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Bush was in Georga (part of the old USSR) when a man made it through security and threw a grenade, the Russian secret service jumped on the man (who i assume is now going to be tortured for 30 years) and the grenade (which, it turned out to be inactive DAMMIT), Bush not even noticing it happen, and wasn't aware of the threat untill HOURS LATER when he was told on Air Force One.

this begs me to ask the question, of all the presidents, why hasn't Bush been assasinated yet? He pisses off SO many people, yet lives. Kennedy was killed and he was a heaps better president. Lincoln, one of the most famous presidents was killed, so why the **** hasn't bush been blown away?

kennedy was killed because he didnt play by the rules

the real question is, why was he born?

There were attempts on Clinton too if I remember right.

Originally posted by tabby999
this begs me to ask the question, of all the presidents, why hasn't Bush been assasinated yet? He pisses off SO many people, yet lives. Kennedy was killed and he was a heaps better president. Lincoln, one of the most famous presidents was killed, so why the **** hasn't bush been blown away? Not worth the bullet?

a 30 cent rifle round is so worth the billions (i'm sure he'll crack a trillion) of dollars of wasted money/ damage he does to the world.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think Bush will be killed before his term is up.

it doesnt matter
bush doesnt matter.
during 9/11 and every other red alert, cheney was rushed to the underground bunker and nobody gave a shit about bush. he's just a
stupid monkey puppet. cheney is the president...well....emporer

Originally posted by tabby999
a 30 cent rifle round is so worth the billions (i'm sure he'll crack a trillion) of dollars of wasted money/ damage he does to the world. Well obviously it's not worth a decent grenade.

Originally posted by hh?
the real question is, why was he born?



You a stillborn child; your mother didn't want you but you were still born.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Well obviously it's not worth a decent grenade.

the article (in the paper or i'd have uped the link, sorry) said the grenade was quite old, so i'm sure the guy had best intentions for it to go off, but it still dosn't make sence, wouldn't you hunt down a soviet sniper rifle?

Originally posted by PVS
it doesnt matter
bush doesnt matter.
during 9/11 and every other red alert, cheney was rushed to the underground bunker and nobody gave a shit about bush. he's just a
stupid monkey puppet. cheney is the president...well....emporer

I think you mean emperor,

Also from what I read the grenade was pretty far away and it wasn't even live. If someone wanted to kill him I am sure they would have pulled the pin first. I also doubt that Bush will be killed before his term is up.

Hey, bastards, guess what?

No matter how much you dislike Bush, you shouldn't hope that he dies.

I don't believe he'll be assassinated, but I was wondering when the attempts on his life would begin.

I'm pretty sure that's not true; if I recall, I actually saw a videoclip of Bush going into the bunker.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
You a stillborn child; your mother didn't want you but you were still born.

cannibal ox

why must you make me drool droolio

I think that when 9/11 happen cheney went into an underground bunker and Bush went into a plane or something.. they went to two different places but they were both safe.

In answer to the original question, the reason Bush is still alive is becuase he has more protection and security than probably any one person in history, or at least the most for any president

Originally posted by KidRock
I think you mean emperor,

Also from what I read the grenade was pretty far away and it wasn't even live. If someone wanted to kill him I am sure they would have pulled the pin first. I also doubt that Bush will be killed before his term is up.

they did pull the pin, the grenade was old and didn't detonate, either that or he got sold a dud. i hope bush dies early

sh*t weres the dc sniper when you need him?

I would have flung Russkie poop at him! It's potent, and potentially lethal!

Originally posted by Deano
kennedy was killed because he didnt play by the rules

Dude shut the **** up, you're English. The thing is, there's not a definitive reason as to why Kennedy was killed.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm pretty sure that's not true; if I recall, I actually saw a videoclip of Bush going into the bunker.

it is true. during 9/11 bush was at a school reading to children, which was aired on live television. do you deny that? i hope not because its fact. cheney was grabed and dragged to the bunker in a heartbeat the second those planes were hijacked...while bush just sat there in that classroom for another 20 minutes with no effort to bring him to safety.

here is another example(fresh off the press)
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May 12th, 2005 1:09 pm
On a Bicycle in Beltsville, Blissfully Unaware

By Dana Milbank / Washington Post

When the state of red alert was declared yesterday, the vice president was evacuated from the White House and the first lady was whisked to a secure location. But no precautions were needed for President Bush.

He was out at the Patuxent Wildlife Research Center in Beltsville, riding his bicycle -- at noon on a Wednesday -- blissfully unaware. "The decision was made to inform the president upon conclusion of his bike ride," Bush press secretary Scott McClellan said later.

It was not the first time a crisis has focused uninvited attention on the Bush fitness routine. On a weekday morning in February 2001, when a gun-wielding man was shot outside the White House, it quickly emerged that Vice President Cheney was working in his office, while Bush was exercising in his residence.

Bush opponents have tried -- to no avail -- to profit politically from the president's leisure activities. Anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore poked fun at Bush's long vacation in Texas before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his admonition on the golf course to "watch this drive" after commenting on Middle East violence.

But the president, while scaling back the golf outings, has made little effort to conceal his more cardiovascular activities -- inviting reporters on occasion to go running with him and, after his knees worsened, to go mountain biking.

Bush told Runner's World magazine in 2002 that his running times "have become faster right after the war began." He added: "For me, the psychological benefit is enormous. You tend to forget everything that's going on in your mind and just concentrate on the time, distance or the sweat."

Still, McClellan couched his explanation of Bush's activity yesterday carefully, reminding listeners of Bush's trip to Europe.

"First of all, as you all are aware, the president was off-site, getting in a bike ride after returning from a four-day trip overseas," he said.

The small group of reporters who escorted Bush to Beltsville reported that they heard nothing of the plane scare until after it was over.

In follow-up answers e-mailed to reporters late in the day, McClellan said that Bush's Secret Service detail was informed soon after the incident began but that they chose not to disturb the perspiring president. After an hour and 24 minutes on the trails, Bush went back to work.

Originally posted by Pablo G
Dude shut the **** up, you're English. The thing is, there's not a definitive reason as to why Kennedy was killed.

it was a political assassination.
those who were not sure were justified in their skepticism...until the assassin was assassinated. jfk had very powerful enemies who felt that the world (and their wallets) would be better off without him.

thats why bush will be safe. he knows how to 'play ball' and his only true enemies are dirt poor and stand little chance in succeeding in their efforts to get at him. of coarse there are freak occurances (reagan shot by a lunatic obsessed with jodie foster) but for the most part, presidents are assassinated through the commands of those who share his power over america.

Originally posted by Pablo G
Dude shut the **** up, you're English. The thing is, there's not a definitive reason as to why Kennedy was killed.

That probably means that he knows more aboot it than you....

Originally posted by tabby999
and wasn't aware of the threat untill HOURS LATER when he was told on Air Force One.

Ahahaha!! What a moron.

Originally posted by PVS
thats why bush will be safe. he knows how to 'play ball' and his only true enemies are dirt poor and stand little chance in succeeding in their efforts to get at him.

there are more than just the poor who stand to lose out. when the world it f*cked because he's ok'ed not only the cutting down of a large ammout of the natural forest and the drilling for oil in nature preserves, theres gonna be alot of people who are mighty pissed of, and i'm sure its gonna be the rich as well as the poor. bush has made enemys on every level on the wealth scale. plus, what has the ammount of money you have got to do with how good you'd be at killing someone? Oswald had sweet f*ck all money, did that make the holes in JFK's head any less real?

Originally posted by Pablo G
Dude shut the **** up, you're English. The thing is, there's not a definitive reason as to why Kennedy was killed.

That is so stupid and prejudiced
Unlike some people in the states, alot of people from other countries actually know what goes on in the world, and not just their backyard.

sh*t i still cant believe the guy had a dud grenade. i hate bush period.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That probably means that he knows more aboot it than you....

shut up you damn nazi

My sincere wish was for the pin to have been pulled.

it was, the grenade didn't detonate. and Silver_tears is right, lots of americans do have a pretty narrow look at not only their country but know bugger all about whats going on in other countrys

It seems to me sometimes world leaders have this strange aura of protection around them, or they die suddenly and mysteriosley. This isn't the case all the time but you can't help but see strange timings in some world leaders death or see how freaky it is that you can't seem to kill them no matter what you do. Remember George Washington? That man was the only man left on a horse in a certain battle and he had bullet holes riddles in his cloak. An indian chief was quoted as saying George Bush was protected by "the great spirit". Adolf Hitler. For all intensive purposes that man should have died by an assassination attempt. I read reports on it and its eerie he survived. It sounded like, from what i remember, if he had been standing just a few steps away in any direction he would have died. Also there are times when they just suddenly out of nowehere die. General Patton died in a car accident like in the same time vacinity as he was supposed to soon be leaving back for America. Weird timing. Forget the president but some ex president died from a sickness he got when reading his acceptance speech in the cold. Look at Pope John, he is lucky and according to him it was devine intervention, and i woudn't disagree with him whatever your faith happens to be. For some reason there seems to be invisible hands allowing, and sometimes proventing, peoples deaths, and in my opinion, when it comes to world leaders you can almost see this expodentially and the situations are even more bizzare and happen more frequently than how they do with the genral populace. Thats my theory
This concerning to Bush? If hes meant to die he'll die, point blank. Wether the leader is good or eveil it seems like 'Fate' or 'God' or whatever you want to label makes the decisions, pulls the plug whenever it feels like it.

it always amounts to prejudice against americans.
sorry if this seems like bashing, but everyone bashing on an entire nation of people for being ignorant is a sad sad irony. you only prove your own ignorance in doing so. its no different than bashing minorities and ethnic groups. wake the f*** up and realise how stupid you're being. (notice i didnt mention names, because you know who you are)

Originally posted by Pablo G
shut up you damn nazi

Oh very mature.......you know that you talked total Bullshit.....of course there is a definite reason why Kennedy was killed....you just don'T know it.

I can'T really belive though that you wish death to Bush....c'mon now seriously he is by far not the worst president the US ever had.

i dont wish death on bush.
and not out of compassion.
look what 9/11 did in destroyng much of our civil liberties and
look how it lead to the wars we have today. can you imagine the fallout
if bush was killed, cheney was president, and had the full support of congress? as if we're not screwed enough already. no no no.
long live bush!!!

Originally posted by PVS
i dont wish death on bush.
and not out of compassion.
look what 9/11 did in destroyng much of our civil liberties and
look how it lead to the wars we have today. can you imaging the fallout
if bush was killed, cheney was president, and had the full support of congress? as if we're not screwed enough already. no no no.
long live bush!!!
Well you can see it that way too i guess

Originally posted by tabby999
there are more than just the poor who stand to lose out. when the world it f*cked because he's ok'ed not only the cutting down of a large ammout of the natural forest and the drilling for oil in nature preserves, theres gonna be alot of people who are mighty pissed of, and i'm sure its gonna be the rich as well as the poor. bush has made enemys on every level on the wealth scale. plus, what has the ammount of money you have got to do with how good you'd be at killing someone? Oswald had sweet f*ck all money, did that make the holes in JFK's head any less real?

you're preaching to the choir, buddy.

im not talking about people who know the harm he is doing and hate hi for it, i'm talking about those who would attempt to kill him. i doubt ted kennedy is going to bust in the oval office with a pistol..or any other opponent. big difference between those who hate him and sickos who would assassinate him.

and if you believe that oswald did it all alone, then i have a bridge to sell you.

...

There have been some pretty sick responses in his thread. I can't believe some of the disturbing attitudes here.

Originally posted by tabby999
Bush was in Georga (part of the old USSR) when a man made it through security and threw a grenade, the Russian secret service jumped on the man (who i assume is now going to be tortured for 30 years) and the grenade (which, it turned out to be inactive DAMMIT), Bush not even noticing it happen, and wasn't aware of the threat untill HOURS LATER when he was told on Air Force One.

this begs me to ask the question, of all the presidents, why hasn't Bush been assasinated yet? He pisses off SO many people, yet lives. Kennedy was killed and he was a heaps better president. Lincoln, one of the most famous presidents was killed, so why the **** hasn't bush been blown away?

I bet you guys are sorry it did not hit him.Shame on you.jm

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ahahaha!! What a moron.
Yes, because the fellow's incredibly poor throw and the lack of mass panic and an explosion equates to Bush being a moron.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes, because the fellow's incredibly poor throw and the lack of mass panic and an explosion equates to Bush being a moron.

Agreed, I was just going to say something about that. How is Bush a moron for not knowing about it? I really think your the moron LB.

Originally posted by tabby999
so why the **** hasn't bush been blown away?


have you ever watched the cartoon Mr. Magoo?

i think wishing for bush to die is a little extreme, though you may get your wish regardless

I feel a bet coming up

Originally posted by tabby999
Bush was in Georga (part of the old USSR) when a man made it through security and threw a grenade, the Russian secret service jumped on the man (who i assume is now going to be tortured for 30 years) and the grenade (which, it turned out to be inactive DAMMIT), Bush not even noticing it happen, and wasn't aware of the threat untill HOURS LATER when he was told on Air Force One.

this begs me to ask the question, of all the presidents, why hasn't Bush been assasinated yet? He pisses off SO many people, yet lives. Kennedy was killed and he was a heaps better president. Lincoln, one of the most famous presidents was killed, so why the **** hasn't bush been blown away? they've missed

Originally posted by Curl_Up&Dye
have you ever watched the cartoon Mr. Magoo?

spot on

Originally posted by KidRock
Agreed, I was just going to say something about that. How is Bush a moron for not knowing about it? I really think your the moron LB.
Come now, let us not name call.

Anyone who wishes that Bush die--no matter how much you dislike him--is a douche.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Come now, let us not name call.

Anyone who wishes that Bush die--no matter how much you dislike him--is a douche.

agreed....but what if i dont really care either way? if he was killed, i would feel deeply saddened for the inevitable fallout, cheney being president, the further raping of our liberty...but as for the man....i would care less :/

i know...appauling...but the truth

Originally posted by FeceMan
Hey, bastards, guess what?

No matter how much you dislike Bush, you shouldn't hope that he dies.

Why?

If your answer is 'Coz it's a life', don't bother. He doesn't give a shit about innocent human lives, why should we care about a the death of a guilty life? Especially one that will go on to commit more evils.

-AC

that would be kinda funny if bush died......cuz hes a retard and all and nobody would care except the republicans

So basically you think killing the handicapped is funny?

seriously. be kind to the developmentally disabled.
there but for the grace of god

Originally posted by PVS
agreed....but what if i dont really care either way? if he was killed, i would feel deeply saddened for the inevitable fallout, cheney being president, the further raping of our liberty...but as for the man....i would care less :/

i know...appauling...but the truth
Not caring is something completely different--I probably wouldn't really care if he died. I'd be kinda sad, but it would not really affect my day.

In an attempt to get my question answered, why are we douches if we wish death upon George Bush?

Why is wishing death upon the head a guilty soul who willingly killed thousands of innocent people, bad?

-AC

If you're against capital punishment it's sorta a contradiction. If not.. then I don't see a problem with it. God knows we all have our own little hit lists.

I'm not wishing him to be executed, I'm wishing that he die in some kind of other way.

Although, in that one case, I'd willingly let him be a victim of capital punishment. I'll take that contradiction. If it wipes the man off the face of our planet, then so be it. He killed thousands of innocent people by attacking an innocent country, he can fry for all I care.

The reason I'm against capital punishment anyway is because not only is it barbaric and dark ages-esque, nobody has that right because what if they're wrong and the guy is innocent?

Either way, my point by saying THAT is, we know Bush is guilty of mass murder, so he'd be eligible.

Bases covered.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In an attempt to get my question answered, why are we douches if we wish death upon George Bush?

Why is wishing death upon the head a guilty soul who willingly killed thousands of innocent people, bad?

-AC

So you wish death upon a guy, becuase he doesnt care if other people die? Doesn't that make you a hypocrit? an a dumbass?

Doesn't you, completely twisting and misquoting me, make you look like a idiot? Yes.

I never said he should die coz he doesn't care if others die.

I wish death on him because he purposely orchestrated the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children for no other reason than he's a c*nt.

You done?

-AC

PVS, stop acting like i'm painting the whole of america with the one brush. if you read what i've said on the previous page, you'd see that the replys you made are pretty flawed

Originally posted by tabby999
PVS, stop acting like i'm painting the whole of america with the one brush. if you read what i've said on the previous page, you'd see that the replys you made are pretty flawed

whatever. who said i was talking about you?
you deny the blind hatred of americans? then you are blind.

im glad we got rid of saddam....

and thus ended the reign of the funny hat




nah i take it back.... the hat was cute....

Yeah, you got rid of Saddam as a result of bombing and invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, besides your president insisting it did. Resulting in thousands of innocent deaths.

Then came the WMD fairytales, we all know that story.

So yeah, after all that, you got hold of one man. A man that would have been dead years ago had your president's Dad not been a greedy, self-serving, oil-hungry vulture.

-AC

hey man im not about the politics. they can do whatever they want. the important thing is...the man had a hat. although early on in my previous post i said it was funny...i later retracted my statement and insisted it was cute.
next up: since now we've eliminated the right hand owner of the previously funny hats....it's time to go for the big fish... the ultimate in previously funny hats. Fidel Castro.


and i dont think george senior was a vulture....


id say he was more of a pidgeon hawk...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Doesn't you, completely twisting and misquoting me, make you look like a idiot? Yes.

I never said he should die coz he doesn't care if others die.

I wish death on him because he purposely orchestrated the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children for no other reason than he's a c*nt.

You done?

-AC

Do you even know what you say? Go back and read through what you said. Some people, jesus.

Originally posted by KidRock
Do you even know what you say? Go back and read through what you said. Some people, jesus.

I suggest you do the same. You completely and utterly twisted my words and meaning. Yes, by the way. I am Jesus.

Originally posted by Curl_Up&Dye
hey man im not about the politics. they can do whatever they want.

Then don't speak on them.

The hat, did suck.

They did try to remedy that though, during the first Gulf 'War'. George Bush said 'Hey Saddam, how are ya? Listen, how about we get y'all a big ol' 10 gallon stetson, son? What abaht that? The catch? Ya gotta fly to Dallas.....'

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Then don't speak on them.

The hat, did suck.

They did try to remedy that though, during the first Gulf 'War'. George Bush said 'Hey Saddam, how are ya? Listen, how about we get y'all a big ol' 10 gallon stetson, son? What abaht that? The catch? Ya gotta fly to Dallas.....'

-AC



im not saying anything about politics.... this is strictly hat business....and hat business only.

seriously though, try to picture saddam hussein in a 10 gal. cowboy hat.

omfg thats sweet.
I think he could pull it off.... the bone structure in his face is very mediterranean. and we all know that mediterraneans look fabolous in 10 gallon hats.

i wish that worked though.... we will give you a hat if you fly to america and surrender... it would have been sort of like bugs bunny and elmer fudd. flippin sweet


but all that aside...you talk about all this death and destruction....its so depressing....
what you need to focus on, is the hat. it's not about george w, or the war, or the iraqi people. it's about what can we do as a nation to improve upon the current hat situation. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In an attempt to get my question answered, why are we douches if we wish death upon George Bush?

Why is wishing death upon the head a guilty soul who willingly killed thousands of innocent people, bad?

-AC

PVS answered that a few pages back...you know just imagine what the republicans could do......whenever someone say "Well but that is kind of against any human law ever written" they will just scream "Dey tuk ur President" call that person an unpatriotic bastard and send him to prison

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In an attempt to get my question answered, why are we douches if we wish death upon George Bush?

Why is wishing death upon the head a guilty soul who willingly killed thousands of innocent people, bad?

-AC
Ah, but he did not kill them himself. Groupthink + depersonalization FTW.

The fact that he didn't actually do it by his own hand just proves he is cowardly.

It doesn't make him any less responsible, he gave the order. The soldiers wouldn't have killed those people had he not done so.

So yes, why is wishing death upon the head of a guilty sould who willingly HAD thousands of innocent people killed, bad?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The fact that he didn't actually do it by his own hand just proves he is cowardly.

It doesn't make him any less responsible, he gave the order. The soldiers wouldn't have killed those people had he not done so.

So yes, why is wishing death upon the head of a guilty sould who willingly HAD thousands of innocent people killed, bad?

-AC
The likelihood of Bush pulling a Rambo and invading Iraq by himself and succeeding is, um, slim. Do you think Harry Truman should have been the one to press the button to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What about the saturation bombing of Germany? All those innocent civilians died.

We're not talking Ivan the Terrible or Vlad the Impaler here. It's not like Bush commanded that people be tortured and executed in a particularly heinous fashion for his own amusement. To wish death upon anyone is wrong, no matter how evil he or she is, though I'll admit that I have done so in the past... I believe that sometimes people must die for their crimes, but Bush is hardly a dictator who forced the US to go to war.

It's not wrong, to me anyway.

Bush is hardly a dictator who forced the US to go to war? You're serious?

How much more forced do you wanna be than invading and bombing an innocent country that had nothing to do with anything?

The man deserves death.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not wrong, to me anyway.

Bush is hardly a dictator who forced the US to go to war? You're serious?

How much more forced do you wanna be than invading and bombing an innocent country that had nothing to do with anything?

The man deserves death.

-AC
How does "invading and bombing an innocent country" equate to the United States being forced into war?

The only reason it wasn't war was because Iraq can't exactly wage one.

That's the only reason.

Either way, my question was answered in the way I predicted.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The only reason it wasn't war was because Iraq can't exactly wage one.

That's the only reason.

Either way, my question was answered in the way I predicted.

-AC
My question is still unanswered. How did Bush specifically FORCE the United States into war?

by demanding the invasion of iraq by any means...perhaps?

by misleading congress, the press, and the american public with false evidence of WMD maybe?

Originally posted by PVS
by demanding the invasion of iraq by any means...perhaps?

by misleading congress, the press, and the american public with false evidence of WMD maybe?
And yet Bush had no true power to make the United States go to war.

legally no he doesnt

in reality (you know, the world we exist in, not the rules on paper)
yes he does

Originally posted by PVS
legally no he doesnt

in reality (you know, the world we exist in, not the rules on paper)
yes he does
How?

Originally posted by FeceMan
My question is still unanswered. How did Bush specifically FORCE the United States into war?

A) It wasn't war.

B) Because most people didn't want it, he still went ahead with it. The people didn't want the 'war'.

-AC

congress-= assholes


bush= *******

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) It wasn't war.

B) Because most people didn't want it, he still went ahead with it. The people didn't want the 'war'.

-AC
But their elected representatives did.

Originally posted by FeceMan
How?

by misleading the people and making them believe that saddam had ties to al quaida, by lying about WMD's....LYING. i said this before. why do you ask me to repeat myself? unless you feel that bush should not be held responsible for his own lies?

And what exactly would you call Bush?

I'd say the President is a big elected representative.

-AC

Originally posted by FeceMan
But their elected representatives did.

no they didnt want war. wtf country do you live in?
do you pay attention to the news? did you back then?

he said that saddam was a direct threat to the u.s.
said they were smuggling enriched uranium from africa to use on us
said that saddam had direct ties to those who attacked us on 9/11
said that saddam posessed other WMD's

he worked our country into a panic with lies lies LIES and that is how he sold the war. and you're ok with that

Originally posted by PVS
by misleading the people and making them believe that saddam had ties to al quaida, by lying about WMD's....LYING. i said this before. why do you ask me to repeat myself? unless you feel that bush should not be held responsible for his own lies?
That's still not direct power; that is being devious. Though I would be willing to bet that Bush wasn't the only one in on the lies.

You're not a fan of The Dodgers by any chance are you?

-AC

Originally posted by FeceMan
That's still not direct power; that is being devious. Though I would be willing to bet that Bush wasn't the only one in on the lies.

Well technically Bush could have sent troops over to Iraq whether congress approved the "war" or not. Being the Head of the Executive Branch and Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces, the President has the ability to send troops anywhere he wants too.. whenever he wants too.

It's still up to congress to "officially" declare "war" in a legal/financial sense..but just because congress doesn't declare it or provide all the legal/financial backing, it doesn't mean that a "war" isn't going on. And based on what I know about Bush, he would have sent Troops over to Iraq anyway..WITHOUT Congress's approval.

I don't believe that Bush purposely tried to mislead the people. You have to consider that he doesn't have one of the most analytical, detail oriented minds, and he bases many of his choices on his personal beliefs/circumstances, rather than the facts presented before him.

Anyway..as many have pointed out..the American people were mislead(this includes Congress) about the reasons as to why we went to war. The original "FACTS" behind the US going to war stated by the BUSH administration were all based on erroneous information, thus the war was essentially started under false pretenses.

As far as the bomb incident goes, I have to say that I'm quite glad no one was hurt during the whole situation. The president represents the American people, and any action against him reflects how the rest of the world feels about the US. Regardless of my personal beliefs about his ideologies and policies, I'm glad nothing came of the incident. For all we know, if anything did happen to our President..that would have been the beginning of World War III...

I express my utmost regret that the grenade was only a dud.

well, i was away for a day and the thread takes of, i had some reading to do, well done guys.

Originally posted by PVS
whatever. who said i was talking about you?
you deny the blind hatred of americans? then you are blind.

i know you were talking about me because what you said was a direct reply to my comments. and i never once said anything about the blind hatered of americans. and i while some people do hate america without knowing the facts, i think people who know what their talking about dont hate the people, only there president and thick as shit government