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The significance in why Obiwan uses a blaster to destroy Gen. Greivous instead of a lightsaber is a symbolic gesture identifying a change from using an elegant jedi lightsaber(prequels) instead of a clumsy blasters(ep IV). When obiwan kills Greivous with blaster instead of a saber, it identifies a turning point in the series. A point where having a blaster at your side was more secure. When Obi destroys greivous, he throws blaster to oneside and says " uncivilized". In a New Hope, old Obiwan in a disscussion with Han Solo debate the use of a lightsaber when compared to a blaster. Obiwan mentions that the use of a lightsaber was not as "clumsy and radom" as a blaster, and he continues saying " a lightsaber was the weapon used in a more civilized time(during the Rebulic/Jedi counsil dayz). So, using the blaster demostrates that a turning point in SW era was occuring. a turning from elegant lightsabers to clumsy blasters. Please note, the reason that I believe their is so strong of an appeal to the original trilogies is, that when we fisrt meet Luke(ep IV) he depends solely on the blaster, and carries his fathers lightsaber. In Empire Strikes Back, the strong appeal is Luke is in a MEAN(Middle) of using a blaster and a lightsaber. Remeber yoda training and tree, he takes his gun hulster when yoda says he would not need it. in cloud city he battles Vader with Saber, but is always using his blaster in the halls attempting to recue frozen Han. In Return Jedi, luke does not use a blaster at all, he depends solely on the lightsaber, He is a Jedi!1 Like his father before him. he does not use blaster.

thus showing us that a seasoned jedi, even a padawan learner, has no need for a blaster.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thus showing us that a seasoned jedi, even a padawan learner, has no need for a blaster.
Yes, but I really believe that the appeal of the Original trilogies was the Blasters. Luke carried his lightsaber at his pants side, but he also had a blaster on his opposite side. in the new trilogies, only lightsabers, and i think this is why its a bit less appealing. Obiwan in all three prequels NEVER lifts a blaster, not one single time. why in this movie. It's a symbolic moment identifying a change.

Nice Eddy....I agree with the above....

Great observation and interpretation. I agree.

I also agree,

I hate when good threads like this don't get any attention

Nah, I disagree...I think it's more just Obi-wan being flippant and a bit of an elitist.

perhaps in the matters of what he actually thought, yes, but insofar as what the event SYMBOLIZES I agree with the original post

Oh yes...I didn't read the whole thing. I thought he was referring to Obi-wan's 'uncivilized' line .

nice one eddy

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
The significance in why Obiwan uses a blaster to destroy Gen. Greivous instead of a lightsaber is a symbolic gesture identifying a change from using an elegant jedi lightsaber(prequels) instead of a clumsy blasters(ep IV). When obiwan kills Greivous with blaster instead of a saber, it identifies a turning point in the series. A point where having a blaster at your side was more secure. When Obi destroys greivous, he throws blaster to oneside and says " uncivilized". In a New Hope, old Obiwan in a disscussion with Han Solo debate the use of a lightsaber when compared to a blaster. Obiwan mentions that the use of a lightsaber was not as "clumsy and radom" as a blaster, and he continues saying " a lightsaber was the weapon used in a more civilized time(during the Rebulic/Jedi counsil dayz). So, using the blaster demostrates that a turning point in SW era was occuring. a turning from elegant lightsabers to clumsy blasters. Please note, the reason that I believe their is so strong of an appeal to the original trilogies is, that when we fisrt meet Luke(ep IV) he depends solely on the blaster, and carries his fathers lightsaber. In Empire Strikes Back, the strong appeal is Luke is in a MEAN(Middle) of using a blaster and a lightsaber. Remeber yoda training and tree, he takes his gun hulster when yoda says he would not need it. in cloud city he battles Vader with Saber, but is always using his blaster in the halls attempting to recue frozen Han. In Return Jedi, luke does not use a blaster at all, he depends solely on the lightsaber, He is a Jedi!1 Like his father before him. he does not use blaster. Awesome analogy...right on the money brother.

Agree i do

Best thread of the day so far...

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Best thread of the day so far...
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Finally, I received positive praise from my post! Thanks! I had this idea in my head for about 2 yrs and when I saw the Flick EP III, I clicked. Thanks you all'

Yes I agree and thought this as well when Obi-Wan said, "How uncivilized!" And notice... he never again uses a blaster. He must have really hated having to resort to using it.

Especially when you consider how many of his fellow jedi were gunned down by troopers.

i also agree that this post is right-on, a very good observation indeed. the only thing is, when obi-wan is talking about the lightsaber being "an elegant weapon" and not as "clumsy and random" as a blaster, he isn't talking to Han, he is talking to Luke, but that is neither here nor there. sorry, i'm a noob to this forum, so i'm just trying to show some of my (insignificant) knowledge.

well, he didnt had his lighsaber... so he could use that ONLY weapon... or a rock...

i don't know if i agree but it was nonetheless interesting.
I think it just shows obi wan will use anything he needs to to win. He merley marked his discust after using a blaster because it is not a jedi's weapon of choice and they are very elitest
still interesting idea

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
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Finally, I received positive praise from my post! Thanks! I had this idea in my head for about 2 yrs and when I saw the Flick EP III, I clicked. Thanks you all'

well to the slow learner
the rest of use figured out the throw away tag after reading the leaked plot 18 months ago.

Originally posted by moviejunkie23
i don't know if i agree but it was nonetheless interesting.
I think it just shows obi wan will use anything he needs to to win. He merley marked his discust after using a blaster because it is not a jedi's weapon of choice and they are very elitest
still interesting idea


No it does not show that Obiwan would resort to anything. It represents the change from glory days of the Republic rule in contrast to the rise of the Empire. In the Republic, it was the jedi who kept the piece with their weapon of choice the lightsaber. Under the Empire, the weapon of "Rule" would be the blaster. their are no Jedi, "That race is extinct" except for the 2 exciles and twins. No Jedi, no lightsabers, no more. Now, the blaster is dominant weapomn in the galactic system far away. Obiwans use of a blaster, and then saying "uncivilized implies that the jedi with thier sabers are no more, and that the "uncivilized " blaster is now the wewapon of choice. BAZING!!!!

Originally posted by bILLYgOAT
well to the slow learner
the rest of use figured out the throw away tag after reading the leaked plot 18 months ago.



"I TOLD YOU TO REMAIN ON THE COMMAND SHIP!"

You are the only slow learner here, my friend! Now, go to the command ship and awit my orders. If you knew of this information prior to my two yrs of conception of concept, then it is you my friend who demonstrates indications a distincnt tactical deficiency in your mental cognition, and thought processes! You following me so far, in Lamen's terms(thats retarded talk) If you knew of it, why yousa so stupie and yousa noe say so yousa self! because, it was I who concieved it! It was i who allowed the Death Star plans to fall into rebels hands, YOU DO NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN AT GOOD CONCIEVED IDEAS POSTED ON KMC. Sorry GoatsMilk, you need to learn manners, and better than that, you need to learn how to work in a workshop and create constructive criticism rather than just blantanly attempting to use dialect and modern vernacular. U need English Skillzzz! Seacrest...I mean..EDDY OPUT!!!

fuc off

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
U need English Skillzzz! Seacrest...I mean..EDDY OPUT!!!

Heh..That's ironic. Lol anyways you made a great observation, analogy whatever you wanna call it.

Yeah, nice observation, Eddy.

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
No it does not show that Obiwan would resort to anything. It represents the change from glory days of the Republic rule in contrast to the rise of the Empire. In the Republic, it was the jedi who kept the piece with their weapon of choice the lightsaber. Under the Empire, the weapon of "Rule" would be the blaster. their are no Jedi, "That race is extinct" except for the 2 exciles and twins. No Jedi, no lightsabers, no more. Now, the blaster is dominant weapomn in the galactic system far away. Obiwans use of a blaster, and then saying "uncivilized implies that the jedi with thier sabers are no more, and that the "uncivilized " blaster is now the wewapon of choice. BAZING!!!!

yea i understand your theory, i just don't agree with it. I think your reading too much into it but thats ok because making theories is fun

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
Sorry GoatsMilk, you need to learn manners

I think you do too.



By the way; great thoughts on Obi and the blaster thing.

Han Solo kind of solidified the fact that lightsabers had become virtually outdated when he said ""Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

Good observation, man.

Eddy, you completely do away with all of the coolness of your original thoughts when you get angry and blow up at someone whose opinion is different from your own. Just relax!

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Han Solo kind of solidified the fact that lightsabers had become virtually outdated when he said ""Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

Good observation, man.

yea its unfortunate for Han he is proven wrong when he trys to shoot vader. Thats how i saw it anyway

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
The significance in why Obiwan uses a blaster to destroy Gen. Greivous instead of a lightsaber is a symbolic gesture identifying a change from using an elegant jedi lightsaber(prequels) instead of a clumsy blasters(ep IV). When obiwan kills Greivous with blaster instead of a saber, it identifies a turning point in the series. A point where having a blaster at your side was more secure. When Obi destroys greivous, he throws blaster to oneside and says " uncivilized". In a New Hope, old Obiwan in a disscussion with Han Solo debate the use of a lightsaber when compared to a blaster. Obiwan mentions that the use of a lightsaber was not as "clumsy and radom" as a blaster, and he continues saying " a lightsaber was the weapon used in a more civilized time(during the Rebulic/Jedi counsil dayz). So, using the blaster demostrates that a turning point in SW era was occuring. a turning from elegant lightsabers to clumsy blasters. Please note, the reason that I believe their is so strong of an appeal to the original trilogies is, that when we fisrt meet Luke(ep IV) he depends solely on the blaster, and carries his fathers lightsaber. In Empire Strikes Back, the strong appeal is Luke is in a MEAN(Middle) of using a blaster and a lightsaber. Remeber yoda training and tree, he takes his gun hulster when yoda says he would not need it. in cloud city he battles Vader with Saber, but is always using his blaster in the halls attempting to recue frozen Han. In Return Jedi, luke does not use a blaster at all, he depends solely on the lightsaber, He is a Jedi!1 Like his father before him. he does not use blaster.


Dude, you are seriously reading to much into this. Obi wan kileld grevious with a blaster because it was use a blaster or die. As for Obi wan saying that light sabers were used for a more civilized time in episode 4, is because there were no Jedi left to be seen weilding light sabers

Originally posted by Echuu
I think you do too.



y?

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
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Finally, I received positive praise from my post! Thanks! I had this idea in my head for about 2 yrs and when I saw the Flick EP III, I clicked. Thanks you all'

Well...you let it go to your head when you climbed on the high horse. Keep in mind I've disagreed with 85% of what you say in other threads.

Originally posted by bILLYgOAT
fuc off
GoatMilk's reply " FUC OFF"........nice!

Is dat vernacular old folklore, or old english? "You like your father, are mine!" and my favorite line to taunt someone is..........."Oh...I'm afraid it will be operational when your friends arive" (SW EPVI)

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Well...you let it go to your head when you climbed on the high horse. Keep in mind I've disagreed with 85% of what you say in other threads.

You disagree with my other post on thread like ....Lea premonitions to her dead mother...no her Real mother. Crap....one could discuss a dead issue like that forever! i post great threads...I posted SIGNIFICANCE TO WHY OBIWAN USES A BLASTER INSTEAD OF SABER ....and...HAIRY ISSUES( ANAKINS MOP WAS IT UGLY)......and.....Pregnancy issue which has been contraversial but effective with hits .lol " You, like your father, are mine!!!" BAZING!!

Just please stop talking. Your arrogance is giving me a headache.

Talk about Nerd Wars

Originally posted by tlbauerle
Just please stop talking. Your arrogance is giving me a headache.
STOP TALKING IN A FORUM. U NEED AN ASPIRIN OR TO GET LAID. I THINK ITS THE LADDER HALF< YOU NEED TO GET LAID. ALL YOU DO IS FOLLOW MY POSTS AND CRITICISE MY WRITINGS. I WRITE REALLY WELL. YOU HAVE ISSUES PAL!

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Dude, you are seriously reading to much into this. Obi wan kileld grevious with a blaster because it was use a blaster or die. As for Obi wan saying that light sabers were used for a more civilized time in episode 4, is because there were no Jedi left to be seen weilding light sabers

When one write he is attempting to depict something into your head. I see that it was last resort, but Lucas could have also writen in that Obiwan force pushes Greivous of the edge , or force crushes his Thorax(chast) when he say it had a livin heart. It is an ANOLOGY when one can make a literary connection in a text. It was a weapon of last resort and opurtune moment, but it is significant to what iI claim. A change from lightsabers to blasters.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Han Solo kind of solidified the fact that lightsabers had become virtually outdated when he said ""Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

Good observation, man.
Thank you, you are a true critique. Good job

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
STOP TALKING IN A FORUM. U NEED AN ASPIRIN OR TO GET LAID. I THINK ITS THE LADDER HALF< YOU NEED TO GET LAID. ALL YOU DO IS FOLLOW MY POSTS AND CRITICISE MY WRITINGS. I WRITE REALLY WELL. YOU HAVE ISSUES PAL!

FU...I'm married jack ass...

And you mean "latter"...great writer? Oh...powerful jwriter was he...hee hee...mmmm, powerful.

Originally posted by Eddy Urquia
The significance in why Obiwan uses a blaster to destroy Gen. Greivous instead of a lightsaber is a symbolic gesture identifying a change from using an elegant jedi lightsaber(prequels) instead of a clumsy blasters(ep IV). When obiwan kills Greivous with blaster instead of a saber, it identifies a turning point in the series. A point where having a blaster at your side was more secure. When Obi destroys greivous, he throws blaster to oneside and says " uncivilized".

Yes thanks for pointing that one out Eddy. I didn't like Obi's remark but I do like your observation. Light sabers are out (for a while at least) blasters are the in thing now.

dude is eddie joking around?
did anyone read what he said about finaly people agree with me muhhaaahhaah and if you don't you need asprin and to get laid
wtf
(rasies eyebrow)

Partially to show how creative Obi-Wan is.

No, Eddy's not joking. He flips out.

I agree with NoFate here. It does indeed show that Obi-Wan is one crafty individual.

Originally posted by moviejunkie23
dude is eddie joking around?
did anyone read what he said about finaly people agree with me muhhaaahhaah and if you don't you need asprin and to get laid
wtf
(rasies eyebrow)
I apologize if anyone misunderstood about the "laid" deal. i was commenting that remark for "Billy the Goat" who had given me positive feedback, but then sent me some cussing reply. I am so sorry to you all, it reads like it was to all of you, but It was NOT. It was for Billythegoat. Read the quote above it, it states billies reply. I apologize to all participants in this forum , beacause I mean no malice or insults to you all. I just l;ike to converse.

No...it was for me because you quoted me and replied directly to the quote

I don't really care...but don't weasel out like it meant for someone else. It was pretty clear to all of us who it was aimed at.

But...apology accepted Captain Needa.

No problem guys, I really am sorry. Because , I plan to post a sweet one everyday!! bazing

dance:

Originally posted by tlbauerle
No...it was for me because you quoted me and replied directly to the quote

I don't really care...but don't weasel out like it meant for someone else. It was pretty clear to all of us who it was aimed at.

But...apology accepted Captain Needa.

Random thought
Captian Needa rocks

Originally posted by bILLYgOAT
y?

holda holda up; srry how i worded that; i meant that he isnt showing respect and needs to chill himself down

"Good...good. I can feel the anger swelling inside you, now strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the darkside will be complete!" Emperor Palpatine EpVI

Originally posted by Echuu
I think you do too.



By the way; great thoughts on Obi and the blaster thing.
Thanks for your positive feedback! Thanks again

I think when a New thread is posted and in generates good replies 'Hits". I tend to notice that immidiately there are individuals who come into that thread to post negative comments and bad mouth the Post in order to weaken it and have nagative comments listed throughtout it. These negative comment nagate the readers attension and therefore a REALLY GOOD TOPIC gets lets hit than it should. HMMM,....just a revalation!

Well the significance is that Blasters are Babarous and it made a good joke for Obi-Wan

It shows that he wasnt really fighting a jedi and how barberic grevious is that he kills him with his own barberic wepon....if it was a jedi it would be different

I think the use of the blaster does reflect a point in the movie. Desperation. Everyone was so intent on killing the seperatists they did not detect the underlying plot. Perhaps its this sort of attitude "do whatever it takes" that lead anakin to becoming vader. Rember the film's reference to absolutes? Its either blaster or saber. But wheres the third option?

huh....i never saw it that way thx