Kaballah?

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DigiMark007
ABC just did a news story on the Kaballah religion, apparently an obscure, mystical, and complex sect of Judaism. I've never heard of it, but apparently it's a new rage among celebrities and has become a bit more mainstream. They study a book called the Zohar.

Anyone know anything about this religion?? What little they told about it on the news broadcast seemed patently ridiculous to me, but somehow made me curious to find out what the hell it actually is.

-DM

debbiejo
Kaballah is very interesting...I bought a book called "Becomming Like God.". There is much on the net about it. From what I gather it using you "Intention" to kinda create your own reality. I think the point is that God is the creator, and we are one with It/Him and so we can also create...It's understanding the truth of who we really are, I think.It has to do with the "Tree Of Life", which I did some searches on and the meanings. I think you meditate of the different aspects of it. It's considered a "Living Tree", That it aids in your visitations and contact with God/Spirit..

Something like that.

DigiMark007
hmmm...ok. I did a few searches, but haven't been able to find much more than sites that say "Kabbalah will bring you closer to your purpose" and that jazz...they don't ever say much about what it actually is about. I suppose me looking for a cliff notes version is a bit unfair (for any religion) but I don't have the time to research everything that peaks my curiosity.

I'm vaguely familiar with the Tree of Life concept, and the few descriptions of it I've seen of Kabbalah make it seem more like some Eastern philosophies than Judaism (they have a 'ladder' of ascending desires that all souls presumably go through...similar to some Hindu beliefs) and seemed to say that you can acheive everything in this life rather than the next...which is much closer to the Eastern idea of Enlightenment than anything involving Judaism or Christianity.

-DM

P.S. Also, on a whim, I did some brief research on Scientology. Kabbalah seems downright normal compared to that...started by a science fiction writer turned philosopher, the "upper levels" of Scientology have them believing something about an intergalactic invader corrupting souls. It sounds more like soemthing that belongs over in the comic book forum than here on this forum. I'm sure it does a lot of good for people (like many religions, which may be wrong, but are essentially harmless and sometimes beneficial to the greater good) but it seems ridiculous to me.

debbiejo
I think kaballa might be related to the gnostics, though I can't remember..I read the book over a year ago...Wish my brain was a sponge...things just keep dripping out.

finti
ask Madonna or Britney Spears about it

big gay kirk
Also try searching for Qabalah, or other variant spellings.... Dion Fortune's "Mystical Qabalah" is a good start..... and as for britney and madonna... what I've heard them talk about seems to have little to do with the jewish mysticism.... also, try watching Neon Genesis Evangelion... which relies heavily on Qabalistic mysteries for its plot.....

Bicnarok
All cults, follow jesus and you on the right path.

debbiejo
Originally posted by Bicnarok
All cults, follow jesus and you on the right path.

Pagan cult = Catholic cult = Protestant cult.....Same rituals...different names.

markie
Originally posted by debbiejo
Kaballah is very interesting...I bought a book called "Becomming Like God.". There is much on the net about it. From what I gather it using you "Intention" to kinda create your own reality. I think the point is that God is the creator, and we are one with It/Him and so we can also create...It's understanding the truth of who we really are, I think.It has to do with the "Tree Of Life", which I did some searches on and the meanings. I think you meditate of the different aspects of it. It's considered a "Living Tree", That it aids in your visitations and contact with God/Spirit..

Something like that. What do they meditate on?

debbiejo
Originally posted by markie
What do they meditate on?

Well the Tree of Life is made up of 10 circles and each circle stands for many things....Like Malkuth-The kingdom...Each circle has an image for It's Magical Image, Name of Power, Archangel, Angel, Planetary Attribution, Virtue, Vice, Titles, Spiritual Experience, Deity color, Archangel Color, Angel Color, Planetary Color, symbols, Deities...

Each circle has the same categories, but with different Angels, planets, colors, Virtues...etc..

It's a deeper more involved on many levels meditation..Each circle is connected to or related to the next, I think.....

And don't ask me why they do this, cause I don't know. It is supposed to be powerful, enlightening, and spiritual.....

markie
Here's something I had un my favs about it. I got it from a jew on the other message board so it might be worth looking at.
http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm

debbiejo
One you learn the different aspects of Qaballa you can look at the advancement of people, wonder which experiences they've had, and where they would e on the tree. For instance the Tifareth, the solar symbol. It means life, light and healing and you find healing gods, sun deities like Ra, Apollo, Rama, Amaterasu, and also Krishna, Buddah, Mithra and Jesus...It's not how and what you worship, but the inner act of worship it's self.

Imperial_Samura
Sounds like it has aspects of Gnosticism, Mithrism and Manichaeism.

debbiejo
While meditating on The Tree of Life, or Qabalah (also known as Kabbalah) which is an ancient mystical system, I was visited by a great being of golden light, Archangel Michael. This great presence of unconditional love, showed me a way to use The Tree of Life as a healing tool. Since then, I have found its gifts to be awesome and effective and I have taught it to many who now use it for their own healing and in their healing practice.

The Qabalah consists of ten spheres, each relating to an aspect of creation. It is believed that the The Tree is the blue print, or basic structure on which all of creation is built. From a personal perspective, the spheres correspond to specific aspects of our self. Each sphere has a Hebrew name and an Archangel which governs the functions of creation within that sphere. Also found within each sphere are an order of angels and a corresponding planet, number and other symbols which help us to understand and access it’s energies.

Using The Healing Qabalah in a treatment the healer observes the quality of energy, shape and intuitive images which we receive from a client relative to the spheres on their Tree of Life, and listening to the messages of their guides, the healer can discern what is out of balance or in need of healing in that person. Also, when presented with a physical symptom, we can learn much about what caused it by observing which spheres are involved.

A brief description of the 10 spheres on The Tree of Life:

(These interpretations are based on 18 years of working experience guided by The Archangels. Although generally consistent with traditional Qabalistic study, they may also be somewhat different.)


1.) Kether – above the crown of the head. This sphere represents our oneness with The All That Is, by whatever name you call that. Archangel Metatron governs this sphere.

2.) Chokmah – to the right of the head. This sphere represents our eternally free and unconditionally loving spirit and masculine force (which we all have). Also relates to our relationship with our fathers and other male authority figures. Archangel Ratziel.

3.) Binah – to the left of the head. Represents the Mother God or the cosmic womb by which our eternal spirit is focused into the restrictions of a particular incarnation. Also relates to our relationship with our mothers and female authority figures. Archangel Tzaphkiel.

4.) Chesed – right shoulder. Represents those structures which support us in our incarnation including home, family, community, religions, governments, relationships, money, pleasure etc. Archangel Tzadkiel.

5.) Geburah – left shoulder. Represents the force of change, independent action, freedom of choice. When repressed can build up and become anger. Archangel Khamael.

6.) Tipheret – heart and solar plexus. Represents our inner wisdom, balance and harmony. The Inner Wisdom, mastery. Archangel Michael.

7.) Netzach – right hip/groin. Represents the force of nature within us. Our instincts, passions, creativity and imagination. Archangel Haniel.

8.) Hod – left hip/groin. Represents the focused energy of mind and clear intention. Archangel Raphael.

9.) Yesod – reproductive area. Represents the patterns of belief - personal and hereditary which define our experience in this life. These beliefs are deeply unconscious, often related to our genetic make-up, social programming, past experiences or soul contracts. Archangel Gabriel.

10.) Malkuth – the root chakra, and below the feet. Represents the earth, or manifest form. Here the world gives us what we assume about life, consciously or unconsciously. When we heal and clear those old structures found in Yesod, our experience changes. Archangel Sandalphon.


A Healer Practitioner can read and balance a client’s Tree of Life, discussing with them what they find and working to understand why imbalances exist for that person. They Archangels work to bring healing and balance while the Healer Practitioner works consciously with the client to bring ongoing change into their life. They may often offer spiritual exercises as homework to help retrain the person’s energy systems.

The Healing Qabalah is a favorite tool of Healer Practitioners who are also psychotherapists, offering them a way to recognize the deeper issues beneath a person’s emotional and mental symptoms. Where a client has been floundering, not really being able to move forward with their psychological recovery and healing, the Healing Qabalah can open a door for healing the cause of the problem so that true change becomes possible.

The Healing Qabalah is one tool in The Healer Practitioners Toolkit. Used with the other tools, it becomes like a spiritual compass showing the direction in which healing can progress.

Atlantis001
Oh yeah I know something about the Kabbalah too, I think its based in two books, the Sepher Yetizira(don´t know if I spell it right) and the Zohar, but I didn´t know the Tree of Like is used for something like in a ritual or something else. I know that tarot is based on it, looks like each card´s meaning is related to the link between two sephiroth, or spheres. There are more interesting thing in the Kabbalah, like the four worlds:

Olam HaAtziluth - from where everything emanates, here they say there are only achetypes representing the ten sephiroth.
Olam HaBriah - the world of creation; in here everything exists in potential, it has some relation to new ideas or the mind I think.
Olam HaYetzira - the world of formation; here its where ideas start to take form.
Olam HaAssiah - the world of action ; the physical world, its where formed things happen, the world where we live in.

There are the five levels of the soul too:

Nefesh - I think it is the physical body, or ta least its very closely related to it.
Ruach - Its related to our emotions, they say we reach it in dreams or in comtemplative states.
Neshama - its related to the mind I think, and represents our true individual identity.
Chaia - this levels trancends the individuality, or ego, and its related to our acquired experience in our lives or something like that.
Iechida - thats a good question, why don´t you tell me what it represents, I only know that it must trancend our individuality like Chaia does.

Nefesh, Ruach, and Neshama are related to our individuality, or personality that we have on this "incarnation", when we die they just disappear. But Chaia, and Iechida are permanent and remain even when we die. At least is that what Kabbalists believe, and what I like to believe too. There are more interesting things in the Kabbalah that´s not all.

It was a surprise to me that celebrities liked it too, didn´t know they are capable to understand it.

cking
quite the information.

debbiejo
Originally posted by Atlantis001


I agree with you...maybe that's why many changed over to Scientology...though the "Tree of Life" is called a living tree and used in meditation for visions and guidance in your life...there are more aspects to the spheres then I've listed...It's quite in depth.....also healers use it for feeling the different spheres/energy fields and work with patients on resolving their problems whether repressed emotional/past life/or more spiritual....I've been studying it just as of late.

OH...BTW...in the other post above...It wasn't me who was meditation and saw the Arch Angle Michael....

cking
scientology is part of that new age religion.

Atlantis001
Interesting, that they have their uses for it ! But like the Kabbalah more for its knowledge than for practicing it.

cking
the religion is more science than what a religion should be called.

debbiejo
Kaballah is a way of meditation that helps one to grow and become more at peace with yourself, people, and the world from what I've gathered...It's an inner change.

markie
Did anybody go to my link?Jewish kabalah is not this new age kabalah.
http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
Kabbalah and Jewish Mysticism
Level: Advanced


Mysticism in Judaism
When non-Jews ask about Judaism, they commonly ask questions like: Do you believe in heaven and hell? In angels or the devil? What happens to the soul after death? What is the nature of G-d and the universe? The answers to questions like these define most religions; in fact, I have heard some people say that the purpose of religion is to answer these kinds of questions. Yet in Judaism, most of these cosmological issues are wide open to personal opinion. The areas of Jewish thought that most extensively discuss these issues, Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism, were traditionally not even taught to people until the age of 40, when they had completed their education in Torah and Talmud.

Mysticism and mystical experiences have been a part of Judaism since the earliest days. The Torah contains many stories of mystical experiences, from visitations by angels to prophetic dreams and visions. The Talmud considers the existence of the soul and when it becomes attached to the body. Jewish tradition tells that the souls of all Jews were in existence at the time of the Giving of the Torah and were present at the time and agreed to the Covenant. There are many stories of places similar to Christian heaven and purgatory, of wandering souls and reincarnation. The Talmud contains vague hints of a mystical school of thought that was taught only to the most advanced students and was not committed to writing. There are several references in ancient sources to ma'aseh bereishit (the work of creation) and ma'aseh merkavah (the work of the chariot ), the two primary subjects of mystical thought at the time.

In the middle ages, many of these mystical teachings were committed to writing in books like the Zohar. Many of these writings were asserted to be secret ancient writings or compilations of secret ancient writings.

Like most subjects of Jewish belief, the area of mysticism is wide open to personal interpretation. Some traditional Jews take mysticism very seriously. Mysticism is an integral part of Chasidic Judaism, for example, and passages from kabbalistic sources are routinely included in traditional prayer books. Other traditional Jews take mysticism with a grain of salt. One prominent Orthodox Jew, when introducing a speaker on the subject of Jewish mysticism, said basically, "it's nonsense, but it's Jewish nonsense, and the study of anything Jewish, even nonsense, is worthwhile."

The mystical school of thought came to be known as Kabbalah, from the Hebrew root Qof-Bet-Lamed, meaning "to receive, to accept." The word is usually translated as "tradition." In Hebrew, the word does not have any of the dark, sinister, evil connotations that it has developed in English. For example, the English word "cabal" (a secret group of conspirators) is derived from the Hebrew word Kabbalah, but neither the Hebrew word nor the mystical doctrines have any evil implications to Jews.

Kabbalah: The Misunderstood Doctrine
Kabbalah is one of the most grossly misunderstood parts of Judaism. I have received several messages from non-Jews describing Kabbalah as "the dark side of Judaism," describing it as evil or black magic. On the other end of the spectrum, I receive many messages wanting to learn more about the trendy doctrine popularized by various Jewish and non-Jewish celebrities.

These misunderstandings stem largely from the fact that the teachings of Kabbalah have been so badly distorted by mystics and occultists. Kabbalah was popular among Christian intellectuals during the Renaissance and Enlightenment periods, who reinterpreted its doctrines to fit into their Christian dogma. In more recent times, many have wrenched kabbalistic symbolism out of context for use in tarot card readings and other forms of divination and magic that were never a part of the original Jewish teachings. Today, many well-known celebrities have popularized a new age pop-psychology distortion of kabbalah (I have heard it derisively referred to as "crap-balah"wink that has more in common with the writings of Deepak Chopra than with any authentic Jewish source.

I do not mean to suggest that magic is not a part of Kabbalah. There are certainly many traditional Jewish stories that involve the use of hidden knowledge to affect the world in ways that could be described as magic. The Talmud and other sources ascribe supernatural activities to many great rabbis. Some rabbis pronounced a name of G-d and ascended into heaven to consult with the G-d and the angels on issues of great public concern. One scholar is said to have created an artificial man by reciting various names of G-d. Much later stories tell of a rabbi who created a man out of clay (a golem) and brought it to life by putting in its mouth a piece of paper with a name of G-d on it. However, this area of Kabbalah (if indeed it is more than mere legend) is not something that is practiced by the average Jew, or even the average rabbi. There are a number of stories that discourage the pursuit of such knowledge and power as dangerous and irresponsible. If you see any books on the subject of "practical kabbalah," you can safely dismiss them as not authentic Jewish tradition because, as these stories demonstrate, this kind of knowledge was traditionally thought to be far too dangerous to be distributed blindly to the masses.

It is important to note that all of these magical effects were achieved through the power of G-d, generally by calling upon the name of G-d. These practices are no more "evil" than the miracles of the prophets, or the miracles that Christians ascribe to Jesus. In fact, according to some of my mystically-inclined friends, Jesus performed his miracles using kabbalistic techniques learned from the Essenes, a Jewish sect of that time that was involved in mysticism.

Ein Sof and the Ten Sefirot
To give you an idea of the nature of Kabbalah, I will briefly discuss one of the better known, fundamental concepts of kabbalistic thought: the concept of G-d as Ein Sof, the Ten Sefirot, and the kabbalistic tree of life. This explanation is, at best, a gross oversimplification. I do not pretend to fully understand these ideas.

According to Kabbalah, the true essence of G-d is so transcendent that it cannot be described, except with reference to what it is not. This true essence of G-d is known as Ein Sof, which literally means "without end," which encompasses the idea of His lack of boundaries in both time and space. In this truest form, the Ein Sof is so transcendent that It cannot have any direct interaction with the universe. The Ein Sof interacts with the universe through ten emanations from this essence, known as the Ten Sefirot.

These Sefirot correspond to qualities of G-d. They consist of, in descending order, Keter (the crown), Chokhmah (wisdom), Binah (intuition, understanding), Chesed (mercy) or Gedulah (greatness), Gevurah (strength), Tiferet (glory), Netzach (victory), Hod (majesty), Yesod (foundation) and Malkut (sovereignty). The middle five qualities are mentioned explicitly and in order at I Chronicles 29:11: Yours, O L-rd, is the greatness (gedulah), the strength (gevurah), the glory (tiferet), the power (netzach), and the splendor (hod). I have seen this passage translated in widely varying ways, but the Hebrew corresponds to the names of the Sefirot in order.

The Ten Sefirot include both masculine and feminine qualities. Kabbalah pays a great deal of attention to the feminine aspects of G-d.

The Sefirot are commonly represented as in the diagram at left. This diagram is commonly known as the Tree of the Sefirot or the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. There is great significance to the position of these various attributes and their interconnectedness.

The Sefirot are not separate deities, as some might think by taking this too literally. They are intimately a part of G-d, and yet they are in contact with the universe in a way that the Ein Sof is not. The Sefirot connect with everything in the universe, including humanity. The good and evil that we do resonates through the Sefirot and affects the entire universe, up to and including G-d Himself.

Suggested Reading
Readings in this area should be undertaken with extreme caution. There is entirely too much literature out there under the name "Kabbalah" that has little or nothing to do with the true Jewish teachings on this subject. Any book on the subject of practical Kabbalah should be disregarded immediately; no legitimate source would ever make such teachings available to a faceless mass audience. Books written by Christians should be viewed with extreme skepticism, because many Christian sources have reinterpreted Kabbalah to fit into Christian dogma.

There is a nice online introductory Kabbalah course available from Aish Ha-Torah at Kabbala 101.

For an academic and scholarly information about Jewish mysticism and Kabbalah, check out the works of Professor Gershom Scholem. He was a prolific writer on the subject, and his writings are widely available and well-respected by both Jews and non-Jews. Dozens of his books are available at amazon.com. Click here to see a list.

For a more personal and experiential approach to Jewish mysticism and Kabbalah, see the works of Aryeh Kaplan. I am informed that his books are reliably authoritative and uncompromisingly Orthodox. I have found his materials on meditation and prayer, especially Jewish Meditation, to be particularly useful in my own devotional practices. Click here to see a list of his books available at amazon.com

Of course, if you are serious about Kabbalah, you must get yourself a teacher that you can work with one-on-one, either online or in person.

debbiejo
Yes, and today there are many different teachings on Kaballah...

markie
Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes, and today there are many different teachings on Kaballah... I was going to put this in my last post but the site was offline. We were talking about christian paganism, whatever that is on another message board. We have icons by our names and somebody who thinks he's an elf from another planet wants to have a christian pagan icon. Anyway I said Quote:
Originally Posted by: urnotme Kind of sounds like kabala.

Abd a jewish lady responded

I don't think you know enough about Kabbalah to say that a Jewish Pagan is following it. Actually, the true Kabbalah is MUCH different then the one catching on in Hollywood which is a New Age practice. Kabbalah itself has been around forever and is not forbidden by Torah. It does not promote the plurality of G~d Himself (ie. a duality or trinity, etc), nor does it promote multiple gods. Pagan practices remain forbidden. The purpose of Kabbalah is to give us a DEEPER UNDERSTANDING of Torah. It is such an intense, tender yet powerful subject to study that, while Chassidic Jews incorporate it into their daily lives, it is not even studied indepth until a man has reached age 40. Jewish mysticism has been part of Judaism since Judaism first began. It does not contradict Torah or Jewish teaching/law.

Kabbalah in traditional Judaism has nothing to do with the dark side or heathen practices. It is integral to many Orthodox Jews (though not all). It is only this modern version, that isn't true Kabbalah at all, that is Paganish and New Agey. The Torah teaches us about G~d and His Law and plan for the World. The Kabbalah gives us a deep spiritual understanding of the Torah. It is not Pagan related at all, and to say so is actually offensive. I am not saying I am mad by your comment, btw, as you probably do not know much about it. That is why I am sharing this with you in depth.

I have looked into the Jewish Pagans. Clearly the Jewish Pagan religion is Wicca or another Pagan path of their choosing, and they keep a few "Jewish" aspects so as not to entirely give up on who they are. The beliefs and practices are indeed Pagan however and not associated at all with Kabbalah or true Kabbalistic teachings. Most follow ancient (or modern) Pagan paths that they find intriguing.

Shalom and G~d bless,
~Lily~
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