Too many threads for this topic, to post all the links.
here's the most recent
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299259
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299640
and
Book 7
RoguePw25
thanks tassie! Please used the links provided by her.