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where they weak to sunlight?I always thought they where and thats why the Uraki where created.Am I right or wrong?

I'm not entirely sure ... they're deffinately not in the films, I always though the Urukhai were created beause they were better fighters ...

I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

i'd always thought orcs hated sunlight

wasn't it just the goblins that hated light?

One of the things that bothered me about the films was how they made it out to seem that Saruman created the Uruk-hai, when there are references throughout one, or two of the books recalling the "black Uruks of Mordor", or something of the like....

Originally posted by DCLXVI
One of the things that bothered me about the films was how they made it out to seem that Saruman created the Uruk-hai, when there are references throughout one, or two of the books recalling the "black Uruks of Mordor", or something of the like....
Yes, it was Sauron who created them, some centuries earlier... they were responsible for one of the first attacks on Osgiliath as far as I remember, that was in... 2475 TA? That's more than 500 years before the War of the Ring

Uh....exactly.

*Puts on hick-accent:*
Yeah, I loves them Mordor Orcs....

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

That book, has a lot of the author's own oppinion in it...and I don't think a lot of it is true to Tolkien. He just has a lot of ideas that's all.

Is their any definate proof they where weak too it?Like within the book?

Tolkien for example mentions it when the Fellowship leaves Moria I think they also used that in the film.
What sort of 'proof' are you looking for? A quote or what?

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure
Originally posted by Smodden
That book, has a lot of the author's own oppinion in it...and I don't think a lot of it is true to Tolkien. He just has a lot of ideas that's all.
yeah.. we should get exa to rewrite a proper version

Originally posted by Exabyte
Tolkien for example mentions it when the Fellowship leaves Moria I think they also used that in the film.
What sort of 'proof' are you looking for? A quote or what?

Kind of,but what you said helps a lot.

The only quote from the book I remember atm is when Aragorn says "The Orcs will not come out till after dusk, but we must be far away before nightfall" - I can't find the passage though where he directly states how the orcs hate sunlight.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I know middle earth for dummies says they where,but other than that,i'm not sure

is there really a book called "Middle Earth for Dummies" ??

Yes...and I own a copy.

oh my! ... I might go buy a copy ...

Originally posted by Smodden
Yes...and I own a copy. hehehehe....i was this close *puts forefinger and thumb microinches apart* to buying that book

instead i got a harlequin romance novel with fabulous fabio's pecs gracing the cover.....what?

but there is seriously a book called " middle earth for dummies"

actually there really is....at first when i saw a dummies book in the scifi/fantasy section, i thought someone had stocked it in the wrong place

sure enough, it was about middle earth...heh go figure

i might go check it out

i was actually thinking about buying it.....just to add to my growing collection on things Lord of the Ring

Originally posted by Flying High
but get some one to dumb it down....most of the time i hardly understand what Exa says
That's because I can't speak English


Middle-earth for Dummies? hyper I want that I want that *goes to search for it on Amazon*
*wonders if there's enough room left in her Tolkien bookshelf ermm*

Originally posted by DCLXVI
One of the things that bothered me about the films was how they made it out to seem that Saruman created the Uruk-hai, when there are references throughout one, or two of the books recalling the "black Uruks of Mordor", or something of the like....

yrah, that always annoyed me too ... fillm-makers licence!

Sunlight makes them lightheaded.

Middle Earth for dummies helped me understand a lot of things that originaly I was clueless about.

found it on amazon

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0764541862.01._PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_PE32_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Awesome.

yep

Originally posted by Exabyte
That's because I can't speak English


Middle-earth for Dummies? hyper I want that I want that *goes to search for it on Amazon*
*wonders if there's enough room left in her Tolkien bookshelf ermm*
no....it's cause she speak it far better than me lol...

Originally posted by mr.smiley
where they weak to sunlight?I always thought they where and thats why the Uraki where created.Am I right or wrong?

they hate sunlight because it makes them weak dude

Some one on the comic book versus forum told me I was stupid for thinkng that!

thats why there on the comic book versus forum and not here!

Well I guess I can put it to rest somewhat.
I'll give him the link!

I didnt get the feeling (during the movies) that Saruman originally created Urik-Hai. I mean when your mother makes a caserole dish you dont immediatly assume she was the original creator if it.

Discos - Saruman just wanted some Caserole

your mum makes caserole dishes

Caserole is awesome!

Tuna!

Where... where have the orcs suddenly disappeared to? cry

*in deep gravelly grunty voice*

I *pounds chest* Grishnakakaka am here *grunts*! Would the lady *grunts* likes some maggoty flesh *grunts* for lunches? *grunts*

*snickers*

yum