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I started my investigation into the gullibility of certain KMC members with thie thread below on the moon landing, It becomes more obvious as the thread continues my postion is false, I respect the members of the forum who applied logic to the situation like PVS and unveiled the thread for the fraud it was.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-343580

I found this and it sums up my feelings on Conspiracy theorists and theories beautifully. Opinions anyone. How thick are conspiracy theorists? How stupid are the ideas they propagate?

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Conspiracy TheoriesMy thoughts on why we should be suspicious of Conspiracy Theories:

CONSPIRACY THEORIES AS GOSSIP--------------------------

Conspiratorial views of history and current events are very seductive. In a very real way, conspiracy theories carry the same temptation and the same power as gossip does. Like gossip, sharing conspiracy theories carries a certain, peculiar pleasure. As human beings we tend to find a visceral pleasure in sharing the dirty-little secrets of others: even when those dirty-little secrets are more perceived than real.

True or fabricated, gossip tends to agree with the observable facts, and is marked by a good degree of logical consistency. Often gossip carries a great deal of explanatory power and provides a framework in which an individual's actions may be interpreted. Conspiracy theories are marked by these same attributes.

The problem with both gossip and conspiracy theories is that our collection of facts may be incomplete and our perception of them may be distorted. We are, after all, only human and to some degree we see what we want to see. And at a very primitive, emotional level we would rather see those dirty-little secrets; we would rather see conspiracies.

Because they are so seductive in this way, I believe that when confronted with a conspiracy theory it is appropriate to maintain a good deal of skepticism and self doubt.



FOOLING YOURSELF--------------------

In a commencement speech he have in 1974 to the California Institute of Technology, the great physicist, the late Dr. Richard Feynman told the students to cultivate:


...a kind of scientific integrity, a principle of scientific thought that corresponds to a kind of utter honesty--a kind of leaning over backwards. For example, if you're doing an experiment, you should report everything that you think might make it invalid--not only what
you think is right about it: other causes that could possibly explain the results; and things you thought of that you've eliminated by some other experiment, and how they worked--to make sure the other fellow can tell that they have been eliminated. . . . In summary, the idea is to try to give all the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself--and you are the easiest person to fool. So you have to be very careful about that. After you've not fooled yourself, it's easy not to fool other scientists. You just have to be honest in a conventional way after that.

I would like to add something that's not essential to the science, but something I kind of believe, which is that you should not fool the laymen when you're talking as a scientist. . . .I'm talking about a specific, extra type of integrity that is not
lying, but bending over backwards to show how you're maybe wrong, that you ought to have when acting as a scientist. And this is our responsibility as scientists, certainly to other scientists, and I think to laymen.

http://jmaxwilson.lexics.net/2004_06_27_.html

You just have to mention Deano in here and it will get closed......upsi daisy

whats wrong with searchin the truth?....

Ignores Bardock, ho, hum back to thread

Hello Deano, nothing is wrong searching for the truth

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I respect the members of the forum who applied logic to the situation like PVS and unveiled the thread for the fraud it was.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-343580

you are quite welcome....only i never posted in that thread. perhaps you were thinking of another thread or have me confused with another member?

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Hello Deano, nothing is wrong searching for the truth

there u go then
some conspiracys are bullshit..some i think are not
e.g 9/11

Originally posted by PVS
you are quite welcome....only i never posted in that thread. perhaps you were thinking of another thread or have me confused with another member?
I want to be credited for something I didn't do too

i apologise I meant Trickster sorry.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
i apologise I meant Trickster sorry.

apology accepted..

But I do rspect the way you usually expose conspiracy theorists as fools PVS, Kharma Dog is also excellent for this

Originally posted by Deano
whats wrong with searchin the truth?....

must we have this conversation again?
to 'search for the truth' is to do just that: search

that means hearing/reading certain theories and then going on to research for yourself, finding info outside the source, since the source's info can be highly tainted with bias (and usually is).

searching for the truth requires far more than clicking this link:
http://www.rense.com.

Deano my friend you read David Icke and that worries me greatly

Originally posted by PVS
must we have this conversation again?
to 'search for the truth' is to do just that: search

that means hearing/reading certain theories and then going on to research for yourself, finding info outside the source, since the source's info can be highly tainted with bias (and usually is).

searching for the truth requires far more than clicking this link:
http://www.rense.com.

i can survive without rense.com
ive posted about 3 threads relating rense.com

stuff about N.W.O
one world goverment
microchipping

stuff i believe is possible

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Deano my friend you read David Icke and that worries me greatly

whats wrong with that?
you read the daily tabloids..and that worrys me greatly

Originally posted by PVS
must we have this conversation again?
to 'search for the truth' is to do just that: search

that means hearing/reading certain theories and then going on to research for yourself, finding info outside the source, since the source's info can be highly tainted with bias (and usually is).

searching for the truth requires far more than clicking this link:
http://www.rense.com.
I did:

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Hmm I bet Aliens did that together with the Illuminati, to destroy the only free voice out there.....no that conspiracy theory has a major flaw....no Bush in it.

Do you believe in David Ickes Lizard men Deano?Yes or No..........

Originally posted by Deano
stuff i believe is possible

so long as you hold true to the words "believe" and "possible"
then ok. but often you seem to substitute those words with
"know" and "definite". that is when you come off as a bit looney.

I read the independant it is tabloid sized now Originally posted by Deano
whats wrong with that?
you read the daily tabloids..and that worrys me greatly

Lizard Men Deano, as the royal family? Possible or not?

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Do you believe in David Ickes Lizard men Deano?Yes or No..........

no i cant get my head around that..but he obviously has some reason for mentioning them...ive read is book and he has pointed out a lot of things regarding the so called lizards...for me its too unbelievable

but other stuff he says i can believe..e.g illuminati, one world goveremnt, microchipping etc

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Lizard Men Deano, as the royal family? Possible or not?

ask icke..he will have the answers..or better yet..read his book and judge for yourself..its pretty interesting in most parts...i can send u the book through msn..if u dare read it

OK no Lizard men, thats a little better, now relax a bit. Are the illuminati made up of Bush and Clinton?

Originally posted by Deano
ask icke..he will have the answers..or better yet..read his book and judge for yourself..its pretty interesting in most parts...i can send u the book through msn..if u dare read it

got shown it as a laugh already Its crap

Originally posted by PVS
so long as you hold true to the words "believe" and "possible"
then ok. but often you seem to substitute those words with
"know" and "definite". that is when you come off as a bit looney.

microcipping is a definete possiblilty
its been on the news ...some people have already been planted with it
in 10 years time..who knows how many will have the chip
they are gonan make it look pretty so that evryone accepts it and the goveremnt will make out that u cant survive without it..thats what ive read

Originally posted by whirlysplat
got shown it as a laugh already Its crap

how much u read?
1 page?
read the stuff he talks about on religeon
worth reading

Originally posted by Deano
microcipping is a definete possiblilty
its been on the news ...some people have already been planted with it
in 10 years time..who knows how many will have the chip
they are gonan make it look pretty so that evryone accepts it and the goveremnt will make out that u cant survive without it..thats what ive read

I see (scared now, I will be leaving) scuttles away quickly

Originally posted by whirlysplat
OK no Lizard men, thats a little better, now relax a bit. Are the illuminati made up of Bush and Clinton?

illuminati did actually exist..but supposedly they broke up around a 100 years ago..supposedly
there logo is on the back of the dollar bill

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/illuminati.jpg

the pyramid..the logo..the all seeing eye

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I see (scared now, I will be leaving) scuttles away quickly

want the link to the video?
huh?

Originally posted by Deano
microcipping is a definete possiblilty
its been on the news ...some people have already been planted with it
in 10 years time..who knows how many will have the chip
they are gonan make it look pretty so that evryone accepts it and the goveremnt will make out that u cant survive without it..thats what ive read

NO WAY WILL I EVER ACCEPT HAVING A CHIP LIKE THAT!!

Unless of course it comes in a pretty blue and I absolutely can't live without it.

http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads/The%20Microchip.wmv

here u go whirly..educate yourself

'educate'

Originally posted by Deano
illuminati did actually exist..but supposedly they broke up around a 100 years ago..supposedly
there logo is on the back of the dollar bill

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/illuminati/illuminati.jpg

the pyramid..the logo..the all seeing eye


and heres a pic of the easter bunny, he runs the illuminati

I missed that Originally posted by PVS
'educate'

Originally posted by KharmaDog
NO WAY WILL I EVER ACCEPT HAVING A CHIP LIKE THAT!!

Unless of course it comes in a pretty blue and I absolutely can't live without it.

thing is..they say it will act as some sort of credit card and id..so wheneva u purchase an item,,u scan ur hand through something
a cashless society my friend..thats what i mean when i say people cudnt live without it...people will follow one in front of the other
Implanted human beings can be followed anywhere.
so its not a conspiracy as such


this is the conspiracy
Their brain functions can then be remotely monitored by supercomputers and even altered through the changing of frequencies

MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL WITH "NON-LETHAL" WEAPONS IS THE BIGGEST CRIME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND AGAINST THE POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH. IT MUST BE STOPPED BY ALL PEOPLES OF THIS GLOBE

Originally posted by whirlysplat
and heres a pic of the easter bunny

you cant laugh cos u dont know whats goin on..u are just doing and saying what u think is right...
do i laugh at you

Originally posted by PVS
'educate'

that's precious

Originally posted by PVS
'educate'

click the link...enjoy it
its just a conspiracy after all

Originally posted by Deano
MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL WITH "NON-LETHAL" WEAPONS IS THE BIGGEST CRIME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND AGAINST THE POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH. IT MUST BE STOPPED BY ALL PEOPLES OF THIS GLOBE

yeah, its about there that you lose all credit and become a ranting doomsayer.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
that's precious

it is..

Originally posted by PVS
yeah, its about there that you lose all credit and become a ranting doomsayer.

i didnt say it though did i..im quoting
and maybe it will be the biggest crime against humanity...

we all have our beliefs
all im sayin is be aware..and not everythin is as it seems
Blinding ignorance does mislead us

Originally posted by Deano
thing is..they say it will act as some sort of credit card and id..so wheneva u purchase an item,,u scan ur hand through something
a cashless society my friend..thats what i mean when i say people cudnt live without it...people will follow one in front of the other
Implanted human beings can be followed anywhere.
so its not a conspiracy as such


this is the conspiracy
Their brain functions can then be remotely monitored by supercomputers and even altered through the changing of frequencies

MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL WITH "NON-LETHAL" WEAPONS IS THE BIGGEST CRIME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND AGAINST THE POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH. IT MUST BE STOPPED BY ALL PEOPLES OF THIS GLOBE

Exterminate

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Exterminate

so u havent clicked the link yet
sigh
dont be scared

We are Borg resistance is futile

Originally posted by whirlysplat
We are Borg resistance is futile

What a splendid head, yet no brain.

Originally posted by Deano
What a splendid head, yet no brain.

Gotta take control...........chip taking over. head changing, chip taking over brain................ Resistance is futile, You will be assimilated.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Gotta take control...........chip taking over. Resistance is futile, You will be assimilated

like it or hate it..u will be implanted

read the biggest secret by david icke. He backs all that he says with credible sources.

The global conspiracy and everything in it like the Illuminati, the alien reptilians and all the other stuff is very very real and if you can prevent your conditioning and brainwashing from telling you to instantly dismiss it as fantasy and actually go and study it and see the evidence and proof of these hings then you will be one very usefull and important person that has the potential to wake others up and subsequently prevent the New World Order from coming into full power.

If we dont stop the NWO, the masses will not resist... they never do... they will "roll with the times" like they always have done.

By waking upto these truths and then spreading it to others WILL prevent the New World Order.

Originally posted by Deano
like it or hate it..u will be implanted

Lol you have been watching to much scum. I will struggle, even in the borstal.

Twaddle and Tosh

Do you believe in Lizard men?.......Originally posted by Novusordo
read the biggest secret by david icke. He backs all that he says with credible sources.

The global conspiracy and everything in it like the Illuminati, the alien reptilians and all the other stuff is very very real and if you can prevent your conditioning and brainwashing from telling you to instantly dismiss it as fantasy and actually go and study it and see the evidence and proof of these hings then you will be one very usefull and important person that has the potential to wake others up and subsequently prevent the New World Order from coming into full power.

If we dont stop the NWO, the masses will not resist... they never do... they will "roll with the times" like they always have done.

By waking upto these truths and then spreading it to others WILL prevent the New World Order.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Lol you have been watching to much scum. I will struggle, even in the borstal.

Twaddle and Tosh

why dont u click the link i gave u
then u can say its bullshit

Clicked it. Know its Bullshit

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Clicked it. Know its Bullshit

watch the video
i bet you any money u wont be sayin it is bullshit

whirly splat, yes I do believe the 'lizard men' exist because the evidence out there is too great not to.

They are many different races and sub-races of what you call 'lizard-men' but the highest in the 'heirachy' are the Draconian race from the Draco star constelation, hence the name.

They are the Royal bloodlines of Europe such as the Sax Gotha Coburgs (Windsors), the SaintClairs (Sin Clairs) and all the other off-shoots of the Merovigian bloodline.

You are Joking!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by Novusordo
whirly splat, yes I do believe the 'lizard men' exist because the evidence out there is too great not to.

They are many different races and sub-races of what you call 'lizard-men' but the highest in the 'heirachy' are the Draconian race from the Draco star constelation, hence the name.

They are the Royal bloodlines of Europe such as the Sax Gotha Coburgs (Windsors), the SaintClairs (Sin Clairs) and all the other off-shoots of the Merovigian bloodline.

Almost all conspiracy theories are pure assumption that has no basis in fact and no valid evidence supporting them. They are a novelty that should be looked at as entertainment, nothing more. Though some people sadly take them for more then that

Well I wish I was joking because its kind of depressing to know that a very malevolent alien race controlling our world and subsequently our life.

Originally posted by BackFire
Almost all conspiracy theories are pure assumption that has no basis in fact and no valid evidence supporting them. They are a novelty that should be looked at as entertainment, nothing more. Though some people sadly take them for more then that

Yes you are right becuase you have studied each and every conspiracy theory and all its evidence and came to that conclusion diden't you

Sanity fast...... leaving thread.........Help!!!!!!!

The big ones, yes.

It doesn't take very long to look through the evidence of most of them to come to the reasonable conclusion that they're absolute bullshit.

Originally posted by BackFire
The big ones, yes.

It doesn't take very long to look through the evidence of most of them to come to the reasonable conclusion that they're absolute bullshit.
here, here, Backfire what do you think of his Lizard men idea

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Lol you have been watching to much scum. I will struggle, even in the borstal.

Twaddle and Tosh

the microchip

they will not make this compulsory. They want you to VOLUNTARILY give away your spiritual freedom. That way it has more power over you. But, to encourage you to accept it, they will probably make it attractive to accept, and impossible to operate in society without it.

Originally posted by BackFire
The big ones, yes.

It doesn't take very long to look through the evidence of most of them to come to the reasonable conclusion that they're absolute bullshit.

What "big ones" have you studied so comprehensively to of concluded they are bullshit?

Is this the lizard men Deano or someone else Originally posted by Deano
the microchip

they will not make this compulsory. They want you to VOLUNTARILY give away your spiritual freedom. That way it has more power over you. But, to encourage you to accept it, they will probably make it attractive to accept, and impossible to operate in society without it.

Well, considering there's absolutely no valid evidence for it, it's probably one of the most ridiculous theories in existance.

I can't believe some people actually believe it, guess some people will just believe what they want reguardless of the fact that reasoning and basic common sense points the opposite direction.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, considering there's absolutely no valid evidence for it, it's probably one of the most ridiculous theories in existance.

I can't believe some people actually believe it, guess some people will just believe what they want reguardless of the fact that reasoning and basic common sense points the opposite direction.

Absolutely

Originally posted by Novusordo
What "big ones" have you studied so comprehensively to of concluded they are bullshit?


Moonlanding, 9/11 being done by our own government, JFK, Area 51, etc.

You know, the main ones.

Originally posted by Deano
the microchip

they will not make this compulsory. They want you to VOLUNTARILY give away your spiritual freedom. That way it has more power over you. But, to encourage you to accept it, they will probably make it attractive to accept, and impossible to operate in society without it.

It will become compulsory but yeah, they will try hard to get us to WANT it.

A massive increase of reportings of child abductions will be happening soon and I have no doubt that the Illuminati will grad yet another Freemason, mind control him to do something like kill a school of kids like the Freemason Thomas Hamilton did in DunBlane.

Freemasons are expendable tools of the Illuminati hence the reason every serial killer, crime lord, pedohpile, ect, ect are Freemasons.

Yup being chipped etc, Lizard men etc are all twaddle backfire sadly some poor souls have very vivid imagination.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Is this the lizard men Deano or someone else

this is the microchip that people like you will willingly accept....

Originally posted by Novusordo
whirly splat, yes I do believe the 'lizard men' exist because the evidence out there is too great not to.

They are many different races and sub-races of what you call 'lizard-men' but the highest in the 'heirachy' are the Draconian race from the Draco star constelation, hence the name.

They are the Royal bloodlines of Europe such as the Sax Gotha Coburgs (Windsors), the SaintClairs (Sin Clairs) and all the other off-shoots of the Merovigian bloodline.

jawdrop

time for you to seek professional help before you hurt yourself and/or others

Originally posted by BackFire
Moonlanding, 9/11 being done by our own government, JFK, Area 51, etc.

You know, the main ones.

Ok are you seriously saying you dont think Area 51 exists?

Moonlanding was a complete fake and there was a excellent documentry of Sci Fi channel last week about it and my god the evidence or should I say, proof, was incredible.

9/11 was not done by your government, it was done by the force that controls your government.

Dude, thaose towers and were brought down by a controlled demolition using dynamite at the keys supporting struts and there are dozens of videos on the net of different filming angles.

9/11 is what they needed.

Also why is it so hard to beleive when it is now an historical fact that the United States Navy sank the "Maine' in the late 19th century and blamed it on the Spanish to justify war with them and what about Roosvelt encouraging the Japs to bomb the US nval fleet in PEarl Harbour so the US had the justification to enter WW2? Historical facts.

Wake up.

Originally posted by PVS
jawdrop

time for you to seek professional help before you hurt yourself and/or others

I know, its better than I ever hoped for this thread

Originally posted by whirlysplat
I know, its better than I ever hoped for this thread

those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who coudnt hear the music....

Originally posted by Deano
those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who coudnt hear the music....

its actually getting better

Originally posted by Deano
those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who coudnt hear the music....

Good point and another good point is that what you and I are trying to tell them is not somethings that can be told is an effetive way through a forum. These people need to read a good book about it to even stand a chance of understanding the global conspiracy nevermind begin to believe any of it.

We are like trying to explain how the world is round without explaining how gravity works

The best two books on the global conspiracy for beginners to read are "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke and "Rule By Secrecy" by Jim Marrs.

Please tell me more about the aliens they sound cool.


Originally posted by Novusordo
Good point and another good point is that what you and I are trying to tell them is not somethings that can be told is an effetive way through a forum. These people need to read a good book about it to even stand a chance of understanding the global conspiracy nevermind begin to believe any of it.

We are like trying to explain how the world is round without explaining how gravity works

The best two books on the global conspiracy for beginners to read are "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke and "Rule By Secrecy" by Jim Marrs.

Originally posted by Novusordo
Good point and another good point is that what you and I are trying to tell them is not somethings that can be told is an effetive way through a forum. These people need to read a good book about it to even stand a chance of understanding the global conspiracy nevermind begin to believe any of it.

We are like trying to explain how the world is round without explaining how gravity works

The best two books on the global conspiracy for beginners to read are "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke and "Rule By Secrecy" by Jim Marrs.

very good point

the biggest secret by david icke is a good read

Not in the way it's portrayed.

There is probably, almost definately a station called "Area 51", this much is obvious. What I'm disputing is the claims that this station has ET's and alien equipment, which I don't believe.



Only if you're ignorant to the contrary proof and evidence that debunks this conspiracy theory.



Which is who? This is like a conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory, how interesting



Nah, just planes. What do vidoes at different angles have to do with anything? They all show the same thing, a building falling down.



It's hard to believe because there is no valid evidence for it that can't be debunked, not because I think our government is all gumdrops and rainbows. Too make such a massive claim would take much evidence and proof, which isn't there.

Here is proof of the Lizard men

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Here is proof of the Lizard men

thats some guy in a goddamn costume

WHat you should all realise is that the people behind the global conspiracy are the ones that control the "education" (indoctrination) system, the newspapers, theTV news networks and the informattion flow and the movie industry... basicly, anything that informs and "educatates" masses of epople.

This gives them the ability to condition society and literally brainwash and indoctrinate and for-feed a version of reality and possiblity that severly restricts and limits the individual through fear. They also control societies "norms" which is a massive power tool.

What you think is bullshit is only becuase you have been conditioned to think that way. The trick is to break free from it and actualy read a book about it.

Is it Deano is it really Originally posted by Deano
thats some guy in a goddamn costume

Originally posted by Novusordo
WHat you should all realise is that the people behind the global conspiracy are the ones that control the "education" (indoctrination) system, the newspapers, theTV news networks and the informattion flow and the movie industry... basicly, anything that informs and "educatates" masses of epople.

This gives them the ability to condition society and literally brainwash and indoctrinate and for-feed a version of reality and possiblity that severly restricts and limits the individual through fear. They also control societies "norms" which is a massive power tool.

What you think is bullshit is only becuase you have been conditioned to think that way. The trick is to break free from it and actualy read a book about it.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Is it Deano is it really

yes...

Maybe thats what they want you to think.

Originally posted by BackFire
Not in the way it's portrayed.

There is probably, almost definately a station called "Area 51", this much is obvious. What I'm disputing is the claims that this station has ET's and alien equipment, which I don't believe.



Only if you're ignorant to the contrary proof and evidence that debunks this conspiracy theory.



Which is who? This is like a conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory, how interesting



Nah, just planes. What do vidoes at different angles have to do with anything? They all show the same thing, a building falling down.



It's hard to believe because there is no valid evidence for it that can't be debunked, not because I think our government is all gumdrops and rainbows. Too make such a massive claim would take much evidence and proof, which isn't there.

Area 51 is one of the operational epicenteres of the true power behind the globel conspiracy - the alien reptilian races and there's been hundreds of ex-workers there who have confirmed this. How many more will it take to convince people

And the evidence contary to the moon-landings being a fake is weak... just like it is for 9/11 and all other conspiracies surrounding major events.

All the videos of the twin towers falling show a series of huge bangs and huge ammounts of flashes and smoke bursting outward. That is exactly how a controlled demolition implosion looks like.

Wake up.

notice how those who have gone way off the deepend and live in a scifi delusion are the ones telling you to 'wake up'

i guess the logic is: if nobody believes it then it must be true, because thats how 'the matrix' went.

Aliens, Lizards funny as you like

Originally posted by PVS
notice how those who have gone way off the deepend and live in a scifi delusion are the ones telling you to 'wake up'

i guess the logic is: if nobody believes it then it must be true, because thats how 'the matrix' went.

Also notice how it is they who always seem to be dying in plane crashes or road accidents or odd suicides

Remember how all 12 or so of NASA's astronaughts who were involved in the moon landinggs and knew the truth that the whole thing was a fake conviently died within a couple of years of one another. Just a coincidence nothing to worry about.

How about all the congressmen and Senators who know something the Illuminati dont want out always seem to pick the wrong airplane for their journey, doh!

You mean SUPPOSED ex workers. These people usually come out of the woodwork and only talk to those who readily believe conspiracy theories, on conspiracy radio shows and such. It's very possible, actually, very likely, that these are either A) Simple lies - These people had nothing to do with Area 51 and are just screwing around with the conspiracy theoriests. B) DID used to work at Area 51 and are, again, screwing around with conspiracy theorists telling them what they want to hear for a good laugh. If all your crap was true, don't you think the benevolent alien race controlling everything would kill ex workers before they were able to talk?



Not as weak as the evidence FOR a fake moon landing, I'm afraid. Seeing as it can all be debunked.



Apparantly, that's also what a building that was just smashed into by a big freaking airplane looks when it's falling too, seeing as there were fires caused by the airplane crash, not to mention gasoline in the airplane, explosions should be expected.

Uhh Is Neil Armstrong dead

backfire you need to actualy study the evidence instead of just saying you have becuase then you would of seen how ludacrously stronger the evidence is for a fake moon landing than the evidence of it not being faked.

Yeah I'm sure thse people who claim to be ex-workers in Area 51 and other secret bases are on a mission to mis-lead conspiracy theorists especially the ones with drug packs in their chests that require a counter-drug injection every 48 hours to stop the pack from releasing the poisen and killing the host.

Originally posted by PVS
i guess the logic is: if nobody believes it then it must be true, because thats how 'the matrix' went.

Using the word "logic" in this thread is almost a joke.

There are conspiracy theories in this world (i.e. the JFK assassination and a view others) that are worth studying. With a world full of corrupt and power hungry leaders this is bound to happen. But get a grip folks.

However, if you live in a world that is so sad and scary, so mixed up that you have to create convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for your world to make sense or to give yourself something to believe in...then I pity you.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Aliens, Lizards funny as you like

Now, tell me, how are lizards more unfathomable than christianty, islam, hinduism or most other religions? Also, unlike them, david Icke asks of nothing in return from his followers, whereas the church, for instance, feeds on it's followers.

someone believes in lizards...they are crazy..someone believes in god...thats ok..

same sorta thing

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Using the word "logic" in this thread is almost a joke.

There are conspiracy theories in this world (i.e. the JFK assassination and a view others) that are worth studying. With a world full of corrupt and power hungry leaders this is bound to happen. But get a grip folks.

However, if you live in a world that is so sad and scary, so mixed up that you have to create convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for your world to make sense or to give yourself something to believe in...then I pity you.

save your pity for the weak !!

Again, I have, it's not strong.



haha, yeah, that couldn't be a lie.

Sorry Deano but I've been in this situation hundreds of times and it goes nowhere so why bother?

They need to read a good starter book like Rule By Secrecy or an Icke book to even comprehend the global conspiracy nevermind start to beleive it as the evidence and proof start coming to them.

You know why it gets no where? Because there is no evidence or proof of your beliefs. As such, if there's no evidence of your theories it's damn near impossible to convince someone of it unless they're already willing to accept a silly theory, no matter the lack of reasoning behind it.

-Insane

Originally posted by Deano
save your pity for the weak !!

that's of whom I was speaking.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
that's of whom I was speaking.

whos that them?

Originally posted by Novusordo
Sorry Deano but I've been in this situation hundreds of times and it goes nowhere so why bother?

They need to read a good starter book like Rule By Secrecy or an Icke book to even comprehend the global conspiracy nevermind start to beleive it as the evidence and proof start coming to them.

yes, we are all but sleepwalkers...dirt beneath your feet as you are the one who is truly awake. we simpletons require proof and valid sources of information, because we are but simple folk. you however, in your infinite wisdom, know the difference between fact and fiction simply because you 'just have a feeling about it', which sets yourself far above the evolutionary ladder, far far above the rest of humanity. and that is why you were born, to wake the world up and lead them from darkness. you are...THE ONE.

Originally posted by Deano
whos that them?

For those with difficulties in comprehension:

"However, if you live in a world that is so sad and scary, so mixed up that you have to create convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for your world to make sense or to give yourself something to believe in...then I pity you."

That would be anyone who creates convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for their world to make sense or to give themself something to believe in. Or, anyone who believes in dragon people that control the world for a start.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
For those with difficulties in comprehension:

"However, if you live in a world that is so sad and scary, so mixed up that you have to create convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for your world to make sense or to give yourself something to believe in...then I pity you."

That would be anyone who creates convoluted stories or believe the convoluted stories of others in order for their world to make sense or to give themself something to believe in. Or, anyone who believes in dragon people that control the world for a start.

dont pity me please

dragon people..no more crazy than religion

Originally posted by Deano


dragon people..no more crazy than religion

*POINT*

i will certainly give you that

Originally posted by Deano
dont pity me please

Sometimes you make it hard not to.

Originally posted by PVS
*POINT*

i will certainly give you that

God?

Originally posted by PVS
*POINT*

i will certainly give you that

and yet millions of people are religious
and no one on here ever has a pop at them

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Sometimes you make it hard not to.

well i sure aint gonna make it easy

Yeah right. Religious people get their beliefs questions all the time.

Originally posted by Deano
well i sure aint gonna make it easy

You realized that you just burned yourself there, don't you?

Originally posted by Deano
and yet millions of people are religious
and no one on here ever has a pop at them

thats bullshit and you know it
plenty here have a dig at religion.
i have my beliefs, but i also have my doubts.
i think anyone who just accepts what they are told without question is weak minded.

i think anyone who accepts everything they are told by conspiracy theorists are equally weak minded. they tend to think they are open minded simply because they dont follow the norm. but thats irrelivent.

Originally posted by PVS
thats bullshit and you know it
plenty here have a dig at religion.
i have my beliefs, but i also have my doubts.
i think anyone who just accepts what they are told without question is weak minded.

i think anyone who accepts everything they are told by conspiracy theorists are equally weak minded. they tend to think they are open minded simply because they dont follow the norm. but thats irrelivent.

i dont accept everything
but i dont dismiss everything

Through modern science and quantum physics the mind only sees what it thinks is possible. I have learned some of these things from scientists' explanations in the quantum physics movie still in theatres called "What the Bleep Do We Know?" The mind processes 400 billion pieces of information per second but is only aware of 2 thousand of them. Other studies have shown that what enters the eye, is reduced by up to and sometimes more than 50% before it enters the brain. Things are taken out, some put in, and this editing is based on your believe system. So scientifically when one of these entities that has occupied a body apparently shapeshifts. They are literally changing the projection of what someone sees from the disguise of a human to their true form. Whatever that may be. The "reptilians" have the ability to control what they are projecting into the minds of those around them. He goes into more detail in the Biggest Secret and of course his other books. Just as when you watch TV you are watching the same tv but the channel changes. The Projection into your brain changes. So it's not even physical thing, it's a frequency. Icke is simply a transmitter of information. People can do what they want with it. To ridicule him is almost like killing the messenger. He goes where the evidence leads him and he is free from worry of ridicule therefore he can go as deep as he likes

paragraphs are your friend

Originally posted by whirlysplat
-Insane

do i look insane to you?! HUH?! hahahahhah HHHHHHHHAAAAA

Originally posted by PVS
paragraphs are your friend

not mine

Okay seriously Deano...

Conspiracy theory's are all nice and well some of them might be true or have a ring of the truth in them. Some can hardly be anything but true. But the lizards? Come on seriously Lizards rulling the world? I could accept the possiblity of aliens once landing on earth. But controlling it all?

Tell me something what could possibly be the us of it? If they were so advanced they could do with us whatever they want.

If they want to control the world they could have used militairy forces

If they wanted to study us they should have left us alone

If they wanted to help us they should have stopped war already

Whats the damn reason for them doing what they are doing? I mean if there is so much evidence somebody should be able to answer that question

theres so much we dont understand

we are pawns in a bigger game

No we are not

Originally posted by whirlysplat
No we are not

please prove it..please

Accually the burden of Proof is on you Deano,
Its impossible to prove a "not"...
Must I bring back the Reindeer?

Originally posted by Deano
theres so much we dont understand

we are pawns in a bigger game

So I am a pawn. A heavily underestimated piece that has been known to take more powerful pieces, even kings, and is rewarded by being allowed to become anything it wishes if it completes its journey.

I can live with that.

can you?

I believe that I just said I could, that's the second time I've had to repeat myself for you. Are you retarded Deano? If so that would make a lot of sense. Also if I knew that were true I could try to make my posts even easier to read.

If you would know chess you would know that pawns actually are very important figures.........in the end game they can be the most important ones even.

A bishop, a knight, a rook or a queen will never be anything more than what they are, while a pawn may become anything that it wants.

Exactly

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I believe that I just said I could, that's the second time I've had to repeat myself for you. Are you retarded Deano? If so that would make a lot of sense. Also if I knew that were true I could try to make my posts even easier to read.

too answer your question...no im not retarded
judging by your senseless post, i must ask you..are you retarded?
please do make your posts easier to read....some of the kids in here might not be able to keep up with the big words you use

Originally posted by KharmaDog
A bishop, a knight, a rook or a queen will never be anything more than what they are, while a pawn may become anything that it wants.

but many pawns choose not to live up to there potential

i'd rather be a pawn than a tool

Originally posted by Deano
too answer your question...no im not retarded
judging by your senseless post, i must ask you..are you retarded?


ooooooo. Good comeback. I see that your frequenting of conspiracy sites and delusional ideas has not left you without your rapier wit in tact.

Originally posted by Deano
please do make your posts easier to read....some of the kids in here might not be able to keep up with the big words you use


If you have a problem with the big words try dictionary.com.
I suggest you first look up the words "delusional" and "paranoid".

Originally posted by Deano
but many pawns choose not to live up to there potential


And that is the choice of the pawn. Maybe people do not fill their potential because they are so afraid of the real word that they hide in a fabricated one. See what I am getting at?

Originally posted by PVS
i'd rather be a pawn than a tool

tool is a pretty decent band though

lol ok i will look up those words for you

paranoid - Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others: a paranoid suspicion that the phone might be bugged.

delusional - A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.
Psychiatry. A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution.

i do see what your gettin at...now maybe you could look up the words 'bigheaded'

Originally posted by Deano
i do see what your gettin at...now maybe you could look up the words 'bigheaded'

Bigheaded is only one word, and it's pretty self-explanatory.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Bigheaded is only one word, and it's pretty self-explanatory.

not to people with a big head

deano. you need to work on those comebacks.

Originally posted by PVS
deano. you need to work on those comebacks.

yeah, he needs to get back to telling how the lizard people are going to put chips in our head, it's far more entertaining than his comebacks.

Deano I like you.....and we all know harma does have a Big Head .....BUT your comebacks Suxxor......they actually Suxxor extremely....

i hope its just a side effect of being young and naive and that
he will outgrow it...or else its not very funny at all...quite disturbing in fact.

i dont pride myself on my comebacks
obviously you two seem to take great care in trying to be witty
you probably sit there for 10 minute thinking about what to write
and who said anythin about lizards putting chips in peoples heads?
i dont believe i did

i admit ..your good, your very good..but your not the best..your looking at the best

Originally posted by PVS
i hope its just a side effect of being young and naive and that
he will outgrow it...or else its not very funny at all...quite disturbing in fact.

glad i disturb you

Originally posted by Bardock42
Deano I like you.....and we all know harma does have a Big Head .....BUT your comebacks Suxxor......they actually Suxxor extremely....

i disagree
you dont like me..you love me

seriously deano, i hope one day you can look back on this and laugh.
a very desireable alternative to crawling around in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket screaming "THE LIZARD MEN ARE TAKING OVER!!!!" and "GET THIS MICROCHIP OUT OF ME!!!!!!!!"

Originally posted by PVS
seriously deano, i hope one day you can look back on this and laugh.
a very desireable alternative to crawling around in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket screaming "THE LIZARD MEN ARE TAKING OVER!!!!" and "GET THIS MICROCHIP OUT OF ME!!!!!!!!"

You see....that was funny.


Look out PVS, they might turn you into a Lizard man too.

velho

Originally posted by PVS
seriously deano, i hope one day you can look back on this and laugh.
a very desireable alternative to crawling around in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket screaming "THE LIZARD MEN ARE TAKING OVER!!!!" and "GET THIS MICROCHIP OUT OF ME!!!!!!!!"

when you have a chip in your hand...maybe one day you'll look back and say
'wow why was i so ignorant, and why did i keep bringing up lizards when deano had never even mentioned them'

microchipping is a possibility

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You see....that was funny.


Look out PVS, they might turn you into a Lizard man too.

velho

well your idea of funny must be completly different than mine ..man your obsessed with lizards

I like the Lizzard in Spider-Man