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i like this thread and i think vader wuld win barely though but he has better mastery of the force

Maul. One hit and Vader is screwed. Maul is raw rage, power and finisse, whereas Vader is mostly power.

I would say Maul as well. He is in much better shape and is a much better swordsman. Vader is as slow as hell.

Sure he's slow but he packs a huge puch. If Maul gets to close he will get killed.

Originally posted by Bobafetty
Sure he's slow but he packs a huge puch.
Well Maul is fast, and packs a huge punch. So there ya' go.

I'm going with Vader. He would find the weakness of Maul and exploit it. Then, he would use his mastery of the force to kill Maul.

true. thats usually what he does

Originally posted by HimoKun
I'm going with Vader. He would find the weakness of Maul and exploit it.
Umm, how? Is it an innate ability? What IS the weakness of Maul?
Originally posted by HimoKun
Then, he would use his mastery of the force to kill Maul.
Of course, you realize that Maul won't just be sitting around do you?

No. Maul does not pack a huge punch, he's just fast and does rapid hits but the're not that powerfull blows. Vader however is amazing in strenght and could just slice the hell out of Maul if he was off guard or got to close.

yes vader wuld win

uh huh

Originally posted by Bobafetty
Sure he's slow but he packs a huge puch. If Maul gets to close he will get killed.
Uhh Mauls slow?Did you see him fight?He just goes at it slicing half the place up.He wil lose no doubt about that.BUT he isn't slow.

I think he was saying Vader's slow.

ya duh

Oh,sorry.

1. which vader we talking about here? RotS? ANH? RotJ? comic-book?

2. i'm not afraid to admit i don't know that much about Maul other than the obvious stuff from TPM and some more stuff i've read on these forums (better to admit rather than be an idiot that proves to know) but in the movie at least i haven't seen too much of his control over the force, while i've seen Anakin with great control of the force in the movies, as well as in the CW series, and as Vader, so IMO in the force department, Vader would surely win. As for the lightsaber duel, if it comes to that, i don't know which would win, most likely Maul if he got close enough

~wickerman~

2 words. Force Choke.

Maul loses to the cheap move.

Maul can force choke as well, he does it in Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

Force choke isn't incredibly effective against force users otherwise it would have been used against them more often

Yeah, but I think Vader has more raw power and a better ability to use it. In a contest between them of force-offensives (although I know that is not the only factor), I think Vader would win.

Fishy posted about two seconds before I did, so I will respond to his post (the last one was to Revan Darkstar). I think force-users can block force-offensives, but I think they can also be overcome if an opponent has superior Force power.

I agree...

Originally posted by Bobafetty
No. Maul does not pack a huge punch, he's just fast and does rapid hits but the're not that powerfull blows.

Doesn't matter how light the hit is, a lightsaber will hurt vader no matter how it hits, especially considering how fragile he is.

Vader's a better force user but not by much so it really doesn't matter. You have to have to be way stronger in the Force for it to make a difference and there isn't that much of a gap between Vader and Maul. Maul is a much better duelist so I would bet on him. I think Vader's only chance is outsmarting Maul, which would NOT be easy.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
You have to have to be way stronger in the Force for it to make a difference and there isn't that much of a gap between Vader and Maul.

I have to somewhat disagree with this, by using the argument of the initial fight in the ROTS with Obi Wan vs. Dooku

~wickerman~

Jah, but
A) Obi-Wan was weaker in the force to a greater degree.
B) Sidious was working with Dooku in this fight, though without Dooku's knowledge, in order to seduce Anakin.