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All the time I hear people defend movies and music and say that

There have been many arguments as to whether movies, tv and music influence the decisions and actions that youths take in North America. (I am sure this debate goes on across the pond, but I have no experience of that so I can't comment about it.)

I find it amusing when people say that these media influences have absolutely no role in how kids act. "It only influences children who were more inclined to act that way anyhow" is a common response.

But something interesting happened to me the other day. It was my folks 45th anniversary, so I thought I'd go get them a nice bottle of wine that they could both enjoy together. I walked into the store, asked for the wine expert and told him to please give me the lowdown as to which wine was not only worth the money that I was willing to spend, but also which wine was most appropriate to the situation.

In our discussion of fine wines, I asked if the movie Sideways had any influence over wine sales. The guy laughed and told me that he can't keep california wines in stock now, that everyone drinks pinot, and that they can't move merlot because of the one scene in that movie. So here we had adults whose buying decisions and preferences were dictated by a movie.

Why do people find it so difficult to believe that the same thing isn't happening with youths?

the media dictates trends and what is hip.
as i always have said, the culprits are conveniently overlooked, like gangsta scumbag rap shit as a shining example. its so frikin obvious its a direct influence on the decline of youth today. the magnitude in which every media outlet crams this pimp/whore culture is so immense that its impossible to avoid. not only that, but we are raising a nation of consumer junkies, only interested in material posessions, and have no interest in thinking for themselves, but would rather have the t.v. tell them what they want. combine those 2 elements and you get disaster. but who cares? lets just blame video games and ignore the blatent problem...

absolutely media has the greatest influence over people who dont think.

Valid points. If media influence didn't exist then there wouldn't be as much if any media advertising because if the success rate was low and no or little profit was amassed from the influence it wouldn't necessitate the sheer amount of advertising.

Note: advertising can be anything and through any media, for a person, product, lifestyle, culture, information etc and multimedia just makes it easier. It doesn't have to be direct but companies don't give free products to celebs for nothing or pay sponsorships to get their stuff in films, music videos or at publciised events etc.

the media puts stuff out like that,but sometimes trends do happen without any true intention.

Originally posted by PVS lets just blame video games and ignore the blatent problem...Aren't video games a form of media?

Anyhow, on topic. Me thinks that the media is a huge influence on people. From the way we speak, words we use, way we dress, things we by. Everyone in one way or another is influenced by some form of media.

But, I also think that the extent of that influence really lies with that person that's receiving it. So, for that reason I think it's unfair to lie the blame solely on the media (be it a video and/or rap music :rolleyes for any problems we're having with our children.

On the other hand, like I said, while the blame can't be placed solely at the front door of the media, it's doesn't make a parent/guardians job easy to raise intelligent, socially conscious children when you've got Paris Hilton seeming like the social norm and kids not even flinching at beating a hooker to death in a video game. (For the record, I love Grand Theft Auto Vice City. Almost made it to 1 million kills. *feels important*)

Now, before I leave, you have to know that this is just my opinion which admittedly isn't worth much. I'm not a psychologist/specialist, I haven't done any research, and I haven't read any of the research that is out there. I could, but seeing as this is a small blip of a forum seen only by people that I don't know nor will ever meet, I figure it doesn't warrant that kind of energy. Good day.

I think media does influence many people. I think that children are more prone to it because of their age though. But everything these days can have subliminal messages. Even disney has hidden things in it, so people just pick up on it, and others don't, it might have to do with how your brain functions itself.

Trainspotting is a good example of that. At some points in the film, it definetly did make you want to try heroin.

Sideways

wow, another movie i have to NOT see.
a film about drinking wine. wtf is this world coming to?
i hate frikin yuppies

Originally posted by PVS
wow, another movie i have to NOT see.
a film about drinking wine. wtf is this world coming to?
i hate frikin yuppies

Actually its a quite funny movie, I really enjoyed watching it...now I don't drink alcohol out of principle but if I would I would drink pinot noir

because of this, im going to go buy a nice bottle merlot
my favorite...and now i like it even more

Misconception PVS, the movie isn't about drinking wine. It's about people whos hobby is drinking wine, nothing more.

It's actually an outstanding movie, one of the best from last year, and this is coming from someone who doesn't know shit about wine.

BF is right its more aboot the people and it was <really good although it didn't have lightsabres and Yodas

Originally posted by Bardock42
...although it didn't have lightsabres and Yodas

well who the f*** cares then? im not watching it

I suggest ppl leave the discussion about the influences of movies and media to the real scietists

hi wat do peeps wanna chat about

Originally posted by Fire
I suggest ppl leave the discussion about the influences of movies and media to the real scietists

We did, we are talking aboot lightsabres now

i wanna pink light saber

Still a lot ppl sell (what my professor always called/calls) a lot of Horse Shit about this topic.

Great link Bardock, it was damn funny. As for Sideways, it was a good movie, but it is pathetic that people are going out of their way to bring that reality to their life.

I used to be a fly-fishing guide, actually I still guide a few weeks out of the year up in the northwest territories. The movie a river runs through it did for fly fishing what Sideways did for whine. I had people talking to me all the time how they took up the sport because it was such a great movie and then waxed philosophically about the zen of fly fishing and it's meaning in life. All I could think is, you're all turd brains, and as much as I love what I'm doing, lemmings like you sort of cheapen it for me.

Hmm but I belive thats kind of what we are (some more some less), we see something that we think is cool we try to copy it (or am I the only one drying to be a 3 foot tall green jedi master?)

Ofcourse the media has a huge influece. That's why now it's cool to be a stupid liberal..

Originally posted by Big Evil
Ofcourse the media has a huge influece. That's why now it's cool to be a stupid liberal..

Originally posted by Big Evil
Ofcourse the media has a huge influece. That's why now it's cool to be a stupid liberal..

....what is with you and your stupidly ignorant comments?

Anyway, yes, the media does have an influence on people. You'd be stupid to deny it. People just like to use it as a scapegoat for everything.

I just don't think you could blame things such as murder on media influence.

Originally posted by silver_tears
I just don't think you could blame things such as murder on media influence.

Agreed 100%

Originally posted by Lana
....what is with you and your stupidly ignorant comments?

Perhaps the direct result of being stupidly ignorant?

Originally posted by silver_tears
I just don't think you could blame things such as murder on media influence.

I agree.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Perhaps the direct result of being stupidly ignorant?

Perhaps

people who believe what the media tells them, are fools

Originally posted by Deano
people who believe what the media tells them, are fools


indeed




http://www.rense.com

Originally posted by silver_tears
I just don't think you could blame things such as murder on media influence.

Why not? Kids these days have seen hundreds of murders on television, and its hard to believe this wouldnt influence them. Im not saying a kid is gonna commit murder just because of what he/she sees on tv, but it might help an already troubled child over the brink

If you guys want to talk about media influence, that let's talk about Fox News, and their most recent bullshit tactic. We've all seen the headlines they use at the bottom of the screen...you know, the headline that reads: 'LIBERAL CHICKENS CAUSE BIRD FLU' or 'KATRINA ACT OF GOD BECAUSE NEW ORLEANS GAY'

Well, now they've gone one step further and decided to use a new graphic. It's larger than the rest, white and stamped sideways OVER the headline...and it flashes. In discussing a plot to assasinate President Bush, by some muslim extremist, the stamp reads DEMS DOUBT!

WTF?!?! People, Fox News MUST be destroyed.

some people love shit like fox news.
where else can you see such charming personalities
like ann coulter and bill oreilly? who else would have them?
they love to watch and pretend to form their own opinion,
too dumb as shit to understand what 'bias' is, and all too
willing to demonise half of an entire nation they claim to love.

Well since we are talking about media influence you gotta love the series Drawn Together! Classic political/society satire discovered in the guise of cartoon

...or we could just stay on topic

Yup if you have seen the series then you would know it is on topic.....its media

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If you guys want to talk about media influence, that let's talk about Fox News, and their most recent bullshit tactic. We've all seen the headlines they use at the bottom of the screen...you know, the headline that reads: 'LIBERAL CHICKENS CAUSE BIRD FLU' or 'KATRINA ACT OF GOD BECAUSE NEW ORLEANS GAY'

Well, now they've gone one step further and decided to use a new graphic. It's larger than the rest, white and stamped sideways OVER the headline...and it flashes. In discussing a plot to assasinate President Bush, by some muslim extremist, the stamp reads DEMS DOUBT!

WTF?!?! People, Fox News MUST be destroyed.


That'S funny......Fox NEws is funny...I am laughing.....

And what about CNN?

'The battle for Irak!'
This stood as a title while the news was playin' 'bout Irak.

How arrogant can U be? When u call a conflict like that a battle u gotta be crazy!

Originally posted by Da preacher
And what about CNN?

'The battle for Irak!'
This stood as a title while the news was playin' 'bout Irak.

How arrogant can U be? When u call a conflict like that a battle u gotta be crazy!
I don't get what you are saying....how's that ignorant?

ARROGANT!
Can't u ****in' read?

EDIT: Sorry, had a bad day.

Originally posted by Da preacher
ARROGANT!
Can't u ****in' read?

EDIT: Sorry, had a bad day.

Good God, I mispelled......let me ask again "How is that arrogant?"

Originally posted by Da preacher
And what about CNN?

'The battle for Irak!'
This stood as a title while the news was playin' 'bout Irak.

How arrogant can U be? When u call a conflict like that a battle u gotta be crazy!

Originally posted by Da preacher
ARROGANT!
Can't u ****in' read?

EDIT: Sorry, had a bad day.

it seems you are lost.
perhaps i can assist
*points to OTF*

Originally posted by PVS
it seems you are lost.
perhaps i can assist
*points to OTF*

Why? I just don't understand how he meant it, it sees to fit this thread though, does it not?

I know this is off topic but does anyone have T9 messaging. My girlfriend told me to get it but I don't even know what it is.

Originally posted by Da preacher
And what about CNN?

'The battle for Irak!'
This stood as a title while the news was playin' 'bout Irak.

How arrogant can U be? When u call a conflict like that a battle u gotta be crazy!

Okay, then do find out what headline FOX News had emblazzoned across the bottom of their screen when the battle for Iraq was happening. I'm sure it was something like: JESUS' WAR FOR CHRISTIAN SUPERIORITY RAGES ON THE FIELDS OF HEATHEN IRAQ

Originally posted by longshanks
I know this is off topic but does anyone have T9 messaging. My girlfriend told me to get it but I don't even know what it is.

How weird. That's the second random T9 mention.


I think Lana summed it up.

There is definitely an influence imparted by the media, hence the obscene advertising budgets of huge companies.

However, it has become an easy explanation for the actions of people that aren't willing to bear responsibility for their choices.

Good topic though. It's a massive subject, and I doubt it will be covered very well after looking over what has been written up until now.

Eh, speaking of that media. Ah wanna talk abaht tha' David Bloonket.

Is oop to his ol' tricks again sadleh.

-AC

ok, its quiz time.
look at these two screencaps from the "bias liberal" nbc.
both from the same story regarding the same protest.
keep in mind, this is an anti-bush protest.
see if you can smell the shit:

mother to a fallen soldier who is anti-bush
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/bias1.jpg

pro-bush demonstrator
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/bias2.jpg

smell it? shit

Well, it doesnt say that either of them are anti or pro bush, if thats what you're getting at

Tell us what you smell PVS....

i actually posted this in the wrong thread.

here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=329050&pagenumber=5#post5307922

eat

Hey, I know this is off-topic, but I found smilies which sum up the difference between the GDF and the OTF:

GDF:

tabletalkranting

OTF:

gatheringJumpy




The key is the status of the eyes for the smilies at the table.

Okay, I'm done.

Originally posted by botankus
eat

Hey, I know this is off-topic, but I found smilies which sum up the difference between the GDF and the OTF:

GDF:

tabletalkranting

OTF:

gatheringJumpy




The key is the status of the eyes for the smilies at the table.

Okay, I'm done.

I know it's Off-Topic, but I found the Off-Topic Forum, where this post belongs.

No, it doesn't, because I wanted people who knew something about message boards to read it. In the OTF it would have dissolved into oblilvion.

Originally posted by botankus
No, it doesn't, because I wanted people who knew something about message boards to read it. In the OTF it would have dissolved into oblilvion.

Must have missed the time your opinion decided what is GDF material and what isn't

On that note, Bardock, you can go back to your table ----> gathering

Originally posted by botankus
On that note, Bardock, you can go back to your table ----> gathering




cry ....NOOOO...I am one of you

because no one wants to blame the parents for not parenting.

aka cookie monster isnt allowed to eat cookies anymore. why? because he causes childhood obesity, so now he has to eat healthy food.

parents just sit their kids down in front of the tv all day, and thats the end of it. they dont want to do their job, and they dont want to admit its their fault, so they point the finger at everyone else

Originally posted by KharmaDog
All the time I hear people defend movies and music and say that

There have been many arguments as to whether movies, tv and music influence the decisions and actions that youths take in North America. (I am sure this debate goes on across the pond, but I have no experience of that so I can't comment about it.)

I find it amusing when people say that these media influences have absolutely no role in how kids act. "It only influences children who were more inclined to act that way anyhow" is a common response.

But something interesting happened to me the other day. It was my folks 45th anniversary, so I thought I'd go get them a nice bottle of wine that they could both enjoy together. I walked into the store, asked for the wine expert and told him to please give me the lowdown as to which wine was not only worth the money that I was willing to spend, but also which wine was most appropriate to the situation.

In our discussion of fine wines, I asked if the movie Sideways had any influence over wine sales. The guy laughed and told me that he can't keep california wines in stock now, that everyone drinks pinot, and that they can't move merlot because of the one scene in that movie. So here we had adults whose buying decisions and preferences were dictated by a movie.

Why do people find it so difficult to believe that the same thing isn't happening with youths?

If you're too much of an impressionable idiot to watch Sideways, then don't.

...

Originally posted by XCall 0f KtuluX
If you're too much of an impressionable idiot to watch Sideways, then don't.

I am sure you see this as a blindingly witty response to my post........






but it isn't.