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No prep.

Who wins?

Thor I still think hulk would fear the hammer

1. it has been done 3765 times , use the search function. 2. both of them are complete idiots like prep would help them anyway......

Thor smash green man!.....Thor smash!!!thor wins.......not easy though

hulk would get too strong and need to be teleported somewhere, thor jus isnt in the same physical league as hulk

It will be tough for Thor to win against Savage Hulk. With Hulk's unlimited strength, only few can outlast him. I think Thor must really hold on to that hammer or it will be nighty night for him. And with no prep and all, Hulk is just too tough and too strong...Savage Hulk wins in a slim margin.

Originally posted by colossus17
1. it has been done 3765 times , use the search function. 2. both of them are complete idiots like prep would help them anyway......
Oh ? Since when is Thor an idiot ?

if thor cuts loose he is way too much for the hulk,the trouble is they virtually always fight on earth where thor really cant let go of his full range of powers in case he causes too much damage,if they were to be fighting in a place where thor could really cut loose then it has to be thor.

Hulk would win this one.

Thor wins, all day every day.
Hulk is terrified of his hammer, it's the one thing Hulk fears.

Hell, Thor stalemates Hulk in h2h 99% of the time.

hulk is out of thors league physically, all he can do is teleport him about with his hammer. hulk also beat him to near death once. he may have more powers but in a fight he cant win without using other powers than his strength im afraid

hulk won five times against Thor and Thor won two times only. And the last fight in hulk annual 2001, we don 't know if Thor is still alive.

hulk smash thor

Hulk had the read advantage over Thor in the 2001 annual. The rest was practically stalemates.

The other where he got the slight upper hand also was in a story drawn by Erik Larsen showcasing a young, inexperient Thor.

Other than that, they had always had virtual stalemates.

hulk smash again

thor is dead?

you want a proof go to http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulksmashes.html

you will see that hulk won 5 times against thor and thor only two times

That site isent accurate. They also give Hulk two wins against Hercules and he only has one when Herc was mortal.

( hercules/hulk unleashed )

Most of hulk "wins" wer given because " Thor dropped the hammer " Thats not a win. Thats getting a upperhand. A win is either the other quitting or being beaten so much he cant go on ( bruised or by field removal ) or laying uncoscious in the ground.

How many times has the hulk really left the battlefiled with Thor kockout or admiting he couldnt go on?

Other than the 2001 annual where i actually belive to be a win ( been some time since i read it tho ).

Finally hulk is the stronger because his strength is limitless, he can beat anyone. The madder he get the stronger he get

And again there are more extreme lifting feats than that one. And Thor is one of them that has it.

he lift 150 billions tons mountains range and more if he wants. Nobody doesn't know his strength limit.

Originally posted by olympian
That site isent accurate. They also give Hulk two wins against Hercules and he only has one when Herc was mortal.

( hercules/hulk unleashed )

Most of hulk "wins" wer given because " Thor dropped the hammer " Thats not a win. Thats getting a upperhand. A win is either the other quitting or being beaten so much he cant go on ( bruised or by field removal ) or laying uncoscious in the ground.

How many times has the hulk really left the battlefiled with Thor kockout or admiting he couldnt go on?

Other than the 2001 annual where i actually belive to be a win ( been some time since i read it tho ).

Originally posted by savage hulk

in this fight thor dropped his hammer?

or this?

Originally posted by savage hulk
or this?

see

with thor 's hammer

Was he knocked out in those? No

Lifting wise Thor lifting The midgard serpent makes that 150 mountain range looks like a "nice" feat.

hulk beat thor with his hammer or not, it' s the same thing hulk smas thor

hulk in the stronger in the marvel universe

sorry hulk is the stronger in the marvel universe all people say the same thing

even thanos are afraid to fight hulk too.

No. All Hulk fans say the same thing Ask the others and you know what theyll say.

What Hulk have is the potential to become stronger than guys like Herc and Thor. But he rarely has ever reached that level. And definatly never against Thor. Or immortal hercules.

hulk smash

Originally posted by olympian
No. All Hulk fans say the same thing Ask the others and you know what theyll say.

What Hulk have is the potential to become stronger than guys like Herc and Thor. But he rarely has ever reached that level. And definatly never against Thor. Or immortal hercules.
not fans hulk say this, it 's marvel encyclopedia say that hulk is the stronger in the marvel universe.

Originally posted by savage hulk
not fans hulk say this, it 's marvel encyclopedia say that hulk is the stronger in the marvel universe.
You know all those scans THor is holding back, and Hulk doesn't win.

Punching thor , and knocking his out are two different things.

Thor has knocked Thor with few blasts

And the comics shows he isent. That he has been beaten and overcomed.

He is at the top, but there are others to hang with him.

he 's breaking open Onslaught's armor when the combined might of the rest of the world's heroes couldn't even make a scratch in it. What about this?

Originally posted by kgkg
You know all those scans THor is holding back, and Hulk doesn't win.

Punching thor , and knocking his out are two different things.

Thor has knocked Thor with few blasts

Originally posted by savage hulk

thor win?

well, the debate is over

Theyr both impressive. Thor just has more ways to win with powers and Hulk with slugfest.

It will always be close tho Good thread.

Originally posted by savage hulk

did you read that issue?

i have it, Thor knocks Hulk out cold like Twice

and that scan Thor get's rite back up

he has also telepoty hulk to far away planets , he can leave him there for a win as well.

Originally posted by olympian
No. All Hulk fans say the same thing Ask the others and you know what theyll say.

What Hulk have is the potential to become stronger than guys like Herc and Thor. But he rarely has ever reached that level. And definatly never against Thor. Or immortal hercules.
have you read hulk-hercules unleashed? hercules would be die if zeus don 't interfere

i see you don't read this comics.

Originally posted by kgkg
did you read that issue?

i have it, Thor knocks Hulk out cold like Twice

and that scan Thor get's rite back up

he has also telepoty hulk to far away planets , he can leave him there for a win as well.
but at the end hulk beat thor and thor still alive?

?

Originally posted by savage hulk
but at the end hulk beat thor and thor still alive?
at te end THor is still up.


tho many things happen.

1) thor teleports him far far away. ( if thor leave hulk there he can't come back ) therefore Thor wins
2) Thor did knock Hulk out cold. etc.
3) After While Hulk get's up and stats pounding Thor , and leave , Thor get's rite back up.

i know but hulk smash thor by ko

so hulk is the stronger but not powerfull

than thor

Originally posted by savage hulk
?
he isn't knocked out in fact Hulk was knocked out by Thor in the same issue

par le boo koo ah hawhaw french wine.

Hulk can't win against someone as powerful as Thor.
Hulk is like andre the giant, Thor is like mike tyson with a shotgun, Andre is stronger, but he's gonna die.

Originally posted by long pig
par le boo koo ah hawhaw french wine.

Hulk can't win against someone as powerful as Thor.
Hulk is like andre the giant, Thor is like mike tyson with a shotgun, Andre is stronger, but he's gonna die.

An infinitely strong Andre the Giant.

...Who would most likely lose to Thor.

well thor would win by teleporting hulk, however thor would not win a brawl with hulk, hulk can get as strong as he needs to to kick the pants off thor, and as he is getting angrier would be more powerful physically and thats the end of it. hul would never be written killing tor as is aso regarded as a hero and therefore wont ever do too much dammage to one of marvels top table guys

"have you read hulk-hercules unleashed? hercules would be die if zeus don 't interfere"

Yes i have. That wasent immortal hercules.

Wich by the way you would knew if you had read it.....

hulk owns thor or herc

He hasent owned any of the two so far. And hes not going to own Herc if he couldnt even Ko Herc when hes at his weakest.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
hulk owns thor or herc
herc ok, not thor

Not even Herc since he never beat him.

Originally posted by olympian
He hasent owned any of the two so far. And hes not going to own Herc if he couldnt even Ko Herc when hes at his weakest.

the byrne's animal, the mindlesshulk, owned two avengers teams plus Doc Samson......Hercules was not an exception

Hulk alone owned 14 heroes in that situation.

in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)

Onwing its completly -beating- an opponent. He owned Doc Samson and Namor. Herc was until the very end the guy who was punched by the Hulk, got up and punched the Hulk back. Thats not a owning. Thats fighting toe to toe.

"in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)"

You mean like Hercules did in the issue before when he went alone against the Hulk and hurt him twice? The same Hulk that was still fresh from the battlesof after? hmmmmm

And get real. Two whole avengers team that werent worth a thing. 12 guys and gals where only 3 ( Herc, She Hulk, Wman ) where at Hulks level? Even Namor was out due to the heat stealing his strenght.

If anything Hulk should hid in shame he didnt Ko guys like cap, Blavk Knight, Tigra, hawkeye.

Dam olympian.

What?

Youre a ruthless debator. I like it!

Oh thanks

hulk has nearly killed herc. herc is again not in hulks league strength wise. that comic had hulk whooping all the avengers put against him relatively easily. thor cannot increase his healing / strength limitlessly and hulk can so whats he gonna do, i know teleport him somewhere. your relentless buffoonery is truly striking. herc is a less powerful version of thor, someone who has admitted his inability to match hulks physical power

"hulk has nearly killed herc."

Yes. On Herc/Hulk unleashed when Hercules was - weaker-. Depowered. Lower strenght and all that jazzs. Herc wasent and wont win against guys on that level like the Hulk was if his weak. Same for any other Top hero.

And Hulk still didnt Ko him out in that one.

"that comic had hulk whooping all the avengers put against him relatively easily"

He wooped two of them for good. How about the rest? And how easy it is when you still have the main 3 who can punch him up until the end. And most of all how -you- consider it a wooping when Cap and guys at that level that wer- figthing him- werent broken or ko.

And a interesting wooping it was with like i already said Herc on the game all the time.

"herc is a less powerful version of thor, someone who has admitted his inability to match hulks physical power"

Regular Herc ( immortal/classic ) was never beaten by Thor in a physical match. In fact he has two wins against Thor. One against the real one. I was the same kind of Herc ko a weaker Hulk and Hulk beating a weaker Herc. That particular fight had Odin removed half of Thors strenght and he lost.

The second was against Mcsterson Thor that was possesed by Ares. Herc took more than one Hammer shot in the back of his head and still got up and overpowered that Thor. All the other fighst between these two are stalemates. Like against the Hulk.

And btw. About Thor admiting Hulk was better. It doesnt matter when regular Hulk as - yet- to beat him senseless. Or Ko him. The only fights these 3 have won against each other wer when each was weaker.

Now refute that.

Dammit, I said it perfectly!

Hulk is Andre the Giant.
Thor is Mike Tyson with a shotgun.

Andre is a lot stronger and bigger, but he's gonna get his head taken off.

Close thread.

Agreed. Except with the "lot stronger" bit

Originally posted by DEVILHULK
the byrne's animal, the mindlesshulk, owned two avengers teams plus Doc Samson......Hercules was not an exception

Hulk alone owned 14 heroes in that situation.

in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)

The MindlessHulk,alone, dominated the fight against 13/14 heroes.You know that if Hercules had fought that hulk alone, he would have been killed in few minutes.The Demolition team who the hulk in the past beat badly in the defenders, owned and almost killed Herc.

The same opponent and two different results:

Hercules vs Demolition team = Herc dead (almost)
Hulk vs Demolition team = team trashed


the hulk used Herc and Namor like they were his personal toys

"The MindlessHulk,alone, dominated the fight against 13/14 heroes"

He held his own against those avengers. When you are not beating up anyone except for two in the very beggining of the fight, your not owing or controlling the situation.

"You know that if Hercules had fought that hulk alone, he would have been killed in few minutes."

Hercules -did- fought that Hulk alone. before the 6 hour fight Hulk had with Samson. One on one. Was he beaten? No. Did he had more shots than the Hulk? Yes. Was Hulk fresh from the fights we mentioned? Yes. Did he dominated his fight with Herc? Again no.

"The Demolition team who the hulk in the past beat badly in the defenders, owned and almost killed Herc."

Ah yes. The avengers siege one. The one where the wrecking crew - did not - beat him. You see if you open the comic and check the page before Herc got Ko, youll see the "demolition team " on the ground swatd aside after trying to dogpile on Hercules and him standing with no injuries saying theyr all dead.

Goliath was the one who Ko Herc. After attacking from behind my good sir.

Of course you also know in another fight after that happened Herc beat every single guy of that team and destroyed theyr magical weapons with his bare hands...aye?

with one only Thnuderclap the hulk can take hercules down and an entire group of avengers

And if you can the next panels theyr all getting up and ok

Because you know, none got knocked out.

here Hulk uses Herc and Namor like his personal toys.......

Hercules champion of fly (1)

And while Namor was done for it, Herc still continue the figth and punch him back.

Hercules champion of fly (2)

And we can all see he wasent down because he was the one who - punched and ko. the Hulk, so he had to be there. Just an Oof doesnt cut it. He made Hulk go "uhhhhhhg" when he fough against him alone

Scan the whole fight friend. Id like to see Herc punching and Ko Hulk and go ready for the kill.

IncredibleHulk316-12

"Hercules champion of fly"

Yeah and people say Hercules cant fly. Your right in that one. Now he has the edge over Supes too.

But wait:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/IncredibleHulk316-12.jpg

Here Hulk flies as well! Maybe the two should join and form a boysband. The "flying Bricks".

Originally posted by olympian
Scan the whole fight friend. Id like to see Herc punching and Ko Hulk and go ready for the kill.

ready for the kill ? don't make me laught.......please

two avengers teams plus Doc Samson could not take him down neither when they tried to kill him, only thing that beat that hulk was the separation to Banner........that weakened him.That hulk did not get stronger with the anger.

so to summarize :

that hulk without the increasing strenght factor(the dynamic strenght) stalamated and almost beat :

1) Hercules
2) IronMan
3) Wonder Man
4) She Hulk
5) Doc Samson
6) Capitan America
7) Photon Cap Marvel
8) The Knight
9) Mokingbird
10) Wasp
11) Tigra
12) Hawkeye

and you still try with Hercules who was beaten by the demolition team ?

"two avengers teams plus Doc Samson could not take him down neither when they tried to kill him, only thing that beat that hulk was the separation to Banner........that weakened him.That hulk did not get stronger with the anger."

two avengers team where 90% wer not top tier. You know what non top tier level is? Its the level of guys that Hulk coulnt knock out. Lets list them:

Captain America. Tigra. Mockingbird. Black Knight. Hawkeye.

Then you had guys and gals close to the top. Like She Hulk at that time. Like Iron Man whose armor didnt made him at the top. Like Photon.

The -only- top tier heroes that wer there wer: Hercules. Wonder Man and namor. You take Namor out due to heat and you got two left. Two that mind you The Byrne animal didnt knockd out in anywhere in the fight.

Then you have Doc Samson who to my surprise slugged it out with the Hulk for six straight hours. 6. He cant even take out Doc Samson quick and you espect him to take Hercules? No.

Lastly that scan shows when Herc fought the Hulk- alone- The Hulk didnt beat him. We see on panel Herc hitting him twice against one charge from the Hulk. The rest was punches off panel since the attention is set back to the other avengers watching the fight.

"and you still try with Hercules who was beaten by the demolition team ?"

they werent the ones who Ko him. Before that happened in the next page of the comic the wrecking crew had all his members -down- after hercules swated them away, uninjured and treath to kill them. It was Goliath who shows up next from behind that does the deed.

Do you even know who Goliath is?

Actually im wrong. It was the wrecking crew and mister Hyde who went down when Goliath saved them.

olympian u r talking nonsense, hulk is way above herc and also thor on a physical level, thor is also way above herc. for yur info they took the idea of hulkescalating strength with madness from the mythological hercules who when in battle was often said to increase in strength due to his rage. ironic though that is. hulk anyway is his physical superior aswell as thors and well anybody really if he is mad enough, thats what he was created to be

Originally posted by Tough Guy
olympian u r talking nonsense, hulk is way above herc and also thor on a physical level, thor is also way above herc. for yur info they took the idea of hulkescalating strength with madness from the mythological hercules who when in battle was often said to increase in strength due to his rage. ironic though that is. hulk anyway is his physical superior aswell as thors and well anybody really if he is mad enough, thats what he was created to be

in annual 2001 Thor admitted that hulk is stronger than him and than anyone else......


hulk's dynamic strenght allows him to be the strongest one there is, if really enraged......

if Onslaught could not beat him in the slugfest, i think no one could.....
The hulk koied himself destroing Onslaught's armour that was also his pysical body and making the explosion.

"olympian u r talking nonsense, hulk is way above herc and also thor on a physical level"

How can i be talking nonsense, when Hulk never beat classic Hercules in a fight?

"for yur info they took the idea of hulkescalating strength with madness from the mythological hercules who when in battle was often said to increase in strength due to his rage"

Yeah im well aware. Thats why i have great respect for Hercules. He wrote the book of going berserk before Hulk or Thor. But thanks to remind all the other poeple.

"hulk anyway is his physical superior aswell as thors and well anybody really if he is mad enough, thats what he was created to be"

Hulk - can - become stronger than both. I said this before. The other thing im saying is that so far in battling both he didnt. You should know if you saw all his fights. He only won against a Hercules that was mortal. And depowered. Thats so much for superiority right there

"in annual 2001 Thor admitted that hulk is stronger than him and than anyone else......"

Thor admited that Hulk -can- earch a level of srenght above him. Its true. But he wasnt Ko was he?

"hulk's dynamic strenght allows him to be the strongest one there is, if really enraged......"

Correction. It allows him to be above the high class 100.


"if Onslaught could not beat him in the slugfest, i think no one could.....
The hulk koied himself destroing Onslaught's armour that was also his pysical body and making the explosi"

Knocked himself? Does that means Hulk punched itself for everyone to think he didnt got Ko by Onslaught?

Originally posted by olympian
"in annual 2001 Thor admitted that hulk is stronger than him and than anyone else......"

Thor admited that Hulk -can- earch a level of srenght above him. Its true. But he wasnt Ko was he?

"hulk's dynamic strenght allows him to be the strongest one there is, if really enraged......"

Correction. It allows him to be above the high class 100.


"if Onslaught could not beat him in the slugfest, i think no one could.....
The hulk koied himself destroing Onslaught's armour that was also his pysical body and making the explosi"

Knocked himself? Does that means Hulk punched itself for everyone to think he didnt got Ko by Onslaught?

did you see Onslaught koied the hulk ? i saw Hulk destroyed Onslaught , and after i saw him koied by the explosion, maybe we read 2 different comics

I didnt. I saw Onslaught still up looking from above a knocked out Hulk.

Unless you dont consider Hulk being knocked out but rather taking a nap.

Originally posted by olympian
I didnt. I saw Onslaught still up looking from above a knocked out Hulk.

Unless you dont consider Hulk being knocked out but rather taking a nap.


hulk won the slugfest, i did not say he won the entire fight like heroes thought in the first moment

hulk broke the ''unbreakable'' armour of onslaugh he didnt beat him, however no one else could so thats a bonus for hulkypoos. hulk is able to become physicaly stronger than anyone, thats his character, upper 100s my arse. he doesnt always ko, or overcome the other 100 tonne guys as that would make for a crap story, i mean , huk im pissed now, thor gets knocked out end of fight. then issue 123 ( doesnt exist b4 dummies try to find) herc pisses hulk off to much, hulk kos him the end. hulk wouldnt be able to brawl ever as everyone would now hed just get ludicrously strong and spank their heo. my argument is simply he could get that strong within his characters power limits, i dont believe for a second he d ever be written on top of his game much oe else his stories would be too predictable

"hulk won the slugfest, i did not say he won the entire fight like heroes thought in the first moment"

What Hulk did was breaking the armour. Yes he was damn good at it. he didnt won any slugfest tho since Onslaugth was stilll up while Hulk was knocked out.

"hulk broke the ''unbreakable'' armour of onslaugh he didnt beat him, however no one else could"

Thor broke the other armour too. The only difference is the Onslaught Hulk fough was more powerful.

"dont believe for a second he d ever be written on top of his game much oe else his stories would be too predictable"

Wich is the reason he isent written often at his mythologic levels.

The last post was refering to Hercules.

mythological herc isnt the same though. one was written by the ancient greeks if u hadnt noticed. hulk is marvels interpretation of mytological herc anyway. only with him his strength is mysteriously limitless and he has limitless healing and has to be mad to become hulk. who is more powerful than herc

and thor ( physically)

wat bout avenger v2 where hulk beated thor issue 5

and

iron man v2 industrial revolution part 2 issue number 6
thor says "verily, even the son of odin is impressed" with hulks strength

Hulk kick the shit out of thor many of times, if thor is stupid enough not to use every power to the max he gets a ass whoppin, but even then Hulk still wins to much endurance stamina strength...

"mythological herc isnt the same though. one was written by the ancient greeks if u hadnt noticed. hulk is marvels interpretation of mytological herc anyway. only with him his strength is mysteriously limitless and he has limitless healing and has to be mad to become hulk. who is more powerful than herc"

Isent the same - what- .

Dont tell me your another who comes around and say that Herc inside Marvel context isent the mithological one.

Isent Thor inside the marvel universe the God of Thunder as well?

Of course there is the original by the Greeks (btw nice info, who would of know it was the Greeks, after all).

But you are also aware there is the original Thor of the norse myth, the original Superman of the golden age and even Hulk of Lee and kirby.

Todays versions arent exactly as the originals eh.

Thor just has to play this battle the same way as Superman does.

No-one can beat Hulk in a straight up slug-fest.

So you capitalise on your other strengths.

With Thor, these would be - speed, flight, long range attacks.

With his warrior-skill and years of experience, he should be able to utilise these strengths to the max and decimate Hulk.

"No-one can beat Hulk in a straight up slug-fest"

No one actually can

Especially these days.

Thor wins 10/10

Godblast=Dead Hulk.

The only way Thor loses is if he stupidly throws his hammer away and fights h2h. But, this is bloodlust, so it won't happen.

Originally posted by long pig
Thor wins 10/10

Godblast=Dead Hulk.

The only way Thor loses is if he stupidly throws his hammer away and fights h2h. But, this is bloodlust, so it won't happen.
Well then Thor would win most of his battles

Godblast = Total Destruction


i mean let's see Superman vs Thor

Godblast end of Superman , Superman punch , thor answers back.

But Godblast there is no answer.

And I hardly see Thor using it in battle.

Beside that Thor got the best attack of all the heroes

Even if Thor puts down the hammer - like in the past - it's no more than a stalemate. Hulk knocks Thor down, Thor continues to get up and fight. Hulk doesn't reach the infinite rage people keep talking about; he gets confused as to why he can't put Thor away. With the hammer, Thor knocks him around like a beachball. Godblast is the ultimate weapon to pull out.
I like to see Hulk lift The Midgard Serpent.
Never mind, he can't.

Originally posted by roughrider
Even if Thor puts down the hammer - like in the past - it's no more than a stalemate. Hulk knocks Thor down, Thor continues to get up and fight. Hulk doesn't reach the infinite rage people keep talking about; he gets confused as to why he can't put Thor away. With the hammer, Thor knocks him around like a beachball. Godblast is the ultimate weapon to pull out.
I like to see Hulk lift The Midgard Serpent.
Never mind, he can't.
He can Hulk can lift anything, that's what the Hulk is.

The strongest dude around

And no Thor won't be hanging with Hulk without his hammer

It always start as a tie, but slowly Hulk dominates

But clearly in all the battle thor is always winning the battle ( and holding back)

"Even if Thor puts down the hammer - like in the past - it's no more than a stalemate. Hulk knocks Thor down, Thor continues to get up and fight. Hulk doesn't reach the infinite rage people keep talking about; he gets confused as to why he can't put Thor away. With the hammer, Thor knocks him around like a beachball."

Ditto

well marvel wasnt written by ancient greeks my dimwitted student. hulk is an evolved herc anyway, with limitless strength and durability a potential. thor is no match physically with a hulk on top of his game. as for god blasts. hulk can heal from nothing so it may just leave him on need of healing

<<And no Thor won't be hanging with Hulk without his hammer>>

yep. but like you said kg, it's the supes v hulk syndrome -- thor has simply too much overall power for hulk. he's ko'd him pretty easily in the recent past with a few lightning bolts. scans are posted somewhere . . .

if thor fights smart he will win 10/10, if only by the silly bfr rule. anyone relying on strength alone can usually at best HOPE for a stalemate against hulk -- but characters with greater versatility will usually beat him.

Same as Hulk vs. Superman. Thor is too versatile, and has way too much raw magical power for Hulk to beat him. Thor almost always holds back in fights against Hulk. If he ever really let loose against Hulk, it wouldn't be pretty. With his hammer, PIS/CIS off, Thor wins 10/10. In terms of physical strength, Hulk's nigh unbeatable. Anyone with power and versatility can usually overcome him.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Same as Hulk vs. Superman. Thor is too versatile, and has way too much raw magical power for Hulk to beat him. Thor almost always holds back in fights against Hulk. If he ever really let loose against Hulk, it wouldn't be pretty. With his hammer, PIS/CIS off, Thor wins 10/10. In terms of physical strength, Hulk's nigh unbeatable. Anyone with power and versatility can usually overcome him.


i.e. kitty pryde

Originally posted by TheKahn
i.e. kitty pryde

I don't know about that...

It was in an old post, and the arguement was that since the Hulk is so one dimensional (physical strength) that people that are immune to that power could take him. It was argued that she could go intangible and simply remove his brain or something like that.

Originally posted by TheKahn
It was in an old post, and the arguement was that since the Hulk is so one dimensional (physical strength) that people that are immune to that power could take him. It was argued that she could go intangible and simply remove his brain or something like that.

Vision tried that. Didn't work very well.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Vision tried that. Didn't work very well.

Why ?????

Thor is going to win this, and the major advantage thor has over hulk is his ability to fly

Originally posted by roughrider
Even if Thor puts down the hammer - like in the past - it's no more than a stalemate. Hulk knocks Thor down, Thor continues to get up and fight. Hulk doesn't reach the infinite rage people keep talking about; he gets confused as to why he can't put Thor away. With the hammer, Thor knocks him around like a beachball. Godblast is the ultimate weapon to pull out.
I like to see Hulk lift The Midgard Serpent.
Never mind, he can't.

I'd like to see Thor resist the matter-antimatter atttraction. Oh that's right. He can't. He doesn't have the near infinite strength required to perform such a task.

Hulk doesn't need "infinite rage" to exercise near infinite strength. All he needs to do is get angry. There is no theoretical equation that measures how much stronger Hulk becomes from x amount of anger over x amount of time. That's not how it works.

The Hulk is a figment of Bruce Banner's childhood imagination come to life via gamma radiation. Somehow, gamma radiation brings the subconscious desires of the mind to reality. Samuel Sterns wanted to be smart; he became the Leader. Jen Walters wanted to be beautiful and strong; she became She-Hulk. Leonard Samson wanted to be physically impressive; Doc Samson. Heck, Silver Surfer wanted to be free of Galactus's barrier, and after absorbing Hulk's energy, he broke through it.

Hulk's strength isn't restricted by the laws of the physical universe. As a child, Bruce's feelings of powerlessness before his father caused him to dream up an imaginary friend (whom he modeled after one of his toys,) that would always be strong enough to protect him and his mother. "The madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets." As an imaginary creature, with his strength he can do whatever a child might imagine him being capable of, making his strength fundamentally limitless. Doing things that defy the laws of physics are not impossible for him. In truth, the Hulk may not be composed of atoms.

Anyway, lifting the Midgard Serpent pales in comparison to any of Hulk's greater feats. People know so little about Hulk, it's insulting.

Thor is a fighter, and he can hold his own with Hulk for a while without Mjolnir, but he won't be able to stalemate Hulk forever. Eventually he's going down.

Originally posted by yahman
Why ?????

He got stuck inside of him. Go figure.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'd like to see Thor resist the matter-antimatter atttraction. Oh that's right. He can't. He doesn't have the near infinite strength required to perform such a task.

Hulk doesn't need "infinite rage" to exercise near infinite strength. All he needs to do is get angry. There is no theoretical equation that measures how much stronger Hulk becomes from x amount of anger over x amount of time. That's not how it works.

The Hulk is a figment of Bruce Banner's childhood imagination come to life via gamma radiation. Somehow, gamma radiation brings the subconscious desires of the mind to reality. Samuel Sterns wanted to be smart; he became the leader. Jen Walters wanted to be beautiful and strong; she became She-Hulk. Leonard Samson wanted to be physically impressive; Doc Samson. Heck, Silver Surfer wanted to be free of Galactus's barrier, and after absorbing Hulk's energy, he broke through it.

Hulk's strength isn't restricted by the laws of the physical universe. As a child, Bruce's feelings of powerlessness before his father caused him to dream up an imaginary friend (whom he modeled after one of his toys,) that would always be strong enough to protect him and his mother. "The madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets." As an imaginary creature, with his strength he can do whatever a child might imagine him being capable of, making his strength is fundamentally limitless. Doing things that defy the laws of physics are not impossible for him. In truth, the Hulk may not be composed of atoms.

Anyway, lifting the Midgard Serpent pales in comparison to any of Hulk's greater feats. People know so little about Hulk, it's insulting.

Thor is a fighter, and he can hold his own with Hulk for a while without Mjolnir, but he won't be able to stalemate Hulk forever. Eventually he's going down.

The best explanation I've heard from you yet.

Well done.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'd like to see Thor resist the matter-antimatter atttraction. Oh that's right. He can't. He doesn't have the near infinite strength required to perform such a task.

Hulk doesn't need "infinite rage" to exercise near infinite strength. All he needs to do is get angry. There is no theoretical equation that measures how much stronger Hulk becomes from x amount of anger over x amount of time. That's not how it works.

The Hulk is a figment of Bruce Banner's childhood imagination come to life via gamma radiation. Somehow, gamma radiation brings the subconscious desires of the mind to reality. Samuel Sterns wanted to be smart; he became the leader. Jen Walters wanted to be beautiful and strong; she became She-Hulk. Leonard Samson wanted to be physically impressive; Doc Samson. Heck, Silver Surfer wanted to be free of Galactus's barrier, and after absorbing Hulk's energy, he broke through it.

Hulk's strength isn't restricted by the laws of the physical universe. As a child, Bruce's feelings of powerlessness before his father caused him to dream up an imaginary friend (whom he modeled after one of his toys,) that would always be strong enough to protect him and his mother. "The madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets." As an imaginary creature, with his strength he can do whatever a child might imagine him being capable of, making his strength is fundamentally limitless. Doing things that defy the laws of physics are not impossible for him. In truth, the Hulk may not be composed of atoms.

Anyway, lifting the Midgard Serpent pales in comparison to any of Hulk's greater feats. People know so little about Hulk, it's insulting.

Thor is a fighter, and he can hold his own with Hulk for a while without Mjolnir, but he won't be able to stalemate Hulk forever. Eventually he's going down.

props on that post

Originally posted by superman302
props on that post

Thanks.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
The best explanation I've heard from you yet.

Well done.

Thanks Zephro.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
He got stuck inside of him. Go figure.

Ehhhhhhhhhhh ??????

Originally posted by yahman
Ehhhhhhhhhhh ??????

Wish I had a scan... He tried to increase his density inside of Hulk, and nothing happened.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Wish I had a scan... He tried to increase his density inside of Hulk, and nothing happened.

Good comic ?

Originally posted by roughrider
Even if Thor puts down the hammer - like in the past - it's no more than a stalemate. Hulk knocks Thor down, Thor continues to get up and fight. Hulk doesn't reach the infinite rage people keep talking about; he gets confused as to why he can't put Thor away. With the hammer, Thor knocks him around like a beachball. Godblast is the ultimate weapon to pull out.
I like to see Hulk lift The Midgard Serpent.
Never mind, he can't.
Nope if Thor puts his hammer down

Savage will destroys him, eventually.

Tho Thor did tie Prof Hulk without his hammer.

Originally posted by yahman
Good comic ? Maybe...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Maybe...

Indeed

Originally posted by yahman
Indeed



It was during the time that Doc Samson seperated Banner from Hulk, and Mindless Hulk was dying. Don't remember the issue... I think he was fighting the Avengers.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube


It was during the time that Doc Samson seperated Banner from Hulk, and Mindless Hulk was dying. Don't remember the issue... I think he was fighting the Avengers.

Smells like a plot hole to me

Originally posted by yahman
Smells like a plot hole to me

You can smell those?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You can smell those?

Indeed .... Its a potenet as bull shit .

Originally posted by yahman
Indeed .... Its a potenet as bull shit .

Save this one for another thread.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Save this one for another thread.

I intend to.

<<Heck, Silver Surfer wanted to be free of Galactus's barrier, and after absorbing Hulk's energy, he broke through it.>>

i forgot about that one! damn good post, cc. that's what people always forget -- the hulk's strength is not 'physical' and is not regulated by 'physics'. that's why strength battles will always go to the hulk -- eventually.

cosmic cube i must give you another round of applause for our post. well said

Hulk's strength is potentially limitless...potentially. His greatest feat is still that mountain from Secret Wars. Thor lifts the Migard Serpent, which weighs as much as the Earth, and Surtur's sword Twilight, which has the mass of a White Dwarf Star. When is Hulk going to do something that truly shows this limitless people keep saying?
This goes on and on - would it settle it to say Hulk MAY be stronger, but Thor IS more powerful overall? No. Anyway this isn't arm wrestling, even though Thor has stalemated Hulk in a test of strength that lasted an hour, in Defenders #10. Thor, like Superman, has too much versatility in his attack for the Hulk to truly overcome. Thor uses everything he has, he wins.