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The sequel to Alien vs. Predator is happening and will most likely center on a battle in our world, 20th Century Fox Film Co-Chairman Tom Rothman told SCI FI Wire at the Saturn Awards in Los Angeles.

"We will do another one of those for sure. It was a big success," Rothman said in an interview before he received a Life Career Award from the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films.

"In the new Alien vs. Predator they will finally actually really come to our world," said Rothman. The previous Alien and Predator movies took place in the future, and Alien vs. Predator took place in a remote Antarctic location, though in modern times. The new film could bridge the gap between all the movies and the two horror film franchises, Rothman said.

"It's likely that we will bridge the gap, and the beginning of that will be setting it in our contemporary universe," said Rothman. He laughed when the characters were likened to terrorists. "They were always terrorists, yes, but only metaphorically," he said.

Wow, unbelievable. How far can Hollywood go with crap?

Originally posted by lau_timmy

"We will do another one of those for sure. It was a big success," Rothman said in an interview before he received a Life Career Award from the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films.

"In the new Alien vs. Predator they will finally actually really come to our world," said Rothman. The previous Alien and Predator movies took place in the future, and Alien vs. Predator took place in a remote Antarctic location, though in modern times. The new film could bridge the gap between all the movies and the two horror film franchises, Rothman said.

Idiot. "Predator 2" took place in 1997. Although it was filmed in 1990, that's hardly the "future" in which "Alien" took place in. All this jumbling of timelines is going to bite them in the ass, just like "Freddy vs Jason", nobody knowing when the hell it takes place.

The first movie was a "big success" in terms of earnings, and honestly, overseas is what made it big. That doesn't mean the movie was horribly flawed. I liked it, but the general consensus is that it sucked, and there's been backlash along with it.

I don't know who this Rothman character is personally. I'm a huge Sci Fi fan and never heard of him before this post. He's a co-chair suit at FOX? Fantastic. What has he written, directed, or produced? What Sci Fi franchises and characters did he birth?

I'd be interested in this, though I was hugely disapointed by the original, the story isn't without promise.

Well i think the concept of the predator and alien alone have miles of potential. Shit, when i first heard the idea of andersons travesty (AvP) i was floored, then i saw the final product . These kinds of movies have such great potential. These are ass kickin sci-fi icons that encompass action, horror, suspense, and sci-fi all in one movie. Every attempt at a predator or alien movie should be a blockbuster to all action and sci fi fans alike. I think the only way this could possibly work is to break all ties of the other movies. Forget they even exist and make your own flick with plenty of aliens and predators this time. HOwever, you know CGI is going to pollute the screen with that many aliens, and that will only turn out to be shit in the end. any movie connected with aliens versus predator is going to be shit. I diddnt think it made that much money either. I thought it just made back what it cost and a little more.

CGI aliens look like shit and totally un believable.

I knew they were going to make a sequel cause thats what hollywood is doing know a days. sequels, sequels, sequels. cant writters write any good stories these days? I guess not. I truly liked the first avp movie but come on another sequel?? im tired of sequels doesnt seem original and intresting as the first one. lazy ass writers :P

AvP was about one of the most UNoriginal movies ever

Well i disagree with ragesremorse because we never saw what happened to the alien that was on the Predator ship and remember what that guy said? He said that the aliens could not get to the surface and waht happened one got to the surface. So i think they should make a AVP 2!!!

I actually liked AvP........it's nothing great but I found it to be a decent little popcorn flick. They should just leave it alone........the ending of AvP did kind of bridge the gap between series and timeline as it left the audience with the option that the mysterious ship discovered in Alien could have been that of the predators.

nope, those are called pilots, and the skeleton in the movie alien looked more giant human than pred.
and they have to be careful when the use people in suits, cos then it would look like the old godzilla movies.

Originally posted by Jyaaku
nope, those are called pilots, and the skeleton in the movie alien looked more giant human than pred.
and they have to be careful when the use people in suits, cos then it would look like the old godzilla movies.

The pilot of the alien ship in the original movie has no correlation to the Alien except that the species on the ship had collected alien eggs and the pilot of the ship got itself impregnated by an alien. which later caused the ship to crash when the alien burst out of the pilots chest.

My only problem with the flick was that there wasn't enough Aliens vs. Predator. It was 90 percent humans running around getting killed.

True.

they should do a Aliens V Predator V Riddick

No, that would ruin it.

If they continue with the "Aliens and Predators on Earth running around freely maining and killing" motiff then how are we to believe that in the future that "Alien" and the subsequent movies took place in a world that only the company knew about the Aliens....?

Why would the Military of the future be so clueless about the existance of the two factions if they were known to us through loads of movies of them clashing on Earth...?

I smell franchise destroying hokum....

Agreed. Maybe they will barely reach the surface and the Predators use their bombs to blow up any evidence of such a thing. Its weak, I know, but it could be pulled off. But as you just pointed out, it doesn't seem right to bring them to the city and have nobody know in the future. I say just let the battle take place in the future. I've always liked the set up of the Alien movies anyway, just let it take place on a ship like one of those. Hopefully, we'll finally get to see an alien that was hosted by a predator fight.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction


I don't know who this Rothman character is personally. I'm a huge Sci Fi fan and never heard of him before this post. He's a co-chair suit at FOX? Fantastic. What has he written, directed, or produced? What Sci Fi franchises and characters did he birth?

Rothman is the guy who's been trying to kill the X-Men franchise ever since production started on the first one...

He's close to the top of my "to kill" list...

and he is anything but a sci fi fan...

A short letter too Rothman (taken from AICN)

i liked AvP but i dont think another one would be nessecary really ....

The first one wasn't necessary, but they are fun movies. Hopefully this one they make right.

Originally posted by Myth
The first one wasn't necessary, but they are fun movies. Hopefully this one they make right.

Fun? watching andersen butcher two of the best franchises is fun?

No kidding, all I saw was a bunch of no-name actors running around screaming the whole movie. Kind of sounds like a Friday the 13th or Halloween movie, don't it?

why not just simply base it off of one of the popular novels that already exist? Cgi aliens always look god awful. terrible idea to make a sequal unless you have a $100 million budget. I'm not even going to comment on the story because it is a given that it will be utter shit, so the best we can hope for now is believable effects.

sounds awesome. like Predator 2 where the predator went into the city. that was an awesome movie and now this is just gonna be better!! (hopefully)

Thats sarcasm, right?

what, you didnt like Predator 2??

The second have got better but the first half (especially first 30 mins) was God awful.

yeah kinda

ya but the preds are gonna win anyway

I want the alien-predator to win. It should take them all on.

You guys need to remember that the reson AVP sucked was because fox told the director to make it PG-13 at the last minute. It was originally supposed to be rated R. So, the directer had to cut all kinds of stuff out. Luckely the directors cut is comming out soon!

if you ask me i think this is supposed to happen before the whole alien series. it kinda shows how the aliens got in space in the first place doesnt it?

^ Maybe they will make it in the future again (but not as far as the alien movies) and make it take place where the humans find the planet of the aliens (maybe led there by the Predators or something?). The planet could have no full grown aliens, but just eggs. Much of the crew become hosts then the Predators arrive. The Predators and humans get in a position where they need each others help (just don't make it gay like in the 1st AVP) and they escape together. They end up on a huge ship (like the aliens are on in the movies) and then have to escape that. That leaves the aliens in space for the alien series. Most importantly, the new big thing that they will have to fight will be my god damn alien-predator!

I hope that the keep the mythological aspect that they had in the first AVP.

Aside from the flawed storyline, I just want more Pred vs. Alien action. You ask me, the Preds died a little to easily there...and there were way to many Aliens left alive towards the end that it disgusted me...this should've been a hunt? Where was the hunt? That's all I want.

im still waiting for the directors cut.

Originally posted by Tandrade
Well i disagree with ragesremorse because we never saw what happened to the alien that was on the Predator ship and remember what that guy said? He said that the aliens could not get to the surface and waht happened one got to the surface. So i think they should make a AVP 2!!!

Alien in the Pred Ship is deader than dead. Its like...You a human in a ship with more than million predators and your trespassing.

the first AVP was crap if they make another one it would be crapper

They should bring into account homefield advantage. Put some of the movie in a Pred terrain, and some in an Alien terrain. A large open, yet cluttered, space where the Preds can rack some serious ownage, and a close quarters, tunnels-and-hiding-spots place where the Aliens eat everything...

They should of stuck to the book, then a sequel would of really of made a lot of sence. Just hope this time around we see more of The Preds and Aliens fighting it out as that was the best part of the Original. Hopefully thou they wont cock this sequel up as they did with Alien 3 and Resirection thay where crap and made little sence.

Something else they should do is bring back characterisation. In the Alien and Predator movies, the humans and monsters had personality. The Predator was irritable, mean, and vicious. They should make these Preds like him. And the Alien was smart, cunning, a stalker. They should personify them this way instead of so animalistically, like they did in AvP...

they need to bring back some gore (human or otherwise) the first AVP was dissapointing to many because of that reason (and the PG-13 rating that they used to allow more of an audience)

Originally posted by gls
they need to bring back some gore (human or otherwise) the first AVP was dissapointing to many because of that reason (and the PG-13 rating that they used to allow more of an audience) Good point they need to give it more of a adult theme, not saying gore for the sake of gore but along the lines of Aliens. And if possible Anglena Jolie naked in it somewhere, never know might happen

did the first Aliens vs Predator have any warriors in it like the original Predator? and if not, are there gunna be any in the sequel, or does ne1 know

AvP was a joke as for AvP2 is Hollywood joking bored

they better make another one and make up for that hunk of shit 1st one

i hate that movie myself.

The title "Survival of the Fittest" is that good.

Personally i found the first AVP film to be excellent. Anderson was able to truly bring the aliens back to life in both attitude and appearance and the entire story really worked more closely with the comics rather than the films. I felt that having Wayland in it was a bit over the top because were talking hundreds of years from the AVP movie to the first aliens movie.

Why? Simple Alexa

I'm sure quite a few here are familiar with the female character in the comics that was inducted into the Predators. So for a follow up sequal it would make the most sense to continue down that path.

I dont believe that any AVP movie will ever be able to tie the Alien or Predator movies together so i hope they dont. AVP needs to stand on its own for a series and let its predessors do the same with a final Alien and predator film. The only way for a AVP movie to truly merge with them is if they continued with the idea of the marines either fighting the aliens here on earth *ending from ressurection* and have the Predators arrive for their seasonal hunt and discover Earth in chaos and due to their tribal pride take part on the losing side and weaken species of the humans.

If they did this then the aliens could be stopped and possibly the predators seeing humans as truly if not less advanced warriors similar to themselves.

Alexa did this on her own when she saved scar.

AVP rocked. I'm excited for the next one.

AVP sucked. It sucked so, so much.

And it's a shame because it could've been so good.

Originally posted by The Core
Idiot. "Predator 2" took place in 1997. Although it was filmed in 1990, that's hardly the "future" in which "Alien" took place in. All this jumbling of timelines is going to bite them in the ass, just like "Freddy vs Jason", nobody knowing when the hell it takes place.

The first movie was a "big success" in terms of earnings, and honestly, overseas is what made it big. That doesn't mean the movie was horribly flawed. I liked it, but the general consensus is that it sucked, and there's been backlash along with it.

I don't know who this Rothman character is personally. I'm a huge Sci Fi fan and never heard of him before this post. He's a co-chair suit at FOX? Fantastic. What has he written, directed, or produced? What Sci Fi franchises and characters did he birth?

Actually Predar 2 was set in the year 1992

Well Avp had great potential but was ruined by alot of factors, Firstly the aliens look like shit, i wish they had put back the original alien from 1979 which would being back the "fear". Seconly CGI wrecked everything, the only thing worthwhile about the CG is the alien queen.

The area of the movie is horrible, the place is so gloomy and so dark, and i doubt there is any backstory or any connection between the alien and predator trilogy.

Also, it makes me wonder, WHERE did the predator get the alien eggs from? they cant just come from no where, i know they came from the alien ship on lv-426 and those eggs were created by the space jockeys(the pilot) But it was never revealed where they got the eggs from

Already there are major contradictions between alien 1979 and AVP 2004.
i read somewhere where it stated in alien 1, it was the first time men ever encountered this species of alien, and yet in AVP we see that men encountered them as far back as 3000BC.

One last thing, in alien 3 we see the original Bishop, who claims to be the designer for the bishop droid series and he wasnamed "Michal bishop". He was stated to be the original bishop and be human, But AVP contradicts that, this takes place by weyland industries, the parent of weyland yutani where "Charles weyland bishop" is claimed the original bishop by AVP movie.

I am glad that Predator concrete jungle which happened some time after AVP makes a small connection between all the trilogies by revealing how the "mother" system came about which we see in alien 1979 and how weyland yutani was formed.

If they do make AVP2, i would love to see alot of improvements and i would like to see things revealed like the origin of the eggs.

AVP 1 or 2 have got nothing to do with the alien movies . It was just an idea that these two icons should go head to head .

I only like Arnie's preditor i dont like 2

the fighting in alien vs predator prey has some of the best looking fight scenes in the comics, they should study them because they are brilliant to use in a film.

they should cut out cgi and go backto puppets, CGI killes the terror of the alien.

its gonna be rated 18 and will have gore and will be more scary then the first one

i personaly can not wait till avp 2 comes out but i am with coolmovies on this one the alien should go back to puppets it gave them a more terro to them and like in doom there was a feeling like "well the alien got hit and the fist did not go half way through befor the alen moves or reacts to the hit"

Check out the first image for the upcoming sequel, Alien vs. Predator 2!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/alien-vs-predator/avp2.jpg

Thanks alot looks cool

I think this will go down in histroy as a great movie just like aliens !!

Well they said that they wewre going back to the old ways when they made alien 2.

I liked the first AVP. I hope the sequel will be just as good.

Whats with all the ridges in the alien's head? There heads use to be smooth.

Originally posted by lordofwar
Check out the first image for the upcoming sequel, Alien vs. Predator 2!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/alien-vs-predator/avp2.jpg

That Predator is so f*cked.

Anyone know if we're seeing the predator/Alien that bursts out of scar at the end of AVP?

Originally posted by Myth
Whats with all the ridges in the alien's head? There heads use to be smooth.

That design looks a bit more like the ones from the second Alien film

Being a big fan of the comics, game, and books, I was sh*tting my pants that they finally made an avp movie. I was such a fanboy about it, I loved it. Then later I looked back and went, "damn, I guess that wasn't very good, was it?"

The sequel of course has me just as excited (hell, I play AVP2 the game every night, and just got off), but the fact that it's on Earth again really irritates me. If they would have put it on another planet, the story would have been much better. I don't much care for the human struggle to survive, and I especially don't care for the "leave everyone happy" stalemate of the last movie.

The idea of this great little plot of humans stuck between my two favorite warring sci-fi factions gets me as excited as the idea of sticking my junk in a toaster.

What do I want from this one?
-A sense of the Yautja society
-The horroresque feeling of the Aliens (Xenomorphs...whatever) movies
-Much like Broken Tusk from the comics, I'd like character development for some of them, more than just a grunt or two.
-Rated R, nuff said
-Less playing up of the 'great human hero.' In their individual runs, the Aliens and Predators both needed a foil, something to base the story around...now they have each other.
-Fight. Scenes. They was about as much fighting in the last one as there are condoms in Africa. NOT ENOUGH.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xMa1-Nfhps

A little clip from the FX guys behind it. Rated R is a go.

truly bleeding awful film...

I was actually shocked at how poor the first one was, and I have quite a high pain threshold for this sort of rubbish

The first one was stupid as hell. But I'll give the second a try, it could get better.

I think it'll do better

I hope it wont be on earth, it would be also good, of it was in the future.

This outta be cool.

the first one was good but the hole being trapped in a pyramid thing was stupid as hell. i did however find the story of the predators giving the egyptians power a good back story.. if they can run with that and do a prequel then id say avp would be off the hook.

Originally posted by Myth
Whats with all the ridges in the alien's head? There heads use to be smooth.

the one in the first alien had a smooth head then in aliens it was ridged

Originally posted by darktim1
Well they said that they wewre going back to the old ways when they made alien 2.

thats exactly what Anderson said about the first movie

Originally posted by Manslayer
i read somewhere where it stated in alien 1, it was the first time men ever encountered this species of alien, and yet in AVP we see that men encountered them as far back as 3000BC.

One last thing, in alien 3 we see the original Bishop, who claims to be the designer for the bishop droid series and he wasnamed "Michal bishop". He was stated to be the original bishop and be human, But AVP contradicts that, this takes place by weyland industries, the parent of weyland yutani where "Charles weyland bishop" is claimed the original bishop by AVP movie.

i really enjoyed AVP with the exception of the 10min gestation period.(maybe it will be explained in the next movies)
if you get the unrated version of AVP there is way more blood it was much better.
You have to remember that the company is trying to get the aliens for the biomecanical weapons, so they are keeping their existance a secret for the most part.
as for bishop in alien 3, i don't really care cause for me the series ended at the end of aliens. and #3 and #4(resurection) never happened.
Fox would be wise if they are going to continue with this story to toss those 2 and start from the end of aliens.
or you could look at it as if bishop in alien3 was a desendent of charles weyland, which is possible. I had an old picture of one of my family members from 1800s and he looks exactly like my dad.

AVP had great potential but it sucked. I hope the second one doesn't.

I agree, the first part, had just great action, but no story, like the 2 first Alien movies, the 2 part, better have a stronger plot.

Plot? screw that, I they better have more actual Alien vs. Predator fight scenes.

In the first one, the first two Predators are killed so easily, and teh final Pred's fight scenes were weak. He just blasted everyone away. In this next oen I want to see more AvP and less humans and character development.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
I agree, the first part, had just great action, but no story, like the 2 first Alien movies.

Yea and both of those were bloody terrific were as avp1 was'nt that great for plot.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Yea and both of those were bloody terrific were as avp1 was'nt that great for plot.

I dont know, the plot was actually fairly decent. The execution however, failed in all fronts

Well this movie is going to suck period

Firstly AVP fcuked the whole alien franchise up, How? Simple. Michael bishop appeared in alien 3 in 2179 and the director states that he is the actual bishop who designed the android models and this is backed up when we see his ear dangling and tissues exposed.


Guess what? AVP claims that charles bishop is the original bishop and they made androids in his image hundres of years later. Contradiction? Hell yea

And if you have watched all 4 alien films the key goal was to never let the alien to earth seeing it will annihilate the human race completely and wreck havock but when we saw AVP guess what?? They have been on earth all the while!

Lets also not forget that AVP never explained where the predator got the alien eggs from or if they had any connections to the space jockeys. Thats right the jockeys are the one who created the aliens Apparantly the ship filled with eggs in alien stored these eggs in a stasis field and those eggs used to be space jockeys

And after reading the plot of avp2 i was WTF? Instead of choosing exotic alien planets or other planets, instead of space or any other area save for earth they chose a stupid small town?

This is going to end up like other cheap shit horror films. Blah blah blah the team of surviving humans take refuge in a mall, they shoot and kill any aliens they see and 1 by 1 the crew is killed off until the last 2 survivors which will consist of
either
1. Lovers
2. Parent and child
3. Best friends

And then they wanderhere and there and they find the nest and as other stupid horror films they are going to bomb the place with some good old dynamites.

For once i want to see all the humans getting killed so i can leave the theatre with shock rather than expect them to survive as any other show

I meant that Alien and Aliens had a great plot, sorry about that mistake.

Originally posted by Manslayer
Well this movie is going to suck period

Firstly AVP fcuked the whole alien franchise up, How? Simple. Michael bishop appeared in alien 3 in 2179 and the director states that he is the actual bishop who designed the android models and this is backed up when we see his ear dangling and tissues exposed.


Guess what? AVP claims that charles bishop is the original bishop and they made androids in his image hundres of years later. Contradiction? Hell yea

And if you have watched all 4 alien films the key goal was to never let the alien to earth seeing it will annihilate the human race completely and wreck havock but when we saw AVP guess what?? They have been on earth all the while!

Lets also not forget that AVP never explained where the predator got the alien eggs from or if they had any connections to the space jockeys. Thats right the jockeys are the one who created the aliens Apparantly the ship filled with eggs in alien stored these eggs in a stasis field and those eggs used to be space jockeys

And after reading the plot of avp2 i was WTF? Instead of choosing exotic alien planets or other planets, instead of space or any other area save for earth they chose a stupid small town?

This is going to end up like other cheap shit horror films. Blah blah blah the team of surviving humans take refuge in a mall, they shoot and kill any aliens they see and 1 by 1 the crew is killed off until the last 2 survivors which will consist of
either
1. Lovers
2. Parent and child
3. Best friends

And then they wanderhere and there and they find the nest and as other stupid horror films they are going to bomb the place with some good old dynamites.

For once i want to see all the humans getting killed so i can leave the theatre with shock rather than expect them to survive as any other show

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I juz do my homework well but seriously lets officially cut the avp franchise off the predator and alien trilogy

i really enjoyed AVP with the exception of the 10min gestation period.(maybe it will be explained in the next movies)
if you get the unrated version of AVP there is way more blood it was much better.
You have to remember that the company is trying to get the aliens for the biomecanical weapons, so they are keeping their existance a secret for the most part.
as for bishop in alien 3, i don't really care cause for me the series ended at the end of aliens. and #3 and #4(resurection) never happened.
Fox would be wise if they are going to continue with this story to toss those 2 and start from the end of aliens.

as for AVP2 here is hoping , as the directors are special effects masters and thats it. I am reminded of phil tippet's (creature designer and effects for star wars and other scifis) directorial debut with starship troopers 2 that sucked. cross your fingers.

Originally posted by Manslayer
Well this movie is going to suck period

Firstly AVP fcuked the whole alien franchise up, How? Simple. Michael bishop appeared in alien 3 in 2179 and the director states that he is the actual bishop who designed the android models and this is backed up when we see his ear dangling and tissues exposed.


Guess what? AVP claims that charles bishop is the original bishop and they made androids in his image hundres of years later. Contradiction? Hell yea

And if you have watched all 4 alien films the key goal was to never let the alien to earth seeing it will annihilate the human race completely and wreck havock but when we saw AVP guess what?? They have been on earth all the while!

Lets also not forget that AVP never explained where the predator got the alien eggs from or if they had any connections to the space jockeys. Thats right the jockeys are the one who created the aliens Apparantly the ship filled with eggs in alien stored these eggs in a stasis field and those eggs used to be space jockeys

And after reading the plot of avp2 i was WTF? Instead of choosing exotic alien planets or other planets, instead of space or any other area save for earth they chose a stupid small town?

T


I think the connection of AvP to the aliens movies was done only out of homage. The Bishp thing was the very least of the movies problems.

The space jockeys didnt create the aliens. Each alien incarnation is different depending on their host. The sapce jockey's just coolected the alien eggs. Not referencing where the predators recieved the alien eggs from was doing the same in alien and aliens by not referencing where the jockeys recieved the egg's from. It would have not excelled the story or added any kind of new dimention to the broken execution of the story.

As much as i agree with you that aliens vs predator would do better taking a page out of the comics and taking place elsewhere than Earth. There are two factors keeping the war on Earth. One the dudget is very low for an aliens vs predator movie, Secondly, im sure the filmakers are bound to keep continuity in the series by somehow connecting AvP2 with the first.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
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The space jockeys didnt create the aliens. Each alien incarnation is different depending on their host. The sapce jockey's just coolected the alien eggs. Not referencing where the predators recieved the alien eggs from was doing the same in alien and aliens by not referencing where the jockeys recieved the egg's from. It would have not excelled the story or added any kind of new dimention to the broken execution of the story. Your wrong actually, the jockeys created the aliens as a bio weapon to wipe out other enemy space jockeys. The alien omnibus novel by alan dean foster stated this. They created the eggs and the colonial marine tech book also states the same thing i believe that the jockeys bred and created the alien eggs

Originally posted by Manslayer
Your wrong actually, the jockeys created the aliens as a bio weapon to wipe out other enemy space jockeys. The alien omnibus novel by alan dean foster stated this. They created the eggs and the colonial marine tech book also states the same thing i believe that the jockeys bred and created the alien eggs

Well that may be one way to look at it. The comic book genocide however, states that the aliens are an independent species created only by nature. Although im sure it doesnt mater one way or the other, considering there was no extended universe for the alien franchise during the first two movies.
Also, in AvP, i didnt think lance henriksons character bore the name bishop, I thought he was just the man that started the coorporation which later was responsible for the advance in cubornetics, or am i wrong...was henriksons' character in AvP bishop?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Well that may be one way to look at it. The comic book genocide however, states that the aliens are an independent species created only by nature. Although im sure it doesnt mater one way or the other, considering there was no extended universe for the alien franchise during the first two movies.
Also, in AvP, i didnt think lance henriksons character bore the name bishop, I thought he was just the man that started the coorporation which later was responsible for the advance in cubornetics, or am i wrong...was henriksons' character in AvP bishop? Comic books are non canon according to the movies especially after what dr wren and perez stated

But however anderson stated that the "bishop" in AVP which is charles weyland is the original bishop while alien 3 and alans movie novel stated that "Michael bishop" in a3 is the original.

Theres a contradiction

Originally posted by Manslayer
Comic books are non canon according to the movies especially after what dr wren and perez stated

But however anderson stated that the "bishop" in AVP which is charles weyland is the original bishop while alien 3 and alans movie novel stated that "Michael bishop" in a3 is the original.

Theres a contradiction

the comic books came before the exntended literature


I dont see how anderson tried to state that weyland was the original bishop, is name wasnt even bishop. I am sure henrikson was cast just to try to pay some tribute to the original alien flicks

Imagine a Predator and a Xenomorph(Alien) having sex.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
the comic books came before the exntended literature Sadly the statements made in the movies refuted any events which took place in the comics.

Namely Dr wren and general perez and of course, weyland yutani

Originally posted by ragesRemorse

I dont see how anderson tried to state that weyland was the original bishop, is name wasnt even bishop. I am sure henrikson was cast just to try to pay some tribute to the original alien flicks Wrong. Alien 3 director stated he is the original bishop in A3 and lance henriksen confirmed it while alan dean foster backs this up and anderson stated the bishop in his movie is the original one. "Charles weyland bishop"

Originally posted by Manslayer
Comic books are non canon according to the movies especially after what dr wren and perez stated

But however anderson stated that the "bishop" in AVP which is charles weyland is the original bishop while alien 3 and alans movie novel stated that "Michael bishop" in a3 is the original.

Theres a contradiction

is avp canon though?

Originally posted by pr1983
is avp canon though? Problably but if it is confirmed canon then it damaged the alien trilogy severely

humans should have the power to fightback!!! not sitting prey ducks!!!!!!!!!

i cant wait for avp2. it looks like the crew have realized that thhey messed up with the first one and are going to fix it in the second one. also the whole bishop thing, according to the movies and my opinion, the bishop in a3 was an android specifically designed to look extremely human while avp bishop was the original. i mean really can you imagine the companys main person being sent into a dager zone like a3? i cant.

Originally posted by dragonspider
i cant wait for avp2. it looks like the crew have realized that thhey messed up with the first one and are going to fix it in the second one. also the whole bishop thing, according to the movies and my opinion, the bishop in a3 was an android specifically designed to look extremely human while avp bishop was the original. i mean really can you imagine the companys main person being sent into a dager zone like a3? i cant.

I hope someone learned something from the first movie. Though i thought the concept and tone of the first one was decent enough, it fell apart in execution. IT feels like an empty film. I will never understand why they just didnt go with the already existing story of AVP form the comics. I think its silly that Fox feels that it is important to connect each movie. from these series'
Personally, i think the bishop thing was a very slight in consistancy. Maybe if the last two aliens movies and AvP were good, i would have cared enough to pick on that

i thought avp and the last 2 alien movies were good. heck a3 is my favorite alien movie!

Avp was good but it was not masterpiece.

no it wasnt it needed more action. and some of the aliens looked like runners from a3, but other than that it was great.

Who do you think is going to win the battle in this movie? probably the preds or humans again. Cause let's be honest the movie aint going to bring anything original to the table is it or break out of the mould the past movies have set.

i bet aliens are gonna win. if this is the last avp movie then these franchises have to go out with a bang and if its not then the story for the next one is elite predators and the millitary wipe out the alien menace leaving the franchises wide open for pred 3 and a5.

actually his name in AVP was Charles Bishop Weyland, and as far as I am concerned alien 3 and alien resurection never happened, those movies sucked. James Cameron spent all that time building up the characters in Aliens and then they are dead at the begining of Alien 3 what a joke.
If Fox was going to continue with the Alien movies they should start after Aliens and toss 3 and 4
AVP wasn't too bad I was entertained, you have to watch the unrated edition, much better more blood.
The only thing that troubled me was the 10min gestation period, maybe it will be explained in the next film? I guess they couldn't have the preds sitting around for a few hours waiting for them

AVP2-Requim Trailer online!;
http://media.movies.ign.com/media/746/746237/vids_1.html

Originally posted by Spartan ll
AVP2-Requim Trailer online!;
http://media.movies.ign.com/media/746/746237/vids_1.html

It looks interesting.

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looks frigin awsome
I still enjoyed the first one but this one wow
don't go to youtube musch better quality here.

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/746/746237/vids_1.html

Looks as though there may be an Alien hive if you look at the part when the blond girl gets impaled you can see the structure of it.

You notice, that the name is Aliens vs predator, not Alien like the first one.

That's because there is only one predator this time around, which means it's basically going to be a massacre of Aliens in this film. Makes sence because the Aliens won in the first film. That's beause one alien kils 2/3 of the predators, and the remaining predator only killed a baby alien, and the queen a cheap shot]. Also he was impregnated before he died, furthering Alien victory. speaking of which, did anybody else notice the Predalien hybrid in the trailer?

have to say it looks far better than the first one, so fingers crossed it as good as it looks...

also sticking it in a more modern setting can only help imo...

Just saw the trailer. Great to see they're holding back with the gore.

Trailer with some extra footage of the ship crashing at the beginning and the title says it's Aliens vs Predator 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3S70eWWpcs

Already seen this trailer, this movie looks incredible. And I canNOT wait for it!! And I like the fact theyre going back to the original way the Predators looked like in the first 2 movies w/ less armor and not as bulky so they dont look like freakin knight football players on WWE steroids. I just hope they get more experienced Predators in this movie instead of Unbloodeds(rookies) like in AVP so they can do some more pwnage. Cuz frankly, the Preds actually kinda sucked in AVP, with the exception of the Scar Predator that died at the end..The other 2 tho were killed by 1 Alien each when really any Pred should be able to pwn at least about 5-7 Aliens. Thats why its called AlienS vs Predator, theyre pwns.

They were newbs,and I don't think they really expected to get stabbed in the chest WHILE invisible..

I personally think ALIENS > Predators.

You know the only thing that messes my head up about Predators? Their hands! They just look so like fake rubber gloves! Especially when they're pressing buttons etc. Their fingers and nails bend! And their feet aren't much better...

dont you guys remember the avp comics. the fist avp movie was okay and the second one can be even better. its just all about whos writing it and how much appreciation they have for these characters

Originally posted by Whisper
You know the only thing that messes my head up about Predators? Their hands! They just look so like fake rubber gloves! Especially when they're pressing buttons etc. Their fingers and nails bend! And their feet aren't much better...

You mean nails, and fingers dont bend?


Holy shit!!!

I wouldnt expect that.

Originally posted by Shin_Blax
They were newbs,and I don't think they really expected to get stabbed in the chest WHILE invisible..

I personally think ALIENS > Predators.

R u serious?

if thats true,

hicks > aliens,

so hicks > predators...

Originally posted by pr1983
if thats true,

hicks > aliens,

so hicks > predators...

Very true, just read Prey.

Aliens > Predators.

If the former are in ridiculously high proportions to the latter.

5:1, a good predator has no problem.

Hell, even 15:1, a skilled Yautja will come out on top every time - even without his plasmacaster.

Bump it up even further, though, and even the best will begin to get overwhelmed.

Originally posted by lau_timmy


"In the new Alien vs. Predator they will finally actually really come to our world," said Rothman.

did he not even see the last movie?

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
did he not even see the last movie?

Last time, even though it was set on Earth, it was still hardly 'really our world.'

It was in bum****ed egypt, under tons of ice, in an ancient temple, where no one's been for centuries....

This time, it's like in Oklahoma or some such.

Originally posted by braz
Very true, just read Prey.

which one was that? they sort of all blend together for me...

Originally posted by Soljer
Last time, even though it was set on Earth, it was still hardly 'really our world.'

It was in bum****ed egypt, under tons of ice, in an ancient temple, where no one's been for centuries....

This time, it's like in Oklahoma or some such.

yeah, thats true... avp could have easily been set on an alien planet with a couple of alterations, avp2 looks like it could be happening in the next town over...

Comics and novels are not canon.

As to who is better : aliens or predators?
Each of them are better in certein aspects.

Aliens are superior in sheer physical strength as they can puncture skulls easily and tear a thick steel door open.

For speed its debatable, notice how fast the predator could reach the subway train from the graveyard in predator 2? While the alien in a3 was pretty fast, it is very hard to tell who is really faster.

Its safe to assume that the aliens are more agile seeing that they can climb walls and run along them, it also takes immense strength for a 8 foot creature to run along the walls like that.

Now when it comes to tactics, fighting skills and intelligence, the predator is far more superior than the alians

About the movie there are a few things i may not like.
Those are
1) will there be any back story? Alien ressurection severely lacked any reference to the first 3 films while AVP fails to connect to the previous predator films, I'm hoping this film will at the least have some backstory on either the predator franchise or AVP

2) Will they signify the merger between weyland industries and weyland yutani to further connect to the alien franchise

As for the gore, it will be included in these movies and im glad to know the aliens hissing will be the same as the ones depicted in james camerons aliens while the ridged headed alien drone returns.

There is slight improvement on the alien design, though its head is shorter than the original alien depicted in ridley scotts "alien", the biomechanical look of the aliens have returned which is one of the factors which made this creature so terrifying in the first alien film.

And for the 3rd time we get to see an alien hybrid, the predalien which is sort of the very main antoganist of the film.


Im sure this film will be much better than the first, i want the horror feeling in this movie that the first alien film get, i want to see the alien actually being menacing and intimidating because for AVP and AR, the aliens failed to bring back that fear we experienced in the first 3 alien films

if they are going to continue ahead with the alien franchise Fox would be wise to pull a warner brothers with batman begins and start over.
but right after aliens, cause #3 and resurection were crap, the only thing redemming qualities were seeing the alien running like a dog in 3 and seeing just how far the company would go in resurection to get it.
after that yeeeech. ma ma.

Originally posted by pr1983
if thats true,

hicks > aliens,

so hicks > predators...

Well hey.. in Pred2 the Predator DID get pwnt'd by an odl black cop on his OWN turf.

Predators are overrated.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Well hey.. in Pred2 the Predator DID get pwnt'd by an odl black cop on his OWN turf.

Predators are overrated.

Originally posted by pr1983
if thats true,

hicks > aliens,

so hicks > predators...

Hudson > Hicks 31

Originally posted by Röland
Hudson > Hicks 31

vasquez>hudson...

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Well hey.. in Pred2 the Predator DID get pwnt'd by an odl black cop on his OWN turf.

Predators are overrated. Yeah, after he shot the Predator 5 times, close-range, with 55. caliber shot gun and cut it's hand off. There goes your point.

Preds aren't overrated at all. In every case, they either underestimated humans (P1 Pred) or were grievously wounded by them(P1 Pred and P2 Pred).

BTW Hicks > Hudson

Originally posted by pr1983
vasquez>hudson...

Gorman? > Vasquez. haermm

BTW: Hudson > All Colonial Marines.

Back to the matter at hand. This movie is said to focus on one elite predator, some sort of cleaner. Sounds cool and all, and the trailer did show alot of stuff that they should have put in AvP1, but chickened out on. Still... with one single pred in the lead I'm afraid there isn't going to be much tension or uncertainty around the fights, as the predator will stay alive until at least the very end.
It's looking good, but I don't want to see the aliens put down as just threads to the humans, and I definitely want to see a pred hit the dust hard in r-rated glory by the nastiness of an alien.
Hope they balance this properly.

Originally posted by Röland
Gorman? > Vasquez. haermm

BTW: Hudson > All Colonial Marines.

newt>gorman...

hicks>hudson...

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Back to the matter at hand. This movie is said to focus on one elite predator, some sort of cleaner. Sounds cool and all, and the trailer did show alot of stuff that they should have put in AvP1, but chickened out on. Still... with one single pred in the lead I'm afraid there isn't going to be much tension or uncertainty around the fights, as the predator will stay alive until at least the very end.
It's looking good, but I don't want to see the aliens put down as just threads to the humans, and I definitely want to see a pred hit the dust hard in r-rated glory by the nastiness of an alien.
Hope they balance this properly.

aliens are just threats to humans though... one predator with his gear is far superior to a single alien... it takes a fair few aliens to take down one pred...

they just posted the new trailer for AVP-R

Daddy? There's a monster right outside the window!

AVP-R TRAILERAVP- Trailer
http://gloob.tv/files/thumbnail/avp2_0.jpg

Originally posted by SheWants
they just posted the new trailer for AVP-R

Daddy? There's a monster right outside the window!

AVP-R TRAILERAVP- Trailer
http://gloob.tv/files/thumbnail/avp2_0.jpg

Saw the new trailer, its very good.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Saw the new trailer, its very good.

yeah, it looks pretty damn good...

When does it get to Population: 1

Then the saga would be over.

If the saga ends I'll be sad...They could just remake one of the comics as a movie. That might be cool.

The biggest problem with the movie i saw was that you see a planet of Predators, one of them sees some bad shit going on down at earth and goes to sort it out. One predator. So you think "ok, if it gets hairy he'll call in some back up and its on" but it never happens. No matter what happens, he stays solo. Come on, like another 2 preds would have hurt the movie.

And even compaired to AvP 1, the humans in this were badly writen, Alien was brilliant because it had Rippley, Predator was brilliant because it had Dutch, but this...meh. Who gives a shit about the prissy idiot that dates jocks. So the pizza boys a whingy pussy. How do you make a ex-con so boring? Why not just call the mother Ripley instead of making her a crap clone? Sure there were some cool moments, but when theres so much crap in between...

Originally posted by tabby999
The biggest problem with the movie i saw was that you see a planet of Predators, one of them sees some bad shit going on down at earth and goes to sort it out. One predator. So you think "ok, if it gets hairy he'll call in some back up and its on" but it never happens. No matter what happens, he stays solo. Come on, like another 2 preds would have hurt the movie.

And even compaired to AvP 1, the humans in this were badly writen, Alien was brilliant because it had Rippley, Predator was brilliant because it had Dutch, but this...meh. Who gives a shit about the prissy idiot that dates jocks. So the pizza boys a whingy pussy. How do you make a ex-con so boring? Why not just call the mother Ripley instead of making her a crap clone? Sure there were some cool moments, but when theres so much crap in between...

I didn't mind the movie it was on par with the first one not bad and it was better than alien 3 and resurection
But you could tell that it was directed by 2 special effects guys that took what the fans were saying literally and put in everything that was in every other movie including a little girl. the fans wanted 1 pred they got it, a a ripley like character they got it. lots of blood got it, lots of aliens got it, predator home world got it, more weapons got it.
Hopefully they will release an extended edition of the DVD to have things maybe make more sense.
I don't think we were ever suppose to give a shit about any of the characters, same in alien(with the exception of ripley) and predator(except for dutch) aliesn(ripley and hicks) predator 2 (harrigan) avp (lex) avp-r (the military chick?) but lets face it these movies are about the aliens and predators that's it. nothing else should matter.

I think what they need to do is bring in some descent stars to root for, it would be great for the series to bring adam baldwin (garber predator 2) back in the sci-fi community would love that and maybe have jake busey come in as peter keys son?

You detracted your own argument by saying they need to bring in a "decent star to root for." Thats just my point, the Alien and Predator movies were great because they HAD a great centeral human character to root for, they didn't just put in cardboard cutouts so the monsters have something to kill.

And yes, they did put in "what the fans wanted" but when it came to the characters the fans wanted, they did it in the laziest way possible, by going "these guys are kinda like the old characters you loved, why not love them too?"

They should have Alien vs Predator vs Freddy vs Jason vs Ash Williams. I'll bet a lot of devoted fans would go to see that.

My fault I guess I contradicted myself there. What I meant to say was that in alien and aliens you had the actors and the aliens, in predator and predator 2 you have the actors and preds, so you can root for one or the other, but with AVP the last 2 were all about the preds and aliens and you are right the humans are just to kill and breed more aliens, so there would be no need to care about any of the humans. so for the 3rd AVP they should bring in some good actors Adam baldwin for example to work for weyland yutani, and a couple of marine personnel to live at the end of the movie. I think once they fully incorporate the weyland yutani coporation into the series it will make it much better.

They dont need to try and develop character for just one species, they need to do it euqally for all 3, if they made the humans, preds and aliens "well rounded" (harder with the aliens and preds, but their original movies did kinda do it for them to a degree) then the movie would be fine...well, should be fine...

Originally posted by apoc001
They should have Alien vs Predator vs Freddy vs Jason vs Ash Williams. I'll bet a lot of devoted fans would go to see that.