Tarantino, Brosnan Want Royale
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forumcrew
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-04/05/13.00.film
check it out.. pretty interesting
Evy_O
Ermmm... I hope not
yerssot
why not? talked about Bond with a friend yesterday and he says it's always the same and very boring
need something to give it a boost again
Evy_O
I don't think it's boring
yerssot
secret agent, weapon that destroys the world, gets laid by a girl with stupid name, saves the day (and preferably with only 7 seconds on the timer)
Evy_O
I still don't think it's boring, these are part of the story. (aaaand it rhymes
)
yerssot
well, that wasn't my opinion of course
The Redeemer
*sigh* Showing your lack of knowledge of the earlier Bond films again, Y? That's 007 on the timer in GOLDFINGER!
No, no, not GOLDenye!!!
yerssot
yeah, I know, they changed it from 3 to 7
and the one with Roger Moore ... had some seconds left too
Evy_O
I don't follow you
This was supposed to be a general comment for all JB movies
yerssot
it's me mentioning Bond stopping the bomb with 7 seconds left on the timer
Kes
It would be pretty cool if Tarantino did it.
I mean he'd have to cut the swearing and blood a bit (ok a lot
) but his method of story telling is ace
yerssot
dunno, I wouldn't mind people calling bond a stiff-assed brit
Kes
It wouldnt be stiff-ass. It would be something like:"You crazy ass mother ****er!"
WindDancer
*jumps into the James Bond forum*
I thought you said he was overrated Kes.
Anyways QT working with Brosman seems a bit cloudy. But who knows it might work. If it's low budget it would be quite different.
*jumps back to the QT forum*
yerssot
well, he ASKED for a low budget, but the Broccolis still have to agree
Kes
I like the way he tells a story with going back and forth. But its overrated the way his movies are praised. Cos story wise they are nothing special.
forumcrew
i think it would be cool, and prolly need to be the first R rated bond unless tarantino changed his ways which i doubt hed be willing to do... but bond withough an ass load of computer would be great.. tarantino loves story line and dialogue get closer to the older bonds before all the crazy FX and give the franchise a boost
yerssot
I hope he goes back to Sean Connery and not Roger Moore
forumcrew
that would be awesome also, but he did mention using brosnan as brosnans final one
yerssot
nono, I ment, going back to the stories like they were with Sean Connery
forumcrew
ah yes, well i imagine the story would be pretty original if QT had his way, i think the producers could be scared to give him that kinda control over bond though
killthesunlight
its funny i started this over in QT forum, where i should be right now, but i think it'd be interesting to watch it unfold compared to the new cookie-cutter films bond has been putting out
yerssot
I just want a movie where the story is more important than the effects
Kes
Yeh. I doubt QT would do what he normally does. I mean Bond is a Brit and has finesse so no swearing every 2 seconds and he usually kills clean LOL Not blood squishing out
I bet he would respect what Bond is about and imitate (that is what QT does best) the old Bond movie
yerssot
as long as he doesn't say "Bloody good show, ol'chap!"
forumcrew
so true.. the new movies have become money making tools only, so they just pump them up with effects.. not just bond most new movies... and these ones are always the ones to make the money its sad really
yerssot
I wouldn't cry about it turning back into a small franchise, but DaD did very well unfortunatly
The Redeemer
Let's hear it for Y!!!!!
Well said, old man! A note to the Bond franchise...
REVAMP THE ENTIRE SERIES!!!
Hmmm...perhaps I'll make that line my new sig!!!!
yerssot
old man??
I'll chap you
IF Tarantino does it, he already said he will only need half the money they use for Bond movies these days... which is still a lot
forumcrew
i think he said about 40 mill which is a good bit.. but still considerably less.. plus he hates cgi
yerssot
than we can go back to the old explosions
yerssot
ok, since this is a bit Tarantino like ...
MovieHole.net wrote that if Tarantino gets the go ahead, he would pick Uma Thurman as Bondgirl
EllaMarie
Gee, ya think QT's got a thing for Uma Thurman?? Puhleeeeze! That makes it sound like QT's attitude is "it's my way or the highway" - which is fine when you're doing your own movies - but Bond is a franchise.
It is a franchise that DOES need some reinventing, I must admit - and QT could definitely breathe some new and fascinating life into the old cookie cutter standard......
I think this would be a phenomenal opportunity for QT to prove HE is capable of more than the Pulp Fiction & Kill Bill types of direction & content.... in other words - tone it down to prevent an R-Rating. Too much movie audience is lost in making everything R-Rated. Young Teens have the largest disposable income in a lot of society these days.
(IMHO, I think that the human imagination has been put into neutral with so much graphic material in movies.)
yerssot
yeah, I don't get why Uma ... haven't seen KB at all, but I do know how she looks like and she can play a cameo if she wants or perhaps a very small role, but she doesn't has the looks to be a bondgirl imho
and I have to agree with you, perhaps Bond needs QT, but than only if he goes into the direction of giving Bond more background and stuff, just focusing on it with much less FX.
I just hope that if he does it again, he won't make it R, we need "little kids" (I mean those that are not adults) too! Cause who as a "kid", didn't dream of being a secret agent? (well, I can tell you, most guys did or still do) With that R, it can go really wrong I'm afraid
Evy_O
Well I think FX are nice, as long as they are combined with a nice story/background
As for Uma Thurman, she looks good imho, but not exactly suitable for Bond girl, something's wrong with it
I haven't seen any QT movies and I dunno if I like him
Discos
i agree his method of story-teling is excellent.....however his timing signatures do not belong in a bond film am afraid
yerssot
yeah, a bond movie is rather lineair and stuff
I know lots of girls who I think would be suitable to be bondgirl... britney isn't one of them!
EllaMarie
How about Uma Thurman as "the" villain of the movie.... that would work well with her "Kill Bill" persona.
Discos had a good point about the "timing signatures" of Tarantino versus the traditional Bond movies - I think that the linear chronology should remain in tact. After all, with QT directing - that in itself will be an adjustment for many fans (not saying it's good or bad - just an adjustment).
As for special FX - don't mind them either - they just shouldn't be the "whole" movie. How many people truly remember the Bond movies for the "compelling" or "memorable" stories!?
It's like "remember when that bomb went off in the....." or "remember when they narrowly escaped something-er-other"
yerssot
sure she can be bad, but it shouldn't be cause of Kill Bill, that's a seperate movie all together
oh, Bond doesn't have a good storyline, but it's the mystic, the intrigue and of course the charm of it being a secret agent
WindDancer
Well, if you seem Vol. 2 noticed that the character of Bill possess some wicked awesome dialogues. Now, picture any Bond Villain giving that kind of dialogue in the movie. Is a perfect match! QT makes the bad guys look so good! If QT gets to do a Bond villain, I will go as far as saying that it will be the best Bond villain ever.
yerssot
oh, there are some good parts for baddies already in the movie...
Largo playing with Bond or Goldfinger almost neutering (notice the spelling
) him, ...
EllaMarie
Considering the original casting of Royale, almost anything would be an improvement!
yerssot
he would just take the name and change the story, I thought
EllaMarie
Anything but the original!
yerssot
yeah, it did strike me as a weird story
Spike Eccles
am i alone in thinking that QT would be perfect to direct the otherwise unnessecary 21st James Bond flick? Imagine it - great soundtrack, cool camera moves, iconic characters - perfect formula groundwork for a director like Tarantino.
yerssot
we generally take this thread to talk about tarantino:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f65/t34328.html (I think)
he could be what the franchise needs yes, but it's still not sure if he will do it
EllaMarie
He would be a "breath of fresh air" - AS LONG AS he tones down his usual graphic violence. THAT doesn't fit with Bond and the audience Bond is directed at. To "restricted" a film rating limits the fan following. Not showing so much blood and gore is part of what makes Bond classy - everything is CLEAN.
yerssot
yeah, no blood, they just grab their chest and fall down
EllaMarie
Even when shot in the leg?
yerssot
not that I can remember
those bloodless guys
Kes
Brosnan: "Let Tarantino Make a Bond Film"
007 star Pierce Brosnan is desperate to make a James Bond film with maverick movie-maker Quentin Tarantino. The Kill Bill auteur recently revealed his ambitions to make a Bond movie, and Brosnan - rumored to be stepping down as the superspy after making his fourth 007 film - thinks he'd be fantastic. When asked what Tarantino would add to the franchise, Brosnan gushes, "Life. A great sense of excitement and danger and the perspective of a film-maker who's really made people sit up and watch his movies. He's got a cutting edge which we got with the last Bond film Die Another Day with Lee Tamahori's sense of flair. They allowed him, more than any other director, to go out there with it. So someone like Quentin would be magnificent, whether it's me as Bond or some other guy."
News property of www.imdb.com
yerssot
That was posted yesterday already here
WindDancer
Hmmm... What makes me wonder is the timing of all this. QT will working on different projects like Hell ride, Inglorous Bastards, Vega brothers movie. It might take longer to see if he gets to do a Bond movie. Now as far as violence I think QT should increase it in a Bond movie. Maybe not graphic but more like the violance in the Sean Connery series.
yerssot
as long as it's not filled with blood and bodyparts flying around
WindDancer
People get eaten by sharks in Thunderball. Is logical to see body parts. That's what I had in mind.
yerssot
Thunderball and sharks? you refer to Licence to Kill I take? With Felix getting his leg off? the most you can see there is blood in the water
Kes
Not in this thread *shrugs*
WindDancer
Yeah! that's the one! Sharks can't eat your whole body! If QT would directed that one he would have shown body parts floating around.
yerssot
(thunderball is with connery, licence to kill is with dalton
)
see! that's not bondlike, the most you can get is that you see some blood, not that bodyparts go flying in the air
WindDancer
One scene with some gore isn't going to affect the Bond line. Also is not all about the bloodshed. QT might handle a Bond movie differently than his other 4 movies.
yerssot
but it will feel un-bondlike
yerssot
they say he's asking the producers now
Evy_O
who's asking who about what?
yerssot
Tarantino is asking Broccoli to do it
Evy_O
that's a good thing then?
yerssot
if you want tarantino to make it yes ... and I think most want that
yerssot
*bump*
from the New York Times:
Brosnan about Tarantino and the Casino Royal idea:
"I went to them and asked about making "Casino Royale," which is the first Ian Fleming book. I had hooked up with Quentin Tarantino, who wanted to direct the movie. On the fifth apple martini one evening, he mentioned "Casino Royale," which is the blueprint for the psyche of Bond, and I took that idea to the Broccoli family, who produce the Bond movies. They have a way of doing the films, and they are not open to discussion -- they threw my idea out the window."
so apperently the idea of making CR was more closer developed than we even realised
phinney6
I think it would be really really cool
yerssot
but I doubt it will happen, copyright and trademark y'knw
phinney6
Change the names, and stuff, much like AUstin Powers did,
yerssot
then it's still sue-able
The Redeemer
Tarantino is too self absorbed in his own cinematic view of things...what the Bond film needs is a director who will give SOMETHING BACK to the series...
The Redeemer
Like style, panache, decent action sequences, decent storylines, decent...I think YOU get the point!!!
yerssot
the problem is that in the most modern action movies (which Bond is becoming more and more), there is no decent storyline nor a dcent action sequence...
The Redeemer
The LAST DECENT ACTION FILM I saw was DIE HARD in 1990...
yerssot
hmmm, Goldeneye.... that was still a classic one, but perhaps the plot was overdone?
Ahnold
I don't think so; IMHO, you just can't beat a good ol' megalomaniac with a superweapon
!
Oh, and btw: QT himself has recently announced that, with the news of Brosnan being fired from the part of James Bond, the director has decided to shelve his plans to do an adaptation of "Casino Royale" with him. A shame ...
yerssot
it was original in thunderball of course, but perhaps the world has seen too much of this plot already to keep it popular?
I actually am glad he buggers off of the project ahnold
Ahnold
Originally posted by yerssot
It was original in Thunderball of course, but perhaps the world has seen too much of this plot already to keep it popular?
I dunno about you, but give me an eeevil villain with a superweapon anyday!
Originally posted by yerssot
I'm actually glad that he buggered off the project ahnold.
Me too. QT IS brilliant, but I really don't like the idea of him drecting a Bond movie ...
Ahnold
Would be interesting to see what he does with it, though ...
yerssot
well, you must absolutely enjoy Dr Evil then
I'm sure QT has his good moments but all the movies I saw had not the style the Bond movies use
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