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No preptime. No gadgets. Discuss.

Who the hell is The Shaggy Man?

The General from the Ultramarines.

...Still don't ring any bells.

His powers are?

Superman-Level Strength and Invulnerability
Hulk-Level Healing
Immortality
Immunity to telepathy

Well, I guess that he takes it, then.

Th JLA couldnt take him down without prep. Unless Reed runs away then thinks of something, the FF are screwed.

-DM

they didn't even really take im down but they got rid of him and sent him to Jupiter.

Actually they had to send him farther than Jupiter. It was in the middle of the Astroid Belt.

Shaggy man's no Abraxis...regardless...when do u ever see a super team get blitz by an opponent with no prep time and win? Its a common plot device, super-team gets surprised by uber-powerful threat without prep time and loses/gets capture/is humiliated...followed by, Super-team gets prep/find enemies weakness/gathers their wits...then they come back and win. If u presume shaggy man can take the FF, there is no reason he couldnt take the JLA or X-Men

He DID take the JLA.

Then when he came back, they STILL couldn't defeat him. Even with Orion and Martian Manhunter. They had to throw him into the Phantom Zone.

Do you think he could take Doomsday?

It's a tough battle...but no I doubt he could. And Doomsday would be hard pressed to destroy the General. The most he could probably do is knock the General out.

You can't defeat Shaggy Man the same way twice, right? Or is this a different Shaggy Man?

It's the General. Not Doomsday. You cannot really "defeat" the General. He's a mix of Lobo and the Hulk.

Doomsday and General have pretty much the same powers Shaggy man can addapt to any attack and cant be killed also He is immune to physic attacks dont know if Doomsday is immune to psychics though.

Originally posted by Mider
Doomsday and General have pretty much the same powers Shaggy man can addapt to any attack and cant be killed also He is immune to physic attacks dont know if Doomsday is immune to psychics though.

I would imagine that he's immune to them. Manhunter couldn't do anything against him.

-DM

It's because the Shaggy Man is not biological. He's synthetic.

ok ive looked up who the shaggy man is...im totally unimpressed...a monster made of indestructable synthetic material with superhuman strength...another one dimensional joke from DC. Like i said, he's no Abraxis...the FF would destroy his plastic @ss

FF every time... No issues.

Originally posted by Wynndar
ok ive looked up who the shaggy man is...im totally unimpressed...a monster made of indestructable synthetic material with superhuman strength...another one dimensional joke from DC. Like i said, he's no Abraxis...the FF would destroy his plastic @ss

Then how did he beat down the JLA more than once?? He might be a one-trick pony, but it's a damn good trick.

-DM

How would they win if they have no prep time not even the JLA could win with out prep time and they have more members some of them major power houses with out any prep time Shaggy Man or The General would own the FF.

no..the FF would own Shaggy man...just like i said, he is no Abraxis

Why?

Wow. Totally wishing I'd heard of this guy before drafting for Evangel's tournament ended.

The JLA doesn't seem to do a whole lot of prep when it comes to JLA destroying characters.

It's like that Darrell Hammond joke about men and women getting wrong numbers. Women will check their number and dial again. Men will dial that same number and press those buttons a whole lot harder.

The JLA destroying villain comes back? ATTACK IT HARDER!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
The JLA doesn't seem to do a whole lot of prep when it comes to JLA destroying characters.

It's like that Darrell Hammond joke about men and women getting wrong numbers. Women will check their number and dial again. Men will dial that same number and press those buttons a whole lot harder.

The JLA destroying villain comes back? ATTACK IT HARDER!


Batman?

Originally posted by Wynndar
ok ive looked up who the shaggy man is...im totally unimpressed...a monster made of indestructable synthetic material with superhuman strength...another one dimensional joke from DC. Like i said, he's no Abraxis...the FF would destroy his plastic @ss

no..the FF would own Shaggy man...just like i said, he is no Abraxis

What's up with comparing him to Abraxis, like twice?

Just comparing FF villains against JLA villains...Shaggyman sounds like something a 13yr old created...he kinda reminds me of the Hulk killer humanoid.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Just comparing FF villains against JLA villains...Shaggyman sounds like something a 13yr old created...he kinda reminds me of the Hulk killer humanoid.

Hey the HKH is Shaggyman version 78 x 10 to the35

Originally posted by Wynndar
Just comparing FF villains against JLA villains...Shaggyman sounds like something a 13yr old created...he kinda reminds me of the Hulk killer humanoid.

Two words: "Mole man"

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Batman?
Guh, I thought I put the Batman line in there. "Batman makes up for the whole DC universe."

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Guh, I thought I put the Batman line in there. "Batman makes up for the whole DC universe."

Hulk Killer Humanoid is the work of pure genius.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Wow. Totally wishing I'd heard of this guy before drafting for Evangel's tournament ended.

HA! Yeah, he would have made a sweet pick. Honestly, Majestic is still probably just as good, and you're more familiar with him...but still, the obscurity and WTF?! reaction to Shaggy Man would have made it worth it.

-DM

You really need to see the general in action. Vs the FF, would be one of those situation where reed would tell them to hold him off until he came back from his lab and when he got back he would find the Sue, Johhny and been unconcious are worse. Superman needs help to take him out. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying the FF coudn't take him out, its just the general is an unstoppable force.

I've seen the Shaggy Man stomping on Superman's face. Is this really a fair fight? Unless this is current F4, where Johnny's a herald, this is a wipeout.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Shaggy man's no Abraxis...regardless...when do u ever see a super team get blitz by an opponent with no prep time and win? Its a common plot device, super-team gets surprised by uber-powerful threat without prep time and loses/gets capture/is humiliated...followed by, Super-team gets prep/find enemies weakness/gathers their wits...then they come back and win.

i dunno..... the Avengers and the New Warriors got kicked around by Lord Templar when they first fought him.... but in the middle of the fight Thor jumped Templar and beat the crap out of him causing him to run away

The Shaggy Man... ROFL

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Shaggy Man... ROFL

Yeah his Mr Bombastic

Do u realize the FF face cosmic enemies that would stomp on superman's face too...and have brains...and good writers behind them.

If the F4 had preptime, sure. But the Shaggy Man (LMAO ) is a bit much for them. Maybe Sue could trap him while Reed thinks of something.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Do u realize the FF face cosmic enemies that would stomp on superman's face too...and have brains...and good writers behind them.

Like Mole Man (ok he was created long ago) its just funny to say Mole Man

Shaggy Man is WAY funnier than Mole Man could ever be. He sounds like a child's imaginary friend.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Shaggy Man is WAY funnier than Mole Man could ever be. He sounds like a child's imaginary friend.

He sounds mor like a recording artist with such hits as "it wasn't me" and "Mr Bombastic"

...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Shaggy Man is WAY funnier than Mole Man could ever be. He sounds like a child's imaginary friend.

he sounds like he could be my sidekick

Wyndarr and Tony Stark are arguing like FF4 fanboys.
Do u realize the FF face cosmic enemies that would stomp on superman's face too...and have brains...and good writers behind them.

The FF4 stomped the heralds cause it's just cheap writing.
Surfer can own the FF4 anyday.
So can Terrax, that usually enter in slugfest mode when he meet the 4 cosmic rays changes guys.
There's always prep time or cheap explanation when the 4 guys wins.
Enemies that will stomp Superman?Superman alone can show his own with Surfer or the heralds much more than the 4.If the Thing, a poor low level Class 100 can stay fist to fist with a herald, Supes certainly can manage to kick the herald into the outerspace from the Earth.

Shaggy man's no Abraxis...regardless...when do u ever see a super team get blitz by an opponent with no prep time and win? Its a common plot device, super-team gets surprised by uber-powerful threat without prep time and loses/gets capture/is humiliated...followed by, Super-team gets prep/find enemies weakness/gathers their wits...then they come back and win.

Like sayed by Scoobless, Thor schooled with ease Lord Templar through speedblitzing him and pummeling him with Mjolnir.
The Avengers were also able to beat down Ultron without a real plan during Ultron Unlimited, they just assaulted Slorenia "aided" from O.N.U. soldiers(the truth is they were aiding the O.N.U. Troops), and then goes fist to fist with an adamantium Ultron never holding back and showing their own pretty well.

The JLA against Shaggy Man aided from the Ultramarine still managed to contain him, but considering he's a major threat and nearly unstoppable they choose to teleport him on an asteroid.

The FF4 against major enemies of the JLA or Superman will get murdered.
Manchester Black for example, or the Hyperclan, just to name a few.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
he sounds like he could be my sidekick

Originally posted by K3VIL
Wyndarr and Tony Stark are arguing like FF4 fanboys.
Do u realize the FF face cosmic enemies that would stomp on superman's face too...and have brains...and good writers behind them.

The FF4 stomped the heralds cause it's just cheap writing.
Surfer can own the FF4 anyday.
So can Terrax, that usually enter in slugfest mode when he meet the 4 cosmic rays changes guys.
There's always prep time or cheap explanation when the 4 guys wins.
Enemies that will stomp Superman?Superman alone can show his own with Surfer or the heralds much more than the 4.If the Thing, a poor low level Class 100 can stay fist to fist with a herald, Supes certainly can manage to kick the herald into the outerspace from the Earth.

Shaggy man's no Abraxis...regardless...when do u ever see a super team get blitz by an opponent with no prep time and win? Its a common plot device, super-team gets surprised by uber-powerful threat without prep time and loses/gets capture/is humiliated...followed by, Super-team gets prep/find enemies weakness/gathers their wits...then they come back and win.

Like sayed by Scoobless, Thor schooled with ease Lord Templar through speedblitzing him and pummeling him with Mjolnir.
The Avengers were also able to beat down Ultron without a real plan during Ultron Unlimited, they just assaulted Slorenia "aided" from O.N.U. soldiers(the truth is they were aiding the O.N.U. Troops), and then goes fist to fist with an adamantium Ultron never holding back and showing their own pretty well.

The JLA against Shaggy Man aided from the Ultramarine still managed to contain him, but considering he's a major threat and nearly unstoppable they choose to teleport him on an asteroid.

The FF4 against major enemies of the JLA or Superman will get murdered.
Manchester Black for example, or the Hyperclan, just to name a few. Cool

my point was that its a common plot device for a team to get surprised by an oponent and lose the first round, come back and beat that same villain...r u denying that? The fact is Shaggyman is a one dimensional character who is simply powerful....the FF have fought characters like that in the past...its not their style to just beat their opponent into submission, thats why they rnt all "virtually indestructable" or "nearly as strong as Superman" like several JLA members are described.

The FF have fought characters like the Shaggyman and more...Its just like when the Obliterator sent a life form with omnipotent strength to Earth before he tried to destroy it...yea the life form beat the Thing, Richards even said it would have easily beaten the Hulk. The FF still won.

And dont clown on the Thing for having low 100 class strength....its not brute strength that makes him the character he is...he has taken on the Destroyer successfully, its not about how strong he is. If all it took to make the Thing a better character couldnt the writers easily make him just as strong as Superman? its all arbitrary really. Do u simply like a character for their quantitative strength? "Superman is a better hero because he's stronger"...that is purely childish.

Originally posted by Wynndar
And dont clown on the Thing for having low 100 class strength....its not brute strength that makes him the character he is...he has taken on the Destroyer successfully, its not about how strong he is. If all it took to make the Thing a better character couldnt the writers easily make him just as strong as Superman? its all arbitrary really. Do u simply like a character for their quantitative strength? "Superman is a better hero because he's stronger"...that is purely childish.

he's also gots dat flyin stuff woo woo and lazur beems out of his eyes ZAP ZAP ZAP and da refrigerator breath wooooooosh

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wynndar
my point was that its a common plot device for a team to get surprised by an oponent and lose the first round, come back and beat that same villain...r u denying that? The fact is Shaggyman is a one dimensional character who is simply powerful....the FF have fought characters like that in the past...its not their style to just beat their opponent into submission, thats why they rnt all "virtually indestructable" or "nearly as strong as Superman" like several JLA members are described.

The FF have fought characters like the Shaggyman and more...Its just like when the Obliterator sent a life form with omnipotent strength to Earth before he tried to destroy it...yea the life form beat the Thing, Richards even said it would have easily beaten the Hulk. The FF still won.

And dont clown on the Thing for having low 100 class strength....its not brute strength that makes him the character he is...he has taken on the Destroyer successfully, its not about how strong he is. If all it took to make the Thing a better character couldnt the writers easily make him just as strong as Superman? its all arbitrary really. Do u simply like a character for their quantitative strength? "Superman is a better hero because he's stronger"...that is purely childish.
You've understand almost nothing of what I've sayed.
The Thing beating the destroyer is something cheap and crap.
The fighting skill cannot grant the Thing to win over guys that can stomp him with a single blow.
FF4 wins thanks to prep time, and I can tell you it's not fun.It's like Batman in the 60' with the anti-shark spray or I own everything spray, it's lame.
I like the Thing very much, but he's not a force to reckon with like Superman in terms of power.Superman in terms of being a hero, has fought even alone against guys that will use the Thing like their puppet, and won, Superman never hold back when it's time to fight evil, so does the Thing, but the fact is that Superman has beat major menaces than does of the Thing, and thanks to experience with use of his powers and using them in the right way, not just because he was a member of the Wrestling Federation and a Yancy Street Gang member.

Shaggy..... man in a couple of panels lol

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