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Who would win?

Vader would use the Force to calm him down reslulting in Hulk turning back into Banner then Vader slices his head off.

Its rather simple.

He can't do that

hulk <-----simple minded

vador <------adept at mind trickery


yes...it apparently IS that simple....

"Bruce, I am your father."
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

He can force throw the lightsaber with blinding speed and accuracy decapitating the hulk. Darth Vader is very very very watered down in the old movies. And you wouldn't believe me now but I'll tell you anyway
I'm a huge hulk fan. I saw the movie bout five times. Vader's comp would be more like..... Silver Surfer. Really.

that's 5 times in the theater

mwhahahahahaha I have you now hulk. Doh I mean Bruce No i mean Hulk. starwarsgiljotiini and thats how hulk dies.

great story......lol

Originally posted by The MISTER
He can force throw the lightsaber with blinding speed and accuracy decapitating the hulk. Darth Vader is very very very watered down in the old movies. And you wouldn't believe me now but I'll tell you anyway
I'm a huge hulk fan. I saw the movie bout five times. Vader's comp would be more like..... Silver Surfer. Really.

that's 5 times in the theater

I lost you at the last sentence

he was just making a point of how big a hulk fan he is since he went to the theatre to see the movie 5 times.....an extremely impressive feat if i may say so myself....I could barely stomach it once....and even then that was painful.

The movie wasn't that bad. N e ways......

ehhhh....it was bad

Originally posted by The MISTER
He can force throw the lightsaber with blinding speed and accuracy decapitating the hulk. Darth Vader is very very very watered down in the old movies. And you wouldn't believe me now but I'll tell you anyway
I'm a huge hulk fan. I saw the movie bout five times. Vader's comp would be more like..... Silver Surfer. Really.

that's 5 times in the theater

If it were that easy, it would have been done in the past. I doubt the light saber would do much more than sear his skin. He's taken hits from beams that cut adamantium with minimal damage. I doubt a light saber is much more potent.


The movie had almost nothing to do with the comic book, and there was way to much explaining. Saying that it sucked balls is being generous.

mind trick = over.....

hell...vador doesn't even need mind tricks to use on hulk....all he needs is to light up his sabre and twirl it around in circles to fascinate and calm the hulk down.....if iron fist did it with his glowing hands why couldn't vador do it with a glowing rod....at least the rod has sound fx...

lmao he did? Never realized Savage Hulk was that gullible.

hell yeah he did....

"Never realized Savage Hulk was that gullible"

lol....please tell him your his friend and give him a lollipop and you basically got the strongest guy in the world eating out of the palm of your hand....lol......remember when he thought wolverine was his buddy even after wolvie attacked him?

Originally posted by jinzin
hell yeah he did....

"Never realized Savage Hulk was that gullible"

lol....please tell him your his friend and give him a lollipop and you basically got the strongest guy in the world eating out of the palm of your hand....lol......remember when he though wolverine was his buddy even after wolvie attacked him?

Still, being distracted by pretty lights? That takes a pretty low IQ.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Still, being distracted by pretty lights? That takes a pretty low IQ.
lol!
Maybe should start a Hulk vs. a lava lamp thread.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If it were that easy, it would have been done in the past. I doubt the light saber would do much more than sear his skin. He's taken hits from beams that cut adamantium with minimal damage. I doubt a light saber is much more potent.


The movie had almost nothing to do with the comic book, and there was way to much explaining. Saying that it sucked balls is being generous.

true

"Maybe should start a Hulk vs. a lava lamp thread"

lol a real battle of the wits eh?

Originally posted by jinzin
"Maybe should start a Hulk vs. a lava lamp thread"

lol a real battle of the wits eh?


lol

Hulk takes Vader's head off. Mind trick? How does he even know Hulk's origin? And please, Hulk isn't easily mindcontrolled; Vader ain't Xavier or Jean.

dude he doesn't need to know hulk's origin to figure out that hulk gets madder and stronger cause hulk says that in nearly every damn fight. secondly he doesn't need to know hulks origin to figure out that hulk is big and scary and that a physical confrontation isn't a good idea.....hence mind trick....it's persuasion....very effective persuasion...not control.

He does have a point, Beyonder.

thankyee kindly.

Originally posted by jinzin
dude he doesn't need to know hulk's origin to figure out that hulk gets madder and stronger cause hulk says that in nearly every damn fight. secondly he doesn't need to know hulks origin to figure out that hulk is big and scary and that a physical confrontation isn't a good idea.....hence mind trick....it's persuasion....very effective persuasion...not control.

Maybe Leader should have tried that shit?

Please, it's a fight. Hulk says alot of things about himself. But he usually smacks people around while saying stuff like that.

Hulk is big and scary and that a physical confrontation isn't a good idea? So Vader's afraid now of big, scary people? Please, what happened to Vader's a badass and doesn't fear anything?

Persuasion? That's right after Hulk knocks his brains out and proclaims himself the strongest there is.

vader's not afraid of anything? ummmm where did you get that from?
lol
the guy's not stupid......he can figure out easily enough whether or not his lightsaber can cut into hulk.....while avoid blows at the same time....luke cage was running circles around hulk....vader shouldn't have a problem...hell, he doesn't even need to fight the guy.....he can just throw him back with the force.....

Originally posted by jinzin
vader's not afraid of anything? ummmm where did you get that from?
lol
the guy's not stupid......he can figure out easily enough whether or not his lightsaber can cut into hulk.....while avoid blows at the same time....luke cage was running circles around hulk....vader shouldn't have a problem...hell, he doesn't even need to fight the guy.....he can just throw him back with the force.....

When has Vader feared something?

Figure out easily? ....riiiiight. He doesn't know anything except Hulk's bigger than him. What's different between Hulk and every other huge aliens in the SW universe? I guess Vader would figure that he can't cut Jabba either since Jabba's big.

He doesn't know that his saber can't cut Hulk, nor that Hulk is class 100.

As for Cage, Hulk's tagged Spidey before. Vader ain't that fast.

"When has Vader feared something?"

seemed pretty afraid of the emporer....

"Figure out easily?"

are you seriously implying that he can't? lol....all he has to do is swipe his damn lightsaber....if it don't work it don't work.....it's a fairly simple concept.....lol

"He doesn't know that his saber can't cut Hulk, nor that Hulk is class 100"

dude he doesn't need to know hulk strength class to know that all those muscles are gonna do some damage if they get close enough to make contact......and yeah he can figure out his lightsaber can't cut hulk.....like I said it only takes one good swing to figure that out...but since adamantium can cut into hulk i think a lightsaber can do just as well.......

"As for Cage, Hulk's tagged Spidey before. Vader ain't that fast."

I'm saying he's fast enough to get the **** out if one swing with the old lightsaber doesn't do the trick......both cage and iron fist can dance around hulk easily enough.....so can vader...another point is...he doesn't have to...he can just push hulk away...

this thread completely hinges on whether a lightsaber can damage hulk.

if yes, vader.

if no, hulk.

dude....if no....force.....vader still wins...

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
this thread completely hinges on whether a lightsaber can damage hulk.

if yes, vader.

if no, hulk.

It won't. Vader can still win.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If it were that easy, it would have been done in the past. I doubt the light saber would do much more than sear his skin. He's taken hits from beams that cut adamantium with minimal damage. I doubt a light saber is much more potent.


The movie had almost nothing to do with the comic book, and there was way to much explaining. Saying that it sucked balls is being generous.

what force powers are gonna help against the hulk?

The Force is with you.

But hulk wins

how does hulk win? esp when he can't even close ground if vader doesn't want him to.....or breath if vador doesn't want him to....or be angry if vader doesn't want him to?

What does the force-choke do? Hulk has got some pretty powerful lungs. Strongest lungs there are. His neck is just as strong. Squeezing his throat isn't going to work

he doesn't even need to force choke him...just toss him into a lake and keep him there via force.....

Originally posted by jinzin
he doesn't even need to force choke him...just toss him into a lake and keep him there via force..... Vader surely isn't powerful enough to hold the Hulk down indefinitely.

long enough to drown him....wolverine nearly did it by dropping some rocks on him......in fact the only reason he got out was because....he had outside help that unleashed all his rage and allowed him to overcome his panic....vader can even drop rocks on him if he wants to...and don't forget if that doesn't work he can use his lightsaber...which we don't know whether or not won't work against hulk...and IF THAT DOESN'T WORK....mind tricks....

It takes a long time to drown Hulk. A very very long time. He's fought Namor for hours upon hours while underwater.

Wolverine dropped rocks on Hulk to hold him underwater? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

yup...and hulk almost drowned within minutes....even so vader has option after option to fall back on......watch star wars clone wars and look at the mace windu fight to see what a jedi master can do with the force than amplfy that by 2 or 3 and then you see the ballpark that vader's working with....

Hulk can no onger be drowned...it was proven about four issues ago

oh really? what issue....the last ones I picked up were inc hulk tempest fugit parts 3 and 4.....

Part one...it opens with him walking on the ocean floor...He kills a great white and a giant squid. Banner later explains the Hulk can no longer be drowned and his lungs fill with fluid to counter pressure or something...i cant give an exact quote cuz i dont own it.
http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=page3&issue=41321098996%2077

Originally posted by jinzin
oh really? what issue....the last ones I picked up were inc hulk tempest fugit parts 3 and 4.....

Did you read the last one? Betty isn't dead.

well all this tempest fugit stuff may just be a product of the hulks own craziness....not that it's a great story....but in the same sotry arch hulk made fing fang foom beg for his life before he killed him and wolverine was cutting him up something fierce....

Originally posted by jinzin
how does hulk win? esp when he can't even close ground if vader doesn't want him to.....or breath if vador doesn't want him to....or be angry if vader doesn't want him to?

Are you serious? Hulk ain't slow. The guy can move more than a mile just in one leap. He jumps at Vader and Vader might just knocked out.

Vader might try a choke hold but it ain't gonna work. Hulk can thunder clap in midair and knock out Vader. Vader doesn't know what Hulk can do. Hulk, however, doesn't care about Vader's ability. One doesn't know, the other really doesn't care. Alot of things Vader would do that won't work or barely hurts Hulk; a punch or thunder clap from Hulk would knock out or kill Vader.

i like how you simply assume that anything vader tries against hulk simply "won't work"......why?...."durrrrrrrr cause it's the hulk".

hulks fast enough to leap up and land on vader without either getting stopped or vader moving out of the way even though vader's fast enough to deflect lazer blasts with his hands?
riiiiight shifty

a thunder clap is going to KO vader because? I mean it didn't KO venom...or spiderman or suffered from hightened senses....or wolverine who had even more hightened senses...but it's gonna KO vader why again?

pffft.....lol

one punch that hulk won't land if vader doesn't ALLOW it to happen.....vader has waaaaay too much power and versatility goin for him.

Hulk isn't fast. Hulk is VERY fast.

Hulk has defeated much much more dangerous enemies than Darth Vader (who is getting stronger every single minute I sometimes think).

Can't wait for the Darth Vader vs Thanos & Loki thread.

and hulk's been downed by farrrr less impressive oppenents that vader too....

? Vader doesnt have any impressive opponents

lol....not in the movies anyways....

I like the new Cartoon Network Star Wars show. Made me respect the Jedis. Too bad the movies can't compare....

yea i was watching it las night....pretty sweet...is that Sith General with the white armor and insect like body going to be in episode three?

general grevious....yes he is...isn't that freakin awesome?!?!

Well maybe that's how the Jedis and Siths really are. The budget in the movie couldn't withstand a fight like that.

plus when the original movie was made think of the FX limitations.....

FX and budget.

For all those how think Vader would win, tell me.... What can Vader do that can actaully hurt Hulk. Force push, pull, lightling, choke.. Hulk will wouldnt even notice he's being hurt.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If it were that easy, it would have been done in the past. I doubt the light saber would do much more than sear his skin. He's taken hits from beams that cut adamantium with minimal damage. I doubt a light saber is much more potent.


The movie had almost nothing to do with the comic book, and there was way to much explaining. Saying that it sucked balls is being generous.
I Truly don't know whether or not the lightsaber would slice through adamantium like a hot knife through butter or not. Only a true fan would know exactly so I'll wait to see if anyone is sure. If the lightsaber won't work can he levitate and then cut off his air for a couple hours? It's just my educated guess but I believe that all Jedis are supposed to be masters of all forms of combat. The hulk is far more powerful than any opponent I've seen a jedi fight so if the lightsaber can't decapitate him then I don't know enough about vader to tell if he can slay the hulk with some other tactic.

I thought the movie could have been a whole lot worse. And it could have been. think of the movie steel and you get my drift. A could have tried making a human play the hulk or have him hurt by bullets. They could have had him strain to lift a car. (see what I mean) At least the Hulk didn't look as phony as he could have.

just do me a favor......watch clone wars.....watch the whole thing to get an idea of real jedi's at work.........

also about the lightsaber thing....the only reason that I feel that it can't go through adamantium is because of the same reason kitty can't phase through it.....it's too damned dense....but in the lightsabers defense against the hulk...... in the SW ATAT's were made with especially dense armor....armor capible of taking multiple assaults from constant air raids without even showing so much as a scratch.....however where multiple kinds of fire power failed against them.....the lightsaber went through it easily....in fact.....at least in the star wars universe....when was the last time a lightsaber had trouble cutting through ANYTHING?...that wasn't another lightsaber?....get what I'm sayin.....?

There is that one black metal. Forgot what it was called. But i think it narturally retains the force or something, so It's kinda magical.

sorry double post.

yeah we're not talking about mystical though....

Yeah, I know, I'm not taking sides here. In fact I was just kinda hoping someone would tell me the name of the metal, 'cause it's bothering me that I can't remember.

Mind trick seems possible, but Hulk's head is so screwy it'd take a while to actually take him down with it.
Especially when all he needs is one punch to end the deal......

I disagree with Darth's force being able to hold Hulk back, it'll slow him but definatly not hold him back.

If its one on one in an octagon, Hulk everytime.
Vader needs special circumstances to actually win this, i.e water, boulders...ect.

Hulk could get at him IMO.

VADER feel the force

If vader can take out The ENTRIE Jedi order! One green bastard isnt exactly going to be a problem!!!! lolololol

Originally posted by Ultimatespider
If vader can take out The ENTRIE Jedi order! One green bastard isnt exactly going to be a problem!!!! lolololol

When the hell did he do that? And under what circumstances? Hulk's given the Avengers a hard time, smacked Thor around before as well.

Vader has never taken out all the jedi. His troops killed the most.

why do hulk fans think big muscles are exactly gonna help him from getting "forced" outa the stratosphere........?

Originally posted by jinzin
why do hulk fans think big muscles are exactly gonna help him from getting "forced" outa the stratosphere........?
Man aren't you one of the guy's that think's Batman can take the hulk? Obvious answer to your question.. Big fans represent!

Wasnt there already an arguement about the fact... Wolverines skeleton, admantium... survived the millions of degress of the suns temp... so how would a 12,000 degree lightsaber cut through admantium?

Also, I thinks Hulks lungs are just about as tough as his skin and everything else, so vader's lil' strangle, wont even be able to clamp his lungs shut cause' of how strong they technically are.

Also, Darth Vader isnt even "super" one punch from hulk would bus...

Hang on... If the force has no boundaries, cant Vader just lift Hulk up off the ground and just hang him there?

Light sabers can cut thru anything even admantium. It will not cut thru like butter, but given time it could cut thru (it might take a couple of hours). As far as decapitating hulk, anyone can do it with sufficient force and speed. A blade of steel can cut almost anything if it is forged to be a molecule wide. And we all know that a light saber and adamantium is far more dangerous. It all depends who is holding the blade. The average human couldn't do it. And about vader taking out the entire jedi order. He is powerful, but yoda, mace, and obi wan could have easily defeated him in one on one combat. So he is not that great. And hulk is. unfortunately he has hulk at a disadvantage. He is faster and way more cunning.

Ok... What happened to admantium being indestructible?

Originally posted by ebonyblade1
Light sabers can cut thru anything even admantium. It will not cut thru like butter, but given time it could cut thru (it might take a couple of hours).
You don't know that, and can't prove it either. So it's hardly a valid point.

Are you saying Darth Vader is faster ? If so, no way. Hulk is very fast, and can be cunning too by the way.

Originally posted by ebonyblade1
Light sabers can cut thru anything even admantium.

Based on what?

watch the freaking animated clone wars.....a very good demonstration of exactly how fast the jedis are depicted in their comic book counter parts......vader can be hella fast if he wants to be.......

Mace Windu was one bad mothaf*cka in the Clone Wars cartoon series.

Vader would make some crap comment about how Hulk and his infinite rage would be a perfect tool of the darkside.

Hulk would rebuttle with "Hulk smash!" and Vader would need alot more then a resporator to keep his ass alive lol.

Light sabers took 10 minutes trying to cut through a steel door!
Please, light sabres aren't cutting through adamantium OR hulks skin.

Originally posted by long pig
Light sabers took 10 minutes trying to cut through a steel door!
Please, light sabres aren't cutting through adamantium OR hulks skin.
Ten minutes?

Watch the movie again and count how long it takes to cut the door. That door was about 5ft. thick of solid steel.

And why would you assume adamantium is harder than metal used to construct starships?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
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Ten minutes?

Watch the movie again and count how long it takes to cut the door. That door was about 5ft. thick of solid steel.

And why would you assume adamantium is harder than metal used to construct starships?

Because adamantium is harder. Wonderman and Thor have had a hard time with Ultron due to his adamantium. You know Thor right? Class 100 brick with an enchanted hammer? Ultron takes shots from Thor.

Some starship metal don't mean jack to adamantium.

in the MU maybe.....

lol...that's all I've been sayin juggs...now multiply that force control and power 2 or 3 fold.....hulk dies........it's not even funny...

Originally posted by Beyonder
Ultron takes shots from Thor.

Does Thor have a lightsaber?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Does Thor have a lightsaber?

Lightsaber > Mjlnornir + Class 100 strength

Lightsabers are almost as overrated as Jedis themselves.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Lightsaber > Mjlnornir + Class 100 strength

Thats not what I am saying.

In all logic it seems that a weapon created by advanced technology and made of pure energy that can cut through any material in THEIR own universe would cut through a metal made by earthlings.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Thats not what I am saying.

In all logic it seems that a weapon created by advanced technology and made of pure energy that can cut through any material in THEIR own universe would cut though a metal made by earthlings.

You'd think. But then again, a back water planet in a universe full of life, and yet said planet - named Earth - has produce beings on the level of gods and low level cosmic.

Franklin Richards
Set
Chthon
Demigurge
Demogorge
The

Cable
Nate
Magneto

You shouldn't be surprised by this. Furthermore, both universe are different. Marvel is just more powerful in terms of almost everything.

So its like this.

Marvel Earth technology > Star Wars intergalactic technology

Got it.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Thats not what I am saying.

In all logic it seems that a weapon created by advanced technology and made of pure energy that can cut through any material in THEIR own universe would cut through a metal made by earthlings.

Mjlnornir is stronger than a lightsaber

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So its like this.

Marvel Earth technology > Star Wars intergalactic technology

Got it.

You'd be surprised. I mean Him and Her were created on Earth by the hive. Him gave Thor trouble. Her ressurected Him/Warlock.

To get techinchal the lightsaber is not composed of "pure energy", scientificaly it would be more feesible if it were generated in that small (Though it raises the question of how it's able to contain it in such a small device but that's another story..) container as a nuclear power source. Generated by positive neutrons to create an almost solid being of nuclear energy. Had it been "pure light" it would have a flash at the end and would escape the saber immideatly because only the density of a blackhole can contain light so far as we know to exsist.

This being the case, how would The Hulk fare against a nuclear sword? Pretty well probably, especialy considering he's the result of a radiation test gone awry..

Vader's fighting skills and telekenetick powers won't save him for very long. There is just no logical explanation to have Anakin win this one.

lightsabers are powered by crystals....it's not a nuclear power source....wtf?

and hulk's afraid of a bombs....guess your nuke theory goes out the window anyways...

Originally posted by jinzin
and hulk's afraid of a bombs....guess your nuke theory goes out the window anyways...

When was Hulk afraid of a bomb? Savage Hulk doesn't fear anything.

Hulk has been hit by several nuclear bombs on more than one occasion. There is no "nuke theory."

A lightsaber isn't going to cut Hulk's skin, much less his flesh or bone, or adamantium either. Vader's best bet is to use the trick that Iron Fist did to calm Hulk down, if he isn't too arrogant to do so, which will immediately result in him getting smashed.

^ So true

meastro hulk.....a bombs were coming......hulk beat thor who wanted to fight him and then thrw him away for his own saftey then ran like hell....

Originally posted by Big Evil
To get techinchal the lightsaber is not composed of "pure energy", scientificaly it would be more feesible if it were generated in that small (Though it raises the question of how it's able to contain it in such a small device but that's another story..) container as a nuclear power source. Generated by positive neutrons to create an almost solid being of nuclear energy. Had it been "pure light" it would have a flash at the end and would escape the saber immideatly because only the density of a blackhole can contain light so far as we know to exsist.

This being the case, how would The Hulk fare against a nuclear sword? Pretty well probably, especialy considering he's the result of a radiation test gone awry..

Vader's fighting skills and telekenetick powers won't save him for very long. There is just no logical explanation to have Anakin win this one.

its not nuclear energy...its arcs of gravitational energy

Originally posted by jinzin
meastro hulk.....a bombs were coming......hulk beat thor who wanted to fight him and then thrw him away for his own saftey then ran like hell....

I assumed this was Savage Hulk. Maestro is just an amped up Professor Hulk. Both suffer from low durability. If Doc Ock could beat him unconcious, I wouldn't be suprised if he ran from a nuke.

Then again, Maestro has survived countless nuclear blasts. What issue are you referring to?

don't remember the issue number...........I'll look for it though....

Vader has control over kinesis itself. Pick Hulk up, hold him there. Drink tea. Force crush him into a preztel.

apparently hulk fasns think big muscles can prevent him from that...

Vader had alot of powers at His disposal people think that The Force just moves thing around and shit no if your a high level Jedi or Sith you can make clones of yourself, shoot lightning, deflect it, make Force storms, thought bombs, destroy spirits, force fields, strip powers, super speed, if there are other Siths present they can pool there powers together.

Originally posted by Darth Trinew
Vader has control over kinesis itself. Pick Hulk up, hold him there. Drink tea. Force crush him into a preztel.

Hulk surely isn't strong enough to resist that.

It would probably cause Vader to have a stroke.

Originally posted by Mider
Vader had alot of powers at His disposal people think that The Force just moves thing around and shit no if your a high level Jedi or Sith you can make clones of yourself, shoot lightning, deflect it, make Force storms, thought bombs, destroy spirits, force fields, strip powers, super speed, if there are other Siths present they can pool there powers together.

Has Vader done any of this?

Who said this was Hulk vs the Sith?

Originally posted by jinzin
apparently hulk fasns think big muscles can prevent him from that...

Exactly.

Point is, unless Vader comes up with some mind trick, he's going to get crushed.

Originally posted by Darth Trinew
Vader has control over kinesis itself. Pick Hulk up, hold him there. Drink tea. Force crush him into a preztel.

Hulk thunder claps while in the air. Vader is knocked the f#ck out.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Hulk thunder claps while in the air. Vader is knocked the f#ck out.
No. He will "sense" Hulk will do that (don't ask me how lol).

Originally posted by Beyonder
Hulk thunder claps while in the air. Vader is knocked the f#ck out.

good one

you guys are obviously lacking in true knowledge of the force all the powers mider posted about are true.......farrrr lower lever jedi's and siths than vader have used them......hell even

spoiler:







darth sidious admitted vader would grow to be stronger than himself and yoda both











....no reason to think vader isn't capible as well.

Originally posted by jinzin
spoiler:

darth sidious admitted vader would grow to be stronger than himself and yoda both

....no reason to think vader isn't capible as well.

Um okay. The Emporer's Force Lightning f#cked up Vader, who had to sacrifice himself to take out the Emporer. So much for Vader being stronger.

Yoda looked impressive in ROTS.

He had Sidious beat.

"The Emporer's Force Lightning f#cked up Vader, who had to sacrifice himself to take out the Emporer. So much for Vader being stronger."

oh yes....after he was fighting his son in a lightsaber duel for a good 15 to 20 minutes.....and had his hand chopped off........pffft....really..... hell watch what the emperors own lighting does to hiim when it's nullified.......vader didn't even have the luxury of a lightsaber....

Originally posted by jinzin
"The Emporer's Force Lightning f#cked up Vader, who had to sacrifice himself to take out the Emporer. So much for Vader being stronger."

oh yes....after he was fighting his son in a lightsaber duel for a good 15 to 20 minutes.....and had his hand chopped off........pffft....really..... hell watch what the emperors own lighting does to hiim when it's nullified.......vader didn't even have the luxury of a lightsaber....

What are you talking about? Vader has two hands. He could blocked it with the other one.

blocked it? ...........with what exactly?

Originally posted by jinzin
blocked it? ...........with what exactly?

His hand. Like the way most SW fans say he could since he blocked Han's blaster.

blaster fire <emperors force lightning


aside from that the lightning was surging over his entire body it wasn't on concentrated blast like blasters produce.....it was constant.....and it wasn't coming at him from any one direction like when yoda deflected it....even when he did....he needed two hands...

Originally posted by jinzin
blaster fire <emperors force lightning


aside from that the lightning was surging over his entire body it wasn't on concentrated blast like blasters produce.....it was constant.....and it wasn't coming at him from any one direction like when yoda deflected it....even when he did....he needed two hands... He was also lifting the Emporer over his head. . thats a two handed effort. . .

nah he lifted him with one hand and stablized with his stump....I've done the same thing using a fist......

You guys are going off in tangent

Originally posted by jinzin
nah he lifted him with one hand and stablized with his stump....I've done the same thing using a fist...... Ah, well . . .

Vader acted impulsivly out of a deisre to save his son. . . had he not been acting on emotion he probably would have . . . well probably still acted as the lapdog for Palpatine. . . But my point is he wasn't thinking rationally when he attacked.

that was your point?....wow I must have seriously missed a HUUUUUGE leap in logic.....no offense.....i agree with you.....but it just doesn't look like that's what your point was....

Originally posted by jinzin
that was your point?....wow I must have seriously missed a HUUUUUGE leap in logic.....no offense.....i agree with you.....but it just doesn't look like that's what your point was.... Uh. . the not thinking rationally point only came up in my last post. Sorry if that's confusing. ^_^;;

lol...it's cool

Hulk duznt av anythin to block the saber with so he would be VERY vunerable to Lightsaber!!!

Interesting

Vader takes this.

The Force flows through life and everything around it. Vader would be able to use and manipulate the life force within the Hulk to his advantage. This would make Vader's force choke and push as strong as the Hulk's current state also making the Lightsword just as strong. Vader's other Jedi skills such as speed, precognition, and mind manipulation would also increase. This would be too much for the Hulk to handle. Plus Vader could just calm the Hulk. Using the life force within the Hulk, Vader could force choke the Hulk infinitely, force push him into space, plus Vader would have a very very very strong punch.

hulk kills vader, nuff said.

Hulk would kill the entire Jedi order by himself. He would pick up the Jedi temple and throw it into the coruscant star.

Originally posted by playa1258
Hulk would kill the entire Jedi order by himself. He would pick up the Jedi temple and throw it into the coruscant star.

*sigh*

Also, closing.