eternals VS. the new gods

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colossus17
all of the earth and titan eternals(even dead)).including thanos (regular), VS. all of the new gods of genesis and apokolips(even dead)........debate

colossus17
shifty

DarkCrawler
Eternals.

colossus17
explain.......y.just becasue of the matter manipulation?

leonidas
great matchup colossus! i think i'd have to go with the new gods here. high father is, i believe, more powerful than any eternal, and orion could cause a lot of damage as well. despite darkseid's power downgrade, he is still a force to be reckoned with as well, not least for his intelligence. i think the new gods relationship with the source is another key factor in this battle. jack kirby would be proud to see this thread though, and i wonder what the king would say?

whirlysplat
I posted this thread a while back

leonidas
oh. good thread whirly!

smile

Khellendros
I'm going with the Eternals too. The whole matter manipulation, total control over their body's molecular structure and everything else makes them incredibly hard to beat.

Cosmic Cube
Eternals are invulnerable, and they don't die. Eros will leave all of the New Gods on the ground in violent orgasms while the remainder of the Eternals wipe them out.

leonidas
hmm, i think some here aren't fully familiar with the new gods and their powers.

here are just some of the 'toys' the new gods could bring to bear in a war:

http://fastbak.tripod.com/ngterms.htm

the eternals are 'virtually' immortal - they can be kiled. the kree killed many of the uranian eternals when they warred because the eternals were using kree technology to build a ship to return to earth. thanos would be a problem, of course, but highfather is odin level, and can chanel power (unlimited??) from the source. (i assume this IS classic new gods, where highfather is still alive??)

and who the hell is gonna stop the blackracer?? his touch is death, he can travel faster than light, and most of the eternals can barely break the sound barrier! the new gods have mother boxes which can adapt to most situations and provide tons of info and strategies for any battle, along with any of the weapons shown in the link above. and please, no one tell me darkseid's omega effect won't hurt any of them. not sure if darkseid's slaves would be part of this (they certainly would in a real comic battle) - if he could use boom tubes an army of parademons would certainly turn the tide as well. then there is the infinity man, another near-highfather level being.

the eternals are tough, granted, but the new gods were kirby's first and greatest love, and i believe he made them more powerful than his marvel counterparts.

just my 2 cents.

Mider
Since when Has Highfather become Odin level? What Level does that make Darkseid?

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by Mider
Since when Has Highfather become Odin level? What Level does that make Darkseid?

He isn't. Darkseid is below Superman. big grin

colossus17
everyone is below superman..... shifty

Cosmic Cube
Originally posted by colossus17
everyone is below superman..... shifty

Truth be told...

o.g. slaughter
i dont much but aout either any bios on them and pics if u hav any. preciate ya

Beyonder
Is this with or without prep? With tech?

Anyways:

Highfather, Takion, Stayne, Darkseid, Orion, & the rest of the New Gods

Vs.

Zuras, Mentor, Thanos, Eros, Sersi, Thena, Ikarus, & the rest of the New Gods

The problem here is NG have four supposedly skyfather level beings. Eternals have 2-3 at best - unless we're using Ikarus as Prime Eternal.

Also if anyones throwing in Yuga Khan for the NG - the Eternals can use Chronos.

It's pretty even.

colossus17
no prep, with tech......

Beyonder
Originally posted by colossus17
no prep, with tech......

Not sure than. The NG have some highly advanced weapons.

The Eternal's don't, except Thanos. Not sure how Thanos' tech would do against the NG. His armadas are damn powerful but would it be enough?

colossus17
nope....people give thanos to much credit.......he is just an eternal....yeah he is way stronger and smarter......but still an eternal.....the new gods have a direct link to the source wall.......

Beyonder
Originally posted by colossus17
nope....people give thanos to much credit.......he is just an eternal....yeah he is way stronger and smarter......but still an eternal.....the new gods have a direct link to the source wall.......

And what have they done actually with the Source? Thanos is a mutant Eternal who got a power up from Death.

If you think he's just an Eternal, than your going by labels and titles and disregarding actual feats.

Highfather barely did a thing. Zuras, weakenned, still managed stalemated Zeus. Darkseid is powerful, but his recent showings were horrible. Stayne and Takion haven't done much to impress any one. Of everyone in this fight, Thanos has the best feats.

colossus17
never said he didnt......but people compare him to a high level cosmic being......

leonidas
through his staff highfather can directly tap power from the source. he's a pacifist and rarely does so, but in these forum-type situations where any possible once-displayed power can be used, he could channel almost infinite power from the source. using this power he would certainly be above thanos. and as i said, blackracer alone would decimate the eternals. metron is another anamoly. along with the near-skyfather level infinity man darkseid and thier tech, i really can't see NG losing this.

oh, and i agree entirely with the above . . .

colossus17
that is correct.......also the amount of cosmic energy....that thanos can tap into is finite.......the source is infinite.....highfather using his full potential....is above odin or zeus

leonidas
agreed.

hoorayforpeepee
you guys are forgetting makkari...that guy is more speedster than ANYBODY from the new gods can handle.

that being said, new gods 7/10, du to highfather.

colossus17
yeah so he is fast.....the new gods mother boxes can teleport...them....any where in the universe

leonidas
and mak sure as hell ain't faster than the racer . . .

hoorayforpeepee
makkari beat the runner in a race. nuff said.

colossus17
true.....but it dosent mean anything............i wonder if he can run with broken legs......

hoorayforpeepee
he's still an eternal, which means high durability and regeneration that makes the hulk look like a band-aid donning kid in a helmet.

K Von Doom
How are you gonna break his legs when you can't catch him?

colossus17
i was being sarcastic..........

leonidas
the racer travels differently. he can sort of be anywhere he needs to be. in any event, supposing he can evade the racer, what's mak gonna do alone when all the other eternals have fallen?

Beyonder
Originally posted by colossus17
yeah so he is fast.....the new gods mother boxes can teleport...them....any where in the universe

Thanos can teleport back. And it's nice they're bringing in the mother box. Thanos shows up with his clones and the New Gods are f#ck. Who wants a piece of Omega?

colossus17
thanos will die i hate him and he has a weird color.....also he wants to f**k an abstract being.......i mean like i know he dosent get p**sy on titan .but common....... (*waiting to be attacked by fanboys*)

Beyonder
Originally posted by colossus17
thanos will die i hate him and he has a weird color.....also he wants to f**k an abstract being.......i mean like i know he dosent get p**sy on titan .but common....... (*waiting to be attacked by fanboys*)

Thanos thinks big. Plus Mistress Death in human form is pretty hot. Thanos, however, probably likes the skeletal version - he's one dirty bastard. wink

colossus17
indeed he is

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