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It was a momentous moment when Emperor Palpatine announced Order 66 throughout the Universe.

My theory is that the Clonetroopers had this inner built mechanism which made them pledge their allegiance to the Emperor when he activated the Order 66 code.

Yes. They were built to be obedient, built for this express purpose in mind. They probably were hardwired to do it.

Thats exactly it. When they were being built/cloned/ what have you.. in addition to having growth acceleration & obediance instilled, they also had this code imbedded

Does someone already have footage of order 66 :P

Originally posted by Wat Tambor
Does someone already have footage of order 66 :P

Go see the movie and then wait for the DVD.

Seeing this in the movie actually brought tears to my eyes...

bobafett81: So it was a sort of latent subliminal programming? That makes sense to me.

Originally posted by Wat Tambor
Does someone already have footage of order 66 :P

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"You'll find they are totally obedient, taking any order without question. We modified their genetic structure to make them less independent than the original host." - Lama Su, Attack of the Clones

You must remember these are still human beings - not robots.
Order 66 is not "programmed" into them.
It is still just an order, from the head of the Republic to his grunts.
But the clones are genetically bred to be utterly obedient.

66 is the number of the devil!!!!!!!!!

No, it isn't.

Your missing a vital digit

you are 600 short of the number some claim to be the number of the beast.

well if the clones are genetically altered (We modified their genetic structure ) they are more or less programmed

my first reaction to order 66 was, Chicago to LA here we come, but then it struck me. Duh that was route 66,.....bye bye Jedi

And they were so very quickly wiped out. Showing another OB1 lie: "He helped hunt down and destroy the jedi knights." Very little hunting there, peeps.

but how do the Clones know Palpatine??
because Commander Cody says "it will be done my lord"

and I think the clones are smart enough not to take orders from some one they don't know.

Probably programmed that way. After all, the Jedi are not their boss.

Originally posted by LightSaber_Part
but how do the Clones know Palpatine??
because Commander Cody says "it will be done my lord"

and I think the clones are smart enough not to take orders from some one they don't know.

He is the Supreme Chancellor of the entire galaxy.

Meh, kinda works as evidence for Palps placing the order for the clones really doesn't it...

"They are totally obedient taking any order without question." - Lama Su

that might explain it

The whole Order 66 Scene and the Jedi being called was Very Emotional

If the clones are not genetically programmed, then why do they say "It will be done, MY LORD." Where did that come from? They've never called him lord before..

BTW, semi-off topic-- but it was so funny when Mace said to Palps: "You're under arrest... My lord!"

just shows who`s been in control of the situation from the begining

And who ordered the clones in the first place.

Sidious/Dooku

Erm.... yes, of course.

I loved this whole montage.. I thought it was really well done and the music was excellent!

But if you notice, some of the Jedi could still be alive. Like Stass Allie (sp.?). You see the bike wreck, but she is not in the bike.

I could swear you see her being flung OFF the bike into something, though.

Originally posted by queeq
And they were so very quickly wiped out. Showing another OB1 lie: "He helped hunt down and destroy the jedi knights." Very little hunting there, peeps.

well he definantly helped destroy them with his actions.. and they dont know exactly who is dead after the movie, it seems like there are likely some stragglers that he will have to hunt down and murder.. they might not even ever find out it was anakin.

I thought the scene was very emotional... the music was excellent

I agree, the music was a lot better than AOTC, the weaker brother music wise in the whole series.

Originally posted by queeq
And they were so very quickly wiped out. Showing another OB1 lie: "He helped hunt down and destroy the jedi knights." Very little hunting there, peeps.
no. As said by Bail: they don't know who survived and where they are, considering they say after 19 years that Vader is now the only one of that "sad religion", it can very well be that he indeed did hunt down and destroy the last of the jedi knights but that it happens between the movies

Absolutely- odd line for you to say, queeq; obviously that happens subsequently.

Hi, Ush.

Don't the clones have ANY feelings...can they discern right from wrong?? At the very least one clone did say:"I'm sorry"...But still...any sign of friendship...or doing what's right???

why should they? they're raised to obey, not to feel

They ARE humans though, shouldn't they know a little about right form wrong??

right and wrong is taught by education, if those from Kamino doesn't learn it to them, they don't

Smod> Clones were grown to fight, to kill, to obey. I assume that the most regular of the Clones would have been modified further than, say, Commanders, so that they would be less ceseptible to "feeling" for those that they kill.

BTW> Which Commander says, "I'm sorry"?

Originally posted by DCLXVI
Smod> Clones were grown to fight, to kill, to obey. I assume that the most regular of the Clones would have been modified further than, say, Commanders, so that they would be less ceseptible to "feeling" for those that they kill.

BTW> Which Commander says, "I'm sorry"?

Oh, I see....

The man that adopts Leia, (I forgot his name) When he flies back to the temple(?) He gets out of his ship and is confronted by clone/storm troopers...They raise they're weapons and prepare to fire, he questions them, and the trooper tells him to leave (mercy?) then says "I'm sorry_____"

No it wasnt mercy really, Bail wasnt a Jedi so he did nothing to deserve being killed.

Ah....thanks Smod.

astrofan428> The Clones probably rationalized, (or Palpy said to them that), if any witnesses came close to the Temple while enacting Order 66, to kill them before they could escape and spread sympathy for the Jedi....

does anyone know what song was playing during the order 66 scene??

something I read in a review somewhere, Lucas edited the scene in the Godfather where all the mob bosses are taken care of during the baptism scene. sound familiar?

Obi Wan reprogramed the signal so that the remaining Jedi will stay away. That scene was in there for a reason. I think that the TV series will show some of the jedi that survived being hunt down by Vader.

Probably, but I hope it doesn't look like crap, and each episode is just another Jedi dead...

Does any one here think that the Jedi could have survived Order 66 by using a Jedi mind trick the same way Old Ben did on Tattoine ?

Not on the Commanders!

And if they were shooting at the Jedi, methinks they didn't have time to go "You don't want to kill me..." *swish of the hand, flick of the wrist, snap snap* "...you are all bunny rabbits."

seriously

they could have 'flied', swayed their hand and said "I am not the Jedi you are looking for"

Doubtful....they were caught completely off guard for one thing. For another, that's a damn lot of clones they'd have had to mind trick.

Yeah it would have to be done to hundreds of clones at once to work, not even Yoda could manage that.

i was just sad to see aayla get gunned down.
mmmm...twi'lek....

Originally posted by mysterio69
i was just sad to see aayla get gunned down.
mmmm...twi'lek....

I swear it looked like she started falling before she got shot, I am glad she didnt live to be on the tv show/

i guess that's the magic of working with blue screens, i guess.
"ok! fall down! pretend people are shooting at you!"

And while we are on Aayla(wait a minute)

Whatever world she was on had to be the worst in SW historie. I know it was beautiful but it looked like a scene out of Honey I Shrunk the Kids.

anyone happen to know what that world was?

Originally posted by queeq
And they were so very quickly wiped out. Showing another OB1 lie: "He helped hunt down and destroy the jedi knights." Very little hunting there, peeps.

The movie obviously left room for Jedis to be killed between Episodes 3 and 4. Think about when Yoda and Obi1 had to recalibrate the homing signal. If there were no Jedis left they wouldn't need to do that.

As for the whole "genetically programmed", it is obvious that it was a simple order that was told to them, not some switch that was flipped. Notice how the troopers that were informed of the Order had to tell the other troopers of the plan. Also how Cody said "I understand, my lord", meaning that he had previous been aware, not that he was nice and suddenly went evil beyond his control. The clone troopers were aware that the Order could be called at any time, pure and simple.

Ki-Adi Mundi did the best against his clones.
Plo Koon was helpless to defend himself in his starfighter.
Aayla was really weak against hers.
Stass Allie was stupid for not getting suspicious.

How could they have gotten suspicious. Their abilities are blocked, more so for the less powerful. They have fought with and trusted these clones for 3 years. None of them even suspected, and that is not surprising.

Originally posted by Milosz006
The movie obviously left room for Jedis to be killed between Episodes 3 and 4. Think about when Yoda and Obi1 had to recalibrate the homing signal. If there were no Jedis left they wouldn't need to do that.

As for the whole "genetically programmed", it is obvious that it was a simple order that was told to them, not some switch that was flipped. Notice how the troopers that were informed of the Order had to tell the other troopers of the plan. Also how Cody said "I understand, my lord", meaning that he had previous been aware, not that he was nice and suddenly went evil beyond his control. The clone troopers were aware that the Order could be called at any time, pure and simple.

wow. good analysis!

Originally posted by mysterio69
anyone happen to know what that world was?

Felucia.

I thought order 66 was the saddest part of the movie. Expecially when Ki-Adi died.

Originally posted by jedijunky1138
Obi Wan reprogramed the signal so that the remaining Jedi will stay away. That scene was in there for a reason. I think that the TV series will show some of the jedi that survived being hunt down by Vader.

No way Vader's gonna be in the tv series.

the queeq forbids it?

there will be no main characters in the TV show

I think the order 66 part should have been longer:

-Luminara
-Baris Offee
-Quinlan Vos!!
(-Even Piel?)

Originally posted by Lana
Felucia.

thanks.

Originally posted by Lord Banshee
I think the order 66 part should have been longer:

-Luminara
-Baris Offee
-Quinlan Vos!!
(-Even Piel?)

Luminara is seen very briefly, she's the last Jedi shown and you see her being shot down in the lower left-hand corner on what appears to be a bridge or something. It's literally blink-and-miss-it, it cuts away IMMEDIATELY. I was a little peeved that Luminara was passed off like that and Barriss wasn't shown at all....even though I didn't really want to see them die, being as they're my favorite Jedi, I really wanted to see them onscreen again. And I think Vos should have been more than just mentioned by name.

Originally posted by mysterio69
thanks.

No problem

simply sad, isn't it?

what! who is goin to be in the tv series?????/

Did anyone notice that Plo Koon(sp) was flying what looked like Anakin's old clone wars ship? The one he flew in the very first episode of Clone Wars, that looked like his pod racer.

Originally posted by Obi-wan2005
what! who is goin to be in the tv series?????/

I heard somewhere that Daniel Logan would be playing Boba Fett on the show. Anyone else? It's just what I heard.

look, the clones arent loyal to the emperor, they were loyal to the republic. Order 66 meant that the Jedi had become enemies of the republic. the clones were taught this since birth. they simply followed orders to protect the thing that they were born to fight for. if Palpatine just said to commander Cody or Gree

"Kill the jedi"

they wouldnt do it. they still thought the jedi were freinds of the republic, and would probably attack the emperor.

Originally posted by supatroopa286
look, the clones arent loyal to the emperor, they were loyal to the republic. Order 66 meant that the Jedi had become enemies of the republic. the clones were taught this since birth. they simply followed orders to protect the thing that they were born to fight for. if Palpatine just said to commander Cody or Gree

"Kill the jedi"

they wouldnt do it. they still thought the jedi were freinds of the republic, and would probably attack the emperor.

order 66 by itself meant "kill all the jedi and friends of the jedi"

the few sentences after it is just for added effect. Notice how order 66 takes effect instantly. The clones remain loyal even after there is no republic.

i researched Commander Gree on the internet and it said that the clones were simply ferociously loyal to the republic. they just thought the empire was the republic with a different name.

Indeed, they should have shown more of the Jedi being knocked off.

Luminara and Barriss should have gotten more screen time, since they were well liked. Barriss was on Felucia with Aayla; would have been neat for her to go like "Aayla, no!" and then get blasted down herself. And Luminara should have stuck with Yoda...

Quinlan Vos? Meh...

Kinda unfitting that Ki-Adi died... After all he`s been through. Couldn`t he have used the Force to dive off that platform and land somewhere safely?

There is a deleted scene with anakin killing shak ti as she meditates in the force maybe they'll put it on the dvd.

So... Do all the Council members (except Yoda and Obi 1) die? Even Eeth Koth? Noooo! Zabraks deserve so much better than this... Jedi zabraks at least...

It would have been funny if the clone commanders would have forgotten what the order was about.

Palps: Execute Order 66!
Cody: Pardon, my lord... What Order?
Palps: Order 66!!
Cody: I don`t get it? (turns to troopers) Hey, do any of you guys remember any 'Order 66'?
Troopers: What Order?!
Palps: Imbeciles...

Ki-Adi-Mundi would have fallen to his death.

Eeth Koth died during the Battle of Geonosis, in the gunship that was blown to pieces while Yoda and Mace watched. At least, that's what I heard.

But yes, all of the Council members kick the bucket, with the exceptions of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Ki-Adi-Mundi would have fallen to his death.

Eeth Koth died during the Battle of Geonosis, in the gunship that was blown to pieces while Yoda and Mace watched. At least, that's what I heard.

But yes, all of the Council members kick the bucket, with the exceptions of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda.

No, that must have been Agen Kolar (the brown one). Eeth features in the Clone Wars mini-series.

About Ki-Adi`s fall... I dunno... Shaak Ti attempted many deadly jump in the Clone Wars when GG came to kidnap Palpatine and lived.

Originally posted by fezster
does anyone know what song was playing during the order 66 scene??

Yeah, it's "Anakin's Betrayal"--#4 on the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack. My favorite tho, is "Palpatine's Teachings" the one that sounds like a bunch of humming Tibetan monks, when the Chancellor educates Anakin about the dark side at the opera house.

Agen Kolar is killed by Palpatine in Episode III, dgeniu.

Where's Eeth Koth shown in the Clone Wars series?

I thought Eeth Koth, Yareal Poof, Oppo Rancisis and Yaddle were all killed in the Geonsian Arena. (for some reason Lucas clung onto Saesee, Ki-Adi, Plo, and Windu--but none of the other Council members from TPM)

True dat Rex. And Kolar's padwan was killed in the arena by a Geonosian sonic-wave gun.

Yup, Agen Kolar's Padawan, Tan Yuster, was the last Jedi to bite the dust in the Arena.

Yarael Poof and Yaddle died before the events of Episode II; Yarael Poof was shot while trying to capture Coruscant mobsters, and Yaddle died in a large explosion.

Oppo Rancisis, however, did not go to Geonosis. He died on Saleucami shortly before Order 66, during an intense fight. Stass Allie died on the same planet, but it was after the Republic had pulled out most of their forces, and Stass Allie and her clones were on recon.

I dont mean to change the subject, but if Commander Cody was Obi's friend, then should he have warned him about Order 66?

Nope! No matter how good Commander Cody was friends with Obi-Wan, his true allegiance is to the Republic, not the Jedi. As soon as Order 66 was sent out, all friendship they shared was gone, without a thought.

yeah, that is true. when you think about it, when youve been trained since birth, you tend to follow orders without question

The clones were made to take any orders. The fact is Sid was higher ranking than the Jedi. They would not disobey an order no matter how much I wish they would've.

it was a good cause! The JEDI were traitors!

Indeed! Those damned anarchists!

yeah

Yareal Poof was capped by gangstas?? I had no idea. Never heard of that.

....thats wierd, cuz I never would've figured that a Jedi Council Member (much less Poof) would ever go out on the Coruscant streets. He was probably trying to infiltrate some syndicate.

Apparently a band of criminals on Coruscant had procured some ancient weapon, in which Jango Fett and Zam Wessell were hunting to destroy it, and Yarael Poof became involved, but took one to the chest towards the end of whatever fight it was.

Originally posted by dgeniu
No, that must have been Agen Kolar (the brown one). Eeth features in the Clone Wars mini-series.



Ooops... I got caught up in zabraks... Agen was there when they "arested" Palpatine.

So, any survivers, other than Obi 1, Yoda and Anakin, of course?

Eeth died at the Battle of Geonosis; he was not in the arena, but arrived with the reinforcements and Yoda. He was blown up aboard the gunship that exploded that Yoda and Mace were watching.

Eeth Koth survived that gunship attack. When then gunship crashed it took the life of a Klatoonian Jedi, Tarados Gon. Eeth Koth and Sora Bulq survived and the latter was pulled from the wreckage by Count Dooku and turned to the dark side.

Sounds like an EU thread to me...

Yeah, that whole story with Sora Bulq is EU. But we know Eeth Koth survived the Battle of Geonosis from TCW.

Certainly not a EPI,II or III discussion. Moving this to the EU section.

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