperson because their "slide show" wasn't working properly.

It was probably their third straight day of coverage and the meterologist was at the end of her straw and definately came across as someone I would have no desire to work with. It was humorous, though.

Bill clinton lied about having sex and got impeached.
Bush lied about a war and got re-elected

Nobody has nicer suspenders than Larry King - NOBODY!

CNN sucks balls! That dude who does the reporting at the UN is a fnock-head. The advert for the show is a joke too...

The only news I do trust is the BBC, but then I don't trust them very much either...

This really isn't very difficult to sort out. The conceot that Bush lied is nowhere near as entrenched in the US as the idea Balir lied is in the UK, hence the parralel is now drawn.

Not that that makes the UK any more sensible, as it is only, basically, the desire to think Blair lied that makes people think he did- and that certainly was from a media campaign.