Originally posted by Wynndar
Draco...Im obviously more of a Marvel fan while you are DC fan. Calling me a fanboy is just laughable though, coming from u.Im no more of a fanboy than urself. We both can be very opinionated but we usually back up our posts with information from actual comics.
Me a fanboy? Possibly of Wonder Woman. Other than that no. I back my arguements up with stone-cold facts. You rarely do. Usually your arguements consist of thus:
1) DC is stupid and overpowered.
2) The Fantastic Four faced cosmic beings and won.
That's it. No facts. No arguements. Just whine about how much you dislike DC comics. Which is fine. But I just find it amusing and childish.
I consider myself a fan of BOTH companies. I read more Marvel than DC. Unlike you I actually take the time to read both companies so I'm well-versed for arguements. You don't have the luxury. Your knowledge of DC is lacking and inaccurate. I, however, have considerable knowledge of both companies. You don't have this luxury and never will in my opinion.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Its obvious though that u have a DC bias though.
I hardly have a DC bias. I rely on facts and evidence. Something you don't dwell on. You rely on assumptions and bias. Particularly a bias against anything DC and anything for the Fantastic Four.
Originally posted by Wynndar
U just created a thread about the FF vs the Ray?
The Ray was defeated by Aquaman and Batman. The Fantastic Four is capable of beating him. What happened to the "Fantastic Four defeated Terrax and Galactus so he's no match for him" jargon you're so fond of?
Originally posted by Wynndar
...u just tried to create a scenerio where DC Earth could beat Marvel Earth by turning their entire population into "supermen".
If you actually read DC comics, (That'll be the day) you would know this already happened. The World War III/Mageddon event in JLA comics.
Originally posted by Wynndar
I think u entirely missed the point of my other post. I aknowledged that Superman and Wonder Woman's powers were explained within the perameters of their respective telekenetic/magical powers. However, I was trying to emphasize the other two dozen DC characters who can do the same thing with no explanation. Or how Doomsday moves faster than Superman (which is far faster than Mach 3) yet it doesnt cause any other symptoms to the environment. Its already been established that the Flash/Superman/Doomsday move exponentially faster than Quicksilver. However, there r plenty of DC guys that can keep up with WW and SM in terms of strength and Speed with no explanation.
Maybe because its I don't know comic books? I could say the same thing about Quicksilver, Silver Surfer, Quasar, Thor, Wonder Man, and Northstar. These people can all exceed the speed of sound. And they have in battles. Next to teammates. How can can Quicksilver hit something at Mach 3 and not shatter his hand? How can Northstar fly through a titanium Sentinel at Mach 3 and come out unharmed?
The answer to your question is simple. They rarely use such a level of superspeed in populated areas. Doomsday used his superspeed liberally and destroyed entire cities with its afteraffects. A clone of Barry Allen who wasn't connected the Speed Force ran through a city anc caused catastrophic damage.
As I said before, you don't read DC comics. Thus you don't know the true parameters of their powers. Read the Secret Files or the Ultimate Guides to understand them.
Originally posted by Wynndar
If thats the kind of material ur into, then cool, whatever, but dont try to use it as a reason for a DC character to out do a Marvel character because if a Marvel character were under those same rules and writers they'd be doing the same damn thing.
I don't understand the above comment. It's a jumble of words. I never use the "DC characters are better" arguement. That's your forte. You say it all the time regarding DC as "stupid". Look at the Shaggy Man vs. Fantastic Four thread. You insulted the character but didn't post any arguement as to why they would win. That's not logic.
Originally posted by Wynndar
About She-Hulk, are you saying that the May issue of "She-Hulk" where she is fighting Titania is a spoof? i was unaware. And why is this proven in disassembled? that was like 5 months ago. I will hit up the comic store today and see if there is a more recent issue of She Hulk out.
If you read comics you would know that some events in comics happen after or before other events regardless of the release time. The Phoenix Song was printed after the Astonishing X-Men and yet it happened before. The Hydra/Dawn of the Light Wolverine series is printed at the same time as Astonishing X-Men and yet the Hydra storyline happened after.
Scarlet Witch was present in helping She-Hulk and her battle with Titania. So obviously it happened before the Disassembled event.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Im in no way saying She Hulk would beat WW...I was just saying it appeared that people were ignoring the events in her comic book by saying she has class 75 strength.
Those people are ignorant and don't read her comics. That's not your fault.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Sorry if i offended u by saying WW holding up the Empire State building with one arm while deflecting another attack was retarded. And Im sorry if u think Im a Marvel fanboy with an utter distaste for DC.
You didn't offend me. I was trying to show you that that both companies in itself are "retarded" because they both print outrageous material at times.
I believe you should just enlighten yourself to DC. Read a few of their comics so you would be more versed for this forum. You're missing out on alot of things because of it.
