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he is just mucles i mean 0% of hereos have it nothing new can emerge with the hulk LoL

I don't understand what you mean. Explain.

With his powerset and feats he isent overated. What is overrated is when someone thinks he cant be bested physically or matched when he has in the past.

I dont think he is overated - what is actually overated is when somone perceives another being who ISN'T a charecter whose purpose is to be the physically strongest actually thinks such a being could match somone who IS...

yeah Hulk Smash.

Originally posted by Mainstream
yeah Hulk Smash.

Definitely. Go HULK!!!

he is overrated in the Versus forum

I don't think so. If anything, he's underrated.

Underrated my a** ...........
Someone in the vs forum actually mentioned that he is undefeatable in the means of sheer brute force

Well, I don't know about him being underrated or overrated, but
he is more than just muscles that's for sure.

genius scientist
near unlimited strength
rapid tissue-regenerative-powers
nigh-inexhaustible stamina
cunning mind

Plus he can jump real high. Can YOU jump real high? Didn't think so.

I can't do any of those things but the Hulk can. He has all of those abilities. That's not being overrated. Thats just being honest. He DOES have unlimited strength, he IS a genius, he DOES have accelerated healing and he CAN leap about 3 miles in one leap and run at speeds of up to 300 miles per hour. He is supposed to be the strongest being to have walked the face of the earth. What would you guys expect? Oh and in brute force and stength, he is undefeatable. No other characters strength compares to his.

What I don't understand is when Marvel created the Hulk SPECIFICALLY to be the strongest in the MU - have undisputed strength capacity - why people still insist that "no wait - your just a fan boy because you think Hulk is the strongest, and you think he's has unlimited strength blah blah" - We dont THINK - it is EXACTLY as MARVEL has stated - it is not an opinion - it is a FACT...so live with it peeps

"What I don't understand is when Marvel created the Hulk SPECIFICALLY to be the strongest in the MU - have undisputed strength capacity - why people still insist that "no wait - your just a fan boy because you think Hulk is the strongest, and you think he's has unlimited strength blah blah" - We dont THINK - it is EXACTLY as MARVEL has stated - it is not an opinion - it is a FACT...so live with it
peeps "

Because they created and use other characters that can match him and beat him maybe?

Originally posted by Grammaton
What I don't understand is when Marvel created the Hulk SPECIFICALLY to be the strongest in the MU - have undisputed strength capacity - why people still insist that "no wait - your just a fan boy because you think Hulk is the strongest, and you think he's has unlimited strength blah blah" - We dont THINK - it is EXACTLY as MARVEL has stated - it is not an opinion - it is a FACT...so live with it peeps

Right on man. I'm with you 100%.

Originally posted by Grammaton
What I don't understand is when Marvel created the Hulk SPECIFICALLY to be the strongest in the MU - have undisputed strength capacity - why people still insist that "no wait - your just a fan boy because you think Hulk is the strongest, and you think he's has unlimited strength blah blah" - We dont THINK - it is EXACTLY as MARVEL has stated - it is not an opinion - it is a FACT...so live with it peeps

and FACTS >>>>>>>OPINIONS

FACT :THE HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS

OPINIONS : HE IS NOT ? (WHO CARES?)

FACTS ABOVE OPINIONS

You mean like the facts showed in comics? ok

""Everytime Hulk Smashes a powerful character, too many posters are saying jobbing this, jobbing that, poor writing, etc. Hulk is not simply the strongest of all, he is the closest thing to invincible if he is written to his potential (which is limitless and transcends mere science and logistics) and correctly. The worst "jobbing" ever is when some writer has Hulk "lose" a battle. So when when "jobbing" is thrown around, put the Hulk on the top of the list."


by hulkrulesall

Thats from Alvaro`s board yeah.

Congratulations you know how to do a search.

The fact that the Hulk DOES somtimes get beaten in comics does NOT reflect the FACT that he potentially can surpass ANYONE...

Time and time again the Hulk has performed feats which even combined forces of many are unable to accomplish (Onslaught etc.) - little facts some tend to overlook...

I concead he does have limitess strenght. Beyonder saying it its enought. Now about beating everyone, no. There are other beings with that powerset.

The overratiness comes from pll thinking that since Hulk has unlimited streght he can get that level when he wants.

Tell me, does Hulk have unlimited rage? Thats what fuels his strenght. Rage. While he does have infinite proportion to strenght, he also has the setback that his rage isent unilimited. Didnt Pad in his first run made Hulk state when talking about a demoniac being IIRC, that he could get angry for weeks and he wouldnt still reach -that- beings level.

"Time and time again the Hulk has performed feats which even combined forces of many are unable to accomplish (Onslaught etc.) - little facts some tend to overlook..."

Wer there any other heroes of his level of strenght when he and Onslaught attacked? Thor and the Avengers wer not even there. Who was there with the Hulk. Jean?

And dont start saying he won the slugfest...

The Hulk as yet has NEVER reached a limit to his strength and that would correspond with he has NEVER reached a limit to his rage...So can you tell me that his rage is UNLIMITED - i think not...

Back to the feats of the Hulk - there is no way Thor could strike with as much force as an enraged Hulk. If you would like some examples of feats performed by the Hulk that Thor could only dream of accomplishing - I would be more than happy to show you.

For example - PUNCHING his way out of a time storm?

http://img219.echo.cx/img219/9757/featstimestorm9qs.jpg

Originally posted by Grammaton
For example - PUNCHING his way out of a time storm?

http://img219.echo.cx/img219/9757/featstimestorm9qs.jpg


Never pretend to be someone else

"For example - PUNCHING his way out of a time storm?

http://img219.echo.cx/img219/9757/featstimestorm9qs.jpg"

Thats exactly where im getting at. He reached that level for some moments and then what happened next? He passed out. With the orbs feat, what happened? He was losing it.

Rage from what i gather isnt unlimited even for the Hulk. So while he gets there, he doesnt stay on that level for long and surely doesnt surpass it.

"So can you tell me that his rage is UNLIMITED - i think not..."

Thats exactly what im asking. He did make reference during PAds run about some being where he said he could be angry for weeks, and wouldnt still - surpass - its level.

Ill try to get into more detail on that, but while it has been stated his strenght to be limitess, has his rage been stated as the same?

His strength doesn't only fluctuate with his anger - moments of stress, anxiety, fear etc can also induce adrenaline which corresponds to strength increase - the reason why there is no limit to the his rage is because Bruce Banner was created specifically as somone with severe psychophrenia and MPD - this is to give him an edge over a "normal" indivdual with no mental problems - again I ask you WHEN has the Hulk's strength/rage limit ever been shown? Being called an "infinity of power" by the Beyonder no less has great implications of the Hulk's "limits" - and that is evident that he does not have one.

So he doenst get stronger the angrier he gets?

Mind you that a fairly calm Hulk got knocked out by Samson and a pissed one not only beat him but was also stalemating the Avengers.

His strenght, while its limitess, the conduit for it might not be. Thats why he wouldnt be able to attain those levels all the time. Wich he doesnt.

Gamma radiation is what gave banner the potential. Rage is what increases it. Thats why some versions of hulk are more powerful than others.

Having a dimension of limitess strenght inside you and being able to exerce it its not the same thing, for all i know rage or lack of its its his setback.

Your opinion on the Hulk's rage being a weakness or somthing that is not limited I am afraid is only opinion. As of yet he has not reached a limit to his rage and there has never been any indication as to him reaching one. So why would anyone think any different? For all we know the boundries of emotions could be limitless.

Except you already have a statement printed in his comic not contradicted so far that it isent.

About his strenght. I have no questions. I accepted it. And so the rest.

Originally posted by Grammaton
Your opinion on the Hulk's rage being a weakness or somthing that is not limited I am afraid is only opinion. As of yet he has not reached a limit to his rage and there has never been any indication as to him reaching one. So why would anyone think any different? For all we know the boundries of emotions could be limitless.

Exactly. The Hulk has NEVER shown any limit to his strength or rage so therefore it means that he has no limit to either one.

Originally posted by Scoobless
he is overrated in the Versus forum
He is overrated in the versus by FANBOYS.

But he is powerful, like superman, so I can understand.

He's not half as bad as wolverine though...

People who do a good job supporting hulk are the usual.

Cosmic Cube is a fan of the hulk, but he admits that hulk can lose, but people who support wolverine?

AAAAGH!!!