Things Get Ugly on the Senate Floor Over Patriot Act

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PVS
it seems that republican have now officially adopted the 'oreilly method' of debate. messed
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050611/ap_on_go_co/uncivil_hearing_4



GOP Chairman Walks Out of Meeting

By Jim Abrams / Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The Republican chairman walked off with the gavel, leaving Democrats shouting into turned-off microphones at a raucous hearing Friday on the Patriot Act.

The House Judiciary Committee hearing, with the two sides accusing each other of being irresponsible and undemocratic, came as President Bush was urging Congress to renew those sections of the post-Sept. 11 counterterrorism law set to expire in September.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the panel, abruptly gaveled the meeting to an end and walked out, followed by other Republicans. Sensenbrenner declared that much of the testimony, which veered into debate over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, was irrelevant.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., protested, raising his voice as his microphone went off, came back on, and went off again.

"We are not besmirching the honor of the United States, we are trying to uphold it," he said.

Democrats asked for the hearing, the 11th the committee has held on the act since April, saying past hearings had been too slanted toward witnesses who supported the law. The four witnesses were from groups, including Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, that have questioned the constitutionality of some aspects of the act, which allows law enforcement greater authority to investigate suspected terrorists.

Nadler said Sensenbrenner, one of the authors of the Patriot Act, was "rather rude, cutting everybody off in mid-sentence with an attitude of total hostility."

Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."

Sensenbrenner's spokesman, Jeff Lungren, said the hearing had lasted two hours and "the chairman was very accommodating, giving members extra time."

James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.

Tex
Outrageous! schmoll

carnival_junkie
Things SHOULD get ugly over the Patriot Act...

Do you guys not find it at all unsettling that our congressmen dont READ the freaking bills they pass?

Tptmanno1
Sweet..
At last their actually DOING something...
This'll never make the news though... Arguing with Bush? Can't have that...

Lana
Walking out of a discussion because people are disagreeing with you? I'd think that a senator could act older than a kindergartner.....

Darth Jello
my poly sci proffessor called washington DC "the sandbox" when he was a lobbyist. it's cause it's adults acting like a bunch of mother****ing kids.

Bardock42
Hmm I am glad tol see that politicians are able to have a mature and calm conversation

Fire
here things get vicious too but the opposition would sink the government in the media if this happened

jaden101
petty bickering is never going to make things better for anyone... neither will blatent exagerrations such as guantanamo bay as a gulag....gulags were used much like nazi death camps and were responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people... what you dont hear about in the press about guantanamo is the afghanis who learned to read and write while held there

im not saying guantanamo is a good solution and i also condemn both the forms of torturing that go on there but even more the fact that people were transferred from guantanamo to countries that allow more extreme torture....see the link

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1357699,00.html

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